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If familiarity breeds contempt then a lack of familiarity must breed respect

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Members of the latest iteration of the Republican Party are less able to cope with criticism than their predecessors. Hilarity ensues.

For example, here’s Breitbartian and Bannon protege Sebastian Gorka invoking the If familiarity breeds contempt then a lack of familiarity must breed respect clause, which is regularly used by grade school students and annoying people on Twitter when someone says mean things about them.

A White House adviser made an angry phone call and threatened a lawsuit over a critic’s tweets about him, Newsweek reported Thursday.

The Newsweek story includes a recording of the lengthy phone call Gorka made after counterterrorism expert Michael S. Smith II questioned Gorka’s qualifications to be a national security adviser.

Gorka, whose experience and views on Islam have come under recent fire, phoned Smith Tuesday, asking to know “why this vitriol” was coming from him.

Just because he worked for a POS like Blightshart, is pals with white nationalists and his vanity and incompetent boobery poses a risk to the citizens of America is no reason for people to be rude.

Gorka repeatedly expressed confusion as to why Smith would attack him, emphasizing the fact that they have never met in person.

Y U talking about me? U don’t evn no me! #Wah :-(

“I look at your Twitter feed once or twice a day, and it’s half a dozen tweets about me, and I’ve never even met you,” Gorka said.

“Wow, are you defeating jihad by monitoring or trolling my Twitter feed?” Smith shot back.

lol

“Gorka asserted my tweets about him merited examination by the White House legal counsel,” Smith told Newsweek.

Ooga booga! Maybe lawyers will look at your Tweets about me! And then. You’ll. Be sorry. Or something.

Smith appears to be unimpressed and enjoying himself at the expense of Gorka and his defenders.

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  • LeeEsq

    It couldn’t of happened to a nicer political party. These a-holes need a good kick in the real. Lets hope it has a positive effect. The goal seems to reverse the New Deal and Great Society. They might be able to pull it off.

    • GeorgeBurnsWasRight

      I’m pretty sure reversing the results of the Civil War is also a goal for many of them.

      • Warren Terra

        Gorka is more interested in reversing the results of WWII.

        • efgoldman

          Gorka is more interested in reversing the results of WWII.

          Based on their reactions to a bunch of things, they want to reverse the result of the convention of 1787.

          What a fucking bunch of onion-paper thin skinned, whiny, weak minded, ignorant, stupid, shitty bastards.

          • petesh

            Preach it!

            • efgoldman

              Preach it!

              I’m tough, but fair.

              • los

                Where is your shame? You were offensively too kind.
                You need more bigly of Fair And Balanced. Put yourself in “Judge” Pyro’s heels.

                /”Pirro” – she’s Coulter’s evil sister’s evil sister’s evil sister.

          • cpinva

            “What a fucking bunch of onion-paper thin skinned, whiny, weak minded, ignorant, stupid, shitty bastards.”

            and that pretty much goes double for their orangey, whiny, fearless leader. given all that, consider what their supporters must be like.

            • DrDick

              Birds of a feather and all that…

        • UnderTheSun

          Nah, he’s more likely trying to rewrite the history of World War 2 – one of the articles about him on Brightfart mentions a Nazi siege of Budapest when the only siege of Budapest involving Nazis was towards the end of the war when the German Nazis and their Hungarian fascist friends were being besieged in Budapest by the Soviet Red Army.
          As for Smith’s specific complaint that Groka is unfit to be a national security adviser that’s undoubtably correct because he’s a lying idiot but generally I’d say that given how the so-called professional experts for at least the last two presidents have fucked things up, lack of experience should not bar someone from being a national security adviser.

          • efgoldman

            lack of experience should not bar someone from being a national security adviser.

            That’s arguable (I don’t agree) but being a fucking fascist should.

          • Keaaukane

            No shit? How does he feel about Raoul Wallenberg? Misguided hippie?

            • UnderTheSun

              How does he feel about Raoul Wallenberg?

              How should I know since you don’t make it clear who “he” is?

