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[ 76 ] June 11, 2011 |

…has nothing to do with “small government.”


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  1. c u n d gulag says:


    Usually, messin’ with a guy’s or a gal’s beer is like messin’ wid their Mama.

    But, we’re talking about elitist, Liberal, CRAFTED beer, here, so the moronic rabble who voted for Walker and his ilk won’t be affected.

    They think ‘Haute Cuisine’ is French for their Aunt’s mighty fine lookin’ daughter.

    To them, the rancid pee-water that Bud/Coors/Miller, and all of their lite/ultra-lite/boch/summer/lime variations that they sell, is nectar of the God’s, and not watered-down and carbonated brewmeister piss.

    • Ben says:

      In my experience Sconnies have pretty good beer palates. New Glarus is sold in every dirty, rural, 1-aisle gas station, fer instance.

      Walker will probably face a bigger backlash from this than he expects. Par for the course, in other words.

      • jmack says:

        I would love to be able to get New Glarus brews here in Ohio; alas, they do not distribute here.

      • c u n d gulag says:

        You’re right.
        I moved back to NY just a few years ago after living in the South for a decade, where Bud, Bud Lite and Coors Lite are the beer beverages of choice, so I shouldn’t have ascribed their tastes to people from WI.

        There are a lot of people with Germanic roots up there, and there are few countries that worship beer, or make it as good, as Germany – maybe the Belgians or the Czeck’s.

        Hey, look, it’s after noon!
        Time for a cold one.
        Maybe I’ll look for Pilsner Urquell or some good old American Anchor Steam Liberty Ale at the distributors – YUM!!!.
        I haven’t had either in awhile, and I need a treat.

        • Scott Lemieux says:

          Upstate and Western NY have some great craft brewers — Southern Tier, Ommegang, Middle Ages and Davidson Brothers are all first rate.

          • c u n d gulag says:

            OMG – Ommegang is awesome!

            Thanks for the reminder!!!

          • gmack says:

            Rochester in particular is working on a nice beer culture, with a few bars serving real cask ales, several new microbreweries opening, and the best beer store I have ever seen anywhere (Beers of the World).

            • Scott Lemieux says:

              Yeah, Albany also has two stores that essentially sell any beer, domestic or imported, that’s available in NY state. An actual advantage over NYC…

            • Murc says:

              Thanks to our fucked up liquor laws, Beers of the World is also the only place in Rochester to get really good hard cider.

              • gmack says:

                True, but if you’re willing to go down near Ithaca, there are some first rate small cider makers (Bellwether, for instance, is one I really like, and they don’t sell it at BOTW).

                • Murc says:

                  While I like me some drinking, I don’t like ranging all over the southern tier to sample things.

                  And man, God help you if you like something that’s available dirt cheap in any LCBO across the border, but isn’t sold in the states. Picking up a case to bring home will MURDER you when it comes to duties.

  2. gocart mozart says:

    First they came for my Black Husky Honey Wheat but I drink Pabst Blue Ribbon, so I said nothing.
    Then they came for my . . .

  3. Davis X. Machina says:

    MillerCoors bought that legislature, fair and square.

    Is there no Takings Clause? Is there no ban on ‘impairment of contracts’? You get what you pay for, and what you pay for, you get to keep.

    To turn around now and repeal this provision would make a mockery of the Constitution.

  4. gocart mozart says:

    I did a google search for Wisconsin Micro-Brews and this came up:

    There is a map of % of craft breweries per capita nationwide. The deep south plus Texas apparently lead the nation in piss water beer drinkers.

    • jdkbrown says:

      Well, parts of Texas *are* the Deep South.

      • Nik says:

        As someone who brews in a craft brewery (in NYC! Come visit us!) and used to make beer in Texas, I can tell you that a large part of why Texas and The South have so few breweries is because they have enforced distributor laws very much like the one that Wisconsin is trying to pass.

        • Gern Blanston says:

          Wait, I thought it was the oppressive Federal gummint in Washington that was keeping the entrepreneurial spirit from flourishing in “Real America”?

    • DrDick says:

      I am proud to see that my state of Montana is representing at number 3 in the nation (including three here in my home town). Much of that is likely an artifact the fact that there not a million people in the whole state, but we do like good beer.

    • DocAmazing says:

      I just got back from vacation in southwestern British Columbia. You want craft beer? Finding corporate beers in Victoria is actually a bit of a challenge, with the prevalence and market penetration of Phillips Brewing, Vancouver Island Brewing, Okanagan Spring, and numerous others, all sadly unavailable on this side of the border.

      Some teabaggy types might well go along with this assault on their tastebuds (not TasteBuds!), but I suspect that those who have grown accustomed to flavor with their beer will not go quietly.

    • calling all toasters says:

      In defense of the South, I’m sure they still lead the nation in craft corn whiskey.

      • Furious Jorge says:

        We definitely lead the nation in throat-searing alcohol served out of old jelly jars.

        • gmack says:

          It’s interesting. I actually had some corn whiskey moonshine for the first time last year; it was a hell of a lot smoother and more pleasant than I expected.

          • DrDick says:

            You obviously had much better quality than the double-run white lightning I had 40 years ago in eastern Oklahoma. that stuff would take the paint off a Buik.

            • gmack says:

              Probably so. I grew up on the edge of Appalachia, and my father still sometimes teaches a class on Appalachian politics at a local community college-like school there. Apparently, one of his students brought him a bottle of the stuff. Assuming that the student actually liked my father, I’m guessing that it was a bit higher quality than is sometimes the case.

              • DrDick says:

                I grew up on the edge of the Ozarks in eastern Oklahoma and this was what passed as the best available moonshine in the area. Given that Oklahoma did not repeal prohibition, the moonshining arts were still well honed and current in the early 70s when I tried it.

