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Reductio ad Derpum



BERNIE DEAD-ENDER #1: “What have you done for the revolution today, comrade?”

BERNIE DEAD-ENDER #2: “I sent 50 BLISTERING tweets each to five women who remain unconvinced that the question of which liberal is the Democratic nominee for president and how far to the left of the median vote of a Republican House the next Democratic president is constitutes a question of apocalyptic significance. Some may even engage in the counterrevolutionary act of voting for Hillary Clinton.”

#1: “Brilliant! The end of capitalism is surely imminent!”

#2: “And, yet, I am tired by such intense intellectual labors. Perhaps we could try something a little more cheeky.”

#1: “I know!”

Philadelphia: Cheri Honkala, the leader of the Poor People’s Economic Human Rights Campaign, announced that her group was organizing the world’s largest “fart-in” to be held on July 28 at the Wells Fargo Center during Hillary Clinton’s anticipated acceptance speech for the Democratic nomination.

“We will be holding a massive bean supper for Bernie Sanders delegates on American Street in my Kensington neighborhood on the afternoon of July 28,” she said. “We are setting up a Clintonville there, modeled on the Hoovervilles of the 1930s where the poor and unemployed built shanty towns. The Sanders delegates, their bellies full of beans, will be able to return to the Wells Fargo Center and greet the rhetorical flatulence of Hillary Clinton with the real thing.”

Honkala said she would issue an invitation to Sanders to join the bean supper, which she is calling Beans for Hillary. She has asked donors to send cans of beans to 1301-W Porter Street, Philadelphia, Pa., 19148.

“Any remaining beans will be served to the homeless, although we will, of course, be urging Sanders delegates to eat as much as possible,” Honkala said.

Chris Hedges, an author and activist who is an ordained Presbyterian minister, will open the Beans for Hillary meal with a nondenominational prayer.

“I am happy to bless a meal that will be put to such effective political use,” Hedges said.

“The Democratic primary process, as Sanders supporters now realize, was rigged from the start,” said Hedges, a Pulitzer-prize winning former New York Times foreign correspondent. “The Democratic National Committee and the Clinton machine used a variety of mechanisms to game the elections including the appointing of superdelgates, the banning of independent voters from numerous primaries, purging voters from voting lists and using millions in dark money and from Super PACs to fund the Clinton campaign. Caucuses, as we saw in Nevada, were shamelessly manipulated on behalf of Clinton. Sanders never had a chance.”

#2: “Brilliant! If Chris Hedges thinks something is politically effective, you know it’s pure genius!”

#1: “And when people hear him explain how the DNC rigged everything by allowing the candidate who had far more votes and pledged delegates to become the nominee, surely they will rise up and depose the neoliberal Jill Stein agrees with 90% of the time for the hardcore socialist she agrees with 95% of the time.”

#2: “Indeed! Make sure people have plenty of practice using their armpits too.”

#1: “Oh, I think everyone’s already in fighting shape there.”


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  • wjts
    • mikeSchilling

      She’s on first.

  • Judas Peckerwood

    If The Revolution involves mass farting in confined spaces, you can count me out.

    • delazeur

      If I can’t fart in confined spaces, I don’t want to be part of your revolution.

      • Judas Peckerwood


      • CP

        And thus, the schism between the Judean People’s Front and the People’s Front of Judea was accomplished.

        • Warren Terra

          I think you mean, the Judean People’s Fart and the People’s Fart of Judea

          • mikeSchilling

            The conflict between whom is best described as farticidal.

    • “But when you talk about digestion/Don’t you know that you can count me out…”

  • keta

    Hmm. Talking out of their asses, I see.

    How very ass toot.

    • Judas Peckerwood


  • Honoré De Ballsack

    Face it, though: if you’re named “Cheri Honkala,” you’ve pretty much got to arrange a Fart-In at some point. I assume Enos Ripper and Windy Butts are also on the organizing committee.

    • Ernest Pikeman

      Somebody named De Ballsack is making fun of a perfectly legitimate Finnish name? Carry on then.

    • Caepan

      The upstanding alumni of Breakwind State University.

