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Good morning. I hope your Friday is off to a great start. Enjoy…(?)…these links:


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  • Murc

    … what precisely is the alt-left?

    Also too:

    It’s been a couple of days since I read it but I recall thinking this article on the “Stranger Things” “flaws” reads as if Freddie deBoer got a job doing entertainment reporting.

    That article is pretty bad but there are some good points in there. In particular, about Eleven. Because fuck what happened to her.

    ETA: Oh man, google is suddenly serving me ads on this site to buy Fast Times at Ridgemont High, and that has GOT to be because of this thread.

    • Hob

      IMO (likely biased: friend of a friend), Sean Collins is a really thoughtful critic and a good writer who shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as DeBoer. That article still irritated me despite making some points I agree with, but I think it’s just the same kind of thing that you’ll get with many critics: when they’re writing about stuff that moves and delights them, they’ll put all that thought into helping bring that work to life for you (see for instance Collins’s writing about A Song of Ice and Fire, Mad Men, and the works of Clive Barker)… but when it’s something that just didn’t do it for them, the result may end up looking like a lot of rationalizations for why no one else should have liked it either, especially if they feel like they’re pushing against a nearly-universal positive consensus.

      • Hob

        And by rationalizations I just mean stuff that isn’t so much just a difference of opinion, but where some kind of logical mechanism is being proposed for why X can’t work, even though in many others’ opinion X did work. Like the bit in that piece about how it was clearly a mistake for the show to have main characters from three age groups… which I’ve seen cited by many reviewers and commenters as one of their favorite things about the show. It’s like, “Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory?”

        But I’d rather read a critic who sometimes overreaches with that kind of thing than someone who just isn’t interested in theory at all.

    • J. Otto Pohl

      The alt-left are basically racist socialists that want socialism for white people.


      • advocatethis

        Ah, “race realists” they call themselves at that link. I’ll just stick with the tried and true contraction of that, rac’ists.

    • Redwood Rhiadra

      … what precisely is the alt-left?

      All the folks who want to #BernItDown in the hopes that the Glorious Peoples’ Revolution will finally result in the Great Socialist Utopia.

      There’s a lot more of them than you’d suspect.

      • BiloSagdiyev

        I sympathize with their frustrations. I have nothing but disdain for their estimations of the probabilities in this country.

      • rea

        … what precisely is the alt-left?

        Assange et al.

      • Murc

        I have never, ever heard this group of leftists referred to as the alt-left, tho.

    • witlesschum

      I really like Collins’ criticism, even though I have some pretty major differences in taste from him.

      I think his Stranger Things article is certainly spot on in identifying that it really wasn’t that interested in being horrifying. The show really did prioritize the people and relationships among the characters over really tying things into primal fears and creeping us out, the way the best horror does.

      I didn’t have a problem with that while watching Stranger Things, but I think he’s correct about what he observes there.

      Anyone who’d like to be entertained should look up one of his denunciations of The Walking Dead. He really hates that terrible show and it’s fun to hear him bash it into a bloodly pulp.

  • Karen24

    This Is an interesting article.

    • MedicineMan

      Not surprising in the least.

    • GeorgeBurnsWasRight

      Disagree strongly with the linked article’s assumption that Hillary will have to “govern from the center”.

      The extreme RWNJs have kept the House from accomplishing almost anything this year, and to the degree that the Dems defeat some House Reps this year, RWNJs will have even more control over the House next session. (I’m assuming that most RWNJs are in safe districts.) And for the rest of the Republicans to work with Clinton on almost anything will be political suicide.

      I have no idea how this country is going to function the next two years, but there’s no “center” for her to work with, IMO. Barring a complete sweep that gets us the House also, I suspect that all she’ll be able to do is get nominations confirmed, assuming we at least win the Senate, and aren’t stupid enough to keep the rules that Reps will use to block everything.

  • brad

    I would so love a Curt Schilling run for office.

    But then I’m a Yankee fan.

    • advocatethis

      I clicked through to the Schilling link and regarding the tweet with the Hitler picture on it, I have no idea what he’s talking about. I never saw the version that he said liberals are up in arms about, but I did see the one he said he actually tweeted and understood and still understand why people were upset. I don’t understand what point he’s trying to make.

      • brad

        You’re assuming he has a point to make.

      • BiloSagdiyev

        Point? Other than the one on his head? Nyuck nyuck nyuck.

      • BiloSagdiyev

        Point? Other than the one on his head? Nyuck nyuck nyuck.

        Do we need another social media platform? Or just a smartphone app? Something that gives them a button that sends out the message;

        ME ANGRY!

        Maybe two buttons, one to indicate: Mexicans, blacks, women, Arabs, Jews, vegans, vegetarians, etc etc, and the other for “Send.”


        It would just save everybody a lot of time, including the senders.

    • (((Hogan)))

      I would record those debates and watch them every Christmas.

    • efgoldman

      I would so love a Curt Schilling run for office.

      I do not understand why anyone on earth – except maybe his wife, maybe -gives a shit about the stuff passing for werdz that spews from him.
      He’s just another angry racist asshole.
      Since he can’t self-fund a campaign for town meeting member (his money is otherwise occupied, although some component of 38 Studios just settled with RI for $25mm).
      And if he did run, Liz Warren would make him cry like a little tantrumy, overtired baby. Just like his idol.

  • Ahenobarbus

    It’s been a couple of days since I read it but I recall thinking this article on the “Stranger Things” “flaws” reads as if Freddie deBoer got a job doing entertainment reporting.

    How so? You think Stranger Things is flawless?

    • No, not at all. And I need to go back and re-read to make sure I’m not making a snap judgement. Mostly I figure no matter where you stand on the show or that critique, it’s at least thought-provoking.

      • Hob

        I think maybe Ahenobarbus took the quotation marks to mean “Collins says there are flaws, but why would anyone use such a crazy word.” I figured you just meant “I don’t agree with Collins about what the flaws are, so I’m putting quotation marks to make it clear that this was his opinion.” It’s an ambiguous use of punctuation but there wasn’t any reason to assume you meant it in the most unreasonable way.

  • pseudalicious

    Adult Swim has been 5edgy5me since Space Ghost ended, but wow. They’re really taking it to a whole ‘nother level. Doesn’t Cartoon Network produce Steven Universe, the complete opposite, politically and quality-wise, of Hyde’s show? Or is that Nickelodeon?

    • Yes. They’re both from CN, apparently. Very weird.

    • brad

      They do make Rick and Morty, at least. But yes, that’s the only show of theirs that’s really registered with me in a decade or so.

  • starbuckle

    And the best part of the Schilling link is how he never asked the state of Rhode Island for a dime. Nosiree! They made him take the money!

    Still on the fence, Curt? Go ahead and run!

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