          • Warren Terra

            He openly celebrates Hungarian Nazi collaborators, and his closest allies and best friends go even further along the same lines. See the Forward article I linked in a comment below, but even that doesn’t really give a full sense of how much of a problem pro-Nazi nostalgia is in Hungary and in Austria.

            (Surely there should be a portmanteau for “Nazi Nostalgia”?)

            • Vance Maverick

              NStalgie?

              • efgoldman

                “Nazistalgia”?

              • Mrs Tilton

                Hervorragend!

            • Dr. Ronnie James, DO

              “Naztalgia”?
              “Kristallnachtstalgia”?

              • rea

                Gorkasim

            • UnderTheSun

              Perhaps if the United States and others had been a bit more thorough about de-nazification and a bit more careful about admitting fascist refugees from communism it wouldn’t be such a problem.

            • Harkov311

              From visiting Austria in 2009, the conservative groups there seem to have more nostalgia for the old Habsburg imperial days than the Nazis, whom even most conservative Austrians saw as basically foreigners trying to erase Austria’s cultural history and distinctiveness.

              Admittedly, that was a while ago, maybe they feel different now.

              • Q.E.Dumbass

                Well, the Nazis did lose the presidential election last year.

                (Also, um, heads-up about the nym change).

            • MAJeff

              (Surely there should be a portmanteau for “Nazi Nostalgia”?)

              Nazism

    • Nobdy

      “A Good Kick in the Real” is my favorite unreleased 4 Non Blondes album.

  • Nobdy

    Gorka’s statement amounts to “don’t be a player hater*” And it makes sense because Gorka and the rest do think of politics as a game. They don’t seem to understand that the bullshit they spout has actual effects on actual human beings who might get angry. They act like any opposition must be due to jealousy or irrational hatred rather than genuine concerns because jealousy or self interest are the only motivations they themselves experience.

    Republicans have moved so far away from actual patriotism they can no longer even understand the concept.

    *for the youths who read this blog “player haters” were discussed frequently in the 90s. They were jealous men who tried to disrupt the romantic relationships of more romantically successful men (players.)

    • ΧΤΠΔ

      Hey, I knew what that meant since I was at least eight in 2003 ( h/t Dave Chappelle). It’s also worth noting that around 2007, the same.time snap music was dying an undignified, well-deserved death, the term “player hater” had steadily degenerated into a strictly butthurt dismissal of critics. (Although its utility as a defense mechanism had already been recognized for some time; in O.C.’s “Win the G” from 1997, Freddie Foxxx spits the lyric “Just because I don’t like you, that don’t make you no player”.)

      • Nobdy

        A) Why were you watching Dave Chappelle at the age of 8, whippersnapper? His show was rated M for MATURE, okay? Bill Clinton didn’t invent the V-chip so you could DISRESPECT THE RATING!!!

        B) Get off my lawn.

        C) It was always sort of used for the purpose of dismissing critics, but I was explaining (what I believe to be) the origins of the term. It is also worth noting that the phrase “don’t hate the playa, hate the game” was popular around that time, which was a way of deflecting blame for your own actions onto “the system.”

        D) Seriously, whippersnapper, get off my lawn. I WILL CALL THE HOME OWNER’S ASSOCIATION ON YOU!

        • los

          “Well, you have crabgrass!”

      • Philip

        I like this thing where I’m not the youngest LGM commenter

        • busker type

          You! Off the lawn!

          • Philip

            Not before you old farts build some places for us millennials to live, dang it!

        • kenjob

          my enjoyment of this phenomenon has been attenuated by the subsequent revelation that commenters i thought firmly within my age cohort were voting before i was born.

          that said, chi tau is culturally literate in a way that might belie their youth if not for the whiff of anthropological curiosity which accompanies their remarks.

          • efgoldman

            commenters i thought firmly within my age cohort were voting before i was born.

            Shit, youngster, I voted before your mother was born.

            • kenjob

              truly, the past is a foreign country.

            • John Revolta

              You kids get up and get off my lawn
              ‘Cause I could vote before your mother was born
              You know I was born a long, long time ago
              So get up and go
              Or your mothers will know

          • ΧΤΠΔ

            I read the unabridged versions of both 20000 Leagues Under the Sea[s] and 80 Days Around the World in 5th grade — and I knocked out each book in a week — but I have to confess I’m not entirely sure what “anthropological curiosity” means here.

