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Trump’s Capture of the Republican Party is Far From Mysterious

[ 73 ] August 13, 2017 |

As many of you remember, just last year Perfesser Glenn Reynolds defended the summary execution of demonstrators with vehicles, and then reiterated his defense of the summary execution of demonstrators with vehicles. (Today, he found Trump’s embarrassing Both Sides Do It speech very compelling.) But what’s the big deal, you might ask — Reynolds is just wingnut with an extensive history of eliminationist rhetoric.

The problem is the number of Republican legislators who are indistinguishable from crackpot bloggers:

A different strategy in some recent laws invites vigilantism. A bill introduced in Tennessee would immunize drivers who injure a person who is participating in a protest or demonstration and is blocking traffic in a public right of way. Florida has a similar bill. Although both bills include language stressing that the motorist’s act must not be intentional, the clear message is that drivers inconvenienced by demonstrations should be able to take matters into their own hands. (One can hear echoes of the call, on Twitter, by the blogger, USA Today columnist, and University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds, during protests in Charlotte, to “run them down.”)

Neiether Trump nor James Alex Fields came from nowhere.

Shorter Verbatim Glenn Reynolds: “The roots of this are in the Obama Justice Department’s refusal to prosecute armed Black Panthers who stood outside polling places. That small initial tear in the social fabric has continued to unravel.”

[via Manju]

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  • Unemployed_Northeastern

    Ah, Glenn Reynolds. When he took his little Twitter sabbatical a year or two ago, it was said he had tweeted like a half million times or something. I found the rough date he joined Twitter and did the math, and it worked out to like 250 tweets per day, 365 days per year. Which is just further evidence that the only people who have more free time than unemployed law school graduates are employed law school professors.

    • Wojciech

      Well, at least we know who could become the next Attorney General if Sessions is gone.

      In fact, I’m surprised that Reynolds isn’t working in the Trump Justice Department in some capacity.

      • Tige Gibson

        Trump is trying to keep the payroll down. He’s used to running businesses that are perpetually bankrupt.

    • Lit3Bolt

      My uncle fucked his mom.

      True story. She was a infamous Knoxville harlot.

      I’m embarrassed that he claims to represent UTK. His main gig now is selling 1488 T-shirts and writing 1488 articles in the WSJ.

      Glenn Reynolds will be mentioned along with Drudge in the chapter about America’s inevitable decline on the world stage because of white American feelwiwgs, and masturbatory inaction by hapless bystanders like David Brooks, Tom Friedman, Andrew Sullivan, Matt Stone, and Trey Parker.

      • Phil Perspective

        … because of white American feelwiwgs, and masturbatory inaction by hapless bystanders like David Brooks, Tom Friedman, Andrew Sullivan, Matt Stone, and Trey Parker.

        Don’t forget to add Peter Beinart to that list!!

        • Dr. Waffle

          For once, Phil, I agree with you. Liberals (like Beinart and Chait) and leftists (like Nagle) who’ve bitched about antifa/campus protests really need to reevaluate things in light of yesterday’s terrorist attack.

          • JMV Pyro

            I remain, let’s just say less then impressed, that Vox has continued to have Sean Illing’s interview with her where they go on about “why you no allow Milo free speech Tumblr Liberals” even after yesterday’s attack.

            • stepped pyramids

              Agreed. They also managed to step on their own dicks by applying one of their standard headline styles:

              Neo-Nazis are rallying in Virginia today. Here’s how to think about the alt-right.

              First of all, a lot of the people at this rally are not the type of “alt-right” Nagle writes about. You could see that a lot of them were older and associated with more established white supremacist groups. This was not a 4chan rally.

              Second, come the fuck on, don’t tell me “here’s how to think about [issue]”, Vox. Especially when you’re referring to a controversial book by a single writer. (And the interview even briefly touches on the fact that she has critics from the left.)

        • TJ

          And don’t forget to add Lemieux too!

          You said masturbatory inaction? That’s like the perfect label for his defense blackface!

      • MariedeGournay

        Christ I hate South Park.

      • ringtail

        1488 stuff? Like the neonazi symbols? Really?

        • firefall

          ?? I didnt think the battle of Sauchieburn was that controversial

      • Tricia Dennis

        I am mortified that the same law school that granted my degree employs this malefactor Reynolds. Having him represent Tennessee’s flagship university plays into every stereotype of Tennessee as a backward, reactionary state.

