Who does Aaron Burr have to blow to get on this list?
Via John Cole, I see that an intrusion of C-list wingnut bloggers have compiled a 1list of the worst Americans evah. It’s just as unimaginative as you’d expect — James Earl Carter secures top honors, with almost four times as many votes as Mr. and Mrs. Clenis, both of whom share 23rd place with a guy most right wingers had never heard of until two years ago. And though you’d assume a list of “Worst Americans” would by definition have to include a healthy number of Confederates, there are, alas, none. The closest we get is John Wilkes Booth, who barely defeats Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid in the middle of the pack. Hell, they don’t even put Jewel on the list.
Amateurs.
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I am only surprised that they included that nice white Christian patriot Timothy McVeigh on their list.
Its because they made them look bad, if he had actually started a race war and the south rose again, he would be a fucking hero.
I just hope we don’t have to go down to the South and kill a few million of those white bigots in another civil war but that is the only way they’ll learn.
Would that it was only the South, but it is everywhere. Indiana has the highest Klan membership in the country. Neonazis are everywhere, but more prominent in Northern cities and California. I grew up in Oklahoma during the 50s and 60s under segregation and Jim Crow, but Chicago, where I lived for 12 years, may be the most intensely racist place I have ever spent much time.
Aaron Burr feh.
William Tecumseh Sherman hated more on the Confederate Party then anyone
You know, if I created a list of the worst Americans ever, there’d be more than one mass murderer on my list. As it is, I can’t believe the Reagan Fellatio Club couldn’t fit Hinckley in there.
Christ, are there any RightWads out there who don’t have the mentality of a 12 year old girl?
Beg pardon, but I was a 12 year old girl once upon a time, I my mind was much, much, better equipped to deal with reality than theirs!
Hopefully more 12 year old girls will be able to outrun these Right Wingers when they go looking for a bride.
Frankly, most wingers’ behavior would embarrass a 4 year old.
I’d also venture that the only reason Obama DIRTY TRICKS isn’t numero uno by some distance is an unwillingness amongst some responders to calling him American.
Chomsky is a puzzler. The Alinsky thing shows how hopelessly enthralled they are to Glenn Beck, but Chomsky is not and never has been of much influence in American liberal politics, sadly.
The fact that you’re pooh-poohing the influence of Alinsky and attributing his presence on the list to conservatives being in “thrall” to Beck is just another example of an American-hating Liberal using the Alinsky Method.
OMG so many are alive today that THE APOCALYPSE MUST BE NIGH!
I have to say, the comments on that page are AWESOME.
Okay, I’ll bite: why in heck do right-wingers hate Jimmy Carter so much? Is it the building houses for poor people, or the solar panels on the White House roof, or what? How do they hate him more than, for instance, either of the Clintons?
He gave away the Panama Canal?
Because the guy that the greatest hero overthrew has to be the worst villain.
For Jimmy Carter it is his proclivity to speak up on behalf of the Palestinians that gets him top honors.
I thought the utter abscence of any Confederates, except John Wilkes Booth, was striking. The legacy of slavery and Southern treason is one of the real stains on American history and guys like Nathan Bedford Forrest and Jefferson Davis couldn’t get so much as a shout out. Maybe someone could have at least mentioned Lester Maddox, George Wallace or Orville Faubus? And Saul Alinksy and Noam Chomsky make the list? These are guys 90% of Americans have never even heard of.
This list reflects poorly on the wing nuts.
It is more than Carter’s support of the Palestinian cause, though I am sure that plays a role. The wingnuts have been hating on Jimmy since he was president. I was around then and never understood the fervor of the rightwing hatred of the man, who was really pretty milk toast and hardly a liberal firebrand.
I think that was when the right began to realize that if you’re going to organize around nothing but hate and spite, you need individual targets to focus on. And like they say, you never forget your first.
Plus he was part of the conspiracy with Jerry Ford to delay the immanentizing of the eschaton from 1976 to 1980. Unforgivable.
It also has something to do with the Iranian hostage crisis and his inability to resolve it (aided and abetted in that failure by St. Ronnie, who sent envoys to the Iranians to delay the release until after the elections).
Plus he was part of the conspiracy with Jerry Ford to delay the immanentizing of the eschaton from 1976 to 1980. Unforgivable.
Carter can see the fnords.
