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grilled aubergine and courgette

I’ve heard of meat eaters showing contempt for vegans, but I guess I never made the connection between veganism and undermining the nation-state.

A vegan cafe in the centre of Tbilisi was shocked to find itself the subject of far-right ire after a group arrived and threw meat on patrons’ plates, leading to a public brawl.

Customers said a group entered the cafe wearing sausages around their necks and carrying slabs of meat on skewers, before attacking customers and staff.

Witnesses described the attackers as “far-right extremists”, and said the clash spilled onto the street outside after the attackers were asked to leave. Minor injuries were reported but the perpetrators fled before police arrived.

A statement issued on Facebook by the Kiwi Cafe on Monday described the incident as “an anti-vegan provocative action” accusing the attackers of being “neo-Nazis” who support “fascist ideas”.

According to the statement, the attackers “pulled out grilled meat, sausages, and fish and started eating them and throwing them at us… they were just trying to provoke our friends and disrespect us.”

This gets us closer to the real issue:

The statement also alleged that memberes of group had come to the neighbourhood a month earlier and asked a nearby shopkeeper whether foreigners or members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community frequented the cafe.

Of course. It’s the queers and their quinoa undermining Georgian manhood. For conservatives, it’s pretty much always some version of this.

I suppose all this means is that our commenter Progressiveliberal will see himself as even more of a martyr….

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  • Merkwürdigliebe

    They have a point. If people stop being willing to slaughter animals for food, they might also become reluctant to slaughter the Enemies of the Tribe.

    • Its adorable that you think so! Any shibboleth can be used as a reason to off any one, anytime.

      • Merkwürdigliebe

        Since it apparently isn’t clear – to the extent that this may be true, I consider it a good thing.

    • LeeEsq

      There have been many Buddhist majority countries that were equally into vegetarianism or something near it and a strong military ethos that validated the killing of other humans.

  • Warren Terra

    I heard an interview from one of the cafe owners; as you say, the cafe is a gathering site for pro-immigrant, pro-LGBTQ activists, and before bombarding it with meat products the neo-Nazis came in and tried to order meat products.

    Somewhat more upsetting (after all, you expect neo-Nazis to be scum) was that the commotion drew the cafe’s neighbors into the street, where they were apparently abusive of both sides equally, or even more abusive of the cafe than its assailants.

  • Captain Oblivious

    Sausages? Seriously?

    It would be fun to catalog all the unintentional ways in which far-right extremists, MRAs, homophobes, and a great many “pro-life” men reveal what their real issue is.

    • When subtext becomes text

      • Karen24

        This isn’t so much “text” as “neon sign.”

    • CaptainBringdown

      The phrase “sausage wielding nationalists” strikes me as redundant.

    • AMK

      “Some guys are wearing sausages and throwing meat at people”

      Obviously some kind of new avant-garde gay pride demonstration.

    • alex284
      • Captain Oblivious

        All waxed and buff, too. Looks like a model cattle-call for a GQ fashion shoot.

  • NeonTrotsky

    Yeeeesh and everyone says its liberals who get their feelings hurt by stupid stuff. Caring about what someone else eats should honestly be about the last thing anybody cares about.

    • J. Otto Pohl

      Food is a very important part of a lot of nationalist movements. I have found this to be particularly true in the former USSR. People’s ethnicity becomes tied to a particular set of cultural practices including cuisine and deviating from that is seen as a form of treason. I think I first encountered the relationship between food and nationalism watching Iron Chef in the 1990s when it became clear that some Japanese thought there was such a thing as “authentic” Japanese food and then deviations.

      • Captain Oblivious

        That’s not what’s going on here. I don’t know about other cultures, but there’s a deeply-rooted association between masculine power and meat-eating in European culture. And far-right extremism in Europe* is 100% about white male power. it’s not tied to any specific nationality.

        [ETA: *And in North America, Australia, etc.]

        • J. Otto Pohl

          Georgian traditional cuisine is heavily meat centered. I seriously doubt that Georgian nationalists whose main targets are other Caucasian groups care too much about events in Western and Central Europe. For instance they are far more concerned with Meskhetian (Ahiska) Turks, Armenians, Abkhazians, Ossetians, and Azeris then immigrants from Africa, refugees from Syria, Jews or any other of the targets further west. I seriously doubt the people who attacked the cafe think of themselves first and foremost as part of a pan-European white male power movement rather than as specifically Georgian nationalists.