            • kenjob

              it was not meant to be unkind.

            • los

              20000 Leaks Under the DeepState

              • los

                20000 Leaks Under the Donald’s Sheets

            • ExpatChad

              I have to confess I’m not entirely sure what “anthropological curiosity” means here.

              It means “freaK” i THINK…

          • N__B

            that commenters i thought firmly within my age cohort were voting before i was born.

            You can only be young once, but you can be infantile forever.

            • tsam

              TRUE STORY BRO. not that I’d know a thing about childish

              • los

                It appears that tsam can paste into every LGM page, his usual, “You talking to me? You’d better hide, libtard! Every morning, eight days a week, at one minute past midnight, I swim 200 miles into the North Atlantic and eat a whole pack of Orcas in one gulp with both of my twenty foot long Alpha Penises knotted behind my back!”

                “Thanks Donald.”

                • tsam

                  Not banned yet!

                  Redeeming story. I just spent $1000 at Wishing Star.

              • kenjob

                tsam is one of the aforementioned.

                on the one hand, betrayal.
                on the other hand, something to look forward to. possibly a cautionary example.

                • tsam

                  Once in a while i say something intelligent you guys

                • efgoldman

                  Once in a while i say something intelligent you guys

                  “Hulk! Smash!!”

                  Stopped clock, and all that.

                • tsam

                  Damn–I better read some books and up my game

    • los

      Nobdy says:

      They act like any opposition must be due to jealousy or irrational hatred rather than genuine concerns because jealousy or self interest are the only motivations they themselves experience.

      “Next on Oprah, Alpha Dicks Who Feel Emotionally Threatened by Beta Cucks, and the 9.5s Who Love Them…”

  • keta

    “Sebastain Gorka” is an anagram for “gasket abrasion.”

    Highly fitting, as he really blew a gasket on that recorded phone call.

    Also highly appropriate as he’s part of Trump’s “finely tuned machine.”

    Appropriate, too, since he’s a fucking fraud, a liar, and an a href=”http://forward.com/news/national/364085/sebastian-gorka-trump-aide-forged-key-ties-to-anti-semitic-groups-in-hunga/”>asshole.

    • keta
      • Tom in BK

        At first, I was skeptical about listening to that whole thing. There are a few moments when it’s like, “Oh, this is almost over now,” but Gorka just can’t resist any bait, and voila: ten more minutes of crazy.

    • los

      “Finely-Shat Derp-Machine”

  • Warren Terra

    One of the profiles of Gorka earlier this week quite oddly phrased its description of his background, saying that he had a PhD from “a university in Budapest”. The Wikipedia description of his alma mater seems a bit irrelevant to Gorka’s current work on terrorism and national security:

    Corvinus University of Budapest (Hungarian: Budapesti Corvinus Egyetem) is a university in Budapest, Hungary. Corvinus University of Budapest defines itself as a research university oriented towards education. The university admits 14,000 students, offering educational programmes in business administration, economics, and social sciences.

    Corvinus University accepts students at six faculties and offer courses leading to degrees at the bachelor, master and doctoral level in specialisations taught in Hungarian, English, French or German.

    Apparently it’s a respected business school.

    Has anyone actually read his thesis? Is his PhD in any way respectable or relevant to his current work?

    Also (and largely unrelated) it’s worth seeing The Forward‘s article on Gorka’s antisemitic connections.

    • dnexon

      I’m taking one for the team and reading it now. It’s definitely not something that would get you a PhD in a standard North American or British political science department. The most interesting thing so far is this: “My conclusion will be that the existing hierarchical nation-state structures which were created as a by-product of the establishment of the modern nation-state must be flattened and made interdepartmental (SuperPurple). Additionally they must be refocused to be able to function internationally with our agencies of other countries, if we are to be able to manage the transnational threat to our safety that globalised hyper-terrorism represents.”

      Doesn’t seem very Trumpian.

      • dnexon

        Second impression: extensive references, especially to scholarly works, are (so far) beneath him.

