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Here are a couple of representative quotes from the full transcript of an interview the Wall Street Journal did with Donald Trump last week, but which for some not very mysterious reason it declined to publish. Politico, which against all odds has become a useful publication, got ahold of it.

So I deal with foreign countries, and despite what you may read I have unbelievable relationships with all of the foreign leaders. They like me. I like them. You know, it’s amazing. So I’ll call, like, major – major countries, and I’ll be dealing with the prime minister or the president. And I’ll say, how are you doing? Oh, don’t know, don’t know, not well, Mr. President, not well. I said, well, what’s the problem? Oh, GDP 9 percent, not well. And I’m saying to myself, here we are at like 1 percent, dying, and they’re at 9 percent and they’re unhappy. So, you know, and these are like countries, you know, fairly large, like 300 million people. You know, a lot of people say – they say, well, but the United States is large. And then you call places like Malaysia, Indonesia, and you say, you know, how many people do you have? And it’s pretty amazing how many people they have. So China’s going to be at 7 or 8 percent, and they have a billion-five, right? So we should do really well.

WSJ: We were in West Virginia yesterday.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Oh, you did? Was that a scene, though? Huh?

WSJ: That was a scene, yes. (Laughter.)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Biggest crowd they’ve ever had. What did you think?

WSJ: I thought it was an interesting speech in the context of the Boy Scouts.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Right.

WSJ: They seemed to get a lot of feedback from former scouts and –

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Did they like it?

WSJ: It seemed mixed.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: They loved it. (Laughter.) It wasn’t – it was no mix. That was a standing –

WSJ: In the – you got a good – you got a good reaction in –

PRESIDENT TRUMP: I mean, you know, he writes mostly negative stuff. But that was a standing ovation –

WSJ: You got a good reaction inside the arena, that’s right.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: – from the time I walked out on the stage – because I know. And by the way, I’d be the first to admit mixed. I’m a guy that will tell you mixed. There was no mix there. That was a standing ovation from the time I walked out to the time I left, and for five minutes after I had already gone. There was no mix.

WSJ: Yeah, there was a lot of supporters in the arena.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: And I got a call from the head of the Boy Scouts saying it was the greatest speech that was ever made to them, and they were very thankful. So there was – there was no mix.

MR. BAKER: Sir, can I ask you about taxes?

I would bet everything I own that the description of that phone call — if it even happened, which it probably didn’t — is false. What I wouldn’t want to bet on is whether Trump is lying or simply delusional.

Anyway, the whole thing is indescribable. Read at your own risk.

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  • socraticsilence

    How shitty does an interview with the President of the United States have to be not to print it….. (reads transcript)…. huh, so we’re fucked if there’s a 9/11, Katrina level crisis aren’t we?

    • How else can our country’s worst major editorial page cape for pro-Trump foxes reasonably within the bounds of plausible deniability …not chucklefuckingly

      Why does the interview start in medias res?

      • humanoidpanda

        I was just thinking about that: if you ignore the Trump horror show, the last 18 months had been the most crisis free stretch we’ve enjoyed since 1999 or so: solid economy, here and globally, ISIS rolled back, no pandemics, no major natural disasters, no shutdowns/debt ceiling confrontations, no new major wars or international crises. How long can this last, and what’s going to happen when something happens?

        Also of note: the first 12 months of this stretch got Obama to 60% approval. Trump got himself to 38% approval with things going, by and large, swimmingly!

        • DN Nation

          no pandemics

          Solid work by the CDC, let’s slash their budget to their bone because they’re NERDS and also Peggy Noonan told me that SAHMs know that little Madysynnye needs to stay home when she’s got the sniffles and that’s all the prevention the public needs.

          • BigHank53

            We've got nukes. The best nukes! Ebola doesn't stand a chance!

          • (((realinterrobang)))

            And let’s just conveniently overlook that little Madysynnye hasn’t had her shots…

        • firefall

          Solid economy? oh, you’re in Germany?

  • quakerinabasement

    “No mix! No mix!”

    • dogboy

      NO YOU’RE THE MIX!

  • There are some who say Trump just doesn’t give good interviews–that he doesn’t interact well with people with whom he is not comfortable.
    And others contend that Trump’s mind moves so fast that his mouth can’t really keep up with it, thus leading to the rambling incoherence we see in every venue.
    I suspect the reality is that the mish-mash of derailed train-of-consciousness that characterizes every Trump interview, every Trump speech, and 85% of all Trump Tweets is a clear conveying of what actually goes on in his head. It’s a babble of nonsense up there, with fantasy smooshing up against half-remembered facts and distorted images of things hoped for and things feared.
    IOW, he’s stupid, ignorant, and a fair distance over the line of being mentally ill.

