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More on Rand Paul’s Entirely Random and Coincidental Association With Racists

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Jack Hunter has finally resigned from the office of America’s foremost champion of civil liberties. Paul, of course, didn’t immediately fire him, because who can blame Hunter for his youthful indiscretions? Like this, from 2009, when Hunter was a mere pip of 35. You can see, given Hunter’s evident commitment to racial egalitarianism and the high quality of his analysis, why Paul saw him as such a valuable asset in the spin room:

In declaring secession illegal, and the U.S. a consolidated state, Lincoln enacted the first income tax and the first draft, and supported internal improvements and nationalizing banks. Such centralizing, socialistic, and militaristic restructuring of America was certainly more comparable to the fascism that defined Hitler’s Germany than the agrarian-based economies and loose-knit state militias that defined the Confederate States of America.

Look, four political leaders in all of world history have favored an income tax and internal improvements: Abraham Lincoln, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, and Barack HUSSEIN Obama. You do the math!

And, of course, let us not forget the real reason for southern secession, and why it occurred not after the election of Abraham Lincoln but after the egregious federal overreaching of the Fugitive Slave Act:

Dissuading the South from seceding by promising to protect slavery didn’t work, because the issue was secondary to the primary issue of constitutional government and states’ rights. Southerners clung to the Founding Fathers’ vision of a decentralized republic in which central planning, federal dictates, and permanent standing armies would have been impossible because the Constitution did not allow for a national government powerful enough to implement such measures.

Yes, the Confederates never would have tolerated a constitution that issued “federal dictates” on a matter like slavery:

4) No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.

You can understand why Paul was reluctant to let co-authoring talent like this go. Fortunately, there will presumably be room for him as a clerk for John Roberts.

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  • Scott P.

    Does he not know that the Confederacy instituted a draft a full year before the US government did?

  • c u n d gulag

    Needless to say, I’m sure that this Secesh Snagglepuss exited ‘stage right.’

    Very far right.

    • David Hunt

      Unfortunately not pursued by a bear.

  • JMP

    “Southerners clung to the Founding Fathers’ vision of a decentralized republic in which central planning, federal dictates, and permanent standing armies would have been impossible”

    Funny that the southerners clung to that vision while the founding fathers themselves did not, which is why they scrapped the Articles of Confederation and replaced them with the Consitution.

    • c u n d gulag

      Yes, but they’re “Origianists,” and the “Articles” were more original than the Constitution.

      • rea

        Well, the Articles of Confederation explicitly deal with secession by repeated references to “perpetual union”

        http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?doc=3&page=transcript

        This was in fact one of Lincoln’s arguments against the legality of secession–that the Aticles of Confedration were the founding document of the United States, predating the Cosntitution, and specified perpetual union.

        • oldster

          Right, Lincoln’s second premise being that the Constitution promises a “more perfect” union. From which he reasonably inferred that if the less perfect version was already perpetual, it was not likely that the more perfect version would merely be a temp job.

          It’s amazing how many of the horrible arguments that neo-Confederates trot out were already answered in the 1st Inaugural.

      • UserGoogol

        In my experience, a lot of this sort of libertarian likes to take the approach downplaying constitutional law altogether and focusing on (their own peculiar interpretation of) natural law and pre-1776 English common law. I suppose some of that might be leaking into the conservatives in the Supreme Court with all this vague nonsense about state sovereignty, but it’s a very different style.

        • Hogan

          Like when Wales seceded from England.

        • drkrick

          Being unwritten, that kind of thing is harder to refute by direct quotation when they pull their “principles” out of thin air. You can see how they would find that attractive.

        • So in their eyes the American Revolution was nothing more than a bit of argy-bargy over taxes.

          I will not be surprised if the minute a Republican gets back in the White House, NeoCon in the key of “What’s so bad about a monarchy, really?”

    • Timb

      Is that all standing armies, except the one that would invade and conquer Cuba?

  • JMP

    “the issue [slavery] was secondary to the primary issue of constitutional government and states’ rights.”

    Similarly, the issue of government functioning as a democratic republic versus an empire was secondary to the primary issue of the Star Wars, which were primarily fought over trade disputes.

