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How Donald Trump Became the Republican Nominee For President is an Eternal Mystery

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Why, consider the fine upstanding citizen who is the most popular host on the network that acts as the voice of American conservatism:

An aggressive lawyer, great ratings and a supportive parent company addicted to the advertising revenue churned out by “The O’Reilly Factor”: The King of Cable News has all the support he needs to continue his particular brand of on-air showmanship. Indeed, it has been reported that O’Reilly’s contract at the network has been renewed.

So O’Reilly will continue in his dual role as the network’s greatest asset and liability, all wrapped up in one self-important package. If nothing else, these latest revelations flesh out the deep affinities that he shares with his vanilla-milkshake-drinking buddy President Trump, who has his own patented ways of approaching women. When the “Access Hollywood” tape surfaced last October, O’Reilly declined to air the most damaging part of the dialogue between then-businessman Trump and Billy Bush — that quip about grabbing women “by the pussy.” Why leave that out?

“I’m not going to play too much of it, because it’s crude guy talk,” O’Reilly told his viewers.

Here’s an anchor who shouldn’t be trusted to share space with his colleagues, nor to report on women and men. He is an awful, awful man.

The whole Times story Wemple is discussing is worth reading. And yet it will presumably change nothing, because Bill O’Reilly always made money for his partners.

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  • tsam

    They’ll never get rid of him. This isn’t the first time he’s been caught, and there’s no fucking way the list of victims is anywhere near complete. Rooting for a paralyzing stroke.

    • Mike G

      For his audience of rageaholic geezers, it’s a feature not a bug. Treating women like shit is part of O’Reilly’s brand as an angry asshole.

      • Exactly. O’Reilly is where he is because he fills a niche. A particularly vile niche, but a niche nonetheless. If it wasn’t him, it would be someone else.

    • Rooting for a paralyzing stroke

      Personally, I’m rooting for choking on a loofah sandwich.

      • GeorgeBurnsWasRight

        I’d be happy with “beaten to a pulp” by a woman he attempted to abuse.

  • Hells Littlest Angel

    A bigger mystery is why isn’t O’Reilly a member of Trump’s cabinet? Isn’t there a Secretary of Wife-Beating?

    • tsam

      And remove the centerpiece of the sexy murder machine media empire? ARE YOU NUTS?

      • Hells Littlest Angel

        What would stop O’Reilly from keeping his TV show? Congress? Come on.

    • Trump has enough wife beaters in his cabinet already. O’Reilly can fill the “anally pleasuring himself to climax with a vibrator while on the phone to a female employee” position.

      Disclaimer: that a tape of this is alleged to exist and 6 million was paid despite plaintiff suffering no monetary damages does not necessarily mean it happened.

      • John Revolta

        Yarrrgg. Some things can never be unseen, even if you never fucking saw them in the first place

      • vic rattlehead

        Trump has enough personal experience in that area. For once, he doesn’t need the benefit of anyone else’s expertise.

    • Snuff curry

      Trump hates falafel things wet with shower and other species of moisture, it’s too ethnic, and he’s never done it live and isn’t going to start now.

      • vic rattlehead

        What does that mean, “to play us out”??!!

        Fuck it, we’ll do it live. We’ll do it LIIIIIIIIIIIVE fuck it!

        That fuckin thing SUCKS!

    • CP

      A bigger mystery is why isn’t O’Reilly a member of Trump’s cabinet?

      Because it’s work.

      Who wants to do that when you can just ramble incoherently at the television every night and get paid for it?

      • Scott Lemieux

        Because it’s work.

        Given that Rick Perry has enough time to intervene in elections for college president — for that matter, given that Rick Perry is in the cabinet — I’d have to say that this is assuming facts very much not in evidence.

        • Happy Jack

          college president

          It’s even less important than that.

        • vic rattlehead

          The only proper way to report on that is “Energy Secretary Perry, who heads a department tasked with safeguarding the nation’s nuclear weapons, radioactive waste disposal, and oversees the operation of a system of national laboraties and technical facilities, commented today on the student body election of a university in Texas…”

  • MobiusKlein

    I have to wonder how much $ BoR is worth to Fox, if they pay his salary and all the lawsuit $ too.
    Or does it not matter, because they are spending Other People’s Money in service of the Glorious Revolution.

    • What can Billo testify about his buddy Ailles?

      • Peterr

        This. A thousand times, this.

    • dave

      The NYT article says he’s worth over $400 million annually and is paid about $18 million annually.

      Assuming a replacement would generate 1/2 the revenue, the answer is $182 million per year

      So there you go.

      • ASV

        If I’m doing my calculations right, assuming that’s just gross advertising revenue (gross, ha), it comes to about $45,000/minute including the first run and the repeat. That seems not crazy (CPM of ~$11), which means that daily national TV shows probably make a lot more money than I realized.

