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Pelosi really pulled this off and is increasing my respect for her (I am gnerally a fan). Reid on the other hand needs to spend more time with his family. as my hillbilly grandfather would say, “That boy is as useless as tits on a boar hog.”
A Republican loss it is.
But a great progressive moment it is not.
This.
I dare you. Define “progressive”.
Progressives shouldn’t be satisfied with this bill. Treat it like Izzo: take a day to enjoy the win, then get back to work.
Cannot disagree with that.
I’ve lost track: this is still the bill that makes the purchase of healthcare mandatory, right? Inspired by the one in Massachusetts? Mandatory?
Wrong. It does not make the purchase of healthcare mandatory.
It uses the full enforcement mechanisms of the IRS to make the purchase of health insurance from weakly regulated private oligopolies mandatory.
I can see how it might look that way, if you are that brand of progressive that despises actually passing legislation, being more comfortble in opposition than governing.
Well, it might look that way because it is that way. Whether you think the individual mandate is worth the other stuff in the bill is a different question.
How is it that people read political blogs and write grammatical comments but haven’t figured out that EVERY form of universal healthcare, especially single-payer, has a mandate? So why bash mandates?
It’s not the individual mandate (at least not for me) — of course all reasonable health insurance systems have an individual mandate. It’s the way that the individual mandate here is structured without much in the way of actual value-for-dollar or protections from the industry that one is forced to help keep profitable. It’s tough to stomach being legally required to help pay the massive salaries of the CEOS of Anthem or Wellpoint.
But that’s the American way — funhouse mirror socialism, from each according to his needs to each according to his power.
Obama spent a lot of time bashing mandates as an argument to use against Clinton during the primaries, as I recall.
I salute this great liberal victory which fulfills at long last the dream of health care visionary Bob Dole. Onward.
You know, it’s tricky: as a progressive, I could listen to the criticisms of Dennis Kucinich, who eventually voted “Yes.” Or I could listen to Bernie Sanders, actual socialist, who voted for the Senate bill. Or I could read Noam Chomsky, who reiterates many of the glaring problems with this bill, while acknowledging that he would have “held my nose” to vote for it. Or … I could accept the views of a bunch of oh-so-progressive shrieking purity troll fuckwits on the internet, who repeatedly assert that this will be worse then the status quo, and that it’s far better that thousands continue to die from lack of any health insurance than that they sully their Sanctimonious Asswipe credentials. Decisions, decisions.
The bill that got passed is in fact better than the status quo. It’s not single-payer, and it’s not the German or French system, but it’s a lot better than the bureaucratic nightmare we have with the system of insurance-company-hired bureaucratic gatekeepers plying games to keep payouts low and profits up. The next thing to do is put all insurance companies out of business, at least the health business, and make those people find honest work, instead of profiting on the misery of others.
Poor leftists, can’t be happy about anything. Personally, I’m going to enjoy celebrating the most important piece of progressive legislation since Medicare, and let the purity trolls go piss in their own cheerios.