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Oh my God it even has a watermark.

An embattled Donald Trump urgently rallied his most visible supporters to defend his attacks on a federal judge’s Mexican ancestry during a conference call on Monday in which he ordered them to question the judge’s credibility and impugn reporters as racists.

“We will overcome,” Trump said, according to two supporters who were on the call and requested anonymity to share their notes with Bloomberg Politics. “And I’ve always won and I’m going to continue to win. And that’s the way it is.” . . .

Trump ignited the controversy when he defended his real-estate program by saying Curiel has an inherent conflict of interest because of his Mexican heritage, because the candidate has proposed building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border to curb illegal immigration. Curiel was born in Indiana, and Trump’s complaint has been criticized by Republican leaders, legal experts, and other commentators. Trump on Sunday broadened his argument by saying on CBS that it’s possible a Muslim judge could treat him unfairly too, because of his proposed ban on Muslim immigration.

“I should have won this thing years ago,” Trump said on the call about the case, adding that Curiel is a “member of La Raza.” Curiel is affiliated with La Raza Lawyers of California, a Latino bar association.

A clearly irritated Trump told his supporters to attack journalists who ask questions about the lawsuit and his comments about the judge.

“The people asking the questions—those are the racists,” Trump said. “I would go at ’em.”

Suggesting a broader campaign against the media, Trump said the campaign should also actively criticize television reporters. “I’d let them have it,” he said, referring to those who Trump portrayed as hypocrites.

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  • mikeSchilling

    Is Alberto Gonzalez acting as a surrogate for Trump. or is he just a moron?

    • howard

      he is at least a moron.

    • Randy

      The two are not mutually exclusive. In fact, one is a subset of the other.

      • rea

        #Notallmorons

    • Yes

      • efgoldman

        Yes

        Hey, that’s my schtick!

    • los

      Maybe Trump threatened to waterboard and self-deport Alberto Gonzalez?
      (Trump: “Your name is Gonzalez? You’re a member of La Raza!”)

      Trump as GOP nominee proves that even Karl Rove’s hitmen obey the mob.

  • MacK

    It’s time for Trump’s supporters to learn a little fact even the proto-il Duce presumably knows from yelling “you’re fired!” – First Amendment right do not app,y to your employment relationship – if you “thug for Trump” and your employer thinks your behavior is unacceptable, you cannot whine “but free speech.”

    • Murc

      First Amendment right do not app,y to your employment relationship

      They probably should, but as far as I know yes, this is true.

      • njorl

        If you’re a faceless cog in a corporate machine, there should probably be no repercussions for your political speech. If your speech affects your employer’s earnings in a real manner, then they should be able to fire you.
        In cases where it is desirable to encourage uninhibited speech in employees who affect an organization’s reputation, there can be arrangements like tenure to protect speech.

    • ThrottleJockey

      Speaking of free speech, I thought this was an interesting case. What free speech rights to school kids have? Do they have a right to support a presidential candidate in school?

      A California elementary school student has one simple wish: Make school dress codes great again.

      Third-grader Logan Autry, 9, said officials at Powers-Ginsburg Elementary School in Fresno told him to remove his “Make America Great Again” hat because it could stir “negative emotions” in other children.

      The red baseball cap with the phrase printed in white capital letters has become almost synonymous with the campaign of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

      “The principal told me to take it off, and I still didn’t take it off,” Autry told Fox and Friends on Saturday. “And she said it was against the dress code to wear the hat, but I looked in the dress code and it was not against it.”

      Autry’s stepmom, Angela Hoffknecht, said the request to remove the hat came after an older student made a remark about the cap.

      “They told me to take my hat off because it brings negative emotions to the other children who don’t like [Trump],” Autry told 11Alive.

      • sharculese

        Ideally, we should be giving kids more control over their right to express themselves in school than the current max in control allows for.

        At the same time, I’m sympathetic to the administration here, who are right to say that it’s a message that might make some students feel unsafe in school.

        What to do with school-aged kids is a complicated judgement call, and this is not exception, but I’m gonna veer on the side of ‘don’t let this racist kid wear his racist hat.’

        • Cassiodorus

          Is it normal for kids to be allowed to wear baseball caps in school? I know it definitely wasn’t when I was in school, which wasn’t that many years ago.

          • Murc

            … your school didn’t allow baseball caps? Did you go to private school?

            Damn near half the students at my school had them on. I wore one for a couple years until I figured out it didn’t look right with my hair. Had the Batman symbol on it. Most people wore won with their favorite sports team or something.

            • efgoldman

              … your school didn’t allow baseball caps?

              A my (public, co-ed) school, no-one dreamt of wearing baseball caps – or jeans, or shorts – to class. Many of the boys voluntarily wore sport coats and ties.
              But I am very, very old.

            • busker type

              at my rural public highschool in the 90s it was something like 2/3 of every teacher’s job to tell boys to take off their hats in school. not allowed. god knows why.

              • Brad Nailer

                Because it’s simply bad manners and always has been.

            • Jordan

              Not at my (public) high school. No hats whatsoever.

            • alex284

              No hats in my school. late 90’s, public school, suburban Indianapolis.

              We weren’t particularly formal, but, I don’t know, people understood that you don’t wear hats in class.

            • elm

              In my public elementary school in NJ in the 80s, boys could not wear baseball caps, though girls could. (Boys also couldn’t wear shorts, though girls could.) At my high school, not hats at all were allowed in doors. I can’t remember what the rules were in middle school.

          • tsam

            In 1984-1987, we were free to wear hats if we wanted to. Some of asshole teachers would make kids remove them in class, but most of the time the faculty paid attention to things that actually matter.

            • N__B

              In 1982, men without hats were big news.

              • Scott Lemieux
                • N__B

                  Their first big hit was in the fall I was a freshman; they had a US tour cancelled for lack of interest in the spring of my senior year. I hated their music, but they basically defined my undergraduate years.

                • tsam

                  Would you have liked them if they were with hats?

                • N__B

                  No. I might have liked them if they had all been trepanned.

                • tsam

                  Never heard that song. I was rally enjoying never having heard that song. I don’t like it.

                • tsam

                  Well, I’m sorry to hear that. You can still dance if you want to though.

                • JMP

                  Their first big hit? With a one-hit wonder, shouldn’t it just be “their big hit”?