        • david spikes

          Perhaps that’s because all the evidence is that Tennessee is a backward, reactionary state-and that understates the actual situation.

        • darumax

          Still embarrassing for California that Berkeley Law employs this guy.

          • Unemployed_Northeastern

            But it makes for a nice retort anytime someone goes off on “crazy liberal Berkeley.”

            • Larry M

              That’s someone confusing the “crazy liberal” town and the not so liberal UC.

        • David

          UTK is really only the flagship because it has the cash from athletics. Because college is about sports, not learning.

          Nashville and Memphis are your only blue islands in a sea of red. Which is sad because Knoxville is a college town and I would have expected something more…purple maybe?

      • Origami Isopod

        harlot

        What the fuck is this misogynist shit? Especially considering we’re talking about Reynolds here, not his mother?

        Also, why am I the first person to have called it out?

        • Murc

          This happens in every thread about a conservative lady… but usually it’s about the lady in question. This sort of bank shot is… new.

          I’ve said it before and I will again; we can vilify a woman who deserves it without using terms that exist only to vilify women.

        • And why are there upvotes?

          I flagged it and now have blocked the user. Maybe the last is a mistake.

          • Murc

            The weird thing is that as near as I can recall L3B has been a productive commentator.

      • RogerAiles

        Has paternity been confirmed?

  • estebanico

    Trump’s “all sides do it and it’s very old” speech today far more accurately captures the GOP voter mood than do the speeches from Cory Gardner and Ted Cruz and others demanding that he repudiate white supremacy. The GOP is a white nationalist party right now.

    • ema

      The GOP is a white nationalist party right now.

      That, and so much more:

      “It is not enough that conservatives be a conquering army, we must be an army of occupation.”

  • Philip

    Apropos of nothing, I’ve been listening to I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill a lot today. I wonder how many more people are going to have to die to put American Nazism back in the ground. A lot of people I care about have been putting their bodies on the line to keep Nazis and their ideological cousins out, all over the country. If it had been in California rather than Virginia, there’s a good chance I’d have been in the crowd the car hit, marching with the DSA myself. It’s hard not to wonder, if this keeps escalating, how long it’ll be before I lose friends.

    This wasn’t exactly how I was looking to spend my 20s.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8Kxq9uFDes

    • D. C. Sessions

      This wasn’t exactly how I was looking to spend my 20s.

      A lot of us weren’t looking to spend ours in Vietnam, either.

      “Interesting times” happen. The past 40 years weren’t great, but maybe they were better than we realized.

  • shah8

    I guess this just-out ProPublica is sort of relevant:

    https://www.propublica.org/article/police-stood-by-as-mayhem-mounted-in-charlottesville

    Nope, they didn’t come from nowhere…

  • Manju

    Scott, I think you missed this Reynold’s response to the White Supremacist march:

    BERKELEY EAST: Charlottesville declares state of emergency before white supremacist rally begins.

    The roots of this are in the Obama Justice Department’s refusal to prosecute armed Black Panthers who stood outside polling places. That small initial tear in the social fabric has continued to unravel.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/272704/

    To be fair, he has not mentioned rap music.

    • JMP

      Um, none of those new ‘Black Panthers’ were armed. Is he so scared of black men he actually thinks their hands are weapons?

      • DocAmazing

        They were armed, and also legged.

      • In this reality, those men were not armed. In Conservative World, those Black Panthers were toting automatic weapons, grenade launchers, and truncheons. The blocked the doors to the polling place, and only allowed White people in if the Whites promised to vote for Obama.
        That really is the story as it’s told among conservatives.

      • Bruce Baugh

        I would assume he’s got fantasies of them dropping their trousers and using their mighty penises as weapons.

        • billcinsd

          Why must they laugh at me mighty sword

    • FlipYrWhig

      the Obama Justice Department’s refusal to prosecute armed Black Panthers who stood outside polling places

      Right, Glenn, that was _definitely_ the origin of the struggle over voting rights and inclusive politics.

      • Emily68

        The Panthers got off on the technicality of not having broken any laws.

        • gyrfalcon

          Give Sessions time, I’m sure he can craft a regulation against “Respirating While Excessively Melanin-Infused” that comes with a mandatory death penalty.

