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We need a lot more of this.

The New York Taxi Workers Alliance has announced on Twitter that it is halting passenger pickups at JFK airport in protest of the dozens of people detained under President Trump’s Muslim immigration ban.

The Alliance announced that it would be halting pickups at JFK from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. to protest reports of at least a dozen people who have been detained in the airport due to the immigration ban executive order signed by President Trump yesterday. One green card holder was released from detainment earlier today.

Of course, I’m sure your local Uber driver isn’t participating….

In any case, the huge protests at JFK are absolutely necessary and vital. And we are getting rapidly to the point where massive civil disobedience and arrests are necessary.

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  • I have to take issue with one aspect of your post. We’re not “getting rapidly” to that point; we’re already there.

    That said, I agree overall.

    • I do not disagree, except to say that we aren’t really trained for it. But what are you going to do.

      • I don’t know, sadly. I suspect you have much better ideas than I do, and I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts.

      • gmack

        True, we are not trained for it. And most of us are not prepared for what it’s going to require (I’m certainly not; I’ve never put myself in such a situation). But, as you say, what are you going to do? Our education and training is going to have to come more quickly than we’d like.

        Apropos of the need for civil disobedience, this piece pretty much articulates where we are.

  • kped

    Mentioned a few times I’m Canadian. one of my very best friends is a Persian girl who I used to work with in Toronto. Last September, she took an internal promotion to work in Jacksonville, Florida (she has told me the people are nice…but it lives up to it’s reputation…). Anyway…she flew into Toronto Thursday for some dental work. She was supposed to fly back tomorrow…company lawyer told her it should be fine, she is a Canadian citizen after all! She uses a Canadian passport, no problem most likely. Then today happens. She’s in limbo now. The life she started in Florida, the guy she was dating (and discussing having a kid with this year…), all of that on hold. For who knows how long.

    And she’s one of the lucky ones! She can still work in Toronto, her family and friends (apart from her serious boyfriend) are all here. But it’s still terrible. I can’t even imagine how this must feel, and again, she’s a lucky one. What about all those people fleeing war zones? the children dying. It’s all so fucking horrible.

    • Davis X. Machina

      There are people — tens of millions of people — in this country, who like to watch things like this. It makes them happy, and gives them pleasure.

      • jim, some guy in iowa

        well… yeah, I live among a few thousand of those people myself… but so what, really?

        • Davis X. Machina

          You can’t count on appeals to their finer feelings, or better instincts. They aren’t there.

          • socraticsilence

            I mean I guess this is the breaking point because I just don’t care anymore. Hell appeals to logic didn’t work in 1864 or 1945 either Shermans march and the Atom bomb on the other hand…..

            You can’t get everyone on your side and either the alt right et al lose elections or we start finding out how strong the institutional bonds of our polity really are….

    • Warren Terra

      There are a lot of reports of citizens of our closest allies, even members of national parliaments, who were born in one of the seven proscribed countries and have been told they won’t be allowed into the US, even though they have Canadian or EU passports and left their countries of birth as infants.

      RE Jacksonville, this week’s Reveal podcast from the Center for Investigative Reporting has a lot to say about how terrible its citizenry are.

      • kped

        I’m just so angry right now…and I have special anger for some lefties who WANTED this. Wanted this because they think it will spur on some socialist uprising utopia. This is people’s fucking lives, not a game. And we are seeing it play out now.

        (of course, I have far more anger for the right and Trump voters. I just shake my head in disgust at many on “our” side).

  • LeeEsq

    Good. My issue is how successful this is going to be without the seats in elected bodies. Trump and company are revolutionaries. They don’t care about mass popular resistance. We are just a bunch of traitors to them. They aren’t going to retreat until the loose power and that means loose an election. Republicans are prepared to use any trick possible to avoid that fate.

    • Obviously electoral politics is part of it. But this is how you build toward those electoral politics.