    • humanoidpanda

      But also, he possesses a narcissistic shield the likes of which the world had never seen. I mean, seriously, he just experienced the humiliation of the head of the BSA apologizing on his behalf, and effortlessly transmuted this into a conversation in which same person thought this was the greatest thing he ever experieinced. His total and utter immunity to to humiliation or perspective is as close to a superpower I’ve ever saw anyone exhibit in real life.

      • Mona Williams

        It reminds me of what a Zamboni does–brain getting resurfaced every half-hour.

      • Marduk Kur

        But, and this is the important thing, so many little kids cheered for him. So Many. They love him! The adults might have been embarrassed but what do they know about the world?

        • Hogan

          That was a standing ovation from the time I walked out to the time I left, and for five minutes after I had already gone.

          No wonder they loved it–they couldn’t hear it over the applause.

        • tsam100

          I ain’t gonna lie, I’m more mad at the BSA than Trump. One fully expects Trump to act like a 7 year old after a speedball, and they brought that POS in to speak to adolescent boys, knowing all about his racism, sexism, xenophobia, and estranged relationship with the truth.

          One person on Twitter: The Boy Scouts exist to teach us not to grow up to be like him.

    • Mona Williams

      I think it’s something to do with the neuron connections in the brain–not having any.

    • TopsyJane

      Some time ago Charlie Rose reran an old interview with Trump from the 90s. He was still the same dishonest blowhard but he was also far more coherent. Something’s gone wrong.

    • philadelphialawyer

      His mind is filled with big ideas, images and distorted facts.

      He’s an idiot babe, its a wonder that he still knows how to breathe.

    • tsam100

      I think he wants to be in control of every conversation, so he doesn’t let interviewers take him to where he doesn’t feel comfortable running his pukehole. So he goes back to listing off 100 superlatives about a crowd he saw, rather than answering a question.
      An outsider could mistake that for being batshit crazy and incapable of focusing on the subject matter at hand, which is fucking terrifying for a president who needs to quell crises and maintain diplomatic ties.

    • BeatnikBob

      Best gif ever–closeup of Trump pouting at one of his Nazi rallies, with this accompanying text:

      They are going to name a mental illness after you.

  • Daniel Elstner

    Clearly, it is insane to still argue that Trump is not insane.

    • Deborah Bender

      I console myself with the thought that Britain survived having a mad king and went on to greater things. George III was a nicer person. He was succeeded by heirs who were as awful as Trump’s sons, and Britain got past that, too.

      • humanoidpanda

        With the major difference that British kings can be safely ignored..

        • JamesWimberley

          I am very out of date on British constitutional history, but you can make a case that George III was the last British monarch who can be said to have ruled. You don’t read of decisive interventions of the Prince Regent in the wars with Revolutionary and Napoleonic France. The porphyria had consequences.

        • Deborah Bender

          Now they can, but that’s in part because of the later Georges. King George III, while he was still sane, was a relative hardliner on the demands of the American colonists, and that influenced Parliament’s policies in the years immediately preceding the Revolutionary War. (According to a history of the American Revolution called, I believe, Revolutionaries.)

          Most of what I know about the royals between George III and Victoria I got from a BBC miniseries on Queen Victoria. GIII had been well liked, but his successors were ne’er-do-wells and unpopular. I infer that Parliament, whose power was already on the rise, was strengthened by the accurate perception that Britain’s titular rulers could not be counted on to govern well.

      • M.

        Only because Edmund Blackadder took the place of his heir though.

  • DN Nation

    Caddy smelled like trees, I mean, you should’ve smelled them, they were just the best trees, you don’t see trees like that anymore, right? And we’re gonna have such good trees, you can just put your face in them and smell them, and they’ll smell great. Great great great. That’ll be Caddy for you.

  • sibusisodan

    I can only assume they broke the transcription into small batches and spread them round the office, lest any typist see too much, and go insane.

  • tsam100
    • Unemployed_Northeastern

      Where is President Camacho when we really need him?

      • (((realinterrobang)))

        At least he had the self-awareness to hire the smartest people in the world to help him run things.

