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Horse for All!!


As a historian of the Gilded Age, the sequester is very exciting to me. With each passing day, a big leap back to the halcyon days of the 1890s seems more likely. Here’s an old rundown I did at Alternet. Doesn’t it sound great?

And maybe we can just lay off all of our meat inspectors. Then we can all eat horse or whatever other product ends up in our meat!!!!

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  • Shakezula

    ‘Ere, you left out the riots. Can’t have a return to the Gilded Age wivvout the riots!

    • Data Tutashkhia

      What he also left out is the bolshevik revolution, and the adjustment to the prospect of something similar happening whenever they might push too hard. And now this constraint had been removed, more or less.

  • blowback
  • laslo

    Finding Flicker in your Mickey D shouldn’t be too upsetting to those who don’t mind the fecal matter, insects, and dirt that’s already there. Yummmm.

    • Be careful. The last time I insulted McDonald’s, by making the extremely obvious observation that the Filet-o-Fish was a terrible sandwich, I was accused of being an elitist.

      • laslo

        Careful, yourself. the FBI might designate your anti-fish comments as terrorism. And then it’s off to a CMU for you.

      • Incontinentia Buttocks

        I always have mine “wiz wid,” just to prove what a real American I am!

    • JoyfulA

      Flicka! Better chopped horse than chopped photographs (maybe, now that I think about it).

      • Hogan

        Or maybe it was supposed to be Flipper, which brings us back to Erik and the fish sandwich.

        • Bill Murray

          no Flipper was a mammal

    • swearyanthony

      You know who likes horse meat? The French!

      I propose we call it “Freedom Beef”, instead.

  • Mitt Romney

    Horse, if properly prepared, can be delicious. Ann and I ate Refalca after he lost at the Olympics.

    • You are what you eat, LOSER.

  • somethingblue

    I gather a German cabinet minister has already proposed that the recalled horsemeat be fed to the poors.

    They’re not even pretending any more.

    • Manta

      What’s wrong with that?

      • Malaclypse

        You go first. And if you aren’t willing to eat horse, then the reason you won’t is exactly what is wrong with the proposal.

        • Manta

          I did eat horse meat: it’s quite good. What I would strongly object to is being given horse meat while being told it’s cow.

          • Data Tutashkhia

            Steak de cheval, mmm-mm. Certainly better than steak de boeuf.

            • I’ve never had horse, but goat is goooooooood.

              I totally don’t get the “omg, horse meat!” reaction. You’d think they’d found plutonium in the hamburger.

              • Data Tutashkhia

                Well, many people feel that horses are domesticated animals, shouldn’t be used for food. My daughter grew up in the French-speaking part of Switzerland, used to go horseback riding every week. She would eat frog legs, but horse meat is out of the question.

                Although, if she found out that there were some bits of it in her hamburger, I don’t think it would be a problem, let alone a shock. So, yeah.

                • Hogan

                  Are cows not domesticated?

                • Data Tutashkhia

                  Yes. I guess they feel horses are domesticated in a different way. Like dogs. Or something.

                • Hogan

                  Companion animals, I guess. People don’t generally just hang out with cows.

              • DrDick

                I also love goat and have several friends who have eaten horse (and others who have eaten dog) and say it is quite good.

                • Richard

                  Birria is Mexican goat stew and is really good.

                • DrDick

                  I have eaten that, which makes great burritos. Cabrito (roast kid) and BBQ goat are also wonderful.

                • I’ve had Ramadan-ending goat’s head soup, and stewed Nigerian goat ribs.

                  Good stuff, and I guess it’s healthier than beef, too.

                • DrDick

                  Caribbean curried goat is also pretty awesome.

          • Malaclypse

            Perhaps, but there is a rather large cultural perception that it is inferior – hence the recall – so being “good enough” for the poors is pretty offensive.

            • Manta

              No, the recall is not because it is “inferior”. If they selled horse meat as horse meat, nobody would have complained.
              The recall is because they pretended it was cow.

            • Manta

              In other words: if they tested it properly & then gave it away for free, I would gladly take it (free food…). However, I can afford to buy food without much problems.

      • Shakezula

        Unless the word recall, when applied to food, &c, has a different meaning in Deutscheland, the fact that it is recalled would be the problem.

