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Since all the important people are now in love with Chris Christie for attacking his own party, let’s not forget that the man is the purveyor of awful, awful policies. No doubt the real solution for struggling school districts in New Jersey is to deny them money. I understand that poverty combined with substandard and underfunded schools is quite the recipe for future success.

At least the New Jersey Supreme Court is holding Christie to the letter of the law.

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  • witless chum

    But, bipartisanship!!!!! Mom, Erik never lets us have any fun. Why can’t we play with Chris? That blind kid he beat up and pushed in the swamp totally deserved it!

    Actually, I think Christie love is just another symptom of the fact that an insanely high percentage of the Washington press corps sort of likes it when a politician treats them like shit. If media companies started offering free and confidential domination services to their employees, maybe they could keep that dynamic in their bedrooms and treat politicians like politicians and not like Mistress or Master.

  • Malaclypse

    Does anybody thing that if Sandy devastated, say, South Carolina, that Christie would care?

    Only in the Village can naked self-interest count as “principled.”

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    • DrDick

      Have to say that while I enjoyed Christie giving the GOP the finger, he is still a corrupt asshole and will remain a loyal Republican. Only a Villager could love that.

    • Bill Murray

      naked self-interest is the only beltway principle

  • waverby

    I think it’s less “in love” and more shocked praise at a Republican doing the right thing once in a rare while.

    (To which the standard response is “What do you want – a cookie?” but one should not encourage fat jokes.)

  • Manju

    I can empathize. Christie is to Romney like Trotsky was to Stalin. We appreciate your resistance but you are still a fucking communist, asshole.

    • Malaclypse

      Christie is to Romney like Trotsky was to Stalin

      So, Christie needs to beware of Spaniards bearing ice-axes?

      • The Dark Avenger

        Nope, Christie/Romney is more like Reagan/Nixon: Someone more likeable and less dishonest their counterpart.

        • Malaclypse

          So you are saying it is unlikely that Christie will write The History of the Russian Reagan Revolution? Or The Struggle Against Fascism Liberalism in Germany Schools?

          • Manju

            It just means that tomorrow’s Christopher Hitchens will develop an affection for him.

    • Manju

      Also, has there ever been a battle between dudes with better hair than L.Trot v JoStal?

      • djillionsmix

        the civil war

        • Pestilence

          Well the Cavaliers were well-coiffed, but the Roundheads were notoriously illkempt

  • TT

    I understand that poverty combined with substandard and underfunded schools is quite the recipe for future success.

    Michelle Rhee and friends would have you believe that it is THE recipe for future success. Anti-children union paintywaists just need to stop making excuses about decrepit facilities, no books, hungry and homeless kids, etc.

    • Cody

      Hey man, why don’t you just show some INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY and stop making excuses!

      Books!? I didn’t have books when I was growing up under Reagan’s watch!

  • Joshua

    I live in New Jersey. Christie is an awful governor. His response to Sandy was good, but in the end we still have tax cuts for the rich, no new tunnel into NYC, high unemployment, sluggish growth, underfunded pensions, etc. This is after he basically got his agenda passed. By the GOP’s own standards (if Obama didn’t fix everything by the third week into his Presidency, he’s a failure).

    But man, the propaganda campaign is really thick and it is working. His approval ratings are high enough that Booker backed out of a gubernatorial campaign. He was on Fallon laughing it up.

    • Cody

      This is normal, right? Usually a good response to a disaster will give you a huge popularity bump.

      Most people don’t follow a lot of issues, but everyone in New Jersey sees Christie handled the disaster correctly.

      All his horrible policy decisions and beliefs aren’t front-and-center in anyone’s mind.

      • mpowell

        Yeah, it’s pretty pathetic. All you have to do is your job and a disaster turns into a political boon for most executive position politicians.

    • elm

      Booker back out of governor to run for Senate. It’s not like he cowered in fear of the Christie; rather, he figured it would be easier winning an open seat that always goes Dem than going up an incumbent for a position that often goes R.

      Plus, Booker will make a better Senator than Governor, so I’m happy with this choice. (And the other major option, Pallone, is nothing too exciting.)