  • sibusisodan

    Things that stand out from the madness:

    – DJT knows about, and is keen to discuss, golf. His knowledge and desire to discuss it exceeds anything he’s displaying relating to the office he holds.

    – he seems to think that the US, the world’s largest, most advanced and complex economy by long way, is capable of growing at 9% per year. This is risible, and shouldn’t need saying.

    – He brought up the electoral college margin of victory again.

    – If the interviewer denoted WSJ isn’t British, they should immediately be granted honorary citizenship for ‘I thought it was an interesting speech in the context of the Boy Scouts.’ That is epic Britspeak, Sir Humphrey applauds.

    • N__B

      he seems to think that the US, the world’s largest, most advanced and complex economy by long way, is capable of growing at 9% per year.

      Of course not. He thinks it should be growing at 9% per year and that it would be if “burdensome regulations” were eliminated.

    • Unemployed_Northeastern

      Don’t confuse Trump with words like “risible.” He’ll undoubtedly think it has something to do with what happens to him when a young woman walks by.

      • btfjd

        He wishes.

    • humanoidpanda

      It’s not that only that he thinks that the US can grow by 9% a year. IT’s that he thinks that when people say small economies can grow faster, he thinks that literally referers to how large a country is. So, if Indonesia has 200 million people and grows fast, why can’t we?

      I mean, I am at a total loss for words.

      • sibusisodan

        “Not even ‘not even wrong.'”

    • Robbert

      Mind you, he doesn’t even say that in the quoted bit. He just says ‘GDP 9 percent’, which is just gibberish. We assume he’s talking about growth because that’s the only way his remark makes even the slightest bit of sense, but there really is no telling if that is what he’s really talking about. I honestly don’t think he knows, either. He’s just babbling. Recall that during the campaign he once claimed that the US’ GDP was zero. He simply has no fucking clue what he’s talking about and I think we shouldn’t be reading things into his remarks (‘oh, of course he means this or that’) that are wrong but at least coherent. Cause we have no reason to think his thoughts on the matter are coherent.

      • Mona Williams

        Most people speak in substantives and connecting words. With Trump, it’s just the connecting words.

      • Bizarro Mike

        You know, I remember him babbling about the high crime rates, and all the sense anyone could make of it was that he wasn’t talking about the murder rate, but the murder rate growth. Since the rate is low, the derivative percent change is a noisy signal. But Trump was sure everyone in Chicago was being murdered every day (and twice Sundays).

        I think he doesn’t understand the difference between value and rate of change. For someone who has a lot of money invested, that’s really saying something.

        • wjts

          Anecdotal, but I lived in Chicago from 1995 to 2003 and was only murdered six times, so less than once a year.

      • Unemployed_Northeastern

        I am reminded of the deposition transcript I read years ago wherein this master real estate developer and Wharton (undergrad) grad couldn’t explain what net present value was.

        • M Lister

          Having taught at Wharton for three years (although a long time after Trump was there!) I’ll go on record saying that, on average, the undergrads there are smarter and harder working than the MBA students. (Other grad students – PhD students in Legal Studies, Statistics, Finance, etc. are smart, but I was not impressed by the MBA students, and think the typical undergrad is smarter and certainly harder working – and I have a slightly mixed view of the undergrads!)

    • Deborah Bender

      I used to be a little upset when Rachel Maddow pointed out how many days our president has spent away from DC at golf courses, and how much the travel costs the taxpayer. I’m beginning to think that Trump should be encouraged to play golf more.

  • ELV

    What in the holy hell did I just read? And how in the holy hell can I still find myself dumbfounded by chump’s stupidity and hubris?

    • Mona Williams

      We could repeal and replace, or just repeal, or just replace, or who knows, we just have to decide, you know? Maybe some night over dinner.

      • Hogan

        And that’s what I said from the beginning.

  • Politico, which against all odds has become a useful publication

    Honestly, this has for the most part been the case since VandeHei & Allen left for Axios (which itself is apparently actually good); their Trump roundtables were what finally won me over. Pretty much their only consistently terrible writers are Rich Lowry and (drumroll please) Jack Shafer – and even Shafer’s been much less loathesome since being forcibly restricted to weekly recap duty.

  • SomeTreasonBrewing

    “And then you call places like Malaysia, Indonesia, and you say, you know, how many people do you have?”