                • GeoX

                  Surprisingly few bands that people call “one-hit wonders” actually fit that definition. Men without Hats is no exception.

                • The Temporary Name

                  I have a cheap synthesizer around and when I start playing Pop Goes the World my daughter yells STOP IT THAT’S ANNOYING.

                • Scott Lemieux

                  Never heard that song. I was rally enjoying never having heard that song. I don’t like it.

                  Several friends saw them play live at a festival the summer that came out and said they sounded even worse than the record. I find that hard to believe, but…

                • Malaclypse

                  I’m a reasonable man, so I know that video is a hallucination brought on by insomnia, fever, and Nyquil.

                • los

                  tube uploader name is “cyberhat” :-)

                  the vocal is not grunge.
                  drums are weakly grunge; could be anything else.
                  the guitar isn’t detuned (enough?).

                  but then, smashing pumpkins wasn’t/weren’t grunge…
                  also, finding forerunners is always fragile. They are never quite “right”.

                  men without hats had one weird sounding (hyper underwhelming production) hit that I recall, “ghosts… and fade away..”

                • rea

                  The frontman in that video appears to be wearing a hat?

                • Caepan

                  I remember hearing that song on the radio when I was heading home from a weekend initiation for transferring college students. My first thought on hearing it was, “Well, this proves it. Rock is dead. Had a nice run, though.”

                  It took about two years to prove me wrong.

          • dr. fancypants

            The one thing I’m still mildly proud of from high school is getting away with wearing my Black Flag baseball cap in my sophomore yearbook photo. (We very much were not supposed to wear hats for yearbook photos, though they were fine to wear in school otherwise.)

          • alex284

            lol, that’s my first thought. Kids wearing hats in school… at all?

      • Warren Terra

        It’s interesting: apparently the Courts have long recognized the rights of students to express a political opinion (though not to be incoherently offensive, as in Bong Hits 4 Jesus). But: is Trump gear political, or is it a bullying celebration of bigotry? Given that Trump is the Republican nominee you probably have to say it’s politics and not necessarily hate, at least officially, and so it’d be wrong to deny this kid his SturmTrumper regalia, but it’s a tough one.

        • Murc

          I’d have to say that the kid should be able to wear his hat. Expressing support for an active political candidate by wearing an article of everyday clothing with an anodyne political slogan on it has got to be considered protected speech, I think. Hell, I thought the Bong Hits 4 Jesus kids should have had their speech protected.

          Basically I usually come down on the side of “the powers that be should be prevented from regulating speech” more often than not, even if it’s shit I find vile, because in my opinion history has shown that what tends to happen is you’re far more likely to get people freaking out and kicking kids out for wearing black armbands or pride necklaces than you are for people to freak out and kick kids out because they’ve got the paraphernalia of a racist demagogue on.

          • efgoldman

            Expressing support for an active political candidate by wearing an article of everyday clothing with an anodyne political slogan on it has got to be considered protected speech

            “David Duke for Governor”?
            “Build that Wall”?
            Traitor State Flag?

            • Murc

              Those are all examples of speech that makes someone a pretty bad person but should still probably be protected, yes.

          • Warren Terra

            For me the big issues with “Bong Hits 4 Jesus” were (1) it wasn’t clear to me it was sufficiently offensive to generate a strong response, and (2) kid wasn’t in school when he held the sign, but was punished by the school. If he’d engaged in graffiti tagging or petty theft over the weekend, would the school have punished him?

        • los

          jesus 4 gong hits would have been noisier

        • Matt McIrvin

          Hmm… it’s kind of like the legal defense of suppressing the black vote on the grounds that blacks mostly vote Democratic and trying to suppress the Democratic vote is not racist at all.

      • trollhattan

        “Bong hits for Trump”

        • los

          hit trumps dong 4 jesus

          • los

            (trump’s)

  • Philip

    A clearly irritated Trump told his supporters to attack journalists who ask questions about the lawsuit and his comments about the judge.

    “The people asking the questions—those are the racists,” Trump said. “I would go at ’em.”

    Suggesting a broader campaign against the media, Trump said the campaign should also actively criticize television reporters. “I’d let them have it,” he said, referring to those who Trump portrayed as hypocrites.

    He has literally become Gamergate. Oh my god.

    • howard

      i sincerely doubt that he has anyone around him who can possibly say “you know, sir, with all due respect, this may not be a winner.”

      • rea

        They tried; he told the press his aides were stupid, and doubled down

    • Peterr

      “All your base are belong to us!”

      /Trump

      • Snarki, child of Loki

        “All your base are belong to us!”

        /Trump

        At last, the CAT anti-human agenda creeps into the light. Should have known they were the ones behind Trump, don’t let all that ‘purring’ and ‘cuteness’ fool you, people!

    • gmack

      Actually, it’s about ethics in political journalism.

      • Warren Terra

        Actually, it’s about ethnics in politics and adjudication.

        • busker type

          ahem… Mexico is not a race. or a game. Mexico is not a contest of any kind.

    • apogean

      “Now I am become Gamergate, destroyer of women.”

    • He became the destroyer of words a long time ago.

      • weirdnoise

        “A man of few words. And he says them over and over.”

  • Todd

    Other phrases Trump ordered his surrogates to begin using:

    1. “Tidal wave of immigrants” – when referring to the federal judiciary

    2. “Estado Indiana”

    3. “War of Northern Aggression” – can be used as a substitute for any answer

    • “Rivers of Blood”

    • AMK

      Stab In The Back

    • Schadenboner

      #WhiteGenocide

      • JMP

        And “cuck”, although they’re already using that one.

        • los

          small-handed cuck
          (oh, pour it on)

  • keta

    This whole Curiel contretemps points up a much bigger problem:

    Republicans working to elect Trump describe a bare-bones effort debilitated by infighting, a lack of staff to carry out basic functions, minimal coordination with allies and a message that’s prisoner to Trump’s momentary whims.
    “Bottom line, you can hire all the top people in the world, but to what end? Trump does what he wants,” a source close to the campaign said.

    It seems Trump’s victory in the GOP primary is akin to him discovering his reflection in a pool of water, and he now can’t do much else but adore his own image.

    • Warren Terra

      you can hire all the top people in the world

      I was struck by a recent report that Trump’s paying the men on his campaign staff 60% more than Clinton is paying her staffers, on average. He’s even paying the women on his campaign staff 20% more than Clinton is paying her staffers! So he can afford the top people, especially the top men!