  • jon

    Please tell me more about Abraham Lincoln’s socialist paradise.

    • John Casey

      Well, he gave out land to whoever would live on the land and work it. A kind of land reform. You know who else did land reform? Mao!

      JC

      • JMP

        Both Lincoln and Obama spent tax money on public works projects – just like Caligula! Wake up, sheeple!

    • joe from Lowell

      Let me tell you something about a little thing called the Transcontinental Railroad.

      You know how those lefties love public transit.

      • Warren Terra

        Plus, (some of) the money went to build a college campus, suitable for liberal indoctrination.

      • jon

        The railroad was built and operated by private corporations, for their own profit.. The government compensated them for the construction effort by awarding them a checkerboard of land grants near the route. I don’t see that as public transit, nor especially socialist.

        Relatedly, national parks were established, in large part, to help drum up tourism ridership for the railroads.

        • Warren Terra

          Relatedly, national parks were established, in large part, to help drum up tourism ridership for the railroads.

          Please to substantiate. This doesn’t sound remotely related to anything I’ve read on the subject (most notably/recently Egan’s book The Big Burn).

  • Tiny Hermaphrodite, Esq.

    But the socialist (it is the National Socialist German Workers Party, libtards) Hitler admired Lincoln and despised the South. Or it was the other way around, can’t really remember.
    Anyway, what matters is that the Volksgerichtshof wasn’t Originalist enough.

    • Jonas

      Very true. Judicial activism caused the holocaust. Even Scalia says so.

      • L.M.

        If only the German judiciary had deferred more to the political branches.

  • Tiny Hermaphrodite, Esq.

    test

  • fka AWS

    I think the headline reads better as “Moron Rand Paul’s Entirely Random and Coincidental Association With Racists

    • Mr. Ed

      Why do all these racist keep getting jobs working for me?

      • Barry Freed

        Oops, that was me.

        • It was funnier coming from Mr. Ed.

          • Barry Freed

            Isn’t everything though?

      • Barry Freed

        and duh, that’s “racists” plural, along the line of that great Onion story of course.

  • Tiny Hermaphrodite, Esq

    But Hitler admired Lincoln and despised the South. Or the other way around, I can’t really remember.

    • commie atheist

      There’s an echo in here.

  • rea

    Well, states’ rights were a huge issue in the lead up to the war, with the South insisting on federal legislation requiring return of fugitive slaves, and the North saying it was a matter for the states. Similarly, the South argued that the 5th amendment protected their property rights in slaves wherever they were taken (the poor South Carolina planters unable to summer in the Hamptons with their slaves!), while the North thought slavery was a matter for the states. It was over the issue of using federal power to support expansion of slavery into new territories that the South eventually tried to leave. So, yeah, in a sense, the war was about states’ rights, but as usual, the right has all he issues backwrds.

    • Scott Lemieux

      Let’s not forget the call for a federal slave code that split the Democratic Party…

    • And this continued right up to the very end; in December 1860, when Congress sought a compromise that would prevent secession, Senator Jefferson Davis proposed a “compromise” amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing slaveowners the right to take their “property” anywhere in the United States they liked, for as long as they liked. In short, he wanted to strip free states of their power to prohibit slavery. So much for “states rights”!

  • Mike Schilling

    Hunter isn’t very good at this. I mean, “Internal improvements” sounds like good things, like they make stuff better than it was before. A real wingnut would call them something like “internazi impravdaments”, so you’d know only nazi/commie/libtards want them.

    • commie atheist

      “Pork-laden boondoggles.” “Bridges to Nowhere.” “Crony Capitalism.” One of those should work.

      • Sarah Palin

        “Bridges to Nowhere.”

        Shut up.

        • Warren Terra

          No, no, Sarah Palin was proud of her leadership against The Bridge To Nowhere. It was a key feature of her stump speech in 2008.

          After she was for it, of course. And, also, too, before she was upset about the use of the term “Nowhere” again.

          • zombie rotten mcdonald

            well, at least she was consistent.

      • “Pork-laden boondoggles.”

        Now I’m hungry.

        • efgoldman

          Them boondoggles go really good with spicy maple baked beans. Yum.

