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The Perils of Plutocratic Narcissism


I admit I’ve been holding off on this because I made the same mistake as the functionalists who assume that if things get bad enough the U.S. will just have to adopt single-payer. Running the NYC Marathon on Sunday seemed so obviously stupid I couldn’t believe it would actually happen, that Bloomberg would backtrack just like he backtracked on (the comparatively minor matter of) playing a game at the Barclay’s Center with no mass transit access.

But it seems like this might actually happen, seriously, what the hell is Bloomberg doing?

If a stupid media tent for an even stupider race getting electricity before the hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers who currently are without power seems insulting, ridiculous, and flat-out idiotic, that’s because it is.

As it stands, nearly 600,000 New Yorkers are without power. Many of those people aren’t expected to have power restored for up to 10 days. But the sporting press for a stupid foot-race has all the juice they need — and then some.

The New York Post reported this morning that the Marathon’s media tent is getting fueled by “three diesel-powered generators” that “crank out 800 kilowatts — enough to power 400 homes in ravaged areas like Staten Island, the Rockaways and downtown Manhattan.”

In addition to the three generators pumping electricity into the tent, there is a backup generator on standby — just in case any of the three fail.

I’m not arguing that the marathon shoul be cancelled out of respect or whatever. Live can’t stop in the face of every natural disaster or nothing could ever happen. What I am arguing is that this race will consume resources — police officers, generators, hotel rooms — that are desperately needed for things other than a foot race that a trivial number of people care about. And yes, some conservatives are opportunistically attacking Mayor Rich because of his belated endorsement* of Obama…but that doesn’t make them wrong.

*MacGillis: “Obama gets The Economist AND Mike Bloomberg in the same day? How many Electoral College votes does the Acela quiet car carry?”

Update: [PC] The marathon has been postponed to a later date.  [SL] Story here.   Earlier would have been better, but it this case late is indeed better than never.

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  • I agree with you and the Post — though I question whether the Post would be quite so worked up about this if Bloomberg had endorsed Romney.

    • Scott Lemieux

      As I say, I don’t think there’s any question about it. But doesn’t make them less right.

    • david mizner

      How long till they say the move is to please Obama’s relatives — the Kenyans?

  • As it stands, nearly 600,000 New Yorkers are without power. Many of those people aren’t expected to have power restored for up to 10 days.

    Um, no. Most of them will have power restored tomorrow. And generators wouldn’t help the ones who still won’t.

    • ploeg

      The standard PS&G line is “seven to ten days,” which translates roughly to “leave us alone ’cause we’re going as fast as we can.” And I have to admit that they are fixing the lines as soon as the trees are cleared.

      • Anonymous

        Actually most of that 600k will get power back tonight. I’m not so sure the marathon is a bad idea; it will bring in hundreds of millions of dollars to hotels, restaurants, and stores that have just been through a hellish week. The optics on Staten Island look horrible and I think Bloomberg needs to do more to fix that. (Though he is encouraging every runner to donate $26.20 per mile–or $681 total to relief funds.) I know it looks bad to have a sporting event so close to the most obvious devastation, but those runners are bringing a lot of tip money to hospitality and food service workers who have had a pretty terrible week too.

        • shah8

          The services taken up by the marathon are more valuable than cash most people will ever see from holding this marathon.

          • ploeg

            The requirements for said services are dropping sharply. If power is restored, you don’t need a generator, and you don’t need cops crawling all over the place.

        • Anonymous

          The marathon will bring that money into town whether it is held tomorrow or in five months, but in five months, those local businesses will have their staffs and facilities able to handle it.

      • dick gregory

        I have to admit that they are fixing the lines as soon as the trees are cleared.

        If the cables were buried in urban areas trees couldn’t fall on them. If more US electricians got more than basic installation training there would be a greater pool of workers to turn around mass outages. Other precautions might mean fewer electricity substations get blown out. That’s before you get on to the ageing grid, and other cowboy features of an obsessively profit-oriented business.