          • Captain Oblivious

            I’m not saying they saw themselves as part of a larger white male power movement (although, to be honest, I’m pretty sure they do, because the white power movement is very interconnected throughout the world via the internet). Nor am I disagreeing with your other points.

            I’m just saying that this particular group was not engaged in some nationalist Georgia-uber-alles protest. They were attacking other Georgians, most likely of similar ethnicity, because far-righties find their fragile masculinity threatened by people who don’t eat meat (just as they feel threatened by LGBT people and by women who want to make their own reproductive choices).

            My point is that you find this everywhere in European-based culture. This incident is more extreme than most, but hardly unique. Get any random group of ten or so American males together to discuss vegetarianism, and at least three of them will make snorting noises and say something along the lines of real men like them need to eat meat.

            • Thirtyish

              This.

          • Georgian traditional cuisine is also vegetarian-friendly: lobio, mchadi, kartopliani, khachapuri, that almond paste whose name I can never remember, all the various eggplant dishes, and on and on. You could be a vegetarian Georgian and still never eat anything that your grandmother wouldn’t recognize.

            When I lived there, people calling themselves nationalist were far more concerned about policing the behavior of other Georgians than about anything to do with other ethnic groups.

            In the category of For What It’s Worth: I heard that cafe patrons retaliated with beans and spinach paste.

        • Thirtyish

          Yep. Meat-eating is an ethos for far too many people. As someone who doesn’t like most meat (but who falls short of strict vegetarianism), I have encountered sheer bafflement at my announcements that I rarely eat it. And there is absolutely a gendered component to this–as someone who is generally of the female persuasion, I probably receive relatively tame responses in comparison to men who announce that they don’t eat meat.

          • TribalistMeathead

            Meat-eating is an ethos for far too many people.

            As is veganism. And, as obnoxious as the ZOMG BACON crowd is, none hold the fanaticism of someone who refuses to go to the movies because the film stock contains trace elements of animal products.

            • Thirtyish

              This gets into subjectivity. I’ll personally always find the ZOMG BACON/ Moar animal parts/ MEEEEAAAAATTTT crowd more offputting than even the most zealous vegan.

            • Pseudonym

              Your pseudonym is a little too spot-on there.

              Vegans at least typically have a coherent ethical reason for not eating meat, and generally have learned to get along with those of us who do. I can’t think of any good reason to force someone else to eat meat against their will.

    • Captain Oblivious

      Apparently, if you don’t regularly consume something obviously phallic like a sausage, you’re not manly enough for them.

  • Quite Likely

    Do American conservatives look at something like this and feel embarrassed, or are they like “Right on, you show those vegan bastards!”

    • Captain Oblivious

      “Embarassed” is not in their emotional tool kit. However, “worried that this might make them look bad” is.

      • Thirtyish

        Actually, I don’t think either is experienced much by our conservatives. If anything, they’d probably look at this event and find a way to claim that the vegans provoked the harassment and attacks.

      • addicted44

        I bet they’re pissed that they didn’t think of this first.

    • Brownian

      “Several lone wolves with mental illnesses take a page from violent Leftists’ handbook”
      “Possible connection to meat-packer unionists?”

      No embarrassment necessary.

      (I know of a guy who describes himself as ‘to the right of Attila the Hun’ on Facebook, and is convinced that nearly all violence is committed by leftists. Apparently, Attila the Hun is shorthand for ‘extremely right wing’ because of his support for lower taxes and deficit reduction?)

      • J. Otto Pohl

        Being that Attila pred-dated the French Revolution not to mention the development of socialist thought by Marx, Engles, and others I don’t think the term right wing actually can be applied to him. On the other hand Genghis Khan and his descendents represent an interesting paradox. On the one hand they killed, pillaged, and raped on a scale few have matched. On the other hand they practiced effective civil administration of the areas they conquered. Compare the Mongol “Yoke” over Moscow and other parts of Russia with the US administration of Iraq.

