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White people feel emboldened to kill people of color in Trump’s America.

A Missouri man is accused of shooting and killing an Indian immigrant engineer he thought was Middle Eastern and wounding two others after shouting “get out of my country” and opening fire.

Adam Purinton was arrested after fleeing Austin’s Bar and Grill, a suburban Kansas City restaurant that was packed Wednesday night when he allegedly blasted off several rounds at 7:15 p.m.

Cops arrested the 51-year-old at an Applebee’s hours later in Clinton, Mo., some 80 miles away after they were able to negotiate with him over the phone early Thursday morning.

The fatal victim was identified by the Kansas City Star as Srinivas Kuchibhotla, an aviation engineer at technology company Garmin whose Facebook page says he is from Hyderabad, India.

Surprised ICE doesn’t sign this guy up.

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  • libarbarian

    Arrested at an Applebees?

    “I just shot some guys so I think I’ll grab some moderately priced American food”.

    • Sentient AI from the Future

      +salad bar

    • patrick II

      He thought he would meet David Brooks there and discuss why America doesn’t have old fashioned values anymore.

    • Roger Ailes

      “Clinton police say they received a 911 call after 12:30 a.m. A bartender at the local Applebee’s told officers there was a man in the restaurant who confided in her that he was on the run, and eventually told her that he was involved in the Olathe shootings.

      The restaurant manager tells FOX 4 that Applebee’s closed at 11 p.m., but the bartender spent about an hour after that continuing to talk with the suspect until he revealed his connection to the crime.”

      Actually, racist dickwad shot at some Grilled Chicken Wonton Tacos but eventually ran out of ammo.

      • sigaba

        South Park declares victory over universe.

    • Donalbain

      It should have been a very big Arby’s.

  • postmodulator

    Surprised ICE doesn’t sign this guy up.

    Day’s young.

  • Chetsky

    There were Hindu-Americans who voted for Trump. Wish I knew Hindi (or, heck, any Indian language), so I could translate “kapo”.

    • humanoid.panda

      Using Kapo is a slur is never, ever cool.

      The Hindus (or Jews) who voted for Trump did it because they hate Muslims. Kapos were desperate people trying to survive another day. Holocaust survivors have the moral mandate to use that term as slur. No one else does.

      • Nobdy

        How about the term “fucking idiots”?

        Can we keep calling them that?

        • erick

          No kidding when Bannon said there were too many Asian CEOs in Silicon Valley did they think he meant Cambodians?

          • Chetsky

            “He couldn’t mean US! I mean, Trump even sent me a gold-plated membership card!”

            Imbeciles.

          • Dennis Orphen

            If you need corrective lenses for your eyes and don’t have contact lenses, I suggest you get a few pairs ASAP.

        • tsam

          Can we keep calling them that?

          FIRE AT WILL

      • Chetsky

        That’s a fair cop. I stand corrected.

        My anger is not satisfied with “fucking idiots”, though perhaps that is accurate, since their actions are getting people killed, including their own kind.

        • Nobdy

          “Fucking idiot asshole bigots”?

        • humanoid.panda

          These fucking idiots are fucking idiots indeed, but let’s be honest for a second: this guy shot his victims because he won his country back. If Trump lost, he’d shoot them because he lost his country.

          • Abbey Bartlet

            It’s true that hate crimes probably would have increased after the election either way, but a) I suspect they would have died down by now, and b) I would have faith that something would be done about them.

            • rm

              I think more of them would have targeted women in that scenario. But, yes, (b) would be true instead of removing white terrorism from official reality.

          • efgoldman

            this guy shot his victims because he won his country back. If Trump lost, he’d shoot them because he lost his country.

            But there’s no reason to forbid concealed carry in places where alcohol is served.

    • Dennis Orphen

      Now that’s what I call ‘Caste-ing’ your ballots.