        • Njorl

          How are you going to do all that with this severe labor shortage we have now? And you’ll need to borrow money to pay for all that. That can get expensive what with interest rates being almost as high as inflation.

      • El Guapo

        Word. That’s like the Biblical “40 days” which was figuratively, we don’t know how long it was, but it was a loooong time.

    • Scott Lemieux

      Most of them will have power restored tomorrow.

      [cites omitted.]

      And generators wouldn’t help the ones who still won’t.

      Why not? If it wouldn’t be equitable to use them for residences, what about supermarkets? Gas stations?

      • ploeg

        As far as I can tell, most supermarkets already have emergency power to guard against perishables spoiling during a run-of-the-mill power outage. And if you didn’t have your own generator lined up and running since Monday, a generator isn’t going to help you now. And though the lines are annoying, there seems to be a sufficient number of gas stations to meet current demand around here. I admittedly don’t know the situation in NYC but it doesn’t seem that they would need more open gas stations than they do around here.

      • daveNYC

        The main problem with the electricity is that all the lines are down. I’m not sure how you would plug these generators into the local grid, even if you were able to find a section of grid that was intact enough to feed a bunch of homes. Not to mention some stupidly large number of other technical issues I probably know nothing about.

        If we can pull this off without pulling resources from the recovery efforts, I say go for it.

      • Richard

        The gas stations are down because of lack of gas. The ports are open now and gas is being delivered. Manhattan will have power back by tomorrow if not tonight. A few generators for a few stores wont change the situation in Staten Island. I say let them run.

      • ploeg
    • Lindsay Beyerstein

      Most of those 600,000 people will get their power back on, but what about those in the hardest-hit areas, like Red Hook, the Rockaways, and parts of Staten Island? Last night, NBC News was out talking to Staten Islanders who were terrified that their homes would be plundered because they didn’t have the plywood to board them up. They said they were grateful for the extra police patrols in their neighborhood. If even one officer is diverted from that job to the NYC Marathon, that’s wrong.

      As of today, the Red Hook Houses–one of the largest public housing projects in NYC–was still without water or power. These citizens of New York have first dibs on the limited resources of first responders, not the marathoners.

      The race can be rescheduled. The tourist dollars will come in later.

      • Scott Lemieux

        Right. I think the Voice writer is being too parochial here. Even if we assume for the sake of argument that everyone in NYC will have power back by Sunday, there are certainly many places in the broader metro area that won;’t.

        And Lindsay is also right that the tourist money is a red herring, since if the race is rescheduled, it will come back anyway.

        • ploeg

          I’m amenable to the argument that there are things more important than tourist money, but the tourists in question have arranged their schedules and training around this specific weekend. If the marathon is canceled, they come back next year in the best case.

          • Scott Lemieux

            Um, there’s not a fixed number of people who want to run in the NYC marathon. Trust me, they’ll find enough people to fill the slots if they hold it later.

            • ploeg

              As the news reports say, they will try to have an alternative event, but even if they do, it won’t be a marathon. Undoubtedly they’ll try a marathon again, but it will be same time next year.

  • ploeg

    Speaking as somebody who is currently writing this in a supermarket in central New Jersey (since there’s no juice at home), I would have to trust Bloomberg’s judgment on this one. Most of the traffic lights around here are working now, much of the foliage that has been blocking the roads has been removed (so no more need for the cops to guard them), and I anticipate getting power restored later today (but probably not cable). Life must go on indeed.

  • laura

    I have no opinion about holding the marathon, but I slightly prefered Bloomberg’s Obama endorsement to the one from The Economist. And in the same day! It was heart warming to see the great arbitrators of the authoritarian center right and libertarian center right come together and condescend to support the sane option once again.

    • david mizner

      It was a tough call for the Economist considering that he’s “left-leaning,” doesn’t understand capitalism (unlike Bill Clinton), and, most shocking of all:

      “of the 104 rounds of golf the president has played in office, only one was with a Republican congressman.”