      (other figures of note: 28% of Trump’s campaign staff are women, versus 53% of Clinton’s; Clinton’s female and male staffers make the same money, on average; 8% of Trump’s staffers are identifiable as ethnic minorities, against 25% of Clinton’s; and Clinton’s staff is more than 5 times larger than Trump’s.

      • sharculese

        So you’re saying he’s got men working on this? Top men?

        • The Temporary Name

          Top. Men.

          • Honoré De Ballsack

            Top. Ramen.

            • tsam

              Top. Gun.

              You’re on the highway. The highway to THE DANGER ZONE

        • Binders of them. Or at least, Binder.

          • N__B

            Or Bender.

            • Buggrit.

              • Hogan

                Millennium hand and shrimp.

              • Brad Nailer

                The Patrician is not pleased.

      • keta

        Interesting piece. Thanks for this.

      • CD

        If HRC becomes President can we pay her less?

        • Warren Terra

          We save on Secret Service protection, right? Because we’d be paying for Bill Clinton’s security detail and paying to protect the First Spouse, and now it’s the same person.

      • los

        Trump even claimed to have hired Clinton…

      • los

        Clinton’s staff is more than 5 times larger than Trump’s
        (we can assume that Clinton’s are pros. also assume equal SuperPAC armaments.) This will wipeout Trump.

        • los

          same link:
          The campaign is bringing on a new senior staffer Jim Murphy, as first reported by The New York Times, and a source said more communications hires are expected to follow. But they lag far behind the Clinton campaign, which has over a dozen senior staff dedicated to communications as well as teams devoted to modern data and analytics, an area where Trump is publicly skeptical of hiring.
          Using mathematics different than math Wharton taught Trump, but how can Trump lack respect for tech?

          In addition, Clinton enjoys support from established super PACs like Correct The Record and American Bridge that respond to attacks and promote opposition research.

          When will the GOP get Trump up to speed…?

      • alex284

        But I keep on hearing that Trump’s staff is huge.

        • rea

          A different thing altogether than Hillary’s staff. And huge? Not really–look at those hands!

    • Wapiti

      To me it’s mind-boggling: this guy is asking his political surrogates to get involved the public shouting over a business lawsuit.

      His staffer might have told them to not discuss the court case because his lawyers told her that it was dangerous for all of them.

      • Lost Left Coaster

        Oh my god his lawyers on the Trump U case must be having conniption fits over this shit. I do not envy them, no matter how much money they’re making.

        • Mellano

          They can always resign. If that blankety judge lets them.

        • efgoldman

          Oh my god his lawyers on the Trump U case must be having conniption fits over this shit. I do not envy them, no matter how much money they’re making.

          My understanding (from posts here and elsewhere) is that the lawyers are OK, just building billable hours, unless they repeat the shit in court. Then they are in deep deep doodoo.
          Of course, being that they work for Trump and the opossum on his head, I doubt they’ll ever get paid for all those hours.

          • tsam

            Trump probably already has a bankruptcy attorney on retainer

            • erick

              Smart lawyers would make him pay up every week

              • los

                in advance. money order.

            • weirdnoise

              This is why I cast a jaundiced eye on the claim that he’s paying his staffers more than Clinton. I doubt they will be with him long enough for that to make any difference, and there is a good chance that their final check (which will likely include back pay) won’t clear.

              Trump is notorious for shorting his contractors and, when they ask for the agreed amount, saying “Well, sue me.”

    • los

      lack of staff to carry out basic functions
      Now THAT is disgusting

  • The Temporary Name
  • efgoldman

    “We will overcome,” Trump said

    For that alone he should be struck by lightning.

    • Peterr

      Lightning is too good for him.

      What he needs is to suffer humiliations galore — to be fought “to the pain” rather than “to the death.”

      In short, mock him.

      Mock him ruthlessly.
      Mock him relentlessly.
      Mock him repeatedly.
      Mock him resoundingly.

      Let the laughter of the crowds echo in his perfect ears from the moment he rises until he falls asleep, and let the laughter of the crowds haunt him in his dreams.

      Mock him.

      Imagine the 30 second ad . . .

      clip of MLK speaking
      clip of civil rights meeting singing “We Shall Overcome”
      clip of Bull Connor’s firehoses and dogs being turned on protesters, as the song continues
      clip of Bloody Sunday on the Edmund Pettus Bridge, as the song continues
      clip of Donald Trump, uttering one of his more racist comments, with the sound fading into the civil rights singers ‘overcoming’ his rhetoric with the power of their song.
      clip of Donald Trump uttering another of his more racist comments, with the song overcoming his rhetoric again.
      finish with a choir of contemporary singers of all kinds — African Americans, Hispanics, same-sex couples, disabled vets, etc. — with Bernie and Hillary as well.

      The song ends, and the camera zooms in on one of the choir members: “We know a little about what it means to overcome. Donald, you may want to take notes.”

      • Malaclypse

        Mock him ruthlessly.
        Mock him relentlessly.
        Mock him repeatedly.
        Mock him resoundingly.

        Allow me to introduce you to Senator Professor Warren’s Twitter feed.

        • Judas Peckerwood

          I love her more with each passing day.

          • Malaclypse

            I’m willing to bet that when Donald finally loses his shit and goes full c-word, it will be about the good Senator Professor, and not Clinton. I half-suspect that’s her goal.

            • Peterr

              You may only half-suspect that this is her goal, but I’m damn sure of it.

              But as long as we’re talking about betting, I’d guess that somewhere in Senator Professor’s offices, there is a staffer running a pool as to when the yuuuuuuge meltdown will occur.

            • Captain Oblivious

              This is what proxies do in campaigns. She’s just way better at this than most. Of course, she’s got a trainload of material to work with here.

              • sharculese

                Warren is almost uniquely positioned for this. Not only is she a high level Dem who gets a lot of respect, but she’s one of the few who is gifted at engaging in Trump’s natural habitat: Twitter.

                • Captain Oblivious

                  Good point. Most politicians can’t make their point in 200 words, let alone 144 characters.

                • CD

                  She’s got the tone dialed in just right, which is really hard … and not something academia prepares you for.

                  I would follow her anywhere.

                • N__B

                  Most politicians can’t make their point in 200 words, let alone 144 characters.