    • Warren Terra says:

      There just seems to be something about the South where they believe that abject subservience to massive corporations and bitter resentment to Gummint are their rightful stances.

  5. gocart mozart says:

    Less government only mean cutting programs that help people or that liberals like. Programs that conservatives support don’t count. Likewise, states rights only mean state laws or powers that conservatives like. It doesn’t apply to things like gay marriage, medicinal marijuana, assisted suicide and so on. See also strict constructionism which does not apply to cases such as Bush v. Gore and Citizens United.

    • Incontinentia Buttocks says:

      And as Reality Check recently reminded us, the more pissed off liberals get, the better the politician / government action was that pissed them off!

      Read properly, the Constitution is all about ressentiment, apparently.

      • Walt says:

        I used to think that Nietzsche was full of shit on ressentiment, and that people were being pretentious in thinking that there was a special form of resentment so fucked up that we needed to borrow the French word. Then I encountered conservatives on the Internet.

  6. NBarnes says:

    My brother brewed the kölsch at his own wedding. That was some fine drinking, and ran out a third of the way through the dinner. :(

  7. pete says:

    Shifting the topic sideways a bit, the filing deadline for candidates in the first tranche of Wisconsin recall elections is almost here. As I understand it, Republicans are fielding “fake” Democratic candidates in order to turn the July election into a primary and delay the general until August. Should Dems run “fake Republican” candidates? I lean to saying “no” on the grounds that they should vigorously call the Reps rat-fvckers, but it’s controversial. Anyone care to make the case on either side?

    • Incontinentia Buttocks says:

      Here’s the other side: no point bringing a knife to a gun fight.

      Our election laws are fundamentally broken. This seems like but another small instance of that general rule.

      If playing nice and then getting hosed by those who refused to play nice had any chance of improving the system in the long run, I think a case could be made to play nice.

      But it doesn’t.

      Democrats should obviously play by the rules. But if those rules are irrational, why pretend that they aren’t and play by an imaginary set of more rational rules?

      • Scott Lemieux says:

        Yeah, breaking rules is one thing, but “exploiting dumb rules when the other side is doing it” is fine. I don’t believe in unilateral disarmament.

        • pete says:

          No disagreement here on that. My question is, what strategy is most likely to succeed? The Republicans want to delay the inevitable. I think the argument in favor of helping them do that (i.e. turning all the races into primaries) is a little weak — it seems to be based on fear that if the Dems don’t the Reps will blanket the state with opposition ads. But, um, won’t they do that anyway? And can’t the Dems fight back anyway? That’s what I’m not getting. But I know I don’t have all the info.

    • astonishingly dumb hv says:

      But does delay help the Dems?

  8. Joe says:

    Hey. It’s not the Beer Party!

    Seriously, the fact its backers have to paid off doesn’t really mean it has “nothing” to do with small government. They just are somewhat um selective about it.

  9. Bart says:

    Your link sent us to Think Progress, who suddenly only allow comments via FB and the three old portals. What’s the on-line world coming to?

    • Davis X. Machina says:

      It’s site-wide. You can’t comment on Yglesias’ posts without jumping through the same hoops.

      Comments on any CAP blog, even the viewing of them, never mind the posting — are impossible anywhere Facebook is blocked by a firewall like Barracuda or TrendMicro, at least with their default setting.

    • Warren Terra says:

      I’ve been reading Yglesias since he was at TAPPED (by my count, this means I’ve followed him through at least six blogs, and around ten years), but I’ve refused to join Facebook (I’m an antisocial sod, their IP rules are deeply obnoxious, their attitude to privacy is farcical, and their attempt to own the internet scares me) and – like, I think, most Americans under 50 – I don’t use Yahoo, Hotmail, or AOL (AOL?!). So I can’t comment there, unless they change or I knuckle under. I’m not happy about it.

      • Joe says:

        under 50? I started using the Internet in the ’90s. I’m not over 50. I like many others started with AOL and still use my old email address there. If you find yourself compelled to comment, you can get one of those accounts for free. You don’t have to “change,” since you can have more than one account.

        The tendency of various places, including Slate, to favor Facebook is annoying and I don’t use it either.

        • Joe says:

          I also don’t think adding an account is “knuckling under” (in what sense?) as such either. I agree that it’s annoying; comments shouldn’t require you to sign in. But, with those four options, it isn’t that bad.

        • Jeremy says:

          I’m 31 and use hotmail. It’s a garbage account for web registration, but it gets the job done.

          I also have facebook to keep in touch with friends, which is why I don’t want to log into it to comment on political blogs. It’s like CAP and Slate, etc think everyone should be hooked to one account. Annoying, and a bit creepy.

  10. David M. Nieporent says:

    Not sure what this story has to do with the Tea Party, by which I mean Scott is pulling this out of hisGeorge Soros’s ass, but rent seeking is inherent in government regulation of business. Don’t like it, stop treating “deregulation” or “unregulated” as dirty words.

  11. Invisible Super Monkey says:

    HAH! Don’t you know ‘evidence’ only makes the faith even stronger!?

  12. astonishingly dumb hv says:

    I feel like the Wisconsin GOP knows they are in for an accounting, and have decided to “pull the goalie.”

  13. Next up: Walker outlaws your mom’s apple pie.

  14. BarneyFranksSpeechTherapist says:

    Not all politicians act true to form. Has President Obama stopped the Bush administration policy of extra-judicial murder? Nope. Just last week more people were killed in Pakistan by predator strikes. Are we at war with Pakistan? When is the next anti-war demonstration?

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