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Shape of the Earth, Views Differ


The cult of false equivalence.

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  • Cuacamonga

    The MSM has not relied on facts since at least the 2000 campaign. However, Refusing to acknowledge Republicans are lying is probably an improvement over iits role in abetting the Iraq war.

    • It goes back further than that. Accepting Ronald Reagan required a willful disregard of facts. More recently, the press/media was required to disregard the facts at several times during the years-long Whitewater “scandal.”

      That this has been a very one-sided disregard of facts makes me sound peevish and partisan. But, it has been a very one-sided disregard of facts.

      • herr doktor bimler

        Wasn’t it the Reagan administration when journalists coined the term “teflon presidency” to describe and account for their collective decision to neglect episodes of incompetence and malfeasance, as if it were an outside limitation on their activity and not a label for their own corrupt laziness?

      • They’re still scared of Agnew’s alliterative prowess in demeaning them.

  • Cuacamonga

    Most of the political journalism in the MSM has not relied on facts since at least the 2000 campaign. However, Refusing to acknowledge that Republicans are lying is probably an improvement over iits role in abetting the Iraq war.

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  • herr doktor bimler

    Earth — negative-curvature pseudosphere, or hyperboloid of revolution?

    • herr doktor bimler

      Come to think of it, “hyperboloid of revolution” is obviously the planet inhabited by pundits who treat any discussion of higher taxes as if it were the outbreak of class war.

      • Ken

        And the setting of Christopher Priest’s The Inverted World.

        • herr doktor bimler

          No, what’s described in “Inverted World” is a pseudosphere.

  • mch

    Every college and university of any integrity should be inviting these two, united as one, to commencement as some sort of commencement speaker/honorary degree duo. (That assumes, of course, that academia hasn’t become a servant of something else.)

    • c u n d gulag

      Academic’s are now being held hostage by know-nothing bureaucrats in every college’s administration.

      There’s an old saying, “Those who can’t do – teach. And those who can’t teach – teach gym.”

      I’d change that to ‘Those who can’t do – teach. And those who can’t teach – become school Administrators, and feck with the people trying to teach.”

      And the real money in College’s, isn’t in teaching. It’s in becoming some high-level Administrator.

      Everyone who graduated over 15-20 years ago, go take a look at what your college looks like now.
      Not the physical appearance, though that will have also changed, but take a look at all of the new levels of administrators there are below the College’s President.

      • Cheap Wino

        Spot on. The university I work at is going through this exact scenario — departments being eliminated, faculty laid off, yearly demands that you have to cut 7-8% out of your budget, etc. All while the administration adds positions and takes less than 0% of the brunt.

      • Sherm

        A close relative who has tought at several large universities told me last year that a lot of the extra administration can be traced to the decrease in state funding — basically, an added layer of bureaucrats chasing down money for the universities which the universities use to get from the state.

        • c u n d gulag

          That makes a lot of sense, Sherm.

          I went to college in from ’76 to ’81, before Reagan’s cuts started, and went back to be an Adjunct Professor the middle of Clinton’s first term.

  • ploeg

    Certainly it doesn’t help when the media organizations in question have their own counter-factual agenda:

    Mann said he was struck in conversations with journalists by how influenced they were by the heavily funded movement to promote a bipartisan consensus around deficit reduction and austerity. Such a bipartisan consensus doesn’t actually exist, Mann pointed out. But if you believe it does, than you can blame both parties for failing to reach it.

    [Wall Street billionaire Peter] Peterson’s vast spending has given rise to an environment of contempt among the Washington elites for anyone who doesn’t believe the government is dangerously overextended. And by that reckoning, the Democrats are therefore more out of touch with reality than Republicans, who at least pay the concept ample lip service.

    • When I become king, first thing we do is burn down all the J-Schools and shred the degrees.

      • cpinva

        throw pete peterson on that pyre, just to be sure.

        • c u n d gulag

          I’d light that pyre of fire with David Gregory’s hair, and toss him on top of Peterson.

      • R. Johnston

        Surely the B-Schools should go before the J-Schools. There’s not a more substantively useless degree around than the MBA. Do we really need a degree in advanced fraternity studies and networking opportunities?

        • On the money. I have had the joy of working for and with MBAs who had no idea what the organization they were working with actually did, but they had a one-size-fits-all bag of tricks to pull out every time a problem arose.

          • Davis X. Machina

            …they had a one-size-fits-all bag of tricks to pull out every time a problem arose.

            Why aren’t they over in the school of education, then? That’s where the local panacea factory is always located.

  • That was a pretty good piece, but it would have been improved if the writer had thought to include some voices who argued that Ornstein didn’t write an editorial criticizing the Republicans, and hasn’t been cast out of the centrist Washington commentariat.

    • Karate Bearfighter

      + an infinite number of turtles, all the way down.

      • Thank you.

        I’m especially proud of “thought to include.”

  • Sherm

    I’m still waiting for someone in the mainstream media to point out that the republican congress has already proven that the republicans were playing fast and loose with the Medicare facts throughout the campaign with their post-election proposal to increase the age requirement.

    • NonyNony

      Clearly that doesn’t matter because FISCAL CLIFF!!! OMG!!! The Republicans are just willing to make the TOUGH CHOICES that the Democrats are too captured by special interests to make!

      • JKTHs

        Democrats are unwilling to touch entitlements…besides that huge Medicare cut in ACA but nevermind that! That didn’t count because it didn’t hurt poor or middle class people.

  • JKTHs

    If Republicans said the earth was flat and Democrats said the earth was round, the press would immediately have to say that both sides are wrong, the earth is actually square, and why can’t we all just come together and agree on that or at least acknowledge that the earth has some flatness to it?

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