                  That’s a gross generalization.

                • efgoldman

                  Not only is she a high level Dem who gets a lot of respect, but she’s one of the few who is gifted at engaging in Trump’s natural habitat: Twitter.

                  And she’s not running for anything until 2018, so she doesn’t have that to protect. And Twitter wasn’t really a thing, not at this level, in 2012.

                • weirdnoise

                  And, she’s a woman. Trump’s misogyny is so reflexive that his jerking knee will knock him unconscious.

          • los

            I’ve seen effective tweets from Clinton’s account. Whoever writes them is better than months ago. (Or I’m seeing retweets by better retweeters)
            Also, Trump is an easy target for ridicule…

        • Peterr

          I’m well acquainted with it already — a true gem, that needs to be shared widely.

      • Linnaeus

        In short, mock him.

        Careful. Jonathan Chait and Jonathan Haidt will have a sad because of the political correctness.

      • tsam

        Football to the Nutz. Otherwise GTFO

    • dmsilev

      “We will overcome,” Trump said

      The sources misheard. Trump actually said “we will overcomb”. Easy mistake to make.

    • Shouldn’t that be “We shall overcomb”?

    • los

      Trump: We will overcome
      Rubio: “Donald will overcompensate for his small fingers.”

  • MacK

    Now that Trump has got everyone from McCain to Ryan to endorse him, it’s worth noting what I said to a Republican I know a few weeks ago:

    Endorsing Trump is like tying an already “whiffy” dead fish around your neck – it’s already going off, and it will just smell worse and worse, until, finally , people are disgusted to be around you. And then you have to answer the inevitable questions – Why would you tie a dead fish around your neck? Didn’t you know it would smell? Don’t you know fish goes off? Do you like the smell of rotting fish? Do you believe in wearing rotting fish? What’s wrong with you…..? But the worst thing is after weeks, you personally will no longer be able to smell the fish – it will be normal to you – and people will have to yell at you, “you smell of rotting fish! You’re disgusting!”

    And finally when you want to take it off – “yech, you still smell of rotting fish … get out of here.” And once you remove the fish, you’ll start to smell it again, in your clothes, your furniture, your car – and you’ll be mortified. And before anyone will let you back into polite company you’ll have to burn your entire wardrobe, disinfect or reupholster the remaining furniture, and you’ll always have to deal with people worried about your taste for the smell of rotting fish.

    • howard

      it’s already happening: the new line from gop electeds is that they want to talk about more or less anything else!

    • twbb

      Maybe they realized that supporting GWB didn’t really tank their reputations as it would in any just universe.

      What I really don’t understand is the diffident support for Trump. I can understand going all in to get him elected in order to hopefully reap the benefits of a GOP President in the short term. Alternately, I can understand refusing to support him in order to look principled and statesmanlike in the long term.

      What I don’t understand is endorsing him but constantly hedging about it. That loses you any short term AND long term benefits.

      • Captain Oblivious

        Follow the money. The Koch money, the Adelson money, the Singer money…

      • The typical GOP rep/senator/gov can’t realistically endorse anyone else, and (I guess) feels a lukewarm endorsement is better than no endorsement at all.

        Maybe they think the tepid endorsement of Trump will steal some of his fire, get some of the angry rabble on their side in November (if their seat is up). I’m assuming most GOP seats are safe enough that a tepid endorsement of Trump can’t possibly hurt them in November.

        • The Temporary Name

          Let ’em endorse! Gives the opposition material.

      • John Revolta

        Maybe they realized that supporting GWB didn’t really tank their reputations as it would in any just universe.

        They ran Sarah Palin and got away with it…………………

        • los

          but Trump is a man

    • Pseudonym

      The fact that they’re willing to tie Trump around their necks just proves how bad Clinton must be!

      • los

        Without trying, I have found convincingly conservative (yay Cruz!) conservatives declaring that to deter Trump, they will vote for Hillary.. not Gary Johnson

    • alex284

      Yes. If there is one thing we’ve learned about American politics in the 21st century, it’s that politicians who make unpopular decisions are held accountable for them.

      • weirdnoise

        They’d be held accountable if doing so raised advertising revenue for the news media. But everything has to be bothsidesdoit or they won’t touch it — so they don’t.

  • sum goy

    When former Arizona Governor Jan Brewer interrupted the discussion to inform Trump that his own campaign had asked surrogates to stop talking about the lawsuit in an e-mail on Sunday, Trump repeatedly demanded to know who sent the memo, and immediately overruled his staff.
    “Take that order and throw it the hell out,” Trump said.
    Told the memo was sent by Erica Freeman, a staffer who circulates information to surrogates, Trump said he didn’t know her. He openly questioned how the campaign could defend itself if supporters weren’t allowed to talk.

    He admitted he didn’t know his own staffer, who handles surrogates, while talking to his surrogates?

    • postmodulator

      In his defense, he was probably lying.

    • Warren Terra

      He knows staffers who don’t actually exist, it just makes sense he’d not know some who do.

      • junker

        What if it turns out this memo was actually written by Trump masquerading as a staffer? And it turns out he completely forgot this and was unknowingly berating himself? And he actually has dissociative identity disorder?

        The crazy thing about this theory is it wouldn’t be shocking if it were true.

    • scott_theotherone

      “Don’t worry, Mister Trump: John Barron and John Miller both vouched for her.”

    • weirdnoise

      His staffer was probably told to send the memo by one of his strategists who then, Trump-like, quickly threw her under the bus. “You’re fired!”

  • Alex.S

    Fun how the Republican party was reassuring people a few weeks ago that Trump will surround himself with intelligent people he’ll take advice from.

    • ploeg

      That might have been barely possible if they had hung tough on their threat to contest the convention, let Trump know that they could job him eight ways to Sunday unless he played ball, and forced him to come to terms with them.

      Yes, I know, not very likely at all. But how’s simply rolling over working out for them.

      • busker type

        yeah but… David French! how can he ignore this totally credible threat!

    • MAJeff

      Fun how the Republican party was reassuring people a few weeks ago that Trump will surround himself with intelligent people he’ll take advice from.

      I remember that line from 16 years ago. Didn’t work out well that time.

      • Trump will surround himself with intelligent people he’ll take advice from.

        There could be any number of savant midgets packed into that human-shaped skin. He is large, he contains multitudes.