    I like to think stuff like this occupies large parts of his day. That, and cable television viewing. A question comes up about the population of a country, and instead of just looking it up, he calls the Prime Minister of the country. That must take an hour overall to see to its conclusion. Maybe his senior staffers are even hip to the tactic of encouraging useless phone calls as a way to run through huge chunks of the work day.

    If we all work together, we can keep him busy with 3rd grader trivia, and run out the clock one wasted day at a time.

    • N__B

      “And you talk like that 24/7, huh?”

      • tsam100

        You one of those countries that speaks Muslim?

      • spencer_e9876

        “Get me Thailand. You know, T – I – …. and so on.”

    • Bizarro Mike

      Maybe his advisors intercept his phone calls, put on fake funny accents, and answer his questions by checking the CIA world fact book.

      • Deborah Bender

        I think about the final years of the Wilson and Reagan administrations, and that idea is not as unlikely as it seemed at first.

        • the actual Bajmahal

          Oh sure, you could fool Ol’ Ronnyboy, but no way would that have worked on Edith.

      • Unemployed_Northeastern

        Or Wikipedia, even.

        • Deborah Bender

          That would do.

        • farin

          Can’t trust the Deep State, after all.

          Or books.

    • royko

      Well, he called up Mike Flynn at 3am to ask him whether a strong or weak dollar was good.

      That ain’t right.

    • WinningerR

      Yes, Mattis’ people put him through to the “Prime Minister”–an intern sitting a couple doors down the hall.

      • wjts

        “Anybody ever tell you you sound almost exactly like the Prime Resident of Blonggongistan? Because you do. You really do.”

  • spencer_e9876

    “Major countires” with nine percent GDP growth? Who the fuck is he talking about?

    http://statisticstimes.com/economy/countries-by-projected-gdp-growth.php

    For what it’s worth, most of the countries at the top of that list are starting from a pretty low baseline, so it wouldn’t necessarily take as much actual economic activity to generate high annual growth rates. Not that Trump would understand that.

    • DN Nation

      Hey, Iraq and Burma! All we have to do is either…

      1) Be a war-torn country because of, um, the United States (so I guess to keep the power ratio the same, war would have to be inflicted upon us by an advanced alien species)
      or
      2) Be coming off of years of military dictatorship

      Sounds great, sign me up, Roll Tide.

      • Xer

        We are just one Cultural Revolution away from spectacular growth! (Wait, ugh, China is not even at 7% anymore.)

        • postmodulator

          If they ever were. I find the argument that China jukes its statistics quite convincing.

      • JKTH

        1) Be a war-torn country because of, um, the United States

        That doesn’t sound hard for us to do.

      • farin

        Can we just…skip to the post-dictatorship? I mean, we already know how the middle part good.

    • Unemployed_Northeastern

      I halfway suspect he’ll say we had 11% GDP growth this year at this time next year. Because of course he will.

    • Jean-Michel

      “Major countires” with nine percent GDP growth? Who the fuck is he talking about?

      Presumably all those countries with 300 million or more people. Here in the real world it’s just the U.S., India, and China, but he seems to think Malaysia (actual population: about one-tenth of that) qualifies as well.

    • Bloix

      That’s just what he doesn’t understand. Someone told him, “larger economies can’t grow as fast in percentage terms as smaller economies” and he understood that to mean “large countries’ economies” etc. So he says now, wachutalkinbout, China, Malaysia, Indonesia – all those large countries!” He’s got the ignorant person’s tendency to conclude that a person who knows something must be a liar.

  • dogboy

    I call up the leaders of these other countries, big, like did you know there’s a place called Kualanesia? Big big place, has a king! They love gambling but they execute drug dealers. We should be doing more of that. I won by so many votes, the biggest margin in history but the drug dealers all vote for Hillary. I had a Mexican caddy once, he was probably illegal, but (crosstalk) Hillary and then (crosstalk) chopsticks and the tallest building the world! But my hands really are large, the best.

  • Gregor Sansa

    Who the fuck is Mr. Elegant?

    • M.

      It’s an ELO song, right?

      • wjts

        Kinks, I think.

  • JMP

    Poor dumb Donald, he can’t tell the difference between people patronizing him and liking him.

  • hellslittlestangel

    No matter how smart, shrewd, sharp, educated or canny The Orange Better One may be, the fact is that he is a fucking simpleton.