But did he whistle while he was pissing?
I was around then, too, and remember Jimmy well. Things didn’t go great back then, mainly due to OPEC and Ayatollah Khomeini, but it has been over 30 years now and they still hate him with a passion.
It is hard to understand. I think it might be because they perceived him as weak and nothing can be worse to an armchair tough guy than weakness.
Part of it is coincidental, as well. When Carter was president, a lot of dirt came out–a lot of whistle-blowing on CIA assassination plots and CHAOS and MKULTRA and the like, just as the country was still trying to make sense of Watergate and the idea that presidents lie and scheme. Carter, to his credit, didn’t try to tamp down all the various revelations; he barely even responded to them, and he did try to reform the CIA. That earned him the enmity of guys like Arnaud de Borchgrave and Michael Ledeen, who were high enough in the media food chain to have some influence, and who both unabashedly cashed CIA checks to write pieces for the newspapers in the past.
Since that time, there has been a tendency to paint Carter as the guy who weakened the US by hamstringing our brave intelligence forces–just look what happened at the embassy in Tehran!–without noting that it was Carter that set in motion what would later become the largest-ever CIA operation: the arming and equipping of the Afghan Mujahiddeen.
That is certainly a big part of it.
How did Jesse Jackson not merit their hatred? Back in the day, he and Mohammed Ali were genuinely despised.
You mean Jess “vulgar race hustler” Jackson? Or is that only reserved for Al Sharpton now?
About MA: did you look under his slave name? There was a time it was a badge of wingnut honor to only call him “Cassius Clay.”
Yes, and I’m old enough to (barely) remember both names. He’s not their under either.
“there,” not “their.” I blame WordPress.
Is that like a gaggle of geese, a flock of seagulls, etc?
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Wow! I’m going to remember that at my next Faculty Senate meeting!
Likewise.
What the hell? You guys go to faculty senate meetings? Couldn’t you find something more useful with your time, like reading Big Hollywood or something?
But I go to them with an airhorn and a bullhorn to alternately disrupt and heckle!
I was surprised to see that Nixon made the list…must be because he was so liberal, what with establishing the EPA and all?
He also weakened the presidency by resigning under threat of impeachment instead of simply calling the seditious liberal bluff and carrying on with whatever he felt like doing. It took the Cheney administration to show that if you brazenly ignore the Constitution, limits on executive power simply go away.
I suspect that they put Nixon on the list because he was so undeniably criminal that they had to say something bad about him. Prior to Nixon, Republicans could point to the Dems as the party of distasteful corruption; maybe the wingnuts are just pissed off that Tricky Dick let their own cat out of the bag.
You may be giving the Repugnant-ones more credit than they’re due. I don’t think that many of them concede that Nixon was corrupt or criminal in any way, except insofar as he was “really a big government liberal on domestic issues,” as I’ve heard more than once.
It’s hard to know what sort of reasoning any of these bloggers employed, but the emergent wingnut caucus in the 1970s loathed Nixon for a lot of reasons, not the least of which was detente…. My guess is that at least some of these wankers were remembering that Nixon was insufficiently tough on the Soviets for their liking.
It is perhaps rather a stretch to use the word “reason” to describe their thought processes. I suspect the fact the the modern conservative movement is the bastard child of Goldwater (most of its seminal figures got their start there) also plays a role.
What about Walter Ruether, George Meany, Richard Trumka, Albert Parsons, et al*? Are unions suddenly OK?
*Who was the guy with the bushy eyebrows way back?
*Who was the guy with the bushy eyebrows way back?
Brezhnev.
Well, it depends what you mean by “crisis.”
These Klassic Krusty reruns suck.
I think he means John L Lewis, the mineworker’s president. An undeservedly forgotten figure in the 20th-century history of American labor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Lewis
Although he looked a little like Brezhnev, disin’t he?
“didn’t he”
I can’t blame wordpress, I can only blame my fatt fingers.
It was Lewis I was thinking of.
Undeniable proof that Lewis is really Brezhnev’s father and the American labor movement is, therefore, responsible for Communism and the Cold War.
John L. Lewis – United Mine Workers
I should learn to scroll down before I post.
I think this list is just tremendous. Just fantastic. It really susses out the patriots from the traitors who have sought to destroy these United States.
How could they leave off Tommy Lasorda?