        • dnexon

          About 1/3 of the way through. Derivative. Has a (mediocre) undergraduate thesis feel, insofar as much of the material is summarizing and paraphrasing a (very limited) set of existing work.

          • dnexon

            “Today, the transatlantic area is constituted by nations that do not hold grudges against one another which could reasonably lead to an armed conflict for territory or wealth. In fact continental Europe is now for the major part represented by an institutional form of integration that since May 2004 is made up of 25 countries representing the largest voluntary unitary market and trading bloc the world has ever seen. Thus both the NATO and EU community consist of nations whose national defence and security structures are wholly out of step with the danger they actually face; dangers that are without borders, capitals, or nation-state derived governments.”

            Weird mix of Trump rhetoric (NATO is obsolete) and non-Trump assumptions (democracy + economic interdependence is good for peace).

            • dnexon

              … Muslims are culturally unsuited to democracy because Islam doesn’t allow for free will ….

              This is supported by references to a conversation with “leading Hungarian Arabist Miklós Maróth.”

              • Warren Terra

                Wow. That’s a pretty strong claim, one that seemingly would have to be defended at length, not ascribed to little more than hearsay and appeal to alleged authority.

              • Dr. Acula

                Has this guy ever heard of Calvinism?

                • nasser

                  Or Indonesia?

            • los

              dnexon says:

              … and non-Trump disrespectful angry crying loser libtard! assumptions…

              Blasphemer! Gorka will be hearing from White house attorneys!11!

            • Murc

              Any chance of a full post on this, Dan? I don’t think the left blogosphere has published the definitive takedown of Gorka’s scholarship yet and it seems like you’re the man to do it.

              • dnexon

                Terrorism isn’t my area. But, as I’ve invested time in reading it, I could give it a go.

                • David Allan Poe

                  Doesn’t sound like it’s his area, either, so you’re probably good to go.

              • Seconded.

                The feel I’m getting from the excerpts is Immature. (Except for the last one which is: Islamophobic crud.)

            • cpinva

              “Thus both the NATO and EU community consist of nations whose national defence and security structures are wholly out of step with the danger they actually face; dangers that are without borders, capitals, or nation-state derived governments.”

              I would submit that many nations near Russia would argue this point.

          • los

            Did or did not Viktor Yanukovych read this paper? (and when did Yanukovych NeverRemember or NeverNotRemember it?)

          • Woodrowfan

            this whole administration seems like it’s being run by a collection of C- students who barely graduated from a not-very-demanding community college.

            • “Nothing could be worse than an administration heavy on Regency U. grads.”

              tRump: Hold my beer. It’s the best beer. Beautiful. You won’t – Clinton didn’t have a beer like that. The failing New York Times, CNN, BBC they said my beer tastes like battery acid smells but that was FAKE NEWS…

      • efgoldman

        “My conclusion will be that the existing hierarchical nation-state structures which were created as a by-product of the establishment of the modern nation-state must be flattened and made interdepartmental (SuperPurple). Additionally they must be refocused to be able to function internationally with our agencies of other countries, if we are to be able to manage the transnational threat to our safety that globalised hyper-terrorism represents.”

        I never went to grad school, but I did live ten minutes from Harvard.
        If I ever saw that dreck on a paper at any level, it would get a big, fat “F” across the whole title page in fluorescent pink Sharpie.
        Shit like that ought to be a jailable offense.

        ETA: Holy shit. It gets worse!

        • cpinva

          ok, thanks for that ef. I wondered if I was the only one who thought this reeked of less than PhD level work.

          • DrDick

            Hell it reeks of “not up to college freshman level”.

        • Bugboy

          It’s all word salad to me. But what do I know, I’m just a bug doctor, Jim, not a wordsmith…

      • los

        Perhaps so many work hours at Master Putin’s Kompromat House of Extreme Pee Vetting, left Gorka inadequate time for coursework?

      • Warren Terra

        Thank you for doing this. I look forward to seeing your considered take on it.