      • laura

        Most Republican congressmen wouldn’t dare play golf with the president: a sure fire way to get a primary challenge.

        • timb

          Ask Governor Christie, who is now dead to Rush and friends because he was seen with Obama.

          For conservatives, everything is political. These people are more political than Communists c. 1925, constantly denouncing each other for being counter-revolutionaries.

          The only two differences between the purges of then and now is #1) conservatives are shooting apostates yet and #2) an entire section of the political press hasn’t seemed to notice the weirdness, parochial arguments, and pathological suspicion of apostasy.

  • Lindsay Beyerstein

    The race should not go on. It should have been cancelled on Monday or Tuesday.

    It’s ridiculous to have a marathon when the city needs every first responder and every drop of gasoline to provide for people in need.

    Even so, it’s getting a bit late to cancel if the race is on Sunday and people are coming from all over the world.

    If I were Bloomberg, I’d still say fuck it, we can’t spare the resources. Sorry these folks are going to be put out, but life and limb of New Yorkers trumps any sporting event. But even if he does the right thing, it’s a black mark on his record that he let it hang in the air for so long.

    • Scott Lemieux

      Agreed on this too. Even if he does cancel it now, it unnecessarily put too many people out.

    • thusbloggedanderson

      Yah, a postponement might’ve been wise, but too late now.

    • Ed

      The race should not go on. It should have been cancelled on Monday or Tuesday.

      It’s ridiculous to have a marathon when the city needs every first responder and every drop of gasoline to provide for people in need.

      Indeed. It should have been canceled promptly and I hope the heat gets hot enough to cancel it anyway. The runners will just have to make the best of it, and if they’re inconvenienced there’s plenty around to remind them it could be a lot worse.

    • Uncle Kvetch

      It should have been cancelled on Monday or Tuesday.

      I was just discussing this with my better half: didn’t this cross anyone’s mind earlier in the week? It boggles the mind.

  • scott

    Agreed. There is such a thing as how things look, and holding a pricey, high-resources event when a lot of people are suffering is wrong and disrespectful to them. I know people like Bloomberg are disconnected from that and live and die by the 24-hour news cycle, but you would hope he had ordinary humans on the payroll to explain things like that to him.

    • Joshua

      He’s not just disconnected, but in NY, the marathon has a lot of prestige and he’s undoubtedly very used to working with those guys.

  • david mizner

    This could get ugly assuming that the route, as is the custom, goes through all boroughs, including Staten Island.

    • ploeg

      The marathon starts on the Verrazano Bridge, so they’re only in Staten Island for a very short time.

      • david mizner

        Ah, okay. Thanks. I’ve usually watched it from Brooklyn but never knew the route.

  • The Ghost of John Brown

    “I’m not arguing that the marathon shoul[d] be cancelled out of respect or whatever.”

    Why the hell not? Why not show some respect to that many residents are traumatized dealing with loss of home, businesses and life, and the fact that all five bouroughs have massive cleanup and yet to repair to do. It’s like holding a massive party in your face and twirling and dancing because you can, meanwhile doing it through all five boroughs. Why? To spare the feelings of professional runners and megarich sponsors who presumably were not in harm’s way and were/are traveling in. What the hell is this about really? Any runner who lives on the eastern seaboard know that this is a massive lifechanging storm and that stupid race can be run anytime over the next twelve months. Recovering from the storm takes precedent.

    • Richard

      Its about showing that the city hasn’t died. Same reason Broadway shows reopened on Wednesday and Thursday. Should they have stayed closed because of “respect”? And about bringing money into the city and showing the world that travellers are welcome.

      • Jon H

        I suppose a marathon looks a little different, as it’s a temporary thing anyway, and it causes some disruption all along the path, blocking roads, requiring police to be around for roadblocks, etc.