  • HenryW

    This was something that Saul Alinsky came up with millennia ago. His target was the one percent who attended the Rochester Symphony; the issue was the exploitation of black workers at Kodak.

    • Hogan

      He never carried it out, though.

      • ASV

        Alinsky was a sellout.

    • I thought that was the flush in? Where everyone was encouraged to simultaneously flush the toilets in order to bust the pipes?

      • Hogan

        You may be thinking of his Chicago shit-in, which involved sending roaming teams to O’Hare to form lines five deep at all the urinals and some people to go into stalls with a bag lunch and something to read and spend the day there, leaving air travelers with nowhere to, uh, go. That too was one where the threat was enough to get the PTB’s attention

  • Between the organizer’s last name and this, I hoped our legs were being pulled.

    “Any remaining beans will be served to the homeless, although we will, of course, be urging Sanders delegates to eat as much as possible,” Honkala said.


  • NonyNony

    Honkala said she would issue an invitation to Sanders to join the bean supper, which she is calling Beans for Hillary.

    I really hope that Sanders personally calls her and tells her that her ideas are stupid and that she should feel bad for saying them out loud and in public.

    • He’s more likely to hold his nose and join her.

  • When did Chris Hedges go so utterly loony?

    • I recall him writing some petulant screed against atheism a while back. I had no idea he’d gone off the deep end into full-on conspiracy theory territory, though.

    • Warren Terra

      Yeah, this was my response. I had no idea!

    • leftwingfox

      I thought he was talking about Chris Hayes for a moment so I was even more confused. :P

      • lahtiji

        You’re not the only one.

        All In with Chris Hedges doesn’t have quite the same ring.

    • Origami Isopod

      I read American Fascists some years back, and I was struck by how much it read like the the rantings of a “the end is nigh” streetcorner preacher, only stylistically better. I mean, yeah, we’re pretty much fucked because of AGW, but that wasn’t his focus at all. It was one long lugubrious lament, unleavened by any humor, hope, or solutions. And with a strong Wendell Berry-like (that’s not a compliment, btw) disdain for the modern and the urban, as I recall, that didn’t have much to do with environmentalism and a lot to do with “spiritual poverty.”

      Then he got onto his anti-atheist kick and I decided I had no interest in reading anything else he’d written.

      • BiloSagdiyev

        I only recently learned that he is a preacher of some kind, so it’s just a question of what kind.

    • JL

      I don’t know, but I first heard of him during Occupy when he made a total asshole of himself by calling anarchists a cancer. Instead of talking to actual anarchists for the story he listened to some random anarchist radio program and got his ideas from that and the fact that a few people broke windows at Occupy Oakland. Caused months of flamewars in my Twitter feed.

      You don’t have to agree with people’s ideology, or think that every single one of them is a great person, to think that taking a group of people who were doing a lot of the gruntwork for a movement that you support and being targeted for it, and calling them a cancer, is a real asshole move.

  • lhartmann

    We should be rising up against the common enemy… the Judean People’s Front!

  • Rob in CT

    The bit at the end really pissed me off. One of the reasons why I felt uneasy as I cast my vote for Bernie in the primary was the sense of unreality that I felt was wafting off his campaign. Mostly it was about policy (his healthcare plan, his response when asked for specifics about breaking up banks, etc). But since then, man, it’s really become just as much about process:

    “The Democratic primary process, as Sanders supporters now realize, was rigged from the start,” said Hedges, a Pulitzer-prize winning former New York Times foreign correspondent. “The Democratic National Committee and the Clinton machine used a variety of mechanisms to game the elections including the appointing of superdelgates, the banning of independent voters from numerous primaries, purging voters from voting lists and using millions in dark money and from Super PACs to fund the Clinton campaign. Caucuses, as we saw in Nevada, were shamelessly manipulated on behalf of Clinton. Sanders never had a chance.”

    Superdelegates have existed since the early 80s, no? And that guy [edit: Devine] on the Sanders campaign was part of the effort that produced them, wasn’t he? The “Clinton Machine” didn’t exist yet (well, maybe in Arkansas it did).