        • Brownian

          Thanks. But, as I’m loathe to even interact on threads in which this weirdo appears, let alone talk to him directly, I probably won’t be correcting him.

        • The Mongols also had freedom of religion and eschewed torture (they’d kill you in a heartbeat but they’d be quick about it).

          A bunch of bleeding heart liberals I tell ya!

        • Pseudonym

          Compare the Mongol “Yoke” over Moscow and other parts of Russia with the US administration of Iraq.

          Make me.

      • Davis

        It’s an old moniker for righties.. Frank Rizzo once said the he was going to make Attila the Hun look like a faggot. Ironically, Attila allowed Pope Leo to talk him out of sacking Rome; at least that’s the story.

    • DrDick

      Given their own weird obsessions about food, I suspect the latter.

  • Denverite

    OT, but Georgian food is delicious.

    • Captain Oblivious

      No vegan food is delicious, IMO, but looking at the non-vegan pictures in the Wikipedia entry has my mouth watering.

      Where TF have you had Georgian food?

      • Denverite

        Moscow

      • J. Otto Pohl

        There is a great Georgian place in Tartu, Estonia. There is a decent and thriving Georgian cafe over off of Kievskaya Ulitsa in Bishkek. Those are the two places I can remember off the top of my head.

      • SamChevre

        Around here, you can get some Georgian dishes in Russian restaurants. Khachapuri (bread stuffed with cheese or meat).

        Think “the Russian version of Greek/Turkish food.”

      • No vegan food is delicious, IMO,

        Sigh. Really? On a post about vegans being assaulted?

        And really? There’s absolutely no food without animal products that you don’t like? A fresh peach? A handful of nuts? A peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

        • J. Otto Pohl

          I like Indian food including the vegan versions. But, it too is connected to nationalism. Hindutva activists have the opposite views on meat and vegetarianism from the Georgian nationalists. But, they both share a hatred of Muslims so there is that.

          • I like Indian food including the vegan versions. But, it too is connected to nationalism.

            Well, what isn’t? I mean, nationalists are going to use any cultural signifiers they can and food is a strong one.

          • Karen24

            I would soooo love to see white nationalist loons attack a Hindu nationalist restaurant, mainly because the arguments over who was more Aryan would suck all of them into an black hole.

            • J. Otto Pohl

              The Indians are more Aryan. I don’t think there is any argument.

              • Amanda in the South Bay

                Jehovahs Winesses are even more Arian than either.

        • wjts

          There are plenty of dishes containing no meat, dairy or eggs that I find absolutely delicious, but somehow the word “vegan” immediately conjures up in my mind an image of a sort of sandwich made from unseasoned chickpeas between two slices of raw eggplant. Maybe a name change is in order?

          • A lot of vegan (and vegetarian) food in the US used to really really suck, esp. that which tried to ape existing dishes (and did so poorly). Part of that was inexperience and part of that was being connected with the “unfun” health food movement.

            Both exposure to vegan world traditions and just interest by cooks have improved things a ton.

            But things have gotten a lot better! Vegan baking esp. Almond flour cakes are super. My best and easiest chocolate cake is “accidentally” vegan.

            • wjts

              Yeah, I think I forged the association sometime in the 80s or early 90s.

              As for vegan baking, I’ll politely pretend to take your word for it but can’t quite actually bring myself to believe that one can make a good chocolate cake without eggs, milk, and butter.

              • random

                Absolutely you can. In fact I’ve had vegan chocolate mousse cake that I had to force myself from finishing off in one sitting.

              • Really. I’ve used two varients of the basic recipe and it’s brilliant.

                First, oil cakes, in general, can be really good. It’s fun to play with richer oils like olive. Second, almond flour cakes often use eggs but don’t have too. The oil in the almonds does the work of uilding a rich mouth feel.

                And seriously, this cake is a wheat flour marvel. Easy, rich, moist, and vegan. And I was not at all aiming for a vegan cake. Surprised the hell out of me.

                • Pseudonym

                  Doesn’t sound very gluten-free though.

                • Nope. You can do wonderful gluten free cakes with almond flour, but this is a wheat flour based cake.