        By contrast, a broadway show is already set up in its theater, and much of the audience may already be in the city. It’s not special event requiring special arrangements. The marathon is.

        • Richard

          Yeah, a marathon is different from a Broadway show but if the criteria is “showing respect”, its not so different. I think NYC should try to get back to things as normal as soon as it can and if the Marathon can be held on Sunday without undue problems, I think it should go on. If what the city should be doing is “showing respect”, then it should stay shut down for another week.

    • Jon H

      ” It’s like holding a massive party in your face ”

      I for one try to avoid parties where you can end up with bleeding nipples or shit running down your legs.

      But I guess some people go for that.

  • Jon H

    There are going to be thousands of endogenous opiate junkies descending on NY, you don’t want to get in between them and their fix.

    More seriously, there’s about 1500 power company workers who’ve come in to Connecticut from other states, Canada, and Mexico. As Connecticut lines get sorted out, some will probably move to New York and New Jersey to help there if needed, assuming the NY/NJ power companies are willing to pay them.

  • I think running the race will bring attention and the attention will bring donations to help people. Life doesn’t stop because of disasters, and many people have made plans well in advance to be there for the race. The optics might look bad but this is an important annual event in NYC and difficult at best to reschedule. The positives outweigh the negatives, and those positives include help from the racing community. That’s a lot of people who otherwise might not donate or notice Staten Island at all.

  • Joe

    I live in the Bronx and had two days w/o power though overall it wasn’t affected much (two blocks away, e.g., there was power). And, I really can understand the outrage here. But, personally, it doesn’t outrage me and am willing to agree with the people above who say let it go on. Things won’t be noticeably better w/o it for those suffering. It will probably be a largely symbolic move. Having it will show life goes on, might raise a bit of money and provide entertainment for some others including those with little means to do much else.

  • tjkopena

    One point that should be corrected is that the race isn’t something “a trivial number of people care about.” Last year just short of 47,000 runners started the race. Multiply by a few spectators per runner, and you’re talking about a good number of people immediately invested in the race.

    It’s also not something that can be just rescheduled for any time. At the most basic, the marathon is indeed a huge event with a big footprint. New York’s a busy place with lots of things going on, you can’t just throw these kinds of events around anywhere on the calendar. Similarly, many of those 47,000 people times however many spectators will be travelling from far and wide. Beyond losing out on reservations, etc., if this weekend is scrubbed, they’re not going to be able to just pick up and do it some other random weekend next year.

    Beyond all that, almost all of those 47,000 people will have been training and dreaming about this race all year. Setting aside the pros and hopefuls with career riding on it, think about all the people doing their first marathon. All the countless people who would have never previously thought they would be able to run a marathon. All the people who’ve shaped up their lives and found some discipline just to make this one goal happen. All the people super excited about their big—maybe their first—trip to New York. Though intangible, that’s an awful lot to just throw away if holding the race is at all feasible.

    If America and New York are as awesome as our idealistic collective vision of them, the race should be able to happen unless the situation is much more dire and immediate than what’s been projected. Whining about a couple generators is small & shrill. If it’s as simple as throwing around a couple extra generators to fix the problem, there wouldn’t be a problem.

    This is probably the most short-sighted and disappointing post I’ve seen on this site over years of reading.

    • Jon H

      And yet, for all that, if the hurricane itself had arrived six days later, the marathon would have been canceled.

      • tjkopena

        I have no idea what that means. Does it mean anything? There’s quite a difference between holding a massive event in the middle of a life threatening, region-choking disaster, and holding it a week after.

        I haven’t seen anyone put forward concrete ways in which not holding the race would have real, positive impact on the recovery effort. If there are, I and presumably everyone else, including Bloomberg, would quite possibly think different. But no one here has brought up any, and comments everywhere else seems fairly similar.

        On the flip side though, there are obvious tangible and intangible reasons to keep it on.

        • Jon H

          It’s not the olympics. They haven’t trained for four years, only to have to wait another four to compete.