      • Bas-O-Matic

        You’ve got to factor in the cost of settling a sexual harassment lawsuit once or twice a year.

        • Bill Murray

          it’s just part of the cost of doing business

  • Judas Peckerwood

    Clearly it’s all lies, just like the way they framed that poor Cosby fella.

    • Morse Code for J

      It’s a shame that Cosby made his money on a family-friendly sitcom during the ’80s, instead of conservative talk radio.

      • Murc

        Fun fact about the Cosby Show: if you actually do the math on Cliff and Claire Huxtable’s relationship, it turns out that Cliff was romantically interested in her when she was 12 and he was 18, and deeply involved with her when she was still in high school and he was out of college.

        I’m sure this is unintentional on the part of the writers, as the Cosby Show was not what you’d call continuity heavy, but in hindsight, yeeeeeesh.

        • Bill Murray

          yeah, early in the show’s run, BC answered a question on why they had 4 kids with, because they did not want 5. A few episodes later, they added a fifth child, who was at college.

      • Hogan

        Although he’s sounded a lot like conservative talk radio the last few years.

        • I learned recently from Wikipedia that way back when Cosby tried to ruin the very young Janis Ian’s career because he believed she was a lesbian.

          • Hogan

            Gah. So he was always an appalling human being.

          • Morse Code for J

            What other conclusion could he draw, when the Quaaludes didn’t work on her?

  • Gwen

    One irony here is that O’Reilly’s career was really jumpstarted back in the 90s by the Clinton-Lewinsky saga.

  • cpinva

    as long as O’Reilly is bringing in more in ad revenues than he’s costing them in salary/benefits/lawsuit settlements, he’ll continue to be employed by FOX and, presumably, continue harassing female underlings. his audience (getting smaller by the year) lives vicariously through his harassment of female employees. they relive the “good old days”, when that was considered one of the perks of being an executive. they, and he, can’t leave the planet soon enough.

    • Hogan

      A secretary is not a toy
      No, my boy
      Not a toy
      A secretary is not a toy
      To fondle and dandle and playfully handle
      In search of some puerile joy.
      No, a secretary is not,
      Definitely not, a toy.

    • Sly

      as long as O’Reilly is bringing in more in ad revenues than he’s costing them in salary/benefits/lawsuit settlements, he’ll continue to be employed by FOX and, presumably, continue harassing female underlings.

      It’s not that he makes them money, its that its hard for them to get someone who works better for that time slot. Even if they bumped up Sean Hannity – who does white aggrievement almost as well as O’Reilly does without those legal liabilities – they’d have to find someone to replace him. There are few opportunity costs for keeping O’Reilly around.

      And, yes, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the bean-counters at Fox do the math on this every time his contract comes up for renewal.

    • Snarki, child of Loki

      “they, and he, can’t leave the planet soon enough.”

      Leave the planet, or be a part of it, about 2 meters or so down.

      It’s having them crawling around on the surface that is unacceptable.

  • efgoldman

    I don’t watch the asshole, ever, because I can’t afford to keep buying new teevee sets, and my blood pressure is high enough, thank you.
    But I do wonder how much of his bullshit bloviation he really believes. Oh, it’s obvious that the misogyny is genuine, and deep; he is a seriously sick man; racist, too. But his political views? When he was on in Boston, he was conservative, relative to the market (which was not as blue, then) but not fucking batshit crazy and stone racist, as he is now. Did he devolve that much? Was he keeping the wacko under wraps then, or is he exaggerating for effect now?
    It is not a question over which anybody (except maybe Fox’ lawyers) should lose sleep, but it is a puzzlement.

    • Woodrowfan

      he’s been immersed in the RW swamp for a long time now. it seeps in.

      • CP

        Yeah, I think living in the echo chamber effectively makes them crazier and crazier every year. “Them” meaning everybody from the poorest Appalachian coal miners watching it on TV every night to the wealthiest businessmen (including the media types themselves) and politicians who live in the high-end version of the same bubble.

    • NonyNony

      If you spend decades pretending to be something it’s got to seep in. Especially if you’re already inclined in that direction and are just “playing” an exaggerated version of yourself – that’s going to impact your personality in the long run.

      • witlesschum

        Yeah, I think it’s much easier for most people to just believe the bullshit they shovel than to cynically just say whatever while knowing you’re bullshitting.

      • Tagula

        “We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.” – Kurt Vonnegut, Mother Night

      • JustRuss

        Yeah, if you read some of Limbaugh’s interviews from early in his career, he kind of winks and calls himself an “entertainer”, as if he didn’t take his schtick too seriously. By the time he became the de facto leader of the conservative movement he clearly was drunk on his own Koolaid.