  • humanoidpanda

    In other news, it’s not really over until the orange monster sings, but it does seem that we might, just might, have won the ACA war.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/us/politics/senators-launch-bipartisan-effort-to-shore-up-obamacare.html?_r=0

    Mr. Alexander’s announcement was the first tangible indication of cooperation between the parties since Republican efforts to scrap the Affordable Care Act collapsed in the Senate last week. It was followed just minutes later by a pledge from a bipartisan group of House members to cooperate on health care legislation of their own.

    President Trump has repeatedly threatened to cut off the subsidies, known as cost-sharing reduction payments, which reimburse insurers for cutting deductibles and other out-of-pocket costs for millions of low-income people.

    Lawmakers Have Bipartisan Health Ideas. Now to Persuade Their Leaders … JULY 28, 2017
    Mr. Alexander said it was important for Mr. Trump to approve the payments for August and September, and that Congress should “in a bipartisan way” approve a further continuation of the payments through 2018.

    “Without payment of these cost-sharing reductions,” he said, “Americans will be hurt. Up to half the states will likely have bare counties with zero insurance providers offering insurance on the exchanges, and insurance premiums will increase by roughly 20 percent, according to America’s Health Insurance Plans,” a trade group for insurers.

    • humanoidpanda

      I mean, it sure sounds like a white flag to me..

    • Deborah Bender

      “It’s the law of the land.”

      Thanks for the link to the Times article. I thought the quote from Sen. Kennedy was particularly interesting.

  • Lost Left Coaster

    I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t read that shit. It was wholly unintelligible. I felt like I was trying to read a language that I hadn’t studied.

    • DaftPunkd

      The only complete sentence was “They’ve taken advantage of a president, named Barack Obama, who didn’t know what the hell he was doing.”

    • Cheap Wino

      I got what looks to be almost half way through before giving up. Jabberwocky made more sense.

      • Jabberwocky is written in (highly) literate English, used to express complete thoughts; it just happens to have a lot of previously unknown words (mostly nouns and adjectives, but some verbs and interjections as well). Being grammatical (and literate) it makes plenty of sense, just not sense that is sense of our world (or rather Lewis Carroll’s world).

        • Cheap Wino

          Pretty much the point.

  • keta

    Bob Mueller can fold up the tent, call in the dogs and piss on the fire. The Russia thing has been definitively put to rest:

    TRUMP: …He said – I was watching, Corey Lewandowski – he says: I was here from the beginning. And I must be honest with you, I never dealt with any Russians. He was only the campaign manager. I can even look at Hope. She was here from virtually the same day that Corey started, those two. Hope, how many Russians have you seen involved in the campaign, OK?

    HOPE HICKS: None. (Laughs.)

    And that, as they say, is the end of that.

  • Boots Day

    And by the way, I’d be the first to admit mixed. I’m a guy that will tell you mixed.

    The lack of self-awareness here is just hilarious. You can tell he’s just so inured to being surrounded by sycophants that he can spout out any random self-praise, no matter how ridiculous, and expect Jared and Ivanka to just nod their heads.

    • Daniel Elstner

      I think what he’s getting at here is his ability to read an audience, which he really does seem to have. Of course the WSJ reporter wasn’t referring to the on site response, but he had a hard time getting that through and ultimately gave up.

      • ColBatGuano

        He might be able to read an audience, but he would never admit that it wasn’t 100% positive. His ego couldn’t handle it.

        • Daniel Elstner

          Fair point.

        • I think he can read an audience when he can pick the audience. I don’t think he could handle a hostile crowd at all.

        • Gregor Sansa

          You know how “when you’re a star they let you do it”? In a way it’s not so different. He has the ability to get an audience to go along with something because the script for what he wants them to do is so obvious and the way to say “no, sorry, that’s actually not cool” is much trickier. But it doesn’t mean they don’t feel dirty afterwards.

          (Obviously anybody who attends one of his rallies on purpose will just chase the next hit if they ever start to feel dirty. But I’m talking about the cub scouts here. I remember being cub scout age and there are memories of ridiculous things I said “just with the guys” that still make my face burn with shame today. You can’t expect that crowd to be able to break the script a master con-man is laying out for them.)

    • Unemployed_Northeastern

      I'd never brag about it but I have the classiest game around when it comes to being humble. I do humble better than anybody. Everyone says I have the best humble.

  • njorl

    “So I’ll call, like, major – major countries, and I’ll be dealing with the prime minister or the president.”
    Trump talks about “major” countries like a high school boy talks about his Canadian girlfriend.