  • Abbey Bartlet

    ♫ Everyone who didn’t support Hillary Clinton should be taken out and shot ♫

    • Dennis Orphen

      I prefer they remain in their misery.

      • They should at the very least not be allowed to vote in future elections. (People who tried to vote for her and were unable can be exempted, as are people who weren’t eligible in the first place.)

        Note: I’m trying to decide whether I’m being facetious here.

  • humanoid.panda

    I’m looking forward to the Arnade photo-essay about how front row kids made the shooter do it.

    • Nobdy

      Erik makes NO attempt to empathize with or understand the shooter.

      Nicholas Kristoff would be VERY disappointed.

      • Dennis Orphen

        Guys like him usually just want to shoot somebody. The POC angle is just their excuse.

        Unfortunately, from here on it will probably be a good one, at least in the eyes of law enforcement, from the police to the judges.

        Puke.

        • Origami Isopod

          Guys like him usually just want to shoot somebody. The POC angle is just their excuse.

          I really think you’re downplaying the role of racism here. Someone like the perp in this story would absolutely not be as motivated to shoot a white guy.

    • Here are some random pictures of people and successful people like magical me should be more considerate of the feelings of the type of people who’d kill people for being the wrong color did I mention I used to be a Wall Street wiz??

      • Nobdy

        The most frustrating part of the “understand Trump voters!” Demands, for me, is that said Trumpies are NEVER EVER asked to understand the people they are prejudiced against.

        When Obama won were there a lot of articles urging angry conservatives to understand the people who voted for him? Of course not. Conservatives never have to do this work.

        If a Trump voter came to undrestand the people HE demonizes and repent for his vote I think everyone on this blog would happily listen to him and his feefees. But when you’re the bad guy you don’t have the moral right to demand that the good guy take the first step to understanding YOU.

        • Especially when such demands are actually Hey, see those people over there who have announced they want to stamp on your face, forever? Why don’t you try to see things from their point of view?

          But I guess this system of oppression won’t enforce itself!

          • Lit3Bolt

            “Every person of color needs to explain to me why I can’t call them a racial slur, and every woman needs to explain to me why I can’t grope her, or my freedom of speech is being oppressed and liberals are the real intolerant people here.”

            -CPAC Mission Statement 2017

            • Abbey Bartlet

              Did anyone else catch that the CPAC agenda refers to the Hon. Kellyanne Conway?

              • N__B

                Maybe that agenda was written by someone from Bawlmer, hon.

        • BiloSagdiyev

          Yes, I didn’t hear any call in 2008 for the Toby Keith fans to understand the plight of the urban, the educated, the coastal, the big city folk with hectic schedules and high mortgages or rents.

          • Dennis Orphen

            Yes, I didn’t hear any call in 2008 for the Toby Keith fans to understand the plight of the urban, the educated, the coastal, the big city folk with hectic schedules and high mortgages or rents Gram Parsons fans.

    • shah8

      The impressive thing about Arnade’s…idée fixe, is just how little he seems to perceive that in many of these places, the ruins of people’s social fabric and lives that he purports to care so much about has a direct relationship with the people (and their ancestor’s) virulent willingness to put white supremacy above public goods or even survival. He doesn’t…like, arrive to a college town out there in the hinterlands, see how people get on and what the politics are and how society flows, and compare that with whatever hellhole he’s caping the authenticity of. Or go to the town center of said hellhole, read a few histories of the town, or something…

      What frustrate me so much about Arnade and Steve Randy Waldman et al, is that black people have had this conversation. For as long as we’ve been here, we’ve pretty much hoped that hey “let’s all get together!”, have had those dreams crushed, and studied the hell out of why they were crushed. Tons of literature out there. But…can lead a horse to water…

      • humanoid.panda

        Well, whenever he is confronted with the African American angle, he just tells the story of all the African American Trump voters he met in his journeys.

  • CP

    If only the biased liberal courts had allowed Donald Trump to close the border, this dangerous terrorist would never have been a threat.