    • Marlowe

      And, of course, while the failure to prosecute imaginary armed Black Panthers outside polling places is a seminal cause of the collapse of Western Civilization, the prosecution of armed whites outside polling places would be an affront to the expression of their Second Amendment rights.

    • Just, no.

    • mortimer2000

      According to Reynolds, brandishing AR-15s at Applebees by open-carry assholes is merely having a visible firearm, which is not the least bit intimidating. No, seriously. So even if the pseudo-Panthers had weapons, according to Reynolds it’s not the “armed” part that made them threatening and subject to prosecution. Must be something else. Can’t put my trigger finger on it.

  • Dr. Waffle

    I made the mistake of opening Twitter today and witnessing leftists and liberals arguing about the fucking primaries. If there was ever a time to stop relitigating Hillary Clinton vs. Bernie Sanders, it’s fucking now. We all need each other in order to defeat Donald Trump and his fascist supporters.

    • Wojciech

      “Nach Trump, uns!” dies hard amongst the “bend the knee” crowd, I see.

      • Dr. Waffle

        Yeah, and they need to drop that attitude. Leftists can’t win without liberals, and vice versa.

        • no, they surely can.

          there are far more people in the middle-left than there are on the left-left. if the left-left doesn’t want to join the coalition, they might just find themselves without any influence at all.

    • stepped pyramids

      Other countries understood that defeating fascism takes priority over intra-left squabbles:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_front

      The truce has to go both ways, though. Both the left and the center-left need to stop antagonizing each other and overemphasizing their differences.

      • Dr. Waffle

        Agreed. There’s a lot of ill will on both sides of this particular divide, some of which is justified. But ultimately that matters less than taking power back from the reactionaries.

    • rm

      Arrgh, the Bernie people on my facebook. Apparently Bernie’s organization Revolution Something Or Other were at the DNC offices the other day — the Heart of Darkness — and came away incensed that they were offered donuts. Also that the DNC staff did not apologize, resign en masse, and hand over the keys to the revolution.

      Seriously, I think that happened. And the too-radical-for-party-politics people were thoroughly convinced something terrible had happened.

      • why, it’s almost as if perpetual outrage is what these people live for.

        • Uncle_Ebeneezer

          And it’s also, as if, tearing down the Dem Party is their main priority

        • david spikes

          Worshipers at The Shrine of Our Lady of Perpetual Outrage-we’re mad and we’re glad.

      • Micheál Keane

        It’s kind of hilarious that Our Revolution could only scrape up ten more people than the Seth Rich conspiracy theorists who marched on the DNC last month.

  • JMP

    I thought I remembered some far-right shit advocating exactly what was done today in the recent past. But what are the chances Glenny will actually apologize?

    • Dr. Waffle

      None. He’s a shameless piece of shit.

      • Sentient AI From The Future

        Maybe our own dilan will apologize for his mealy-mouthed defense of this idea. I’d love to see that. But right now he says he’s mostly lurking, and I’d prefer it stay that way.

    • NeonTrotsky

      If you go to their blogs or whatever you’ll see them talk about “Physical Removal” which is basically just killing lefties.

  • MariedeGournay

    They’ve been creeping online for years. From newspaper comments, to 4chan to the asshole dps making dungeon runs hell, they’ve been there. They’ve just been looking for someone in power to say, “I got you.” The old Internet anonymity equation was wrong. These monsters never wanted to wear masks, and now they believe they don’t have to because they know there’s so many others like them.

  • ploeg

    To be certain, vehicular responses to protests can be taken the other way. However, sane and responsible people would be content with plugging electronic Nazis in Castle Wolfenstein and punching real-life Nazis when they say something provocative. Allowing folks to live out such fantasies is obviously not good policy.

  • efgoldman

    I’m going to assume that the three clergy in the center if the OP picture were there trying to calm things down, and not in support of the nazi pond scum.

    • MikeG

      I think the pic is a line of Nazis walking past counter-demonstrators. Not sure who the “medic” in the foreground is with.

      • keta

        Yep.

        The medic is a three percenter. Also note the idiot with the Confederate flag is wearing a baseball helmet while the schmuck behind him is wearing a hockey helmet.

        “Protocol, people! When marching in line football helmets lead baseball helmets lead hockey helmets. You synchronized swimmers with the noseplugs – always in back, and for fuck’s sake if you wade into battle try to stay out of camera range!”