        • weirdnoise

          A case of political megacolon.

    • Captain Oblivious

      The five intelligent people remaining in the Republican party are smart enough not to work for him.

      • efgoldman

        The five intelligent people remaining in the Republican party are smart enough not to work for him.

        Name them, or you made it up.

        • tsam

          Itchy, scratchy, sneezy, dopey, ren and stimpy.

          DONE

          • Schadenboner

            Beavis, Butthead, Poochie

        • Captain Oblivious

          Guilty. I cannot name five intelligent Republicans. In fact, I cannot name one. This includes my brother, who has an IQ of about a bazillion and is a briliant engineer, but a complete fucking idiot about everything else.

          • los

            some are efficient, but morally empty.

            I can think of one conservative, Norm Ornstein, who seems sane.

        • elm

          Bruce Bartlett, though he may have renounced the party by now. I also know some non-famous Republicans who are smart. None of them are voting for Trump, though.

  • twbb

    Should Hillary win, I know a particularly schadenfreudy pick for the next SCOTUS opening…

    • howard

      why would you want to make that nice man who has worked so hard the last 8 years sit in a room with clarence thomas and sam alito for years to come?

      • los

        make Alito and Thomas sit in a room with That Man, until Alito and Thomas retire.

      • twbb

        Oh I was suggesting Curiel, which is admittedly not as schadenfreudy as the Kenyan Socialist.

  • Hells Littlest Angel

    I love watching Trump self-destruct as much as anyone, but I wish he’d fucking pace himself. Wait for the coronation convention, Little Gloves.

    • postmodulator

      +XLI

    • CrunchyFrog

      It’s really been an amazing couple of weeks for Trump. Two weeks ago the left – including me – were getting very concerned as it appeared this guy might actually be able to win. Flash forward two weeks and I’m now wondering if he’ll suspend his campaign before the convention – and also getting very curious about GOP rules for replacing the winner of the primaries, whether before, during, or after the convention.

      I do think that the difference is that he’s won the primaries, and that the standard is different. If he’d made the same comment about the Mexican judge back when he made the McCain comment – and for all I know he did – it would have blown over in a couple of days like the McCain comment did. The GOP base loves that shit, and everyone else in the media and GOP leadership (but I repeat myself) figured he’d be a flash-in-the-pan, so they were happy to drop the issue and move on. Now, everyone has to treat him as a possible president, so the standard is different, and the GOP leadership knows that pissing off Latinos is a terrific way to lose elections for a long time to come in large parts of the US.

      • Hells Littlest Angel

        No way Trump quits voluntarily before the convention. He sees it as the greatest moment of his life. You just know that every night he puts on his gown and tiara and struts up and down in front of a mirror.

        • tsam

          “Would you fuck me? I’d fuck me”

          • IT RUBS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN

            • Captain Oblivious

              Hey man, where’d you get that looooo-shun.

          • los

            “And I’d fuck me better than anyone fucks me. Believe me.”

      • CD

        Be prepared for half a dozen more swings in the conventional wisdom before November.

        • Matt McIrvin

          Yeah, the polls are not appreciably more lopsided than they were through most of 2012, when there was more than one period in which Romney seemed like he could pull it off.

      • ploeg

        In Trump’s own mind he’s doing great. If he ever gets a notion that he’s not doing so well, he’ll just fire a couple of staffers and that will take care of it.

        Hell, Romney thought that he was winning until the very end. Why would we think that Trump would less oblivious than Romney?

        • Schadenboner

          Disagree a bit. Romney (w/r/t the polls) was a victim of epistemic closure, an otherwise pretty damn smart guy who was convinced by his environment to beleive stupid things.

          This is not Trump’s issue.

          • Donalbain

            Who does Trump have that will

            1) Give him bad news and 2) Be listened to?

            • petesh

              1) Nobody not wearing a uniform and carrying a warrant (except Keith Richards’ personal emissary)
              2) Nobody at all not backed up by large men with multiple implements of destruction

      • Dr. Ronnie James, DO

        Trump apparently was making these types of statements about this judge back in April, but it wasn’t widely reported.

  • wjts

    “Are there any other stupid letters that were sent to you folks?” Trump said. “That’s one of the reasons I want to have this call, because you guys are getting sometimes stupid information from people that aren’t so smart.”

    “…and what you need is to get all the times stupid information from one person that aren’t so smart.”

  • John F

    There were multiple points in the GOP primary (early on) where I thought, “this is [finally] it, he’s imploding…” Never happened.

    It CAN’T happen now IMHO, the GOP is gonna get in line, no matter how many of them have to hold their noses while doing so- that’s not the question-

    this is the question:

    His National favorable polling is no higher now than it was back on September 1, 2015

    HRC’s polling has been trending down for SIX years and is still higher than Trump’s ceiling (that chart covers 8 years- if you collapse it to 1 year her polling has been flat since September 2015 as well- he’s not gaining on her, he really is not.

    What has happened over the past 8 months is that Trump’s favorable rating has improved among Republicans and dropped among everyone else, leaving him where he started.

    Trump may (fingers crossed) have a ceiling he can’t breach in a general- he had one in the GOP primary- but it wasn’t hard- it had some give and was high enough for him to take a plurality under GOP primary rules..

    • Trump may (fingers crossed) have a ceiling he can’t breach in a general

      That would be the Ass Ceiling, I presume.

    • cpinva

      “It CAN’T happen now IMHO, the GOP is gonna get in line, no matter how many of them have to hold their noses while doing so- that’s not the question-“

      assumes facts not in evidence. there is no proof of them having “to hold their noses” while expressing their support of him. why should there be, he is the entire GOP, in the raw.

      • los

        he is the entire GOP, in the raw.
        and that’s why Trump will (unless extraordinary things happen) lose the GOP’s chance at wining 2016 Presidential election (and will lose some down-ballot elections)
        With Trump, Post-Carter conservatives have finally realized they’ve been painting themselves into a corner.

  • For a while there I had concern about Trump, but now I don’t think he’s going to make it to November. I really don’t.

    • CrunchyFrog

      Agree. Wondering now if he lasts long enough to pick his VP, since that’s whose likely to be debating Clinton in October.

      • Captain Oblivious

        Short of a complete mental breakdown (and how could we tell) or some other catastrophe, or fresh and even more disturbing developments in the Trump U case, I think he’s in it until November, even if Ryan and Priebus have to force-feed him ludes and prop him up in front of the cameras.