      This does leave an opening for someone to challenge Christie. Plenty of time for his approval ratings to start dropping, and I think you’ll start seeing challengers in a couple of months when they do.

      • Joshua

        I don’t think Booker wants his last stop to be the Senate. Notwithstanding the current officeholder, being governor is usually a better stepping stone.

        • Cody

          But who wants to be governor of New Jersey. Seems all the press you would get out of there would be bad.

          • Colin Day

            But who wants to be governor of New Jersey.

            Woodrow Wilson?

        • elm

          I think you’re right about ultimate ambition. But, first, governor is term-limited: will Booker be able to win the Presidency in 8 years? Will he want to be an ex-governor for some number of years before running? Second, he’s guaranteed to win the Senate while he very well could lose the governorship, and a sitting Senator is probably better than failed gubenotorial candidate for long-term ambition. Finally, given the current state of NJ, I’m not sure being associated with what will happen the next few years will be good for long-term career prospects.

      • Richard

        Disagree. Booker backed out because Christie is now enormously popular and Booker had no chance against him. Maybe not cowering in fear but clearly scared of a run against him.

        There will be challengers against Christie but no one with a chance of winning. He supports terrible policies for the most part but is very likeable as a human being.

        • DocAmazing

          but is very likeable as a human being

          for very specific values of “human being”.

        • elm

          I think the fact that Senate is more easy winnable had something to do with his decision but, first, I don’t think Booker would recognize that the governorship was unwinnable even if it were, and, second, I think the Senate job is the one he really wants anyway. I would guess he would only be happy with one job that offered a maximum of eight years.

          Part of why I think he flirted with the governorship is that Lautenberg wants to hang on for another term and Booker would prefer not to fight with him. Maybe Christie’s rise in popularity made Booker decide that he’d rather push Lautenberg aside than have a tough election, I don’t know.

    • Murc

      no new tunnel into NYC

      That really shocked me when it happened.

      The various tunnels and bridges to NYC have generated economic value so grossly out of proportion to what they cost to build and maintain it isn’t even funny. In a sane world, we’d build THREE new tunnels to Jersey and another rail line to Connecticut and points beyond, and surround their far terminuses with enormous apartment buildings and commercial space.

      • Seriously. How can someone from New Jersey not get this?

        Without the commute into NYC, New Jersey would be Maine South.

        • elm

          Many NJ residents agreed with (or are at least sympathetic to) Christie’s decision because the proposed tunnel wasn’t the most cost-effective way to address the problem.

          That it was the only one on offer, that it was the only one being subsidised by federal money, that even burying money and telling people where to dig would have been beneficial given the state of the economy, and that Christie has done nothing to push for the more cost-effective alternative in the time since is lost on those people.

  • Sly

    The Beltway thrives on cheap narratives that are easily digestible and do not offend the Lords at Court, so they are constantly in search of a Republican they can point to and say “See! They’re not all crazy!”

    That way, it’s easy to ignore unserious hippies like Norm Ornstein and Thomas Mann, and they can continue to hold up serious thinkers who think seriously about serious issues. Like Lindsey Graham, whose promise to seriously filibuster any national security nominee means that Benghazi must be serious and not at all related to the fact that Lindsey Graham has been terrified of a primary challenge for the past three years, which is not a serious fact so we won’t mention it.

    • Whether we’re talking about the leftist, libertarian, or High Broder version of partisan neutrality, this is always the problem: you end up needing to run down the better, and apologize for the worse, in order to maintain your “pox on both houses” beliefs.

      What makes this intellectual trap especially sticky is the absence of any implicit defenses. A Democratic or Republican partisan is at least aware on a theoretical level of the possibility of being biased in favor of conclusions that confirm the preferred partisan narrative, but the non-partisan partisan thinks that having his non-partisan narrative confirmed is proof against bias.

  • Western Dave

    The one area where Christie is making some progress where everybody else (Rep. and Dem.) has failed is in rationalizing the microgovernments of New Jersey. That may not seem like much but many of Jersey’s problems are due to outmoded and irrational local governmental structures that allow an incredible amount of double dipping and corruption possibilities. You have to live there to understand how screwed up it is. Also, he did the right thing with DRPA.

