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This is the bottom, right?

[ 77 ] January 10, 2013 |



General practice attorney with more than twenty years of experience is willing to train a small number of recently admitted attorneys, or those awaiting bar results. For a monthly fee, you will be able to shadow the experienced attorney, and learn by watching the day to day practice of law. Observe the following types of proceedings, as they occur; Civil Short Calender motion arguments, foreclosure mediation’s, pre-trial conferences, Workers Compensation and Social Security hearings, real estate closings, discovery proceedings and compliance, research and general office operations. Once admitted to the bar, the goal is to have you handling matters with and eventually without supervision. We reserve the right to limit participation in any or all activities, and all appearances are subject to the client and presiding judges approval. Admitted attorneys will be paid referral fees, if your referred case settles.

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  1. Don says:

    What took so long? An improvement on indentured servitude; the “servant” pays! Grad school at least has an end out there somewhere.

    • LeeEsq says:

      They have been doing this pay for internship in Britain for months now but its not with lawyers. Its for jobs with ordinary businesses like the local office supply store and similar things.

  2. Stan Gable says:

    From the picture I assumed that they’d have the interns fight to the death for the opportunity to land a paying job. Not sure if this is better or worse.

  3. Randy Paul says:

    With a pair of balls like that he should be a porno actor.

  4. Quicksand says:

    I don’t think this is quite the bottom yet — I don’t see anything there about a minimum contract length or buyout.

  5. DanMulligan says:

    Hmm… perhaps the next film topic for Spielberg: “Where’s Lincoln Now?”

  6. Auguste says:

    In my previous profession, this was actually fairly common, and it wasn’t just “improve your job prospects”: You were required to do several thousand hours of shadowing as part of the training before becoming professionally licensed, and many ‘masters’ would indeed charge their apprentice to do so. I’m talking up to two years of full-time work, without remuneration and even charging “tuition.”

  7. Murc says:

    This is actually very old school.

    We have actually returned to the medieval tradition of apprentices needing to pay a fee to learn from their masters. Five hundred years of advancement in the ways in which we provide and fund education and it’s come back to this.

    The lawyer posting this ad should be subject to professional sanction. If that’s not possible, the rules should be changed such that it is possible in the future. He should at the very least be made a subject of ridicule.

  8. commie atheist says:

    Spartacus is a bottom?

  9. Spoffin says:

    Betcha its not the bottom. Betcha there’s still a long way down. Betcha 12 months of that monthly fee.

  10. Linnaeus says:

    I wonder if one of the things you’ll pay this attorney for is the opportunity to copy edit the ads she/he posts.

  11. TapirBoy1 says:

    I don’t know if this violates the Model Rules, but I sure hope so.

  12. Ken says:

    I was going to say “not the bottom”, then I noticed the link was to Craigslist.

  13. Major Kong says:

    So Paul, do you like movies about gladiators?

  14. Speak Truth says:


    Eco 201 says there are too many law schools pumping out too many lawyers.

    I’m sorry that your field is subject to the market.

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  16. Rhino says:

    A while ago I mentioned on this blog that I was in hospital for an extremely serious infection, one that is usually fatal, and almost always permanently disabled. (Necrotizing fasciitis, for those who are wondering.) In my case through sheer fluke I was diagnosed at least a day or two earlier than most patients ever would be, much increasing my chances of survival.

    In any event what I wanted to say was yesterday I was discharged from the hospital with a truly horrific scar, but a prognosis of not merely survival but complete functional recovery. According to the team of doctors, and you get only the best with rare stuff like this, the expected recovery verges on a medical miracle.

    All that aside, it was the commenters and proprietors of LGM, alicublog, and Sadly, No, who kept me sane and connected with the outside world. Always remember your audience is not just fellow lefties and trolls, but also people like I was, depending upon you for the wit, erudition, and vicious sarcasm you display with such élan.

    Thank you, I now return you to sniping at jenbob and bickering with joe from Lowell.

  17. Rand Careaga says:

    I believe that young Richard Carstone, one of the ultimately crestfallen claimants in Bleak House, entered into a similar arrangement in his desultory pursuit of a suitable gentleman’s profession. We appear to have overshot the gilded age by half a century or more.

    • Xenos says:

      Young Richard Carstone did not have a law degree or even a university degree. He was a school-leaver for whom John Jarndyce purchased first a medical and thereafter a legal apprenticeship. In both cases he was given formal guidance and time to study, as well as expected to work.

      I don’t know if an Oxbridge graduate with a degree in law would have been expected to pay to work, but if they proceeded to study at the inns of the courts they probably were expected to support themselves as necessary until they were fully admitted to the bar.

  18. NorthLeft12 says:

    Perhaps the “lawyers” considering this “opportunity” should apply to be the mentor’s nanny or housekeeper instead? Probably will learn as much and also get paid with access to the mentor’s fridge too.

  19. Roger Ailes says:

    “Observe the following types of proceedings, as they occur; Civil Short Calender motion arguments, foreclosure mediation’s….”

    Proofreading advertisements.

  20. gocart mozart says:

    Civil Short Calender motion arguments,

    or you can sit in the back of the public courtroom and observe the arguments for free.

    • Phoenix Rising says:

      Which offers the additional advantage of allowing the student/apprentice to observe the correct spelling of “calendar”, at least in the docket bulletin of every court I’ve ever been in.

      …I know, I’ll stop now.

  21. PQuincy says:

    Hmmm…and then can also learn to write using apostrophes for plurals (they can observe “mediation’s”), while omitting apostrophes for possessives (they need “presiding judges approval”, aka, the approval of presiding judges).

    Just don’t pay too much!

  22. RepubAnon says:

    I used to joke about lawyers at the freeway off-ramps carrying “Will Sue For Food” signs – looks as though that isn’t a joke any more.

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