Joe Rogan dispenses epidemiological wisdom to his moron army of glibertarian bros:
On Thursday’s episode of his Spotify podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan clarified controversial remarks he made, regarding Covid-19 vaccines, which Dr. Anthony Fauci took to task.
“There’s some legitimate science behind [these vaccines],” he told his guest, comedian Andrew Santino. “This is the thing about this whole thing, people being upset at me: I’m not an anti-vax person.”
Rogan reiterated comments he had made on the podcast, which served as context for his controversial remarks. From Rogan’s perspective, any quarrel Fauci has with him is one of semantics. “I said, ‘I believe [the vaccines are] safe,’ and I encouraged many people to take them,” he explained. “My parents were vaccinated. I just said, ‘I don’t think that if you’re a young, healthy person, that you need it.’
“Their argument was, you need it for other people,” he continued. “That makes more sense, but that’s a different argument. That’s a different conversation.”
The comments Fauci took issue with were the folowing: “If you’re like 21 years old, and you say to me, ‘Should I get vaccinated?’ I’ll go no. If you’re a healthy person, and you’re exercising all the time, and you’re young, and you’re eating well, I don’t think you need to worry about this.”
It was Wednesday on The Today Show that Fauci decided to respond, calling Rogan’s statement “incorrect.”
“The reason why is, you’re talking about yourself in a vacuum,” he said. “You’re worried about yourself getting infected and the likelihood that you’re not going to get any symptoms. But you can get infected and will get infected if you put yourself at risk.”
As Fauci noted, even people who don’t show symptoms of Covid-19 are at risk of “propagating the outbreak, and you may inadvertently and innocently infect someone who really could have a problem with a severe outcome.”
“So if you want to worry about yourself, and not society, then that’s OK,” he continued. “But if you say to yourself even if I get infected, I could do damage to somebody else…That’s the reason why you’ve got to be careful and get vaccinated.
With a majority of adult Americans now at least partially vaccinated against coronavirus, roughly a quarter of adults say they will not try to get the shot, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS. That vaccine-hesitant 26% is much more willing to return to regular activity, far less confident in the government health officials overseeing vaccine rollouts, and opposed to vaccine requirements for everyday activities.
Overall, the poll seems to point to a country on the road to normalcy, with about 7 in 10 having gotten a vaccine or planning to do so and two-thirds comfortable returning to their regular routines. But there are sharp divisions by vaccine willingness over the role vaccines might play in a return to pre-pandemic life.In the poll, 55% of adults say they have received at least one dose of a coronavirus vaccine, while 45% have not — which matches with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s statistics on vaccine distribution. Those who have not yet received a dose at this point are more likely to say that they will not try to get one than that they will seek it out. All told, 26% of adults say they will not try to get a coronavirus vaccine, about the same as those who said so in March, while 16% say they haven’t yet gotten one but will do so.
Republicans remain the group most likely to say that they will not try to get a vaccine. Almost half of Republicans, 44%, feel that way, compared with 28% of independents and 8% of Democrats. Within Republicans, resistance to vaccines is concentrated among the young. Among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents ages 50 and older, 66% have gotten a vaccine or are willing to get one, but among those younger than 50, 57% say they will not get a vaccine. There is also an education divide that cuts across party lines. Among those who have a four-year college degree, 18% say they will not seek out a vaccine, compared with 31% among those who do not have a college degree.
Perhaps surprisingly, the group that is unwilling to get a vaccine is the most comfortable with the idea of returning to their regular routine. Overall, 63% of all adults say they are comfortable returning to their routine today and another 4% say they already have. Among those who are not vaccinated and do not plan to get one, 87% say they’re comfortable or have already returned to their routines, compared with 63% among those who haven’t gotten vaccinated but plan to, and 58% among those who have received at least one dose of the vaccine.That suggests those unwilling to be vaccinated do not see inoculation as necessary for them to return to life as it was pre-pandemic. Further, those who are not yet vaccinated are also the least confident that the government officials managing the rollout of coronavirus vaccines are properly balancing speed and safety in deciding which vaccines should be available.
Republican propaganda has spent a couple of generations now pushing an ideology that is profoundly anti-social, anti-rational, and basically a kind of non-stop special effects smoke machine to hide the machinations of the plutocracy. And this is the result.