        • In both Germany and the US, food can be recalled for both being unhealthful and for being mislabeled.

          • Manta

            Actually, I read that the meat might also be tainted (by stuff they gave the horses): but if it’s properly tested and found OK, I would not object to it.

            • swearyanthony

              Right. These were not raised as food animals. That’s a slightly more serious problem. And that they were the wrong damn species suggests that they didn’t go through the most rigorous of safety inspections, to put it mildly.

              • Shakezula

                Right. I have no idea how many quality assurance bloopers it takes to put a tuna label on a can of salmon, but I am guessing the number is greater than 1.

                And … after foolishly checking the FDA’s recent recalls site – I revert to my original statement that you don’t want to eat food that has been recalled. (YMMV on the Autobahn.)

                Also too, looking at the USDA’s food recall info, great for those of us who are on a diet.

          • Shakezula

            I’m more familiar with tainted food and mislabeled pharmaceuticals, both incidents always being a cause for pants staining.

            What was the mislabeling here? Horse sold as cow?

            • Think about how much food has recalled for not including peanuts on the label.

              Yeah, selling something that is labeled as “beef” when it contains things that aren’t beef is mislabeling.

              • DrDick

                Also mislabeled fish (which has been in the news a lot lately).

                • It’s wrong that I can more confidently say what’s in my McDonald’s sandwich than in what I buy from the seafood counter.

                  Very, very wrong.

                • DrDick

                  I think the difference there is that you know McDonald’s is “mystery meat.”

                • No, seriously: that Fillet-o-Fish is, reliably, Pacific cod.

                  I have a much better chance of getting Pacific Cod if I order a Fillet-o-Fish than if I go to the fish counter and order Pacific Cod.

              • Shakezula

                But the peanut label is for people who will croak if they are exposed to peanuts, correct? I guess I can’t think of a mislabeling event where there wasn’t also some other risk involved. (Beyond the risk of eating food from a plant that had a QA snafu.)

                • So you got me curious, and I went to Food Safety News’ Mislabeling web page. The vast majority of the entries were about potential allergens (nuts and soy, mostly), but I did find this one, which was about a product that included some pork when it was labeled as veal.

    • Timurid

      First they came for the greasy Greeks, but I am not greasy or Greek… so I did nothing. Then they came for the Spaniards, but yo no hablo espanol… so I did nothing. Then they came for the Turkish invaders, but I am not a filthy Turk… so I did nothing. Then they came for the laziest Germans, but my work ethic is impeccable… so I did nothing. Finally, they came for the German middle class, and there was nobody left to +++ CARRIER LOST +++

  • Manta

    We were told (on this very blog) that people should vote Democrat, or the gilded age would come back. And, lo and behold, people did vote for a democratic president (twice) and republicans are in minority.
    And yet the gilded age is coming anyhow.

    (Some of the stuff you highlight happens at state level, though).

    • and republicans are in minority.

      Actually, they hold the majority in the House of Representatives. Despite losing the House races by a million votes.

    • I’m sure a third party vanity vote would have made a big difference here.

      • Manta

        The burden of proof is on you, this time: you were the one claiming that voting democrat would have made a big difference.

  • LeeEsq

    At least hipster moustaches are going to be sincere rather than ironic if we go back to the Gilded Age.

    • They are really laying the groundwork for the future.

      Time for women to start wearing outlandish hats as well.

      • Woodrowfan

        Gibson Girls!

  • Incontinentia Buttocks

    Are we now allowed to complain about how the White House handled the phoney 2011 budget crisis? That 14th Amendment option is looking pretty damn good now!

    • JKTHs

      Waiting for JfL’s inevitable response…

      • …and waiting.

        …and waiting.

        I can’t say I’ve ever waited for you to write anything.


        • JKTHs

          I’m still holding my breath. It’s been almost 2 hours.

  • LittlePig

    Now, now, President Milquetoast isn’t going to go for that. He never wants to be an angry blah man.

  • Loud Liberal

    “My dog’s bigger than your dog,
    My dog’s faster than yours,
    My dog’s better ’cause he eats Ken’L Ration,
    My dog’s better than yours.”


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