    “The banning of independent voters from numerous primaries” is just so fucking disingenuous. Yeah, that’s right, Hillary Clinton & her minions made states use closed primaries. It’s not like closed primaries were a thing before HRC ran for President. Also, too: not one fucking word about caucuses (edit: actually, worse, he whines about one b/c Sanders lost it), or recognition that Bernie and Hillary won some/lost some in open primary states.

    “purging voters from voting lists” is a reference to that business in NY, right? IIRC, there’s no there there either.

    “using millions in dark money and from Super PACs to fund the Clinton campaign” is no doubt true, but that’s the game until such time as we can change the game. She’s been on board with campaign finance reform the whole time…

    “Caucuses, as we saw in Nevada, were shamelessly manipulated on behalf of Clinton.”

    Wait. I thought it was more that the Sanders lost stage 1 of the NV caucus, but Sanders people figured out how to game stage 2, but were then really pissed when it turned out that stage 3 didn’t go their way because not enough of them showed up/got their shit in order. Which… I mean, the whole process sounds ridiculous, but it’s not Hillary Clinton’s fault. Meanwhile, Bernie over-performed in many caucuses.

    He lost because he was short about 3 million votes. If every state held a primary and every primary was open, he probably still loses by 3 million votes, give or take a little bit.

    Some people, including some people who comment here, have been warning for some time about the accusations coming from the Sanders campaign about how the Democratic Party was corrupt/rigged, and how this was potentially corrosive (in addition to being more false than true). I didn’t really buy that at first, but the longer this goes on the more I think they’re right. Get involved, change things for the better – that’s good (and Bernie has said that too). “Everything is rigged ’cause we lost” is not that. It dovetails perfectly with cheap cynicism and laziness, two great enemies of left-wing politics.

    • tomscud

      I have a vague sense (which I can’t be bothered to research) that Hedges was in the too-left-for-Bernie camp back when Sanders seemed to have a (distant but realistic) chance.

    • CP

      “Purging voters from voting lists” is the only thing in there that seemed like it could potentially be a big deal, but I have no idea what it’s about.

      (That and the dark money, but as you say, that’s how it is all over the place right now: Sanders certainly knew that when he got into the game. And also as you say, campaign finance reform is something Clinton’s on board with).

      The whining about caucuses is the part that makes me want to whack the speaker with a rolled up newspaper.

      • There was a serious fuck up in Brooklyn and 125k voters were mistakenly purged (for the primary). There’s no evidence that it was more than a fuck up or that Bernie supporters were asymmetrically removed.



        The purged voters could vote by affidavit.

        Not millions of votes. Not targeted. A problem, but nothing to do with Bernie or Clinton.

        • N__B

          Not just Brooklyn. Mrs__B showed up at our Manhattan polling place to be told she was not on the roll. She voted by affidavit and about three weeks after the primary received a letter saying that they had determined that she should have been on the roll and her vote was included in the total.

          • Heron

            Hasn’t this been a problem in NYC for awhile now? I can’t quote chapter and verse, but I came across an article last week saying that similar screwups popped up in 2012 and 2008.

    • Superdelegates aren’t appointed, anyway. The bulk of them are DNC members, who are the chairs, vice-chairs, and proportionally-allocated members from each state Democratic Committee. These people are ultimately the result of those precinct captain elections that most people ignore. It would not be difficult for a focused left-wing campaign to take over state parties and send a lot of their own superdelegates.

      The rest of them are current and former elected Democratic officials.

      I believe it is possible for a DNC chair to use their contacts, influence, and financial leverage to bias the selection of superdelegates, but I personally suspect it would require a level of competence DWS has not heretofore demonstrated.

    • You are darned tooting (sic) we were right. Every crummy thing anyone said about Bernie is turning out, sadly, to be true. He could have shut this stuff down at any point and still run the exact same, energized, campaign. He probably would have done better to stay upbeat and high minded. But he and his team descended into paranoia, finger pointing, and sheer bitchiness and the end result is that some of his followers (not, hopefully, a significant number) are basically declaring democracy dead because more people voted for Clinton than for Bernie.