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP: … But, no, I’m very disappointed in the fact that the Justice Department has not gone after the leakers. And they’re the ones that have the great power to go after the leakers, you understand. So – and I’m very disappointed in Jeff Sessions.

    WSJ: You can fire him.

    PRESIDENT TRUMP: Look, Jeff – I could. But we’ll see what happens. But I was – I appointed a man to a position. And then shortly after he gets the position, he recused himself. I said, what’s that all about? Why didn’t you tell me that you were going to do that, and I wouldn’t have appointed you? But I appointed him. And shortly thereafter, he recused himself. So I think that is a –

    You can fire him

    You can fire him

    YOU CAN FIRE HIM

    FIRE HIM

  • Deborah Bender

    I haven’t the stomach to read the transcript, but the excerpts for some reason put me in mind of a track from a National Lampoon record that was a vicious satire on John Lennon’s solo career and an interview Lennon gave to Rolling Stone. The track ends, “Genius is pain. Genius is pain.”

    • Dalai_Rasta
      • Deborah Bender

        Wow. You’re so quick. The Internet is a wonderful thing. As is this blog and its commenters.

        The cover art is more sophisticated than I noticed back in the day. NRA sticker, scotties on the checked tablecloth, Ritz crackers, salt and pepper buttons.

        • Dalai_Rasta
          • Deborah Bender

            Aww. There is love in that eye.

            I had a cat once who had been fixed but still had a strong sex drive, mostly frustrated because there were no unspayed female cats in the neighborhood. He used to masturbate with a blankie. He would take a bite of it, hold it in his mouth, tread the rest of it with a faraway expression in his eyes, and after a couple of minutes he would shudder and stop. And he would hump a stuffed animal if I shook it.

            I didn’t have any other male cats at the time; if I had, he would probably have tried it on with them. He was a small cat and had a small guy personality; demanded respect from all.

      • StrokeCityFC

        That’s Tony Hendra, who later gained fame playing “Ian Faith” in “This is Spinal Tap.”

    • Dennis Orphen

      All the phrases used in that track were actualy said by Lennon in various interviews, but unlike Trump, not in that order in one interview.

  • Daniel Elstner

    In the discussion of tax reform, I found it quite interesting how sold he seems to be on the idea that Democrats would obstruct *raising taxes* on the rich. I have a suspicion that certain Republicans made sure to hammer this line of thought into his head just in case he might get ideas about adopting Bannon’s approach here.

    Of course Democrats would be stupid to oppose such a move in the unlikely event that it happened. It would totally marginalize the Republicans and might actually cause them to impeach Trump.

    • stepped pyramids

      Well, Trump has been happily lying his ass off for some time now about how his various tax plans actually raise taxes on the rich. This is just part of that.

      • Daniel Elstner

        I’m not sure that he recognizes it as lying.

        • stepped pyramids

          He’s either lying (or indifferent to the truth, which is the same thing) or he is severely mentally handicapped. Which I suppose is possible, and terrifying.

        • Hogan

          I’m not sure he recognizes anything as anything.

  • The video has been found – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sri91uVMoEg

  • ColBatGuano

    TRUMP: …Obama took would you say a year-and-a-half?

    BAKER: Yeah.

    WSJ: He took a year and a half, yeah.

    Yeah, that slacker. Taking a year and a half to restructure health care. What a loser.

    • Hogan

      Trump is correct: At no point in time did he pledge to repeal and replace Obamacare in 61 or 64 days. Instead, he pledged to demand a repeal on Day One — even if it took a special session of Congress to make it happen. He pledged on several occasions to repeal it “immediately.” The message he conveyed to his voters was very much not that “this is something we will get to eventually” but that this was something that would come first on the agenda.

  • stepped pyramids

    TRUMP: – what’s Trump doing? He hasn’t produced health care. I’m not even six months yet, right? So these guys went eight years – Hillary Clinton, eight years, got nothing. Obama went a year and a half, almost two years, and they had to sell their soul. They had to give away the state of Nebraska in order to buy that vote. And that was two years. I’m six months. They got to give me a little break, OK?

    First of all, it took me ages to realize that the “eight years” for Hillary he’s talking about is the Bill Clinton presidency, as if Hillary was working on health care the whole time.

    Second, holy shit, Trump is still talking about “giving away Nebraska”. Not only was the Cornhusker Kickback not passed into law, but it was a giveaway to Nebraska.