        • I dunno. I really feel like he’s just going to either quit or resign.

      • los

        oh oh oh! sarah 4 prezidint!!

        “Sumday youll have brayins as me and Donnold Trump am.”
        Ernest T. Blogger

  • Linnaeus

    My employer just sprung for some business cards for me. Mind you, I’ve been working there nearly 5 years, so I never thought I would see him do that.

    • CrunchyFrog

      They are useful as luggage tags and as a ritual at a project kickoff meeting with older folks. Of course, in the latter case they get thrown away immediately after the meeting, but it makes you seem professional to the folks who remember when that was how contact info was passed around.

      • Linnaeus

        Yeah, I doubt I’ll go through very many of them at all, but I have to say I liked getting them.

      • There was a period, while I was traveling by air much more than I do (or want to do) now, when I could hardly walk down an airport corridor without seeing ads for a Nifty Gizmo for letting one scan and organize all the business cards one has accumulated or will accumulate in the future. Is that still a thing? Was it ever a thing?

        • Linnaeus

          It’s a thing, but it’s been internet-ized. There are a number of applications, e.g., Evernote, that can scan business cards and make the text searchable.

      • Dennis Orphen

        Since email address and cell phone numbers rarely change, if ever anymore, my old business cards for positions I no longer hold are still pretty useful. Okay, start with the puns about the positions held.

        • cpinva

          nah, low hanging fruit.

          • efgoldman

            nah, low hanging fruit.

            Wheb did that ever stop anyone here?

  • LeeEsq

    Is Trump chaotic evil or neutral evil?

    • Linnaeus

      I’d say neutral evil. He’s authoritarian enough to not be chaotic evil, but quixotic enough to not be lawful evil.

      • LeeEsq

        He definitely isn’t lawful by any stretch. His self-interest makes him very neutral evil but he is also very wild in his actions and as a sort of sick jokester mentality suggesting chaotic evil.

        • Honoré De Ballsack

          All the Good and Evil alignments involve focused devotion to some kind of actual ethos. I’d say Trump is more Chaotic Neutral–i.e., basically “do whatever you feel like doing at the moment.”

          • LeeEsq

            Trump has shown a bit too much malice to count as chaotic neutral. Chaotic neutral people might be wildly unpredictable but they act without malice or ill will in most cases.

            • Honoré De Ballsack

              From http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chaotic%20Neutral :

              Chaotic neutral characters follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but do not strive to protect the freedom of others. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions. Chaotic neutral characters don’t intentionally disrupt organizations as part of a campaign of anarchy. To do so, they would have to be motivated either by good (a desire to help people) or by evil (a desire to hurt people).

              Chaotic neutral characters may be unpredictable, but their behavior is not totally random – they are not as likely to jump off a bridge as to cross it. However, they do act on momentary whims, and are known to be unreliable. As some would say, “the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!”

              At least in the games I ran back in the 1980s, “Chaotic Neutral” meant “do whatever you see as being in your own self-interest at the moment.” Of the nine possible options, I think that one is the closest to describing Trump.

              • Chaotic Neutral, aka “I never want to lose an argument about whether my character is acting out of alignment.” I wonder if any of the big online tabletop sites like roll20 have data sufficient to determine the popularity of the 9 alignments. My intuition is that Chaotic Good is the most popular. You get to be a hero, but you don’t have to follow any rules! I always think lawful alignments are more fun for that reason.

                • wjts

                  I think your intuition is sound. The most fun I ever had playing an alignment was a Lawful Neutral cleric whose religion (a death cult whose ultimate goal was to kill everybody, including themselves) had all sorts of inane rules. And also forbade healing the grievously wounded on account of how they’d probably be dead soon.

              • Linnaeus

                Maybe CN with evil tendencies, then.

            • JonH

              From Wikipedia:
              “A neutral evil character is typically selfish and has no qualms about turning on its allies-of-the-moment, and usually makes allies primarily to further their own goals.”

              When former Arizona Governor Jan Brewer interrupted the discussion to inform Trump that his own campaign had asked surrogates to stop talking about the lawsuit in an e-mail on Sunday, Trump repeatedly demanded to know who sent the memo, and immediately overruled his staff.
              “Take that order and throw it the hell out,” Trump said.
              Told the memo was sent by Erica Freeman, a staffer who circulates information to surrogates, Trump said he didn’t know her. He openly questioned how the campaign could defend itself if supporters weren’t allowed to talk.

          • Malaclypse

            Sat what you will about the tenets of Cthulhuism, but at least it’s an ethos.

      • JonH

        Neutral evil but he’s spent too much time on Limbo and he’s at risk of an alignment shift.

        Then again perhaps he’s a polymorphed green slaad.

      • Schadenboner

        The Law/Chaos axis refers to obedience/lack-of-obedience to external codes of conduct, not willingness to enforce such codes on underlings.

        Now, CE* is essentially psychotic so I agree Trump is NE but NE as a diagnosis-of-exclusion.

        *: While I’m on the subject, any chaotic alignment is this. Your “CG Wood Elf Ranger”? He’s a completely unreliable asshole, not Robin Hood. Get over yourself.

        Also, fuck CN and the players of CNs with rusty spoons.

        • JonH

          I would think Lawful types would tend to prefer some level of compliance by underlings, with the amount of deviation they are willing to tolerate and the methods of discipline they use to obtain compliance being dependent on where they are on the G-N-E spectrum.

          The Planescape setting expanded things by having both alignments and factions, with factions being groups with shared philosophies. Members of a faction could be of various alignments, with good and evil members having different ideas of how to further the goals of the faction.

    • wjts

      Chaotic incompetent.

      ETA: I think that’s the wrong paradigm. His affinity for spurious logic, willingness to gainsay something he said five seconds ago if he thinks it will be to his advantage, and total misunderstanding of economics means he’s a Troubleshooter, Secret Society Free Enterprise. Mutant power TBD.

      • Malaclypse

        I’m waiting for him to hold aloft a shiny Golden Apple while yelling out “I am the prettiest one!”

        • Snarki, child of Loki

          That only happens after the scrum on the GOP convention stage.

          • Malaclypse

            From your lips to what passes for Yog Sottoth’s ears.