  • leftwingfox

    But Islamophobia can't be racist because Muslims aren't a race.

    • CP

      Don’t you just love that argument?

      By this logic: “It was not okay for the Ku Klux Klan to persecute blacks, which are a race. However, it was totally okay for the Ku Klux Klan to persecute Catholics and Jews, because those are religions. (Admittedly, that last one’s a bit more complicated, but fuck it, you can’t just ask us to not persecute!)”

      • leftwingfox

        It pisses me of because I keep seeing asshole atheists trying to pretend that bigots are driven by legitimate criticisms of Islam rather than a fear of brown people. Then some violent cracker goes and shoots a Hindu or Sikh, laying bare the ignorance behind so much of the fear.

        • Abbey Bartlet

          No, but, see, they *thought* the person was an Islamic, and they have a legitimate fear of the Islamics, because of the <1% of the population of Missouri that follows the Muslimism faith.

          • GeorgeBurnsWasRight

            The article isn’t clear, but the shooting took place in Olathe, Kansas.

            I suspect, but haven’t tried to look it up, that there’s even fewer Muslims in KS than MO.

          • Dennis Orphen

            One muslim > The 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates (and that includes Richie Hebner).

  • BigHank53

    I can hardly wait to see what he’s charged with. Will the prosecutor go for first degree murder and capital punishment? Manslaughter? Discharging a firearm in public? Creating a nuisance; sentenced to time served?

    • PeteW

      He’ll plead self-defense: After all he THOUGHT they were Moose-Lambs = Terrorists.

      • Davis X. Machina

        Economic anxiety. Those Garmin engineers were both foreigners, and had taken his job. Probably on H1-B visas.

        • Harry Hardrada

          Yes, the highly technical job he was entitled to because of his middle school education.

    • Lit3Bolt

      At least it isn’t terrorism! /s

    • Origami Isopod

      It’s Kans-ass, so I assume that last option.

    • DonN

      This certainly seems an act of terrorism. If it had been a Arabic dude shooting some white guys it would be taken as an act of terrorism.
      DN

  • Abbey Bartlet

    Could we maybe like not put swastikas as post headers though?

    • rea

      Why not? The picture is not, in context, being used to support Nazidom. It is unfortunately necessary to acknowledge and confront the Nazis in our midst. If pictures like this aren’t shown in the media, it will be denied that these things happen in 21st Century America.

      • Abbey Bartlet

        Because some of us don’t like seeing them and we already have to do so enough? I don’t know about you, but I’m going to refresh this page repeatedly over the next few hours, and I’d rather not be hit with a swastika every time.

        This isn’t the media. Papers and tv shows do and should show what’s happening. It’s plenty document. And this isn’t a post about antisemitism or swastika grafitti. The image doesn’t reflect the specific story, just the broader problem of what’s going on.

        And I don’t think anyone can plausibly accuse either LGM or me of not acknowledging and confronting the Nazis in our midst.

        • Crusty

          Well said. The websites for the ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center and Simon Wiesenthal Center manage to confront nazi’s in our midst without swastika’s on their front page.

        • efgoldman

          This isn’t the media.

          Well actually it is. It’s not traditional media. When you open your newspaper in the morning, and there’s been some kind of asshole graffiti incident, don’t you think they should publish pics so people can understand what happened?

          When the mosque nearest our house was tagged, I thought the pictures made it more immediate for everybody. It also engendered a lot more sympathy and outrage, just as the desecration pictures in St Louis did.

          • Abbey Bartlet

            I do think the paper and the teevee and the newsmedia should have pictures. I would even be okay (if not thrilled) with a post about it here having a picture of the desecration. But this is an unrelated post and I don’t see the need.

      • Dennis Orphen

        True and correct. However, it must be noted that the concepts put forward in Susan Sontag’s essay On Photography are no longer applicable in the digital age.