  • Mona Williams

    All those people… who knew?

  • MariedeGournay

    Great title choice.

    • Hogan

      Caddy Ivanka!

      • MariedeGournay

        Ivanka smells like trees.

  • There are no countries with 300,000,000 except the US, China and India which each have at least four times that.

    • Unemployed_Northeastern

      Trump was probably thinking of Indonesia, which has 257 million or so, and of course that rounds up to 300 million. Or, if one were, say, estimating one’s self-worth net worth, ten billion or so.

  • i just read Trump transcripts in George Costanza’s voice. because it’s funny. and because i fucking despise Trump’s actual speech pattern.

  • LibreV

    Trump as Bengy Compson in `The Sound and the Fury’ is genius. Thank you for that and the Trump-theme putting green centerfold from the latest edition of the book.

  • quakerinabasement

    “Mr. Elegant.” He’s being nasty about Anderson Cooper.

  • Unemployed_Northeastern

    I mean, even Sports Illustrated has a pretty damning article on Trump this week. Selected highlights:

    “Last month Trump got a national championship when the USGA brought the U.S. Women’s Open to Bedminister. Trump spent 2 1/2 days chewing the scenery at the tournament, his obvious good cheer undiminished by a smattering of protesters on nearby roadways and others standing peacefully beneath his aerie looming over the 16th tee. Trump tweeted eight times about the event, more than he has since taking office about opioid addiction, the international refugee crisis and climate change … combined.”

    ….

    “I said I was the best golfer of all the rich people, to be exact, and then I got a hole in one. So it was sort of cool.” [Kim Jong Donald Trump]

    ….

    “In February, while Trump’s so-called Muslim ban was front-page news, Eric and his brother Donald Jr. flew to the United Arab Emirates under Secret Service protection for the gala opening of Trump International Golf Club Dubai, a swank new course at the heart of a vast development where thousands of luxury homes offer the chance for Saudis and Iranians and other wealthy buyers to park their money.”

    ….

    “Trump’s partner in both [Indonesian golf course] developments is Hary Tanoesoedibjo, a billionaire who was a vice presidential candidate in Indonesia on a failed ticket in 2014. Tanoesoedibjo was an invited guest at Trump’s inauguration and later said his friend had inspired him to strongly consider running for Indonesia’s presidency. An April ’17 story by The Intercept detailed Tanoesoedibjo’s alleged links to an ISIS-backed militia that is seeking to oust Indonesia’s democratically elected president, Joko Widodo.”

    “Chatting with some members before a recent round of golf, he explained his frequent appearances: “That White House is a real dump.””

  • LosGatosCA

    All of this is extremely amusing, of course.

    But like any used car/real estate sales person he’s really just throwing shit at the wall to see what gets the mark/customer to sign. He doesn’t care about what he’s saying, there’s no measure of what Is about to be said is true, relevant, good or bad. It’s like an auctioneer’s cadence – it’s not a persuasive presentation of the item being bid, it’s just meant to create a vibe to drive the price higher. Every time Trump says win, winning, or variations, he’s just talking about the mark signed the contract, customer bought the bullshit, made the sale.

    Bush II was exactly the same. He was just the front man, his name was on the dealership but it was as if he barely even knew the dealership sold cars. Trump prides himself on not knowing what he’s selling.

    I can see him going to bed at night saying to himself – those people at the WSJ thought it was the greatest interview ever – and I don’t even know what the hell I was talking about. That’s pretty fucking genius – I’m just making shit up, but I’m so intelligent it’s the best stuff they’ve ever heard.

    Whether he even believes or understands or even cares about anything he’s saying is an open question. He’s bluffed his way through life and he’s the president. No reason to stop now.

    You can’t shame him, he’s not trying to win a debate with facts, he doesn’t give one shit about anything a normal person would consider true, ethical, principled, etc. it’s simply irrelevant.

    The puppet sequence in the debate with Hillary completely captured the level of consciousness he and the 45% that voted for him are operating at.

    ETA – of course Trump is a functional moron. As was Bush II.

  • What good reason is there to ask Donald any substantive question specially when there’s no follow up? I know it’s hard to say “What the fuck, Mr. Presnit” in a polite way. Or keep repeating it. Still. Used to be the analigists’ job.
    As for the BSA call: They pushed Donald into pulling something out of his ass so he could make himself look good. Not a lie; psychic Onanism, nothing more.

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