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What You Missed At the GOP Debate

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  • First you get the beet sugar.   Then you get the power    Then you get the WOMEN!
  • The GOP is proud of its appalling and extremely unpopular behavior in the Schiavo case.   Also, according to great historian Newt Gingrich apparently Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, and Tony Lazzeri took legal resources that should have been used to file frivolous lawsuits denying Terri Schiavo’s will.
  • I think a “self-deportation” plan that started with these four men would have some promise.
  • Ron Paul still wants to return to the success of VanBurenomics.

…and, seriously, see Clara Jeffrey on “self-deportation.”

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  • Desert Rat

    Heh. I was discussing the South Carolina primary with a friend of mine.

    I described Ron Paul as being the greatest economic mind of the 18th Century, which got a laugh. Sounds like we were channeling the same thoughts.

    • Warren Terra

      I did like it when Ron Paul – who wants a deflationary monetary policy – complained that interest rates had been too low.

      • Desert Rat

        I keep waiting for him to bust out with describing the benefits of mercantilism on a national economy.

    • JohnR

      Ron Paul still wants to return to the success of VanBurenomics.

      Yup – the only real conservative in the bunch…

  • Warren Terra

    Also:
    Newt wants Mitt to pay no taxes.
    Newt wants less regulation on the banks. Mitt agrees, except that he will regulate them himself, the right way.
    Newt and Mitt agree that we need to spend a lot more money on manned spaceflight. Newt thinks Avatar was a documentary.

    • Slocum

      If Gingrich becomes President he’ll spend his entire first term playing dinosaurs with Alvin Toffler in the Oval Office.

      • ajay

        Lots of government stimulus spending, largely in the US, for an end that is (at least) non-destructive, extremely photogenic, and could even produce actual positive benefits as well? Why is manned spaceflight a bad obsession for these people to have, compared with their other obsessions?

        • I’ll second this. We might not end up with beam-me-up-Scotty but there would be some nice tech spin-offs. Of course it’s more public research / private profit, but that’s not only what’s on the table, it is the table, if you see what I mean.

          • Njorl

            There would be a lot of tech spinoffs if we tried to create a viable monkey-bat hybrid, but that doesn’t make it a good idea.

            Manned spaceflight is a low-payoff money hog. It retards scientific progress by diverting money from worthwhile science.

            • Elphaba, Wicked Witch of the West

              There would be a lot of tech spinoffs if we tried to create a viable monkey-bat hybrid, but that doesn’t make it a good idea.

              It makes it the best possible idea!

            • witless chum

              I tend toward the view that putting more people in space mostly doesn’t make sense, at least at this point.

              Robots don’t need anywhere near as much to keep them functioning as astronauts do, meaning you have to cut back other places in your design to make room for luxuries like oxygen and pressurized cabins. You also need some fairly heavy-duty shielding from cosmic rays once you’re outside the atmosphere.

              We might come up with jobs in space that are too complex to be done by robots taking commands over radio from earth, but I don’t think we really have yet.

              • Hogan

                “NASA are idiots. They want to send canned primates to Mars!” Manfred swallows a mouthful of beer, aggressively plonks his glass on the table: “Mars is just dumb mass at the bottom of a gravity well; there isn’t even a biosphere there. They should be working on uploading and solving the nanoassembly conformational problem instead. Then we could turn all the available dumb matter into computronium and use it for processing our thoughts. Long-term, it’s the only way to go. The solar system is a dead loss right now – dumb all over! Just measure the MIPS per milligram. If it isn’t thinking, it isn’t working. We need to start with the low-mass bodies, reconfigure them for our own use. Dismantle the moon! Dismantle Mars! Build masses of free-flying nanocomputing processor nodes exchanging data via laser link, each layer running off the waste heat of the next one in. Matrioshka brains, Russian doll Dyson spheres the size of solar systems. Teach dumb matter to do the Turing boogie!”

                –Charles Stross

                • Warren Terra

                  The rest of it is fanciful, but the first part is true. It’s why I enjoy referring to the absurd fantasies of Newt et al as the Tinned Monkey Project and/or as Meat On Mars.

        • Why is manned spaceflight a bad obsession for these people to have, compared with their other obsessions?

          Because including the “manned” part, at least for now, adds a lot of dead weight. A whole lot of money and resources that could be going into developing and deploying advanced technology for missions that actually provide scientific benefits is wasted on water tanks, poopy bags, living quarters, and the like.

  • wengler

    Pish posh. Monroenomics is all a man with a moderate amount of slaves *ahem* house and field associates needs.

  • bobbyp

    There is a spectre haunting the GOP…that spectre is Saul Alinsky.

  • Rarely Posts

    I’m embarrassed to admit that I only recently began thinking about all of the other primaries being held right now. For example, the following Democratic Senate seats are now open: Connecticut, Hawaii, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Virginia, and Wisconsin. The following Republican seats are open: Arizona and Texas.

    Focusing on these primaries strikes me as a lot more valuable. For those of us who want to elect more and BETTER Democrats, it would be wise to identify which of these seats actually have better Democrats running against more moderate, worse Democrats. After doing a bit of research, I think that Hirono would be better in Hawaii and Heinrich in New Mexico, but I honestly don’t know. If anyone has any insight into any of the above primary races, I would be excited to hear it.

    I understand why all the newspapers and progressive blogs are focused on the GOP primary: it’s definitely more entertaining and probably more important. Nonetheless, I would like it if we had some focus on these primaries as these primaries are the ones that liberals should actually be engaged in.

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  • Bart

    Sugar beets??

    Did someone bring up the lockout in NDak?

  • Antonio Conselheiro
  • I’m of the opinion that Ron Paul masturbates into a jar to preserve his essences.

  • Spud

    I think a “self-deportation” plan that started with these four men would have some promise.

    I love how they dress up the same old neo-gestapo tactics against illegals as something novel. The only problem with self-deporting those four is it would be cruel and inhumane to the country they will go to.

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