          It’s just a marathon. There are lots of marathons, all over the place. It’s held every year. But they won’t have to wait a year to run a marathon.

          Cancellation is just *not* a big deal.

          • Richard

            What will cancellation accomplish (other than telling the world that NYC is not open for business and travel)?

            • Lindsay Beyerstein

              Cancelling the marathon will preserve scarce resources for citizens who have a right to expect essential services.

              According to the lead story on the NYT front page, some residents of housing projects in Coney Island are still without power, water, or even security.

              As far as our civic image goes, is New York going to be ready to put this race on? The city has been paralyzed since Monday.

              It’s late afternoon on Friday and most of Manhattan still doesn’t have power. The lights might be back on by midnight, the electric company says. Filling your gas tank is an all-afternoon project. Public transit is crippled. And the race starts first thing on Sunday.

              This situation has all the makings of a huge, embarrassing clusterfuck.

              • Richard

                Its not true that most of Manhattan is without power. Power was lost below 39th Street and most of that has not come back. But lower Manhattan isn’t “most of Manhattan”. Almost all of Manhattan north of 39th has power (and never lost power). Broadway was back open on Wednesday night.

                All the bus lines are running and train lines are starting again. Some subway service started yesterday (although full subway service is about five days away). The traffic congestion has decreased significantly and gas is being delivered to gas stations. Just spoke with the 84 year old mother of a friend of mine in Jersey who was able to drive out and fill up her car with gas.

                As far as “paralyzed”, thats nonsense. My daughter was with friends in Astoria, Queens during the storm. Never lost power. I was in frequent contact with her. Her apartment in Brooklyn never lost power. She was able to walk from one to the other and then take buses to Manhattan on Wednesday. Granted, her two jobs are near Union Square and there is no power there but that may change by tomorrow.

                I assume that Bloomberg and the Marathon people know better than you or I whether the city can put on the race on Sunday. If they think they can, I would go with their judgment.

                • tjkopena

                  I assume that Bloomberg and the Marathon people know better than you or I whether the city can put on the race on Sunday. If they think they can, I would go with their judgment.

                  This is the key point. I don’t think many people would argue that the race shouldn’t take resources from critical recovery activities. But I wouldn’t think that would be the case given my understanding of the situation and of how events are implemented. More importantly, anyone pushing that line has to either show that the mayor is wrong or out-and-out lying when he concurs that it is not the case. I’m not his biggest fan, but I haven’t seen any actual argument that he’s either.

                • Lindsay Beyerstein

                  The NYC comptroller’s office estimates that economic activity in NYC is 20% of normal. I’d call that paralyzed.

                  Bloomberg and the Marathon people decided to postpone the race.

                • Sharculese

                  I assume that Bloomberg and the Marathon people know better than you or I whether the city can put on the race on Sunday. If they think they can, I would go with their judgment.

                  This is the alternate universe Bloomberg who never lets objective reality get in the way of getting attention, right?

            • Joshua

              NYC really isn’t open for business right now. A staged marathon can’t change reality.

              • Richard

                Uh, all marathons are staged. Large parts of NYC ARE open for business. Broadway is open. By tomorrow, much more will be including much of lower Manhattan. Transportation is getting better and better by the hour.

                The Marathon will help expedite the recovery, not hinder it.

                • Joshua

                  Except the race isn’t run around Broadway over and over.

                  The city is in pretty rough shape now. It will improve, and probably fairly rapidly, but parts of it aren’t even past the “damage assessment” stage, including parts the marathon is run past.

                • ema

                  Um, no. Because of the dangling crane, the only street open near the finish line is CPS. Everything else — B’way, 7th Ave, 58th St., 57th St., and 55th St. — is blocked off.

                  Closing CPS again, something you have to do in order to hold the race, would be detrimental to the area.

                  And that’s just one small part of it.