        I wonder if you’ve tried submitting the text to plagiarism detection software? Not because of Gorka in particular – the evidence seems to be that he likes to write, quite a bit, even if his writings aren’t taken very seriously – but because the whole thing reminds me of so much of what I’ve heard about the mid-career graduate degrees obtained by civil servants and politicians in northern and eastern Europe, with theses submitted more for the social standing their authors are accorded and to advance their careers within government, rather than in furtherance of any serious academic or intellectual goals, often at schools like his alma mater seems to be (centrally located, relatively modern, emphasizing management training, and with an alumni roster full of other political types) – and this is a phenomenon that comes with a steady trickle of plagiarism scandals.

        • dnexon

          Interesting. Would take about 5 minutes.

          It’s definitely about ‘getting that doctorate.’ If he’d submitted this as a BA thesis at Georgetown. we wouldn’t have given him credit for it.

          • dnexon

            5 minutes was optimistic. It’s a big file.

            • dnexon

              It’s clean, I think. Some recycled text—most in things he ‘wrote’ later, at least once from something he wrote earlier. Doesn’t surprise me. It has a distinctive voice.

        • Lurker

          To be exact, your cited link is not really a proofnfor the phenomenon you are describing. All European cases mentioned in the article are such where a politician had a doctoral degree from a domestic university, and in almost all cases, that university was quite respected am institution.

          The phenomenon where Germans and Austrians go to Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia or similar Central European countries to get an easier doctoral degree exists, though, but it is very much limited to persons of lower social stature. A doctoral degree from a non-state university in those countries is not great at opening doors in Germany or Austria.

          The question about the European mid-career dissertations I more complex, however. In my country, Finland, that was, actually, the “normal” model of doing a dissertation until late 1990’s. For example, your typical engineering scientist would work some 20 years in a state research institution or at a private company before actually writing a dissertation, which would then describe their life’s work. (Most had the “licenciate” degree previously, which comprises of doctoral coursework and a thesis equivalent to two master’s theses.) Only those who really wanted to become professors got their dissertations done early, and even they usually defended only well past the age of 30. Naturally, such a dissertation may be either a true gem showing a complete mastery of one’s field, or, if you happen to have too gentle pre-examiners (the equivalent of a thesis committee), it may be also less ambitious project.

          W
          hen I got my own dissertation in the modern manner, straight after my Master’s, working as a full time researcher with the expressed intuition of graduating in a few years, I still had older colleagues sneering at the idea of producing doctors in such an intentional manner. True enough: I was not able to distill a lifetime of experience into my dissertation, but that was also not its purpose. The purpose was to get a bunch of papers published in peer-revied journals, write a summary and then graduate to go on.

      • kenjob

        SuperPurple

        it is difficult to overstate how fundamentally this choice of terminology misapprehends the metaphor from which it is derived.

      • Dave Empey

        “SuperPurple” ?

        • Warren Terra

          Explained here, I guess, though it mostly looks like macho posturing – it’s extremely unclear how it could be done in practice, and what the specifics might be.

          • David Allan Poe

            Duh. Jointness, man.

            Jointness.

            Just think about that for a minute.

            • BiloSagdiyev

              Oh, man! Have you ever really looked at foreign policy? I mean, really looked at it?

              • David Allan Poe

                These powers, they aren’t just superpowers anymore, you know? Like, what’s past super? Mega? Humongo?

                Hyper. The US is a hyperpower.

                And, like, this terrorism? Hyper-terrorism.

                Blows my mind, man.

                Gimme my doctorate.

      • Tristan

        “hyper-terrorism” sounds like a cover blurb from OMAC

    • Lurker

      Actually, Gorka’s wearing of the Order of Vitez shows really bad taste in several ways. First, it is uncustomary for American civilians to wear decorations whatsoever. Second, Order if Vitez is stained by its association to Horthy’s dictatorial regime. Third, Mr. Gorka’s father was awarded the medal by a private anti-communist exile group, not by the government itself, and Gorka was wearing the medal based on a hereditary claim to the membership of the order.

      So, he was wearing a medal which signified, at the very most, that his father had served some exiled anti-communist group well. Personally, I must say that this is really déclassé. If you are going to go around sporting nazi medals, they should be at least medals you have earned personally.

