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“Bad things happen in bars”


Judge Hatch

The Honorable Jacqueline Hatch

I’ll say.

Prosecutors contended that [Officer Evans] drank eight beers and then drove himself to the Green Room, where he flashed his badge in an attempt to get into a concert for free. While inside, he walked up behind the victim, who was a friend of a friend, put his hand up her skirt and then ran his fingers across her genitals.

When bouncers threw him out, Evans told them he was a cop and they would be arrested.

The 43-year-old former Arizona Department of Public Safety officer was facing between six months and 2 1/2 years in prison, but the crime was eligible for probation. He will not be required to register as a sex offender, according to the sentence.

The judge said she considered the defendant’s lack of a criminal record and strong community support in her sentencing.

She also advised the victim to be more vigilant.

A jury convicted Evans of sexual abuse, a class 5 felony, on July 2.

DPS fired Evans shortly after his criminal conviction and following an internal investigation, according to officials.

The judge sentencing Evans, Coconino County Superior Court Judge Jacqueline Hatch, said she hoped both the defendant and the victim would take lessons away from the case.

Bad things can happen in bars, Hatch told the victim, adding that other people might be more intoxicated than she was.

“If you wouldn’t have been there that night, none of this would have happened to you,” Hatch said.

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  • How is this woman a judge? Hope she doesn’t preside over any rape trials

    BTW, bad things happen EVERYWHERE…and last I checked you could get shitfaced at home as easily as you could at a bar. At least, that’s what I hear.

    • RedSquareBear

      and last I checked you could get shitfaced at home as easily as you could at a bar

      Or, apparently, in a judge’s chambers…

    • I’ve tested it out pretty thoroughly, and I can confirm that you can indeed get pretty shitfaced just about anywhere.

      Also, if the victim had not been there that night, it would have happened to somebody else. And if there were no women there, the guy would just have gone somewhere else, I suspect.

      So, like usual, the best approach is for all women to be locked at home and fully controlled. Vote GOP!

    • MAJeff

      How is this woman a judge?

      Appointed by Governor Jan Brewer. Her attitude makes a bit more sense in that context.

      • Anderson

        Brewer should not be able to step outside without being asked how she feels about her appointee’s sentencing notions.

        • mds

          Oh, I assure you, given how vicious and stupid Jan Brewer is, she’d feel just fine about it.

    • DrDick

      This is the worst kind of puritanical victim blaming. It is only half a step away from slut shaming.

      • MAJeff

        In other words, exactly the type of judge we would anticipate from an anti-woman party.

        • Auguste

          Romney ’12 – because what’s the worst that can happen?

          • DrDick


      • laura

        I would say it’s half a step *past* slut shaming. Frankly, I think the “nice ladies don’t go to bars” argument is non-trivially more reactionary than the “nice ladies don’t wear short skirts” argument.

    • Sly

      How is this woman a judge?

      How is this woman a woman?

      • MAJeff

        She’s a Republican.

    • firefall

      Hope she doesn’t preside over any rape trials

      Oh I think it’s clear she never will – only a few silly false rape claims

    • Hob

      I don’t get how not being drunk, or not doing anything in particular (other than not appearing in public while wearing a skirt), is supposed to protect anyone from a guy who just sneaks up behind her and starts groping.

      • DrDick

        other than not appearing in public while wearing a skirt

        Well, there is your problem right there.

  • MikeJake

    She’s right, women don’t belong at bars. Bars are a place for men to get blind drunk and silently glower at one another, not to meet women.

    • “Get into the groove
      Get out of my way
      I came here to drink
      Not to get laid.”


      • Engine Joe

        You’ll dance to anything by the Smiths.

      • spencer

        Blow it out your hairdo, cuz you work at Arby’s.

        • spud

          Not just any Arby’s but the worlds largest in COLONIAL HEIGHTS, VIRGINIA!!!

          • I love it when I am present at the birth of a new Internet Tradition.

      • Increase Mather


      • Wrye

        Choke on this, you danceteria types!

  • “Bad things happen to people with vaginas.”

    • kg

      I thought we weren’t allowed to say that word.

      • DrDick

        That only applies in certain states.

        • Hogan

          And only to women.

          • NBarnes

            Yeah, how are men supposed to discuss what legitimate and reasonable restrictions must be put on women to make sure that their vaginas are appropriately looked after if they can’t use ‘vagina’? Are Paul Ryan and Todd Akin just supposed to say ‘lady parts’ when they are making sure that victims of ‘legitimate rape’ get access to health care and abortion while other victims of less-rapey rape get told to keep their legs shut?