                  For example, when you have, 2 teaching hospitals evacuated because the generators failed, you have no business providing generators for silly press tents.

    • Sharculese

      Whining about a couple generators is small & shrill.

      Dragging out the fainting couch because somebody suggested that maybe right after a huge natural disaster isn’t the best time for a completely non-essential public spectacle on the other hand, that is cold Vulcan logic.

      • Scott Lemieux

        And also leaves out the more important “shelter” and “first responders” issues.

        • Craigo

          And the fact that with the subways flooded and the buses overwhelmed, it is the height of idiocy to close down miles and miles of public streets so that people can run on them instead of, you know, go to work, transport goods, get people to the remaining hospitals, and other sundry tasks that are obviously much less important than a marathon.

      • ema

        Those silly NYU and Bellevue people whining about generators and stuff.

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  • c u n d gulag

    Plutocrat Bloomberg:
    Circuses for the world! – without the bread, or water, for “The Help” in NY Cities boroughs.

    Too late now, but this is one of the stupidest decisions I’ve ever seen.

    I suggest that instead of a Marathon, you have the runners come and carry water and food for people in the areas still devastated by Sandy.

    • Richard

      And you think that runners from around the world, many of whom do this for a living, would come here on their own dime in order to carry food and water to the devastated areas of NYC (where, by the way, no one is starving – this isn’t Haiti).

      The marathon will go on, money will be spent in NYC this weekend and millions of people around the world will watch on tv and see that not only was NYC not destroyed but that it is open for business now.

      Yeah, cancelling it won’t end the world but it wont accomplish anything either.

      • L.M.

        NYC (where, by the way, no one is starving – this isn’t Haiti).

        Quoted for clueless privilege.

        • sharculese


        • Richard

          So your argument is that NYC today is like Haiti after the earthquake? I would disagree

          • Origami Isopod

            So your argument is that NYC would have to be as devastated as post-earthquake Haiti for you to give a shit?

            Also, hate to tell you, but plenty of people were starving in NYC well before Sandy.

      • Rhino

        Richard, people were starving in NYC before the first glimmering of sandy appeared on the horizon. Granted they were poor, unimportant people, but if you think they are any better off after a huge tropical storm you need to get your head examined.

        Actually, based on all your posts in this thread, you should get your head examined anyway.

        • Richard

          People aren’t dying of starvation in NYC and food and shelter is being provided. The situation in NYC is nothing like Haiti after the earthquake or New Orleans after Katrina. And the city isn’t paralyzed nor are all the lights out in Manhattan.

          • Rhino

            Would you like to bet on whether or not anyone in NYC died of malnutrition related causes last year? How about because they didn’t receive basic health care, or had a dry place to recover from tuberculosis?

            Richard, not only your lack of empathy is showing, but your lack of basic environmental awareness.

            Even the very idea that the needs of someone other than the wealthy sportsman might take precedence is obviously foreign to you, but most people would be smart enough to keep such an obnoxious set of moral values to themselves under these circumstances.

  • catclub

    no mention of the football game that will be played on sunday, also.

    • Richard

      And the basketball game in Brooklyn tonight

      • Scott Lemieux

        3,000 policemen are needed at the Barclay’s Center? This is apples and bananas.

  • Thlayli

    I’m sure you all remember how the 1989 World Series was postponed for several weeks, until every bit of debris had been cleaned up and every single person’s life had been restored to normality.

    Or not.

    • Joe

      I think a 26m marathon is a tad different & the breadth of damage wasn’t the same as I recall. And, after 9/11, local games were postponed for over a week, there the harm was much more localized.

      I think the “pro” side was made well above all the same.

  • bluefoot

    NY Times reports that sanitation workers are complaining they are being assigned to clean up for the marathon rather than Queens, Staten Island and other areas hit by the storm.

    What was Bloomberg saying about not diverting resources?

    And what happens on Tuesday if the power isn’t back on or people can’t get around in order to vote? Will NYC hold the marathon but postpone Election Day?