                  What surprised me about it was that I was used to think about non almond flour vegan cakes as…not really cake cake. This recipe family opened my eyes.

            • Brownian

              A lot of vegan (and vegetarian) food in the US used to really really suck, esp. that which tried to ape existing dishes (and did so poorly). Part of that was inexperience and part of that was being connected with the “unfun” health food movement.

              Both exposure to vegan world traditions and just interest by cooks have improved things a ton.

              This is consistent with my experience in Canada as well (not vegetarian, but have had a lot of vegetarian and vegan friends over the last couple of decades.

              Increasing acceptance helps, too. Twenty years ago I knew of one or two vegetarian restaurants. Now, if you asked me to name a nearby vegan restaurant, I’d get you to give me a few cuisine preferences to help me narrow down the list. Even some of our restaurants that aren’t vegan/vegetarian have vegan-only days once a week or month.

            • Anna in PDX

              I am not a vegetarian or vegan but I love vegan deserts. The cake and other baked goods are usually moister and yummier by far than normal kind made with eggs. I do not know how they do it but vegan desserts are the best.

              • wjts

                I’m not sure I’ve ever had any, but I’m also not a big eater of baked desserts like cake and such.

                • Do you like pie?

                • wjts

                  Some kinds. I just don’t eat it very often. (Thanksgiving and Christmas probably account for something like 95% of my annual pie/tart intake.)

          • Brownian

            Even some vegans and vegetarians I’ve known get weird about labelling, if in the other direction.

            I had a former partner who was an ovo-lacto pescav pisca—a vegetarian who ate fish, cheese, and eggs, but was unable to order dishes from a restaurant unless they were specifically labelled ‘vegetarian’. We’d sit down at a restaurant, she’d find the one ‘vegetarian’ dish on the menu unappetizing (this was the late 90s, before vegan/veggie restaurants were as ubiquitious and varied as they are now), and declare unhappily that there was nothing for her to eat. I’d point out the dishes on the menu that contained no non-fish meat but didn’t include the word ‘vegetarian’ in the name, she’d facepalm over her silliness, we’d have our meal, and then repeat the whole process all over again the next time we ate out. It was…frustrating.

            She was, in most other respects, entirely brilliant. And it’s thanks to her and others that I’ve no problem cooking vegetarian or vegan dishes, and can cook them alongside meat dishes without risk of contamination—I might have to thank my OCD for that last skill—but damn she was difficult to please in a restaurant.

        • Captain Oblivious

          I fail to see why my food preferences (or stating them) should be constrained by other people’s anti-vegan violence. which of course I abhor.

          • Well, your nick is aptly chosen, then.

          • Thirtyish

            You might reasonably question the relevance that your opinion about vegan food has to the thread (or your intentions in stating it), though. Context matters.

        • TribalistMeathead

          A peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

          That’s definitely a vegetarian meal, but the odds that the peanut butter, jelly, and bread contain no animal products are slim.

          • but the odds that the peanut butter, jelly, and bread contain no animal products are slim.

            Really? Do you mean as ingredients or contaminants?

            If you require no harm to any animal in the entire chain of your food, you’re pretty screwed :)

            • TribalistMeathead

              Ingredients.

              I speak from experience, having had to locate a loaf of bread that I could use to make vegan French toast for my sister-in-law, and having had to do so several hundred miles from the nearest Whole Foods or Trader Joe’s.

              • jam

                I’d swear by the (incidentally) vegan recipe I use which requires only flour, water, yeast, salt, and oil. Though I confess I don’t use much store-bought bread these days, so I don’t know what commercial bakeries use.

          • Peanut butter and jelly generally don’t have animal products. Bread varies by the bakery. It’s not hard to find vegan bread; the only things you have to look out for are dry milk and honey.

            • Right. Bread in the U.S. Can be very odd, but bread obviously doesn’t need milk or honey. Indeed, those should be special, not the basic, breads. Flour, yeast, water, and salt. That’s bread.

              Of course, my UK chums in the U.S. complain about how hard it is to get bread without sugar in it. In the UK I’m annoyed that. Lots of single serving yougurt has geletin in it.

              Mass produced food can get very very odd.