  • DrDick

    Have to say that this strikes me as bog standard libertarian historical analysis.

    • Mike Schilling

      As in a festering swamp?

    • Timb

      Shhh, don’t tell Randy Barnett and the echo chamber over at Volokh, where they have been arguing for weeks that “libertarianism” and neo-Confederate don’t have to go hand-in-hand. Won’t someone rid them of this troubling 25-30 percent of their followers

      • mds

        Won’t someone rid them of this troubling 25-30 percent of their followers

        Your figure is unfair. I’d go with “majority.”

        • timb

          I was trying to be fair to them

  • Hogan

    Those who do not remember history are eager to repeat it.

    • Reconstruction

      Well, if they insist

  • David

    Look, four political leaders in all of world history have favored an income tax and internal improvements: Abraham Lincoln, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, and Barack HUSSEIN Obama. You do the math!

    Pol Pot? Mao?

    • Hogan

      No no, they were agrarianists. JUST LIKE THE CSA.

      • oldster

        Sure, lots of us hippies belong to CSA’s. You get fresh fruits and veggies all summer long from small local farms, at a discount. It’s a way to eat local, and support local businesses, too.

        “CSA” does stand for Community Supported Agriculture, doesn’t it?

        • anthrofred

          Communist supported, you mean.

    • Malaclypse

      They all stole that idea from History’s Greatest Monster, Woodrow Wilson.

      Admitedly, there was a certain subtlety to Lincoln’s idea theft, what with him being earlier and all, but Jonah’s book had footnotes and everything.

      • Jonah could learn something form Palin. She was smart enough to write her notes on her hand.

        • Timb

          Jonah’s entire book could fit on one of his haunches

  • Dr. E. Libertarian Ever Ph.D. (Harvard, Kennedy School of Government))

    FORT SUMTER WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

    • Scott P.

      Major Anderson was a former slave-owner from Kentucky. Makes you think, huh?

  • Is there anything, anything at all, that the WingNut won’t compare to Hitler?

    No.

    Now that he is gone has been martyred on the fiery cross of Liberal persecution, I regret the fact no one will ever get to ask him if the GOP is the party of Hitler.

    Like this, from 2009, when Hunter was a mere pip[squeak?] of 35.

    A little noted aspect of Homo Conservativus is the rate at which the males mature in relation to every other human being. So while females and all minorities may be treated adults at the age of 12 or so, it is unfair to expect the conservative male to drop his carefree boyish outlook and take up the responsibilities of an adult until he dies of old age.

    • Is there anything, anything at all, that the WingNut won’t compare to Hitler?

      Fetuses.

      Fetii.

      Fetuses.

    • Timb

      Remember when good ol’ Henry Hyde was claiming that re: an affair he ad in his lower 40’s? Just a youthful indiscretion

      • Shakezula

        Could he have been describing the lady?

    • mds

      Is there anything, anything at all, that the WingNut won’t compare to Hitler?

      Their own fascist tendencies?

  • Anonymous

    …who can blame Hunter for his youthful indiscretions?

    • Sarah Palin

      Paid for by Obama Haters for Gay Rights.

  • Bitter Scribe

    I can already hear Paul and his supporters whining when he runs for president and someone brings this up.

  • Cheap Wino

    Wait. Only 62 replies and no Paulistas here to assure us that Paul family racism is a lie? That somebody else wrote those things Hunter said? What has this world come to? And is it wrong that I kind of miss the days when a post like this would have resulted in 364 comments and Malaclypse making me laugh 8 times?

    I know that Ron is the true cult leader but can’t there be some kind of hereditary succession thing going on with that too? It is quite in vogue at the moment.

    • Paul family racism is a lie. That somebody else wrote those things Hunter said. Hoo-ha cherry soda.

      Just trying to help ;)

    • Paulistas

      Paul-bearers.

  • James M. Martin

    His name is not Rand Paul, it is Ayn Rand Paul. Show me the birth certificate! If Taitz can do it to Obama I can do it with Ayn.

  • nope

    So I actually know Jack Hunter and I have to say that it has been weird to read about him on the tubes. On sites I lurk on. Very weird indeed.

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