  • karl

    “Smith is a Republican terrorism expert who has advised congressional committees and shares his expertise regularly in television appearances. Foreign Policy magazine included him in their ‘100 Leading Global Thinkers.’”
    No doubt, Gorka was number 101.

    • No doubt, Gorka was number 101.

      With his spotty record, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if someone told me that he’s not a Hungarian, he’s a Dalmatian.

      • Warren Terra

        Good joke, but he’s not Hungarian. He’s British (with Hungarian emigre parents) and went to Hungary for postgraduate education, employment, and to cosplay as a Nazi.

        • sigaba

          Holocosplay.

          It’s striking that blut and boden is such an alien concept to the American political experience that we have to import nationalists from Eastern Europe.

    • los

      karl says:

      No doubt, Gorka was number 101.

      and one behind Drumpf at ♫Wharton♫

  • JdLaverty

    At least this incident wasn’t followed by a flood of op-eds written by registered BiPartisans decrying the “lack of civility” and “media attacks on a respected public servant”.
    The idea that we should treat modern-day fascists, poor-haters and racists as if they’re acting in good faith is a stubborn one that still refuses to die.

  • los

    (linked by OP):
    Smith has repeatedly bashed and publicly questioned Gorka’s credentials for the job, creating the Twitter hashtag “#FakeTerrorismExpert” to describe his view of Gorka.

  • Plus which:

    Senior Trump Aide Forged Key Ties To Anti-Semitic Groups In Hungary

    But an investigation by the Forward into Gorka’s activities from 2002 to 2007, while he was active in Hungarian politics and journalism, found that he had close ties then to Hungarian far-right circles, and has in the past chosen to work with openly racist and anti-Semitic groups and public figures.

    Gorka’s involvement with the far right includes co-founding a political party with former prominent members of Jobbik, a political party with a well-known history of anti-Semitism; repeatedly publishing articles in a newspaper known for its anti-Semitic and racist content; and attending events with some of Hungary’s most notorious extreme-right figures.

    • bender

      I read this headline three times before I understood that “forged” was being used in the sense of “made” not “counterfeited”. I was seriously wondering why someone would pretend to be a Nazi sympathizer if he was in fact a Nazi sympathizer and not a police spy.

      • Abbey Bartlet

        Oh thank god it wasn’t just me.

  • Lord Jesus Perm

    Just wanted to say that seeing a line from Freddie Foxxx on a LGM comment thread made my weekend.

  • Dr. Ronnie James, DO

    “Blightshart”

    Would also have accepted “Frightfart” or “Far-right fart”

  • “I frankly was stunned that the administration would hire him to work in the White House on such critical issues as counterterrorism,” says Smith, a Republican who voted for Trump. “This could blow up in our faces, to have basically an amateur working on such important policies and working with people like [White House chief strategist] Steve Bannon.
    http://www.npr.org/2017/02/24/517097745/criticized-by-peers-white-house-counterterror-adviser-returns-fire?live=1

    It’s good that Michael Smith is exposing an unstable charlatan “terrorism expert” and expressing horror at his being hired by the administration, but I have to wonder what he was expecting when he voted for an unstable charlatan for President.

    • BiloSagdiyev

      Exactly. My eyes zeroed right in on:

      “This could blow up in our faces, to have basically an amateur working on such important policies…”

  • Woodrowfan

    keep in mind that the trump “Justice” Department will be relying on Hans Von Spakovsky for his opinions on voter fraud. VonS’s dad was a Russian White and a Nazi sympathizer in Yugoslavia. Son Hans is very proud of Dad’s record.

    • BiloSagdiyev

      Hey, it’s just a long record of anti-communism.

      (Poor people voting is commanism! Non-whites voting is commanism! Anything we don’t like is commanism!)

  • nasser

    What’s really scary is that Trump picked Gorka because of his amazing expertise he saw him on Fox News and recognizes a fellow blowhard. If I were President, and I am far from brilliant, I would not only not have chosen Gorka, I would not have been choosing a deputy assistant anyway – that is something to be delegated. So Trump is 1. a complete tool 2. doesn’t know how – or want – to delegate, thus completely undermining the whole point of having direct subordinates in the first place.

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