            Women, of course, have no need of ‘vagina’ or other words. With men making sure that vajayjay-related public policy questions are addressed, women should stop making those men uncomfortable with their theories about ho-ha policy.

      • Stephen

        It makes me wonder how they’re passing all this legislation when they’re not allowed to use the basic vocabulary of the things they’re dealing with. Are our state legislatures debating bills called “An Act to Restrict What a Woman Can Do With Her Hoohah”?

        • Ruviana

          If you’re going to propose such legislation, at least use my favorite term: cooter.

        • “The Vajayjay and vajajay related activities act of 2012”

  • Njorl

    If her skirt reached all the way to the floor, he wouldn’t have been able to put his hand up it so easily.

    If she were accompanied by a male relative, he could have defended her virtue.

    • If motorcyclists are compelled to wear helmets, how come women can’t be compelled to wear burqas?

      • Ruviana

        Or a chastity belt.

    • phl

      and now that male relative has to stone her

    • Stephen

      Or, to take the MRA approach, if she had read his mind and agreed to have sex with him, he wouldn’t have had to assault her!

    • Presumably by firing multiple rounds from an automatic firearm in the crowded bar.

  • Amanda in the South Bay

    Also, I’m sure the fact that he got such a light sentence has nothing to do with his being a cop…

    • DrDick

      Which frankly should have been grounds for a longer sentence.

      • NBarnes

        I NO RITE?!!?!?!

        This idea that cops should get off light because they are cops isn’t just wrong, it’s FUCKING BACKWARDS. Cops should be held to HIGHER standards. We fucking allow them to walk around with goddamn guns and fuck with people and people can’t say shit about it. They need to be subject to MORE scrutiny, not less. How is that not OBVIOUS?!?!

        Grrrrr. Anarchist Hulk smash.

        • thebewilderness

          It is the same argument that is being made on behalf of the clergy and Assange. This specious argument of balancing the good with the bad as though such a thing were possible. Effing authoritarian asshats seem to think the value of feeding children can be weighed and measured against the crime of raping them.
          I’m sure they were all really swell peeps right up until the hot second they decided to become a mass murderer or a serial rapist or whatever.
          Pls pardon my Godwin but Hitler loved dogs, so he really wasn’t all bad.

  • mark f

    Judge Hatch learned everything she needs to know about modern bars by watching Deadwood.

    • Colin Day

      Fortunately the victim wasn’t holding aces and eights.

  • JL

    In addition to the terrible quoted part, there’s also the part where this guy’s former police partner advocates showing him leniency in order to “give a little back to those in law enforcement who give so much to us everyday.”

    Screw. You. You. Piece. Of. Shit. You don’t deserve to be entrusted with the responsibility of law enforcement. Your community is less safe with people like you on the street.

    • Malaclypse

      Words failed me below, but I’ll second yours.

      • DrDick


    • Ignorant Texan

      And they wonder why much of the public actively dislike/instinctively distrust them.

    • Njorl

      It’s bizarre. Police officers always want the public to show appreciation for law enforcement by turning a blind eye to law breaking. If I were a cop, there would be nothing I hated more than a corrupt or abusive cop.

      You never hear, “That guy was an awful officer. We’re glad to be rid of him.”

    • +1

    • Joshua

      I “give a little back to those in law enforcement” with every paycheck and property tax bill I mail in. In return, I expect them not to abuse their power and/or commit sexual assaults.

      I think this is a reasonable agreement, but I guess they don’t.

    • NBarnes


  • Good to see the comments in AZ are running about 11:1 in favor of Judge Hatch immediately resigning. (Calls for her to “do the right thing” seem to ignore that she has shown no ability to do so in the past.)

    Still, I’m glad my daughters are not allowed to go to Arizona.

    • Anderson

      Bad things happen in Arizona.

  • Malaclypse

    “These people put their lives on the line every day,” Evan’s former partner said. “I hope you’ll be lenient on him. To me, this is one way we can give a little back to those in law enforcement who give so much to us everyday.”

    Snark and sarcasm fail me. Words fail me. Fuck.

    • Njorl

      And let’s all remember that when a garbage collector is convicted of a crime, that they are public servants who are 75% more likely to be killed on the job than a police officer is.

    • mds

      Also, fuck public schoolteachers, the greedy moochers. Amen.

    • Hogan

      After what Evans has given us, I’d like to give him something back with a softball bat.

    • thebewilderness

      There was a time when this was sorta semi half true. The SCOTUS determined in the eighties through a series of decisions that force protection was the highest priority of law enforcement.
      We see the result of those decisions on the news almost every day.

  • Craigo

    So the takeaway for the victim is to not live in a society where assholes will use their authority to assault you.

    I’m sure she’ll get right on that.