      • LeeEsq

        Maybe. From my reading of the historical record it never seems to translate into electoral politics in the United States though. People really into protest politics, the ones that put a lot of energy into organizing them, seem to be some of the biggest purity ponies and really hate the Democratic Party just as much as they hate the Republican one.

        • This just flat out is not true. You are mistaking a few leftists who don’t understand how American politics work with the masses of people who come out to these events.

        • humanoid.panda

          FWIW, and this is anecdotal, but in the PHilly protests I attended, even purity ponies were in very political moood. Some of them even organized trainings for people to become precinct captains!

          • humanoid.panda

            BTW- the mood was very different than the post-election protests that were very heavy on anarchists/ Stein voters.

          • ZakMcKrackenAndTheAlienMindbenders

            Tangential: Every purity pony I know personally currently lives in Philly; all five of them also insist they grew up in Philly (though actually Mainline).

    • Hercules Mulligan

      There is every indication that the 2020 election, and possibly the 2018 one, is going to be, well, rigged. We should work to win them but it is also true that we should train and organize for the possibility that elections will not exist.

      • LeeEsq

        Certain features of the American political system combined with certain geographic factors mean that all American elections are rigged to an extent. That isn’t an excuse. Unless we have people in actual office on the local, state, and federal level than we can protest all we want. It will be to no avail.

        • humanoid.panda

          So, in the last week alone, popular pressure alone made the Minnesota GOP sign off to a law that rebates cost hikes on the exchanges without poison pills, and the Trumpistas had to restore outreach dollars for the exchanges they cut. Both decisions were products of popular pressure alone.

          • LeeEsq

            I could be wrong at times.

            • humanoid.panda

              And in the last couple of hours, 3 GOP senators (Sasse, Collins, Flake) denounced the ban. Which is not much if they don’t vote appropriately, but its a reminder that those guys are not all revolutionaries. The majority of GOP politicians are, well, politicians.

              • John Revolta

                Crap. I’m gonna have to email my asshole Senator and tell him he done good.

              • Warren Terra

                “Denounced” is rather too strong, especially Sasse’s statement.

            • Steve LaBonne

              You’re rarely right.

        • Hercules Mulligan

          Where did I say we should not attempt to win elections at every level? We should do that, but also be ready to fight back outside electoral politics.

          From this and your above comments, it seems you believe that “popular movements” are formed entirely of Jill Stein voters. This is both entirely incorrect and extremely offensive. And, as Erik says above, every step towards social progress in this country has been the result of popular movements.

          • humanoid.panda

            Sometimes I feel like I am the only person who remembers the Tea Parties. Those guys weren’t particularly popular,they wore goofy outfits, sprouted extremist rhetoric, couldn’t put one tenth of the people we put on the street on week one- and yet helped the GOP get an enormous landlside. If I were a Chinese Communist, my big slogan now would be “Learn from the Tea Party to Beat the Tea Party.”

            • John Revolta

              In Communist China, every party is a Tea Party!!

            • Yeah, but they had the Fox News megaphone and the Koch money to lay down the Astroturf

              • humanoid.panda

                Fair enough. But we had 4 million people in the streets a week ago.

            • Platypus Prime

              Start the Coffee Party. Beat the blue quislings in the primaries. Shift the national conversation to the left.

  • rm

    Your local Uber driver at JFK is likely Arab-American. Evil corporation; local drivers just trying to make a living in one of the few cities where Uber driving is not necessarily a money-losing hobby.

    I understand JFK is a major port of entry, and that New York is the center of the universe, but how many have been detained at other airports? I found this from earlier today — four green card holders detained for hours at ATL. It sounds like (of course) the officials at the airport are confused and scrambling to know how to follow a vague and unconstitutional order. I don’t see how a green card holder or a dual citizen could be detained legally without specific cause — I mean I understand how, but I’ve got to hope the lawsuits will have a lot of valid grounds.

    • I saw somewhere that either Dallas or Houston (I’m a Bostonian, I tend to lump all of non-Austin Texas into one undifferentiated mass) has the most detainees of any airport, 24 total, maybe. I think there are at least a few at Dulles, with Terry McAuliffe there trying to help out. There is a protest at Logan Airport here in Boston, but I haven’t heard that anyone is known to be detained there. And I’ve heard that there are at least some people detained at O’Hare.