      • JL

        Some of his followers were always going to do that. Chris Hedges was already an asshole – see my above comment – and so were most of the loud Bernie-or-bust types. They didn’t morph into assholes because of Sanders’ ranting. And there are always a bunch of sore losers – and sore winners – at the end of a heated contest.

      • los

        Sorry, Hillary. Your 2008 PUMA Die-Hards Aren’t That Into You Anymore. By Adam Nathaniel Peck April 22, 2015
        PUMAs—which, depending on the temperament of the person asked, stood for People United Means Action or, more likely, Party Unity My Ass—were a group of disillusioned, mostly Democratic voters who protested the nomination of then-Senator Barack Obama as the Democratic Party nominee in 2008. In their view, party leadership machinations (remember the “super delegates?”) robbed Clinton of the nomination.

        In the weeks between Obama surpassing the delegate threshold and his formal nomination at the convention, these PUMAs appeared dozens of times on cable news to defend Clinton and to promise mischief at the nominating convention and in the general election. Their anger epitomized a wider unrest that has been mostly forgotten as Obama went on to win two general elections: In the days before the convention, only 47 percent of Clinton supporters said they were certain to vote for Obama.

        In the years since, it seems, some of the PUMAs—once Hillary loyalists to the core—remain unwed to the idea of supporting Clinton in 2016. Others remain so angry at how the party treated her in 2008 they won’t consider voting for a Democrat in 2016—not even for Clinton.

        HA Goodman, ahh um, Cheri Honkala, ahem, um, Will Bower was closest thing the PUMAs had to an official spokesman. After setting up a Facebook group to organize disaffected Clinton supporters, he became a darling of cable news producers and made regular appearances to speak on behalf of disgruntled Hillary voters through the fall. A lifelong Democrat, Bower recounts stints as a young volunteer for the Dukakis campaign and as a protester in 2000 after the Supreme Court’s Bush v. Gore decision, as well as his career as a party activist in Washington. “My Democratic credentials were unassailable,” he says.

        Amy Goldman, an early PUMA currently living in New Jersey, is even more reserved. “If she had not gone into the administration, I would be all-in,” she says, citing her disappointment in Clinton’s performance as Obama’s first Secretary of State. “Would I vote for her? It remains to be seen.”

        Like Bower, Goldman’s main objection was with the primary system itself.
        “For me it was about the process, adhering to the process,” she says. “We were adamant that it was wrong, and we had to get out there and tell people it was wrong.”

      • los

        They were Hillary Clinton’s die-hard loyalists. Here’s where they are now. By Vanessa Williams May 2, 2015
        Lynn Forester de Rothschild was a major donor and member of the Democratic National Committee’s platform committee in 2008. She was so angry over Clinton’s loss that she resigned her party post and very publicly backed McCain. “Hillary Clinton was opposed to me on that, and I understand it,” de Rothschild said in a recent interview.

        “I did it, and I’m glad. I love John McCain. . . . He is a very good friend and a person I really admire,” she said. De Rothschild, chief executive of the holding company E.L. Rothschild, said she sits on the board of the McCain Institute. She didn’t vote for Mitt Romney in 2012, de Rothschild said. Instead, she wrote in Jon Huntsman in the general election.

        But she is all in for Clinton now. “I’m going to do everything I possibly can. I really think it’s vital for our country to get Hillary Clinton elected. . . . I’m feeling fantastic,” de Rothschild said, glee ringing in her voice. “I’m feeling like this is it.”

        According to the 2008 exit poll, Democrats who voted for Clinton in the primaries split 83-16 for Obama-McCain.

        The 2008 protests by Clinton holdouts, some of whom made the rounds on cable TV news shows criticizing the party and Obama, drew backlash from some Democratic activists. The PUMAs were ridiculed as sore losers. The behavior on the part of some — like Clinton supporter Harriet Christian, whose rant calling Obama “an inadequate black male” went viral on YouTube — even sparked accusations of racial bias.