        • LeeEsq

          Wasn’t that his primary strategy essentially? Rubio was Aphrodite, Cruz Hera, and Kaisch Athena.

      • junker

        +1 violet level clearance.

        Though, imagining Trump as Friend Computer and his campaign as Alpha Complex makes a substantial amount of sense.

        • wjts

          Sounds about right. From keta’s link above: “Republicans working to elect Trump describe a bare-bones effort debilitated by infighting, a lack of staff to carry out basic functions, minimal coordination with allies and a message that’s prisoner to Trump’s momentary whims.”

          If he starts talking about building a wall around the food vats in ARZ Sector or deploying Vulture Squadrons to seize the oil fields in The Outdoors, we’ll know for sure. Either way, stock up on popcorn and beer CrunchyTyme Algae Chips and Bouncy Bubble Beverage – it’s a long time til NovemberCycle, Citizen!

      • Linnaeus

        I never played Paranoia.

        • Snarki, child of Loki

          …that’s just what you THINK.

          LARP Paranoia: you’re soaking in it.

          • Linnaeus

            Mind. Blown.

        • You would say that, wouldn’t you?

      • NonyNony

        Can I just say that I love all you nerds? What other blog on the Internets will give me totally accurate Paranoia refs as election commentary?

      • LeeEsq

        My very academic driven public high school that sent many students to elite universities and nearly everybody to high education of some type had a surprisingly low number of true nerds who played RPGs. Scientists are still trying to figure this one out.

        • The Dark God of Time

          When I was at the Harvard of the Midwest, we had D&D players who met in the basement of my dorm on Friday nights.

          My very academic driven school had 7 Merit Scholars out of a graduating class of 600, a few years before Prop 13 was passed here in CA.

        • My very academic driven public high school that was a lot like yours sent forth the person who coined the name GURPS, the Great Unnamed Role-Playing System. He also invented the turning key used in Car Wars.

      • Oh, neat, Paranoia fans. I’ve always wanted to play it. Does anyone have a recommendation as to which edition? I understand that there’s one that’s so loathed that it’s essentially been memory holed (so appropriate), but that leaves a few.

        • Ken

          The first rule of Paranoia is that you don’t talk about Paranoia.

        • wjts

          The so-called Fifth Edition (actually third) is the one that was “uneditioned”. I’ve only played Second Edition.

      • Trump’s mutant power: Feign hair.

    • Dennis Orphen

      What about his attribute scores, or whatever they were called (it’s been a long, long time since I used to visit The Dungeon in Lake Geneva weekly, attended GenCons at UW-Parkside, spend weekend nights sitting around big oval tables with people way older and weirder than me…) for

      Strength
      Constitution
      Charisma
      Intelligence
      Wisdom

      Were there others? I’m not going to google it, feeling old fashioned tonight…..

      • wjts

        Dexterity.

        • Dennis Orphen

          With those fingers I would give him less than 10.

  • Cheerful

    Well nobody else had godwined, so allow me. Trump’s new similarity to Hitler is in their overestimation of their genius after early victories. For Trump, the Republican primaries were like annexing Czechoslovakia and invading France, risky moves that paid off incredibly and left everybody astounded.

    But the general election is more like invading Russia, a greater slog, and Trump doesn’t realize it, and some of his generals are still bedazzled by his luck so far, and the others dare not say anything, out of fear of being savagely scorned.

    Of course with this contretemps over the judge, it’s as if Trump declared war on America at the same time as invading Russia. He doesn’t seem to have even Hitler’s level of strategic thinking.

    • AMK

      So Hillary is Stalin in this analogy? Makes sense to half the country…after all, she purged Vince Foster.

      • Schadenboner

        Which makes Bernie Trotsky?

        • los

          Yes, and The Peasants are The Peasants.

    • Dennis Orphen

      In the end he will be hoping the Americans get there before the Russians. Meanwhile, keep burning those papers, they gotta go either way.

    • Well nobody else had godwined, so allow me

      Trump Godwinned himself with “Ride of the Valkyries”. I’m expecting the Republican Party Congress to feature a lot of vertically-pointing searchlights.

      • N__B

        Trump Godwinned himself

        That’s a disgusting enough image even without picturing Wagner playing in the background.

        • He’s always Godwinning! All you atheist detractors are just Godlosers!

          • efgoldman

            +6000 years (roughly)

  • Wapiti

    Instead of Godwin, I’d go with Sun Tsu: It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

    Knowing himself might include realizing that his tax returns stink to high heaven, he’s embroiled in a number of lawsuits that indicate he’s a particularly slimy character, and that he’s a micromanager who probably can’t walk away from his business “empire” for four or eight years.

  • Ken

    So when the crackup finally comes, what do you think it will look like? Lt. Cmdr. Queeg on the stand in The Caine Mutiny? Nora Desmond ready for her closeup in Sunset Boulevard? Norman Bates Norman’s mother in the cell at the end of Psycho?

    • Woodrowfan

      Kylo Ren taking out a console with his lightsabre.

    • John Revolta

      I’m thinking Jimmy Cagney in White Heat when he finds out his Ma is dead.

      Either that, or full-on “Moe! Larry! Cheese!” territory.

      • Caepan

        As long as it’s not like the end of the movie, at the oil refinery.

        “TOP O” THE WORLD, MA! TOP O” THE WORLD!”

        (See? no spoiler alert needed.)

    • dmsilev

      “Say hello to my little finger friend!”

    • Malaclypse

      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.
      All Work And No Play Make Donald A Dull Boy.

      • N__B

        Damn it. I didn’t refresh and got beat by two measly minutes.

    • N__B

      It may be quieter than we think.

      • Malaclypse

        Don’t ever change, friend bear.

    • Shirley someone is re-captioning the Downfall mash-up even now.

    • Hogan

      MADE IT, MA! TOP O’ THE WORLD!

      • N__B

        For some reason, I associate that scene with a quite different one, with Victor McLaglen: Frankie, your mother has forgiven me!

        • cpinva

          nope, Jimmy Cagney in White Heat, as he’s being chased by the cops, and ends up on top of some kind of equipment. can’t remember what, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen the movie. great movie though, and Cagney was, well………..Cagney.

          • N__B

            No, I know. I’m saying that there’s a link in my head between those two very different scenes.

          • efgoldman

            and ends up on top of some kind of equipment. can’t remember what

            A (natural?) gas storage tank, which blows up with him on it — closing credits.