      • humanoid.panda

        My guess is because swastikas are not very SFW?

        • Nobdy

          Depends where you work. I imagine if you’re working for ICE or directly under Jeff Sessions they are very much encouraged!

    • Abbey Bartlet

      UPDATE: Apparently you can use AdBlockPro to block a specific image.

  • Lurking Canadian

    Somebody at the NYT is already warming up the macros: Lone wolf, not political, probably mentally-ill but no reason to restrict gun rights, etc, etc, etc

    • Bitter Scribe

      I think that’s more right-wing media than NYT, but yeah.

      • DrPretorius

        I have Sabrina Tavernise on the line, and she’s disappointed that you know so little of her work.

  • Abbey Bartlet

    Jefferson Beauregard just endorsed private prisons and rescinded the memo that would have decreased their use.

    But Hillary Clinton didn’t reject their cash with sufficient conviction, so both sides do it.

    • Dennis Orphen

      There are two ways to find yourself at war. One is to declare and/or make war upon someone. The other is someone making war upon you.

      • Abbey Bartlet

        …pardon?

        • Dennis Orphen

          They are crossing lines that shouldn’t be crossed by anyone ever. They are making war upon our liberal democracy.

          • Just_Dropping_By

            Since when does the question of prison privatization have any nexus with “liberal democracy”?

            • Abbey Bartlet

              That is unclear to me as well, but I agree with the point otherwise.

              • Dennis Orphen

                To clarify the point I failed to make above, a government that privatizes its prison system is a government that has declared war upon its own people, criminal or not.

            • Dennis Orphen

              Privatization of prisons (and all law enforcement/national defense in general) is a very slippery slope to stand on, for reasons we all either know or can figure out quickly, so I won’t go into them here (too busy).

              • Nepos

                Making prison a profit-making enterprise is a self-evidently bad idea. Unless you are a Republican, in which case you think it is a self-evidently good idea, for exactly the same reason progressives think it is a bad idea!

  • Owlbear1

    I must admit to a morbid fascination to see what happens when some one like Purinton screams some insult, aims his gun and gets shot by the victim or a bystander.

    • Roberta

      Hate crime! White genocide! The cops show up and shoot the Indian guy.

  • ASV

    Sure is getting crowded with all these lone wolves around.

    • BiloSagdiyev

      I can’t even remember all of the isolated incidents, let alone the terror attacks that didn’t happen.

    • efgoldman

      Sure is getting crowded with all these lone wolves around.

      Can we call them lone hyenas, or lone jackals, or something. Wolves are such beautiful and cool animals.

    • sonamib

      Wolves do hunt in packs. Not sure why “lone wolf” is the go-to word when people want to say the shooter acted alone. Why not “lone snake” or “lone bear”? Are actual lone wolves even a thing in nature?

      • Nepos

        A “lone wolf” is a generic term for a person who prefers to work alone (as opposed to a regular wolf, who works in packs.)

        So a “lone wolf” shooter is one without a pack.

        Also, if you type “lone” too many times it starts looking really weird.

  • Anna in PDX

    A Missouri man is accused of shooting and killing an Indian immigrant engineer he thought was Middle Eastern and wounding two others after shouting “get out of my country” and opening fire.

    Can I just say how sick I am of this kind of framing? “He THOUGHT they were Middle Eastern, but they weren’t! On top of being a murderer he’s a dumbshit! Ha ha.” As a Muslim with Middle Eastern kids I do not think it is funny at all. I remember this also being a thing I got really upset at a few years ago when someone shot up a Sikh shrine.

    It may just be me but I sense a tone of “if only he had known better and shot some real middle easterners it would not have been such a dumb thing to do” that really, really bothers me.

    I mean, someone who will kill people because they are not white, is obviously stupid and evil, you don’t have to draw attention to his special kind of stupidity in killing the wrong non-white people.

    Am I the only person who reacts this way? Am I wrong?