        Diane Mantouvalos, another ardent Clinton backer in 2008, acknowledged that the rhetoric of some protesters was “a little toxic.” She said her motivation to keep fighting “wasn’t a dislike for Obama. . . . We just wanted to fight for her.”

        When Clinton conceded the election to Obama in June 2008, Mantouvalos launched a now-defunct Web site called Just Say No Deal that became a virtual gathering place for the many groups who believed that their candidate had been robbed of the nomination.

        Mantouvalos, a public relations consultant who lives in Miami, was especially upset with a ruling by the Democratic National Committee that reduced the number of Florida delegates that went to Clinton. She and other activists also were incredulous at the level of misogyny in the news media.

        “We were kind of fighting for a bunch of things,” said Mantouvalos, who said she is an independent who usually votes Democratic.

        Kyle Raccio was a part of the resistance, believing Clinton to have been “robbed of the nomination” by the Democratic Party.

        A year after that bitter primary, Raccio said he felt “a level of hurt and distrust with the Democrats.”

        I started watching Fox News and looking at more conservative things and had a shift in views from the center to the right,” Raccio said.

        These days he’s a tea party activist, and runs with the “Stop Hillary” crowd.

        He also attributed his change of heart to his getting older. “I’m almost 30,” he said.

      • los

        Clinton Supporters Protest During Convention – YouTube

        Hillary Clinton: .. honored… proud… proud… {motherpie and applehood #8492a} proud supporter of Barack Obama
        Floor audience: (mostly cheers)
        Reporter: but not all… buying into party unity.

        Founder Elizabeth Feicher: “well first of all they
        need to do a traditional roll call vote as they’ve done always, and i’ll have a lot of questions about why they don’t if they don’t. that’ll be a little bizarre.”

        Reporter: recent polling indicatedthat 42% of Hillary delegates wanted to vote for her instead of Obama at the convention.
        Washington state delegate Cynthia Schwartz says party unity is solely the responsibulty of Obama.
        Woman: “It’s not Hillary’s job to deliver her supporters to Senator Obama. If he’s going to be the leader of our party, it’s Senator Obama’s job to earn the votes of the Hillary supporters.”

        Reporter: Some marchers were leaning toward not supporting Obama at all. Recent polls suggest as many as 28% of Hillary’s might not vote for the party’s candidate.
        Chris Moe from boulder colorado is considering voting for Senator John McCain
        Woman: “she should have got the vice-presidency, or at least been vetted. I’m not exactly sure why Obama wouldn’t go through the motions at least to – ah – put on a face of vetting her, especially after saying that she was on – be on anyone’s short list.”

        Reporter: There were some voices of unity in the crowd… an Obama delegate from Austin Texas, Alice London, said she attended to honor Hillary’s accomplishments :
        Woman: “…Hillary… think was historic … women everywhere… party will recognize the value in that i think we’re the better off for it.”

        (Jess(?) Whiteford(?) voanews, Denver Colorado)

      • los

        Clinton Supporters Protest Against Obama – YouTube
        Middle aged woman: “(Right?) now our vote is not counted. We’re not even part of the nonsense.”
        Interviewer: (a question …)
        Woman: “I got a feeling we’re going to continue on this fight. Because there’s a lot of people that feel very strongly about the situation. We had rallies locally. And it’s not going to stop here.”
        Interviewer: “You’re going to push (unintelligible) the convention.”
        Woman: “Yes. Absolutely it’s not going to stop here. I’ve already (unintelligible verb? “heard”?) we’re not stopping here (cut off).”

        Middle aged woman. “(recording is mostly not intelligible enough to attempt transcribing.) … I flew in from California… … ”

        30’s? man: “(lost sentence beginning) you don’t respect voter rights and count every vote, you’re not the Democratic Party… (He has never voted Republican since 1988.) Right now it is about the DNC; it is about the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party cannot stand for voter rights and civil rights if it doesn’t count every (cut off)”

        A woman much older than a “millennial” (Harriet Christian per other link):
        “The Democrats are throwing the election away – for what? An inadequate black male – who would not have been running had it not been a white woman that was running for president. And I’m not going to shut my mouth anymore. I can be called white but you can’t be called black. That’s not my America. And god damn the Democrats.”
        (Don’t boo. Don’t damn. Don’t fart. Maybe Hillary Clinton can ruin as a White Woman Independent!!?)