      • djw

        I’ve had it twice, both outstanding meals: Pomegranate, a Russian/Georgian restaurant in San Diego, and Kari Gogo, a food truck in Portland.

      • Merkwürdigliebe

        In a spirit of kind openness towards other points of view, I will admit to knowing what you’re getting at. But allow me to assure you that vegan food containing protein (beans are best) and tomatoes (umami) can indeed be delicious and entirely satisfying to a palate of someone otherwise regularly consuming meat.

        • Captain Oblivious

          Believe it or not, after 64 years on this earth, and spending a good amount of that time living in places (like the SF Bay Area) where it’s easy to find just about every cuisine imaginable, I’ve actually tried all this shit, and I pretty much know what I like and don’t like.

          I’m sorry if stating my personal preference came across as dismissive of veganism. It wasn’t meant to be. But vegans need to stop go around telling everybody how wonderful the food is. Different people have different tastes. If you want to sell veganism, play the health benefits and animal rights angle. Don’t tell people you don’t know what they will like or don’t like.

          • Merkwürdigliebe

            I have nothing to sell. The constraints put on vegan food do limit its sensory expression (and nutritional value) so it usually ends up inferior to non-vegan variations of the same dish (after all, almost anything can be improved by just adding butter).

            But if your firmly held position is “I won’t ever enjoy anything that doesn’t contain animal products,” well…

          • djw

            It seems weird because “vegan food” isn’t a particular style or tradition or culture of food with distinct flavor profiles, but a descriptor of a wildly diverse array of food that has little to do with each other. There’s dishes in virtually every food tradition that are either vegan by standard preparation or can be made so with trivial modifications. It really does seem really weird and improbable that there exists no dish without some meat, egg or dairy you don’t find awful. Babaganush or Hummus? A really good well-seasoned veg stir fry? Aloo Gobi? Various delicious Indian sauce-based dishes with chunks of tofu/chickpea/potato/mushroom/whatever veg you like rather than paneer or meat? Pasta with really really good marinara sauce? That’s a huge range of food. I know some picky eaters, but I don’t think I know any that picky.

          • You’re still being an ass.

            And again, you do t like PB&J. Peaches? Steamed green beans in a lemon vinaigrette? Orange juice? Beer?

            I guess it’s possible that you literally need an animal product in everything, but I’m skeptical. You could have stated your claim positively, “I really like to eat meat or fairly or eggs at every meal”, but, well, didn’t.

        • Thirtyish

          When done well, vegan food is all-out amazing.

          • Well, one is certainly amazed.

          • addicted44

            Problem with “vegan” food in the US is that it’s basically used to describe trying to create meat dishes without the meat.

            If instead of starting with a meat dish and trying to make it vegan, you start with a vegan ingredient list, and try and come up with dishes (which has only recently become more popular), you can come up with some great food.

            • One of my pet peeves.

              If I’m going to eat vegan/vegetarian I don’t want something pretending to be a cheeseburger.

              If I want a cheeseburger I’ll get a cheeseburger. If I want vegan then I’ll eat vegan.

              • Warren Terra

                There are always claims that one day a vegan (or at least vegetarian) cheeseburger will be made that is nearly indistinguishable, or at least that is as good if differently so. So far these predictions seem unmet.

                But, yeah, we have a problem that there’s a lot of great vegetarian food, that the vegetarian foods that seek to imitate meat dishes usually aren’t great, and that the two categories get conflated in a way that does no good for the reputation of vegetarian food.

              • Which is fine for you. I sometimes like the meat imitation products, esp Chinese textured wheat gluten.. But the occasional veggie sausage is fine too.

                I like all sorts of veggie burgers (or veggie pasties, really). Boca burgers are the only ones aiming to be meat that I like, but I don’t really care if they are meaty, just kinda like em.

                • The Temporary Name

                  Yeah, there’s a lot of fake meat that’s terrific. A Chinese art.

                • tsam

                  Boca (I think) makes a breaded Tchicken(?) patty that is vegetarian. One patty, one hamburger bun, 2 slices of cheddar cheese, ya gotcher self a nice sandwich. They’re pretty dang good.

                • Jackov

                  Right. Family hits the Chinese fake meat place
                  twice a year because it is good and different
                  from all the take-out Chinese we eat.