  • Funkhauser

    These bad things that happen in bars are called `crimes,’ right?

  • So now we have judicial precedent for “She was just asking for it, look at how she was dressed!”?

    • Snarki, child of Loki

      That bank was just asking to be robbed!

    • Bill Murray

      Didn’t we get that from that Jodie Foster movie, The Accused.

  • Bad things have happened to me in bars and I’m a member of the penised class. There may be a flaw in the judge’s logic somewhere…

    • rea

      Well, I’m a guy, and I’ve been groped in a bar.

      Didn’t call the police, but raied hell, and I never saw that guy dare show his face in that bar again. Just because you’re a gay guy in a gay bar doesn’t mean it’s okay to grope you. Works the same with women in hetero bars.

      • Stephen

        A gay guy in a public bathroom once wanted to grope me, but thankfully he was polite enough to ask first. I said no thanks, I’m on the clock and kind of trying to pee here, and he said “fair enough” and left.

        In other contexts I may well have said yes. The point being it’s possible to grope and get groped and everything be consensual and everybody be happy. There’s no excuse for these jackasses who think they don’t need permission.

        • MAJeff

          hmmm…consent…what a concept.

        • There’s a difference there in that male-to-male interaction ordinarily involves an approximate physical equality. I don’t think I’m much of a threat, but how should everyone else know?

          • Stephen

            Oh, absolutely. That doesn’t mean it’s wrong in every single case for a man to ask a woman if he can grope her (I do suggest he word it differently, though), but he should most definitely foster an atmosphere of trust first.

            It’s a fucking shame that that trust can’t be extended easily in many situations, but that’s the situation that rape culture has created, and it’s not women’s fault that that’s the case. It’s the fault of rapists and all the assholes and systemic structures that enable rapists.

  • commie atheist

    This was my favorite part:

    “When you blame others, you give up your power to change,” Hatch said that her mother used to say.

    Yes! And that explains why Obama hasn’t been able to unshit the American bed after three and one half years: all that Bush-blaming took away his power to change.

    • dave

      Judge Hatch is paid handsomely to “blame others”. So if she really believes this, she should step down immediately.

      This is beyond appalling.

  • Justice, accountability, freedom, empathy these are all concepts that conservative Republican TeaBaggers struggle with, unless applied to their own white selves.

    The judge is a jack ass.

    • RedSquareBear

      unless applied to by their own white selves.

      Fixed that for you.

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  • Bart

    As a sidelight to the case, Judge Hatch did impose a temporary seven beer limit at the Green Room, “To see if that works”

    • Mike F.

      I don’t know if you’re kidding, but the cop drank the eight beers before he went to the Green Room.
      So, if you are kidding I guess that makes the joke twice as funny because the judge can’t read.

  • Major Kong

    Not to mention that he drank 8 beers and then drove to the Green Room.

    Sounds like there should be a DUI on top of the rest of his troubles.

  • scott


    Attached is a link to a petition calling for the judge’s resignation. Please sign – thanks!

  • dan

    It is, of course, true that bad things happen in bars. One way of avoiding those things would be to avoid going in to bars. Another way would be to pass a law making those specific bad things illegal, reporting them to the police when they happen, having the prosecutor prosecute the case, and then have the judge impose criminal sanctions on the person doing the bad thing, and then they won’t be able to do the bad things anymore. Of course, that is a convoluted solution….

    This is a theory of adjudication that I would like to see applied in other cases. For example, file-sharing: “Bad things happen when you digitally record your own music. If you hadn’t recorded your music, this wouldn’t have happened.”. Or how about foreclosures: “Bad things happen when you led money to people you know won’t be able to repay it….” Or how about patent infringement: “Bad things happen when you invent a new kind of cell phone.”

  • Major Kong

    Bad things happen when you elect brain-dead neanderthals to the bench…..

    • MAJeff

      or to the judge-appointing Governorship.

  • Anon21

    Hey, Coconino County district attorney: appeal this horseshit.

  • synykyl

    What the fuck is going on in Arizona? Has everyone there lost their fucking mind?

    • It’s the dry heat. Or the fact that she was appointed to her job by Jan Brewer.

  • ironic irony

    Fuck this nasty ass excuse for a judge/human being.

    Double fuck this nasty excuse for a cop/human being.

  • cpinva

    the “lesson” taken by the victim: this judge is a tortured, flaming asshole.

    i would like to think proceedings to remove her from the bench, and have her disbarred, are already under way. probably not. most likely she’s being nominated for an award, by the local republican party.

    i would also like to think the officer in question has been informed, by the victim’s male relatives and friends, to get out of the country, now.

  • kali

    FWIW, Pretty sure she’d be removed from the bench in our home state.

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