      • los
    • EliHawk

      “using millions in dark money and from Super PACs to fund the Clinton campaign” is no doubt true,

      Actually, for the purpose of the primary, it’s also bullshit. HRC’s SuperPAC (Formerly Obama 2012’s SuperPAC) raised a ton of money, and saved it all to do what it’s doing now, which is hit the GOP nominee all over the place. Sanders whined all primary long about not having a superPAC, but for the purposes of actually campaigning against the Vermont Snowflake, he was untouched.

      • Rob in CT

        So wrong on all counts then. I guess it’s an ethos…

      • JustRuss

        AFAIK, Bernie still hasn’t released his tax returns. For his supporters to be whining about Clinton’s dark money is…special.

        • Kathleen

          I thought he got money from Karl Rove’s PAC, along with other conservative PAC’s.

          • EliHawk

            He didn’t, but they did make anti-Clinton Independent Expenditures (negative ads and the like) that could have had the effect of helping him. And he did have National Nurses United’s SuperPAC spending $4.6 million on his behalf.

    • los

      “Everything is rigged ’cause we lost”
      Actually, whatever it would be, it would be, “We lost ’cause everything is rigged”

    • Heron

      It’s def having an impact on younger voters, though how big I couldn’t say since small sample size. I’ve been seeing this paranoid stuff all over social media for weeks now, and no surprise whoever’s behind that Guccifer 2.0 “leak” is playing into it. I wouldn’t say it’s Nader levels by any means, but there’s more than a few disenchanted young adults talking about “sitting this one out” or voting Stein, and all because Bernie’s campaign decided they’d go all InfoWars in the last few months trying to make a statement with their California numbers(one hopes at least; I’d hate to think he genuinely aimed at a contested convention).

      Thankfully, Trump’s appeals to racism and nativism, and ease with white nationalism, has the more numerous level-headed types ready to vote against him, even if Hillary isn’t their dream candidate.

  • Hells Littlest Angel

    Nice try, but I’m pretty confident that covert Clinton operatives will infiltrate the supper and spike the food with Beano. That’s how ruthless she is.

    • ColBatGuano

      She’s more cunning than even that. This is a false flag operation designed to make the die hards look bad.

  • so-in-so

    Can we now say Bernie Dead Enders are all wind?

    • tsam

      And stinky.

  • Matty

    This is such a stupid idea that not even the dead-endiest Berners on Facebook have shared it, to my (slight) surprise.

  • Someone who is really concerned about the poor would feed them the beans at a real tent farm and then have them rally outside Wells Fargo, instead of feeding their own bellies first in a simulated ‘Clintonville.’

    Just sayin’

    • so-in-so

      LARPing activism.

    • los

      Either before or after, deliberately giving the homeless gas is cruel charity. (Reductio ad NRA, BTW)

    • Darkrose

      The same is true for throwing dollar bills at Clinton’s car versus spending the money on anti-poverty work.

  • howard

    in the history repeats, the second time as farce department, we are now seeing the farcical version of the yippies, which is an almost inconceivable concept for us oldtimers who thought the yippies were the ultimate in farcical in the first place.

    • ASV

      “…second as farts.”

  • keta

    Sanders voters are showing concern,
    By forcing out air from their sterns.
    But beware a false start,
    It could lead to a shart,
    And add waste to feeling the Bern.

  • Alex.S

    That convention was weird to follow on Twitter. My favorite was – “The Nation’s John Nichols calls anti-LGBT hate “as much a part of the political threat as neoliberalism.””

    My assumption is that the most twitter-worthy things would be the convention-goers attacking the Democratic party or Hillary Clinton, with attacks on conservatives/Republicans/Trump being boring. But still… there was a lot of time and energy devoted to attacking the Democratic party.