                  We recently discovered a fabulous vegan Vietnamese place with borderline great dishes featuring soy meat when we took a vegan friend out when he was in town.

            • djw

              Problem with “vegan” food in the US is that it’s basically used to describe trying to create meat dishes without the meat.

              Interesting; that’s not really how I seem to encounter it. I routinely see menus with dishes given a “vegan” designation that are traditional meatless dishes–pastas with non-meat sauces, french fries, veg stir fries, etc. At least where I see it, it seems ingredient-driven; a designation provided to reduce unnecessary questions for the servers. (I don’t frequent any strictly vegan restaurants, but I do go to a lot of places with a significant vegetarian/vegan clientele.)

              The other main use I see is as a form of self-identification. “I’m a vegan,” obviously, means I don’t eat animal products, not “I eat dishes that use veg ingredients to mimic meat”/

              • Anna in PDX

                Yes, this. For example at Lebanese restaurants they list a lot of their choices as “vegan” and/or “gluten free” just so that people know which items don’t contain meat/animal products/ etc. at all.

              • Warren Terra

                There is a point sometimes to statements that seemingly obviously vegetarian items are in fact truly vegetarian or vegan, as there is always the risk that beef fat or lard, or beef or chicken soup stock, or animal-derived gelatin may be ingredients.

                McDonalds in the 80s and/or 90s advertised that their french fries were “cooked in vegetable oil”, which was true – each McDonalds restaurant cooked their fries in vegetable oil. The fries they were cooking had been sliced and fried once in beef fat at the factory, though, before being flash-frozen and shipped to the stores.

      • tomscud

        In Chicago, Turkish Cuisine (which is fairly far to the north – I think maybe on Peterson?) is a stealth Georgian restaurant.

      • Matty

        Miami (Sunny Isles Beach, actually). On vacation. Went expecting to eat a ton of Cuban food, got introduced to khachapuri and those little soup dumplings instead. Genuinely delicious, and I regret nothing, but not what you want to eat on a 90 degree day.

        On the point of vegan deliciousness, I will point out that guacamole is vegan.

      • I can also say that Berlin has a couple of good Georgian restaurants. There were also some stories in the Washington Post last year about some people trying to build buzz and work toward opening a Georgian restaurant in DC.

        Georgian vintners have also supposedly retained some sort of crazy number of local varietals. I like the mukuzani better than the saperavi.

    • Thlayli

      Georgian food is delicious.

      Insert obvious “boiled peanuts and Vidalia onions” joke here.

  • TribalistMeathead

    If ever there were two groups that are both equally awful, it’s people who are rabidly vegan and people who are rabidly anti-vegan.

    • jam

      As long as you can find a way to denounce both sides, that’s the important thing.

      In my experience, the nosy and obnoxious anti-vegan contingent far outnumbers obnoxious vegans. But it’s easy to ignore them if you never experience their scrutiny.

      • Davis

        Well, vegans may seem to meat eaters that they’re trying to make them feel guilty without actually saying anything.

        • jam

          That would seem to be the problem of the meat-eaters. I’m not vegan, but I couldn’t care less what another person eats (or chooses not to), short of cannibalism or eating live animals.

          A vegan’s dietary preference and choices are about themselves, not about other people.

          I can say it’s a regular occurrence where ordering an entree that doesn’t contain meat draws questions, sometimes hostile, almost always unwelcome, about why I prefer something different than they do.

        • JL

          Isn’t this true of anyone who takes an ethical stand outside the norm?

          My stepdad is convinced that every Prius driver is personally, with their car, making a statement about how he should feel guilty for driving his truck, and will rant at length. He gets snarky about my activism on similar grounds. And I’ve met a lot of people who dislike activists instinctively because they think that simply by getting involved, activists are making an “I’m a good person and you’re not” statement. When I was a kid, and recycling was not yet, in my area, anything like the norm, people thought that people who recycled were trying to make them feel guilty, whether or not it was true. I sometimes encounter drivers who think cyclists are trying to shame them by riding a bike.

          People will always think that other people are making personal ethical decisions “at” them.

    • Warren Terra

      Vegans, like enthusiasts and evangelists of any sort, can be tiresome. But that doesn’t mean you should abuse vegans practicing their veganism in their own cafe.