          • Caepan
    • tsam

      Ya coulda been contendah. Instead yeh just a BUM.

  • junker

    Breaking: AP calls Democratic nomination for Clinton:

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-hits-magic-number-delegates-clinch-nomination

    • wjts

      That’s ridiculous – Sanders is going to be the nominee. If Clinton could win the nomination, I’d have seen an animated YouTube rap video about it.

      • junker

        I can’t say with 100% certainly whether the AP viewed those videos before making a decision. Journalistic malpractice at its worst.

        • CD

          Let’s be nice to Senator Sanders’ supporters.

          • wjts

            I am one. I get to say whatever I want about the stupids on my team.

    • NonyNony

      I can only assume that the AP is trying to mess with turnout for down ballot races in CA’s jungle primary system. Vote by mail will probably mitigate it, but it’s still an underhanded bit of ratf*cking by my estimation.

      • Warren Terra

        CA is the west-coast state that isn’t vote-by-mail …

        (ETA and Alaska, I guess. But it’s not really on the West Coast, it’s in that little box at the bottom of the map.)

        • junker
          • Warren Terra

            Apparently a majority of ballots in lower-turnout elections (primaries, midterms) are vote-by-mail. I hadn’t realized that.

            On the other hand: 100% of ballots in WA and OR are vote-by-mail.

            • DrS

              We went over 50% mail in 2012

            • I have had several ballots here (California) where it was all vote-by-mail, but they were like city council and school board. They were recently moved off odd years recently, so I bet I’ll see fewer of them.

            • FWIW, from observation and personal experience, there are still a LOT of people who drop off their mailed ballots on Election Day in Oregon.

          • DrS

            Right, we have it, but don’t other states only have it? IIRC, Oregon os 100% vote by mail.

            It’s been growing in popularity. I’m marked as a permanent absentee, which means I’m really vote by mail. I do often just drop it off at a poll location for my shaming sticker

            • Pseudonym

              You didn’t get a sticker with your vote-by-mail ballot?

              • Schadenboner

                Yes, this. I want My two year old wants to know…

              • DrS

                No!

                Looks like I’ll have to start a ballot proposition.

            • tsam

              Washington is all vote by mail too.

        • Dennis Orphen

          There has been a lot of absentee ballot voting here this year. Primarily, I think, because summer vacations and elections don’t mix well. Like vodka and catsup.

      • junker

        Oh, I don’t think it’s that nefarious. I think the AP just wanted a scoop and this was it.

        • EliHawk

          The ability of people to ignore Occam’s Razor is one of the key features of Primary Season.

        • mikenmar

          Oh yeah, and I’m sure it was just a coincidence they got this “scoop” right on the eve of the California and NJ primaries. Yeah, “scoop”, that’s the ticket… Give me a fucking break.

      • efgoldman

        but it’s still an underhanded bit of ratf*cking by my estimation.

        Occam says it’s just old fashioned “get the story out first”-ism.
        You can say “ratfucking” on this blog.

        • mikenmar

          How’s this for ratfucking. Or was it good old fashioned “get the story out first” ism?:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press#Collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany

          Associated Press entered a formal cooperation with the Hitler’s Nazi Germany in the 1930s, supplying American newspapers with material selected and produced by the Nazi party propaganda ministry. It was able to retain its access by entering into a mutually beneficial two-way cooperation with the Nazi regime. It ceded control of its output by signing up to the Schriftleitergesetz (editor’s law), promising not to publish any material ‘calculated to weaken the strength of the Reich abroad or at home’.

          Schriftleitergesetz required Associated Press to employ reporters who worked for the Nazi party’s propaganda division. One photographer, Franz Roth, was a member of the SS propaganda division, whose photographs were personally chosen by Hitler.

          • Shalimar

            Everyone involved has been dead for generations. Are you arguing that their influence still persists in AP leadership and Hillary is their current favorite Nazi? Or are you flinging shit at the wall and hoping some will stick?

    • cpinva

      what are the odds that the first female presidential candidate would end up facing the likes of Trump, who seems to be diligently working to have the worst presidential election loss in the country’s history?

      • efgoldman

        what are the odds that the first female presidential candidate would end up facing the likes of Trump

        My (35 y.o.) daughter noted tonight that if HRC wins and is re-elected, my granddaughter (three in August), will spend the first eleven years of her life without seeing a white male president. That is a really, really Big Fucking Deal.

    • mikenmar

      So apparently, the AP and the Democratic party have decided they don’t need Californians to vote for Hillary. Here’s my message for them:

      OK, Hillary, fine. You go ahead and win this November without my vote. And you can win it without one red cent of my money too. If you’re going to say “Fuck you Californians,” well then FUCK YOU TOO.

      OH, and one more thing: SEE YOU IN FOUR YEARS. Because I assure you, I will donate the maximum amount allowable to any truly progressive candidate who challenges you.

    • los

      counting SDs before hatched, I’ve read.

  • CD

    So this came up in the Guardian feed:

    http://www.pendletontimespost.com/view/story/e16a8223c24048d290883370dc6abe5b/US–GOP-2016–Trump-University/#.V1YfirgrJaS

    WASHINGTON — Florida’s attorney general personally solicited a political contribution from Donald Trump around the same time her office deliberated joining an investigation of alleged fraud at Trump University and its affiliates

    The new disclosure from Attorney General Pam Bondi’s spokesman to The Associated Press on Monday provides additional details around the unusual circumstances of Trump’s $25,000 donation to Bondi.

    • Malaclypse

      “We now conclude that independent expenditures, including those made by corporations, do not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption.”

      • Ken

        So hypothetically if I were charged with bribery, could I challenge the constitutionality of the law based on that ruling?

        • EliHawk

          Bob McDonnell did. And Scalia dying may well have kept him from winning. Meanwhile, the real question is “Does Florida have some ambitious US Attorneys?”

    • JonH

      “around the same time her office deliberated joining ”

      And decided not to investigate. Thence, the check.

      And similar fuckery happened in Texas.

  • alex284

    I suppose it’s entirely predictable that someone whose understanding of politics has come from rightwing media would think that playing “I know you are, but what am I” would be the winning response.

    But does he even have a reason why journalists are the real racists here? Something? Anything?

    • Pointing out that white people have said or done racist things is the real RACISM that must be universally condemned!!

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