  • nmgal

    My favorite sign that I saw (a photo of) from last weekend’s protests was one that said

    First they came for the Muslims…
    
but we said

    NOT THIS TIME, MOTHERFUCKER

    I had no idea how soon this sign would be exquisitely relevant. Goddamit.

    • Steve LaBonne

      Thank you, I found that photo and shared it to my FB page. It’s exactly the way I feel.

  • BlogWood

    When Their Shifts End, Uber Drivers Set Up Camp in Parking Lots Across the U.S. http://bloom.bg/2keYnjY

    • BiloSagdiyev

      I wasn’t sure if that headline meant, “They’re forming protest camps tonight”, or “grim article about working conditions.”

      It’s the latter, folks. And I strongly endorse this article or event.

      The highway is alive tonight
      Where it’s headed everybody knows
      I’m sitting down here in the campfire light
      With the ghost of old Tom Joad

  • humanoid.panda

    BTW: apparently someone tried to shut down the Airtrain to JFK and Cuomo ordered it to reopen. If we keep protesting, Democratic leaders will have no choice but to jump in front of the bandwagon.

  • nasser

    Thankfully, the ACLU and others have filed suit. They’re asking not only for an end to detentions of refugees/immigrants, but for an injunction to stop this EO and to certify the suit as a class action.

  • ProgressiveLiberal

    As i said before, the first dem who promises to have their doj investigate, prosecute, and jail trump gets my primary vote. Fuck this fucking shit and all these fucking racists.

  • ProgressiveLiberal

    Btw, where is the manual on protesting correctly, because right now “losing my shit in public” is probably what would occur. I am afraid of what i would do/say.

    • Rules for Radicals is a good place to start.

      • ProgressiveLiberal

        Thanks but ill be in jail before i finish that. Anyone got cliffs notes?

        • Wikipedia summarises the rules here. It’s not that long, though. It’s 200 pages and you can probably read it in about three hours.

          • richard mayhew

            Tldr: make the other guy look like an asshole

            • Dr. Ronnie James, DO

              Check – now what? ;)

            • BiloSagdiyev

              I think that task has been completed for us!

              And yes, Alinsky’s book is an easy read.

    • Nick never Nick

      There is no manual, but there are a few good rules of thumb to remember.

      1) you’re protesting as a citizen, representing civic values. Being there is the point; being a witness is the second point; being a moral reprimand is the third point; don’t do anything that puts you wrong with these aims.

      2) Your protest may not be successful — when you see it failing, don’t flip your shit. Your behaviour is a comment on your cause. In the most successful example of protesting and civil disobedience in American history, the protestors are remembered for their dignity and calm. Protests and movements take weeks, months, and years to succeed, and sometimes never do. The less successful, equally famous movement, the opponents of the Vietnam war, was tarred by its more frantic adherents.

      3) People are going to be deported — you can’t stop it, but it’s a good thing if they realize, later, that Americans tried to protect them.

      • DocAmazing

        4) The police are not your friends. Give them a wide berth. They will behave appallingly and get away with it. Stay out of their reach.
        5) If the protest is of any significant size, there will be spies and provocateurs. Beware people who suggest stupid things, and do not say anything you wouldn’t speak out loud in a police station.

  • humanoid.panda

    A judge just stayed the atrocity.

    • Thanks for the update. It’s good to see that, for now, there are still checks and balances. Enjoy it while it lasts.

    • nasser

      Thanks for the update. Do you have a link?

      • upstate_cyclist just a Twitter message about it from one of the ACLU’s lawyers above.

        • nasser

          ok I see it thanks

  • CrunchyFrog

    I’d like to see this poster modified to have three guys. The first guy, before the Nazi, should be a confederate soldier.

    Seems we’re always fighting Nazis – the same evil people regardless of what they call themselves in the current century.

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