    Meanwhile, they also shut out the Green Party because they didn’t want to give any appearances to spoiling the vote. Jill Stein tried to get a speaking role but was denied, the Green Party booth was ignored, etc.

  • N__B

    How can I be the first person to link to BEANS?

  • Warren Terra

    So, their plan is to confront Clinton and fart in her general direction?

    They seem varry nice, I say in my most exaggerated stereotyped French accent.

  • David W.

    Everyone knows that TRUMP BEANZ are the best beans, just look for the bright gold cans! Donald Trump eats them everyday himself, and boy, don’t we know it.

    • Warren Terra

      You know what they say, eating beans makes you trump.

    • los

      Hillary beans don’t amount to a Hill o beans. Trump beans are a Tower of beans.

  • Gwen

    Blazing Sanders!

    • JustRuss

      Where have you gone Slim Pickens?
      A nation turns its watering eyes to you.

  • efgoldman

    Anybody that serves that shit in the picture instead of real baked beans is a Republiklown plant.

    • Gwen

      I visited the Bush’s baked bean plant near Maryville, Tennessee a couple years ago. Truly a marvel of republiklown food processing technology.

  • Malaclypse

    I don’t know why they think this could possibly be effective without a single giant puppet.

    • calling all toasters

      They’ll inflate giant balloons instead.

  • Origami Isopod

    I kind of wonder what you’d get if you plotted a Venn diagram between dead-enders attending this …. event and/or sharing it on Facebook, and anti-vaxxers/anti-fluoride/anti-all-GMOs/pro-homeopathy true believers.

    • junker

      I like to think the anti-fluoruide people are like “whoa whoa whoa don’t lump us in the the Sanders dead enders!”

    • Dr. Ronnie James, DO

      Wouldn’t be the first time this type of … event has precipitated a movement.

  • Kathleen

    I’m confused. I thought Obama – not Clinton – was President in September of 2008 when the economy tanked. So they should have Obamavilles, right? Right?

    • Warren Terra

      I assume you’re deliberately putting George W Bush down the memory hole?

      • los

        especially since the real estate crash began by at least spring 2006 (That’s when I first saw it beginning)

      • los

        January 20th, 2009, Barack H. Obama was sworn in as the 44th President of the United States of America
        but Trump wasn’t Preident (of the united States) in 2008.
        maybe that’s part of the joke?

  • JonH

    Why is Honkala, a Green, not spending her time trying to get a Green elected?

  • JL

    Chris Hedges and Cheri Honkala, a winning combination!

    I encountered Honkala at the RNC protests in 2012. I was not impressed. She’s very much into making things, including economic justice marches of hundreds of people who are mostly not affiliated with the Green Party, all about her (and in that case, her campaign). The argument at the front over her trying to take over the march and make it a Green Party march literally stopped the march in the middle of the street. I tried to be charitable about it – “Anyone running for a major national office probably has a really big ego” – but you know, she has a really big ego.

    Also, if I remember correctly, she was one of the organizers of the poor people’s protest camp at the same RNC protest. Which didn’t bother to, for example, procure cheap dry socks for the homeless people living in the camp after a tropical storm flooded it. I know this because I was with one of the groups of street medics that went by the camp and we ended up just buying socks for a bunch of people because they were showing early signs of things like trenchfoot. So we can see how great she is at logistics and planning.

    See my above comment about Hedges. I know plenty of people here don’t much care for anarchism ideologically, and fine, I don’t think it’s exactly the most realistic ideology either, but he publicly called hundreds of activists who were an important part of a movement that he ostensibly supported, including street medics, legal observers, people who were washing the dishes, people who were organizing marches, a cancer. Something that he decided without actually talking to any of them about what they believed or what kind of work they were doing. Alienating a large portion of the people doing the actual work in the movement you support, based on a couple of broken windows and your listening to some random radio show for a few weeks for “research,” definitely seems like good movement-building!

    So yeah, if those two are collaborating on something that is probably a good sign that I want to stay away from it.

    • Hogan

      I spent some years discovering that Cheri is pretty much about Cheri. Like Trump, in a far far left kind of way.

  • BartletForGallifrey

    …pursued by a bear.

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