    • witless chum

      Nickel version? In Michigan, we seem to have more government than some places as every single bit of the state has at least two layers of local government. There’s county government and then either a city or a township. If you live in a village, you can have three layers, because villages don’t do that much and operate within townships.

      You could save money by getting rid of counties, of course, but the extra bureaucracy has its uses, such as running elections at an above-Florida level of competence.

      • DrDick

        I rather like county government, as it tends to be rather more responsive to local needs and interests than the state government. Rather more easily corruptible for the same reason.

        • witless chum

          Having an elected official easily accessible for people to bitch to is actually an important government function, I believe.

        • Murc

          County government is nice because it’s large enough to get things done and take advantages of economies of scale, but small enough everything is still local.

          • DrDick

            Pretty much my take.

      • elm

        Every bit of NJ is in both a county and municipality, so everyone has two layers of local government. The problem in NJ is that some of these municipalities are tiny, like less than 20 people tiny. And very resistant to merging with their tiny brethren.

        • Western Dave

          What Elm says, but then on top of this, separate water, sewer, trash districts with the power to tax and, more problematically, expand boards with white collar no show jobs that alllow you to double (or triple or quadruple) dip the pension system. It’s not unusual in NJ for elected officials to get on these boards and then be able to collect a pension after only 5 or 10 years because each year served counts as a year of service, even if the board only meets once a year (or you never attend). See also, Delaware River Port Authority. One of the reasons teachers are getting screwed in NJ is because the state employees pension fund is getting screwed by these scammers.

          • elm

            Right. Forgot about all of those. Also, volunteer fire and ems districts have the power to tax and many towns have multiple of these districts.

      • Murc

        In Michigan, we seem to have more government than some places as every single bit of the state has at least two layers of local government. There’s county government and then either a city or a township. If you live in a village, you can have three layers, because villages don’t do that much and operate within townships.

        Oh, thank god. I thought this was just my county over in New York.

        I feel so much less alone now.

    • Sly

      Long Island has the same problem. I can’t speak for New Jersey, or anywhere else for that matter, but our own layered local government structure (county, town, village) arose during the colonial period, when the existing town governments didn’t want to serve as tax collectors for the colonial government. So the governor created the county system and reissued town patents limiting town governments to trustees of common land. The result today is that you have to comply with multiple sources of regulation to do virtually anything with a piece of property.

      The problem of reform is that since the original state constitution recognized and protected “grants of land made by the authority of the king” and the current constitution forbids “any law impairing the obligation of contracts,” those patents can’t be dissolved or amended unilaterally. Which is a good thing in other areas, as it’s the same law, for instance, that stands in the way of state and local governments from raiding changing pension benefits for current retirees. Which, of course, means that Bloomberg hates it.

  • Left_Wing_Fox

    The Republican party has managed to lower expectations to the point where a single sane or competent policy position is enough reason to fete them.

    • Njorl

      A single sane position could be enough to get a Republican ostracized. Once that happens, there is a slim possibility that they could adopt more sane positions. Sadly, it’s more likely that they’ll go totally nuts trying to re-enter the flock, a la Lyndsey Graham.

  • benjoya

    well, christie’s explanation of the opposition to one of his judicial appointments as “ignorance” was refreshing (said judge is a muslim), but as previously pointed out, NJ has a lot of unemployment and foreclosures. still, for a 21st century republican, he sounds like noam chomsky, which says more about his party than him.

  • Bitter Scribe

    I believe the reason Christie made nice with Obama after Sandy is that he was delighted that Obama didn’t jerk him around for political reasons. You know, like his fellow Republicans did on the relief bill.

  • Snarki, child of Loki

    At least the New Jersey Supreme Court is holding Christie to the letter of the law.

    Well, of COURSE! It gives them opportunity of quoting one of the best judicial rulings to come out of NJ EVER:

    “We meant what we said, and we said what we meant,
    the schools must be funded, one hundred percent.”

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