    • Richard

      NBC is now reporting that the Marathon is being cancelled.

      • tjkopena

        The mayor announces (to paraphrase): “There’s absolutely no reason to not hold this race, but let’s cancel because it’s become a controversy and I don’t want to spend my political capital on it. Now, WTF are we going to do with the 30000 out-of-towners who are still going to be coming in and looking for hotel rooms since I really screwed this up?”

        • Jon H

          It’s manhattan, they’ll find something to do.

        • Craigo

          You unintentionally stumbled upon another reason for canceling/postponing – hundreds of thousands of people are homeless at the moment, and many of them are in hotel rooms that were booked through the weekend by runners and tourists.

          Now I’m not sure of New York innkeeper laws, but there are basically two options here: Either the people who booked the rooms get to kick the homeless out on the street, or they arrive in NYC and have nowhere to stay because the current lodgers can’t be forced out.

          As a side note: It’s funny that Bloomberg would claim with a straight face that there marathon would not divert resources (because apparently New York City has hundreds if not thousands of surplus police and first responders who have nothing better to do in a storm-wrecked city) but it’s sad that someone would actually believe him.

          • tjkopena

            because apparently New York City has hundreds if not thousands of surplus police and first responders who have nothing better to do in a storm-wrecked city

            “First responders” actually means something. I.e., the people that respond first to incidents. At some point, fairly rapidly, disaster response is more about engineers and construction crews, and less about police and EMTs. Not having a bunch of off duty police controlling a marathon isn’t going to get you more engineers, crews, and equipment to clear subways and rebuild homes…

            • Craigo

              Those same crews reported that they were being diverted from Staten Island to the marathon route.

              EMTs are needed in the evacuation zones than ever because many hospitals (and their emergency departments) are still closed.

              And you ignore the fact that police have better things to do during a disaster than watch people watch other people run.

    • Richard

      Its moot now in light of the cancellation but power just came back to the East Village and the Lower East Side. By tomorrow, all of lower Manhattan will be back on the grid with the exception of a few areas where power poles were downed.

      Predictions about no power for another week and NYC being paralyzed were just doom and gloom nonsense. The city survives.

      • Scott Lemieux

        For assumptions that the New York metropolitan area = Manhattan, this makes sense. In the actual world, shelter and first responders can be put to much better use given the ongoing problems in Staten Island, Long Island, etc. etc.

        • Craigo


          Are you trying to tell me that there are people in New York who don’t live in Manhattan?

        • Richard

          No question that Staten and Long Island and a small part of Queens were hit bad. But the rest of NYC had relatively minimal damage and is or shortly will be up and running I think that it would have been good to run the Marathon even though, obviously, resources would have been necessary to do so. What I objected to was the idea, expressed, by many posters, that most of Manhattan was dark or that the city was paralyzed. Simply not true.

          • Richard

            Power is now back on in all of Manhattan. There was basketball at the Garden last night (sold out crowd). There will be basketball tonight in Brooklyn. Pro football will take place on Sunday. All
            Broadway shows are open. All the major museums are open. Lot more needs to be done, especially on Staten Island and Long Island but NYC is not paralyzed.

  • greylocks

    If it were up to me, there would be a Constitutional amendment banning all street marathons everywhere in the country because they fuck up traffic for hours and the only people who give a shit about the damned things are the participants, the hotels and restaurants who take their money, the sports media getting their usual free buffet, and the cops getting OT.

    And that’s under ideal conditions.

    The idea that no resources would be diverted is patently ludicrous to anyone who has ever been anywhere near one of these things.

    • Richard

      Traffic is fucked for “hours” at a time. The horror of it all

  • Mo

    I was for not canceling, but apparently I was too naive. I thought they genuinely would run it without all the hoopla, just the runners, everyone else could fend for themselves. It really does show how entitlement and expectations for how rich/media/celebrity expect to be treated are believed to be run ahead of all decency.

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