    • personwhoreadssometimes

      Correct assumption. The clergy and allied local counter-protesters are pictured linking arms. Their goal was to keep the Nazis out of emancipation park. This lead to retaliation by the Nazis, with Nazis reportedly assaulting members of the clergy with weapons. That’s when the cops declared it an unlawful assembly and shut down the gathering. (unfortunately, after the official rally was cancelled, everyone left the area to a location with little police presence and that’s where tragedy ensued.) but the clergy were heroes.

  • I don’t know if there is a better place to put it but there are a few things that I think need to be pointed out that haven’t been emphasized enough as to why this went so disastrously:

    1. Charlottesville is a small city, made up mostly of students, older, very well-off white people, and a minority of black people generally relatively decently employed working for the school or in the economic sprawl it generates. Since school was there were very few people under 30 in town. Earlier this year Spencer’s group did the torchlite Nazi ralley thing with maybe a few score people around the Lee statue, but nothing really happened. I was out of the loop and though this was going to be another nothingburger like that, or I would have been at the counter protests.

    The upshot is that, even in small city like Charlottesville, where you could have still expected at least a 3-1 If not 4-1 or greater ratio of counter protesters to nazis–if school was in and we knew what was coming–the counter-protester were just on par. This doesn’t even factor in the many 3 or 4 schools within a 3 hour drive that have 25+ thousand students. So again if this were to happen again in September I would expect 30k+ counter demonstrators to the 4000 Nazis.

    This is part of the reason they target Charlottesville at this timing and they don’t go an hour down the road to neighboring Richmond, which has way bigger statues and is a way more apropos place to have a white supremacy rally. But also has a large, 70% black population in the city and a metro of 1 million plus to draw on, and a more experienced police force. Let alone place like Raleigh, Atlanta, NO, Baltimore, DC…

    2. The Nazis came with oathkeepers, complete with assault rifles. The police didnt break it up sooner because they were outgunned! This is completely unacceptable. The right to “peacefully assemble” cannot mean you assemble fully ready for combat with your finger on the trigger. This has to be addressed. At the very, very least, open carry as part of a demonstration in a population center has to be banned.

    Apparently some Nazis are doing something this upcoming Saturday at the Boston Commons. The good news is that none of these factors translate to Boston. If that one manages to get out of hand I think it’s safe to say that Neo-nazism is the biggest threat to our country at this time.

    • The Nazis came with oathkeepers

      I think this is one word that I’d advocate strongly for always putting inside scare quotes, or prefaced with “so-called”.

      • Fixed!

      • Origami Isopod

        I think “Oathkeepers,” the proper noun, is fine because that’s what the group has been known by for many years. But “pathetic snowflakes” works for me too.

        • Are you confounding them with the “Promise Keepers”? Wikipedia sez OKs, “an association of current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders [was] founded in 2009.” The PKs are former athletes, and PK was founded in 1990. They’re both groups of assholespathetic snowflakes, but while I could get behind calling 27 “many”, if I had to do the same for 8, I might melt a bit myself.

    • rm

      I don’t want to make assumptions about a college-town police force that has never faced this before and probably lacks all that military surplus equipment that suburban towns like to stockpile . . . .

      But I can’t get out of my mind the contrast between the occupying-army-like response to peaceful unarmed protesters in Ferguson, vs. the inadequate preparation for an army of nazis who came with shields and clubs and their own rifle-toting paramilitary.

      The reason Ferguson has such equipment, and Charlottesville doesn’t, is race. The police might have been outgunned and surprised, but the reason for that is systemic racism.

      That said, the police force of Pikeville, Kentucky a few months ago understood that you confine nazi demonstrators to a pen enclosed by armed police, and stand between the nazis and the townspeople.

  • Teaser for a story I don’t feel much like reading, that’s just appeared on the Boston Globe’s homepage:

    Suspect’s mother: ‘I thought [rally] had something to do with Trump’

    You were right, ma’am; it had everything to do with Trump.

    • Hogan

      David Duke, the former KKK grand wizard, is unambiguousabout what Saturday’s alt-right and neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville,Virginia, means to him: It’s the fulfillment of President Trump’s vision for America.

      “We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said from the rally, calling it a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”

      Says so right on the tin.