    • witlesschum

      Maybe in rhetoric, but I’m not aware of any organized vegan attacks on Outback steakhouses…

      • jam

        Existing-while-preferring-a-diet-that-isn’t-mainstream is the most hostile possible act.

      • Warren Terra

        There have of course been attacks on some institutions or individuals motivated by veganism, or by animal-rights ideologies close to veganism. Though I’m not sure what this is supposed to prove.

  • SamChevre

    When a Georgian says “immigrants”–who do they mean?

    • J. Otto Pohl

      Returning Meskhetian (Ahiska) Turks deported to Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan by Stalin in Nov. 1944, Armenian, and Azerbaijani communities, and basically anybody not ethnoracially Georgian. At best people not Georgian by blood can be “guests”.

      • “At best people not Georgian by blood can be ‘guests.'”

        Only in the Georgian RWNJ version of things. Under the first post-communist government, that view led to the near collapse of the country and the wars that produced the de facto separation of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. The Saakashvili government worked hard to establish a broader, civic view of citizenship, a practice that Georgian Dream has largely continued. It’s working reasonably well.

  • keta

    Sausagalists, or the “Georgia Hots” cited in this story, are made up of a lot of disparate groups, a real mash-up of some of the wurst elements in any given society, all linked by hate and fear of otherness.

    Generally speaking, the “bangers” of any Sausagalist cell (or “tube”) are the ones inciting violence, but in some cases the headcheese may designate select street meats to “get frank.”

    Some say the movement started as a tiny entity in Vienna, and all agree the formation wasn’t pretty, but whatever the case Sausagalists want their say, and don’t intend on mincing words when they do.

    • Karen24

      I can’t decide whether this is brilliant or horrifying.

    • so-in-so

      Bravo!

    • Oily, salty, golf claps.

    • Brownian

      Punny comments are usually a real grind, but not in this case.

    • random

      This post is indeed the winner here.

      • veleda_k

        I think you mean wiener.

  • DrDick

    And here I thought our rightwingers were whackaloons. I will have to ask my Georgian student for enlightenment on this.

  • Shantanu Saha

    So this protest was a total sausage fest?

    • tsam

      Heh.

      You hit the line between golf clap and winning internets. 7/10. Would read again and laugh about it.

      Further consideration: The dick joke aspect earns you a free point. 8/10. Well played, person.

      • Shantanu Saha

        Thanks. I was going for the triple entendre: meat hanging from the attackers necks, the fact that most were men, and that they were homophobes. Too bad the diners couldn’t have just put the sausages on their plates and started carving. It would have made the joke complete.

  • tsam

    Where in the wide world of sports do these assholes come up with the energy to be THIS FUCKING MAD ABOUT PEOPLE NOT EATING MEAT?

    • Thirtyish

      Anxious masculinity’s potential to be violent knows no bounds.

  • You know, I like meat as much as the next guy but I don’t need to have it every freakin’ day.

    • tsam

      GO BACK TO RUSHA COMMY

      • Does this ushanka hat make me look fat?

        • tsam

          No, it really brings out the RED in your EYES, COMMIE

  • Aubergine

    Oh, that looks yummy.

  • michael8robinson

    Anti-vegan neo-Nazis?

    Seriously?

    Are you sure they weren’t nihilists?

    I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.

    • Shantanu Saha

      Wasn’t Hitler a vegetarian?

      • Moondog

        Well he did claim to be vegetarian. And I don’t think Hitler would lie to us.

  • YosemiteSemite

    Some of the attackers “wore sausages around their necks.” Ummm-hmmmm. OK, then. Those are the wurst.

    What is the appropriate defense against wielders of wurst? I think maybe squeeze bottles of Dijon mustard — a good shot in the eye, and ….

    • A Tbilisi-based mailing list that I am part of passed along reports that patrons (maybe also staff?) retaliated with lobio (a bean stew) and pkhali (a spinach paste).

      So there ya go.

  • CJColucci

    I should have known better than to read a food-related post the day before a colonoscopy. Twenty four hours from now I’ll be eating like a pig. Maybe at the Georgian restaurant in NYC.

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