    • DrDick

      I suspect it may be a bit of both. In my experience, a lot of rabid conservatives know how to moderate their image in public, but, as Woodrowfan notes, being emersed in the RW fever swamp also has an impact.

  • Srsly Dad Y

    A Times story worth reading? Surely the Times is on its knees now that the bien pensant have canceled their subscriptions?

    • Dr. Ronnie James, DO

      Yeah, they’ll get not one click from me, not yet; they haven’t suffered enough. If Krugman says something good, I’ll hear about it elsewhere.

  • busker type

    But….
    Numerous people have assured me that democrats are too mean too white working class Real Americans, and that’s why Trump was nominated.

  • shawn k

    I’m sorry to hear that O’Reilly is the biggest douche at Fox. I had a ten spot on Hannity.

  • CP

    How Donald Trump Became the Republican Nominee For President is an Eternal Mystery

    Offhand, I suspect that the reason he won the nomination is that he convinced the biggest chunk of Republican voters that he was the truest heir to the tradition of Ronald Reagan, Dan Quayle, George W. Bush, and Sarah Palin, and that the Republicans who tried to stop him by saying, as Mitt Romney did, things like “you guys, did you know that Donald Trump supports torture! … no, no, that’s a bad thing!” sounded incoherent, out of touch, and after the last fifteen years, completely self-contradictory.

    Occam’s Razor. Trump won by being the most conservative of all the conservatives, according to the standards they themselves have been establishing for half a century.

  • DamnYankees

    It really is amazing how the people in power in the conservative world are almost, to a man (and it almost always is a man) just bad people. Like genuinely garbage human beings. From everyone at Fox, to everyone in the White House, to Congressional Leaders – there’s just no admirable person in there.

    Even Bush and Romney, as bad as they were, seemed like decent people on a very basic personal level. Like, they’d make good neighbors. They’d probably be pretty good as part of the PTA.

    There was an episode of Dan Carlin’s hardcore history a few years ago, I think Ghosts of the Ostfront, where he went on a little rant about how Stalin and Hitler’s governments worked on a personal level, in that the people in power were genuinely bad people, and that this flowed down. So that just totally ignoring all policy and politics, government because staffed with cruel, mean, base human beings, because those were the traits which were treasured at the job. Stalin was cruel, and so all of his lieutenants were cruel, and all of their underlyings were cruel, etc. And you end up with a government and a system which rewards being a bad person. Carlin was making the point at how different this was to democracies, and how we need to wrap our mind around it to understand the Eastern Front in WWII.

    It’s not very hard to imagine now.

    • shawn k

      That’s certainly the case of what I’ve read of Nazism. Many of the planners, from Himmler to a monster like Globocnik, were horrible people. That’s how they either fought their way to the top or were given positions of authority. Most of the lowly perps were probably pretty regular people who became hardened in the killing process.

      At least that’s Browning’s take in Ordinary Men

    • JustRuss

      Even Bush and Romney, as bad as they were, seemed like decent people on a very basic personal level. Like, they’d make good neighbors.

      Compared to Trump, yeah. I recall Bush had a history of being a petulant ass in his youth if he lost at tennis, or anything else, and Romney had the haircut story and others. But both seemed to have matured enough to curb those impulses, unlike the members of the current regime.

    • John Revolta

      Haven’t we all seen this at the micro level?

      I used to tour England with a band, and we played in a bunch of pubs all owned by a chain. They were all decorated the same and all run the same- but if the manager (“Governor”, that is) was a mean, petty, spiteful prick then everyone who worked there was mean and miserable as well. And the opposite if he was nice. There’s some fable loose in the world these days, maybe they teach it in business school, I dunno, that if you’re a nice guy your employees will take advantage of you and not do a good job. I’ve found this to be a load of codswallop, innit?

  • Boots Day

    Sorry, Bill-O, I didn’t hear a word you said. I was looking at the Red Skelton wig.

  • Origami Isopod

    Oh, jesus, the WaPo comments.

    Sexual harassment claims today include all kinds of things that were once considered normal conversation. I once said to a co-worker "Boy, are you having your period or something" because she was unusually cranky. Next thing I knew, a sexual harassment claim got filed against me.

    Posted under what appears to be the guy’s wallet name, too.

    • Hogan

      Rape claims today include all kinds of things that were once considered normal sex. Last week I got a girl stinking drunk, took her home, and stuck it in her. Next thing I know the police are at my door.

      OK, maybe the last bit didn’t happen.

  • bilditup1

    ‘The whole Times story Wemple is discussing is worth reading. And yet it will presumably change nothing, because Bill O’Reilly always made money for his partners.’

    Blasphemy! Meyer Lansky did nothing to deserve such insolence

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