    • Abbey Bartlet

      I read it as underlining the fact that the ME people are being targeted regardless of their behavior, but I defer to your interpretation.

      • Anna in PDX

        Well my interpretation could very well be an overreaction, since to me this is not an academic question…

        • Abbey Bartlet

          As could mine to the swastika picture, but just as I would like Erik to defer to the people for whom that isn’t academic, I defer to you because this isn’t academic to you.

          • Anna in PDX

            I just get so upset! My son is named Osama and he works at UPS as a baggage handler and I just worry about him with these sorts of people running loose not to mention feeling empowered/enabled by the jerk in the white house. My other son does not “look as middle eastern” and his name is the less obvious “Omar” but I worry about him too.

            • Abbey Bartlet

              I completely understand, and I’m so sorry this is happening.

    • egg

      You are not wrong at all. The “this time he made a mistake” configuration implies it’s OK if the victims were actually middle-eastern instead of south asian.

    • efgoldman

      Am I the only person who reacts this way? Am I wrong?

      No and no. I don’t react as viscerally, because I’m not likely ever to be in that situation, but if I were an editor, I would make that framing a fireable offense.

  • anonymous

    He couldn’t mean US! I mean, Trump even sent me a gold-plated membership card!

    According to outdated “racial theory”, weren’t some northern Indians considered to be “Causasoid” and therefore “White”? And don’t some Indians consider themselves as White?

    Nikki Haley certainly did.
    http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/07/indian-nikki-haley-says-she-is-white%20

    • Anna in PDX

      People from India and Iran were actually the original “Aryans” and “Caucasians” as I understand it but I don’t really follow this kind of racist just-so story that is all those stupid old categories so I could very well be wrong…

      • ΧΤΠΔ

        Mostly correct, although Indians and Iranians have nothing to do with “Caucasian” which originally described the transcontinental West Asian peoples. “Indo-Aryan” is still in legitimate use to denote one of the two major South Indian ethnolinguistic groupings (the other being Dravidian).

      • Hells Littlest Angel

        “Racist just-so story” is a brilliant phrase I’ve never heard before.

        • Anna in PDX

          Thanks! It’s not original. I think the term applies really well to so many of these older “theories”.

      • nasser

        The reason whites are called Caucasians is because Blumenbach thought people from the area were extremely beautiful. Therefore, they had to be progenitors of the “advanced” race.

    • Dennis Orphen

      One way or another, there are no Republican POCs.

  • Warren Terra

    Some additional notes on the story, from The Kansas City Star:

    When the shooter got abusive, the bar booted him. He then came back with a gun.

    A bystander tried to intervene when the shooter first was being an abusive bigot, and later tried to tackle the shooter after he’d shot the engineers, perhaps thinking his gun was empty. This bystander (a white guy, a high school graduate, and a regular in the bar) was shot and is in hospital.

    There are several GoFundMe pages – at least, one for the slain engineer, one for the bystander, and one for both engineers. According to the story I linked above, the last of these (the only one that aids the surviving engineer) is considerably less well funded than the other two.

    I guess I’m saying these thing to point out that, yes, in Trump’s America there are more bigots feeling empowered to abuse and even murder the Other. But at least so far they are rejected by wider society – as when the bar expelled the shooter – and confronted by some brave people they probably would assume are on their side. Doesn’t make them less scary, nor the Breitbartesque movement that helps create them and runs the White House less awful. They are Trump’s Americans, and we’re living partly in Trump’s America. But: only partly. So far.

    • efgoldman

      Some additional notes on the story, from The Kansas City Star:

      A quick read doesn’t say the bastard asshole was drunk. I don’t know which would be worse, that he was or wasn’t.
      Also his picture in the linked “five things”…. you hate to stereotype by looks, but holy crap!

      • PohranicniStraze

        Looks 51 going on 80. Years and years of mainlining hatred and bile tends to age one badly.

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