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“The most anti-slavery Democratic Chief Justice in history!” –Zaid Jilani, 1857

Zaid Jilani has tweeted the most ridiculous thing ever, a record that will stand until the next time Jilani tweets something:

I…wow:

  • Even the original tweet was incredibly silly.* Trump had nominate Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, and Jeff Sessions as his Attorney General. He was an anti-LBGT president, and thinking his stray comments during the campaign outweighs that is the kind of logic that compels you to praise John McCain for making speeches that are wholly inconsistent with his actions.
  • To double down after he announced that he was banning transgender people from the military is amazing even by the standards of the easiest Republican mark among paid nominally leftist writers.
  • You have to love the “most pro-LBGT Republican Party ever!” metric. On tonight’s epiosde of Quantum Leap, Zaid Jilani travels to 1868 and proclaims that Horatio Seymour is leading the most pro-civil rights Democratic Party ever, even if it still has to pander to its white supremacist minority faction from time to time.
  • The key here is the “it doesn’t count because he’s just pandering to a ‘minority faction'” defense. This is the key to false equivalence at a time of a historically large gap between the parties — when Democrats do or say liberal things they don’t count because they’re just pandering, and when Republicans do or say bad things they don’t count because they’re just pandering.
  • And, of course, the idea that anti-LBGT reactionaries are a minority faction within the GOP is insane.
  • Which leads us to a serious point. Jilani is a buffoon, but the idea that SSM is now pretty much a settled question across party line isn’t just something that people who think the Republicans will bring us single payer any day now believe. And the idea is both wrong and pernicious. Most Republican voters and public officials still oppose SSM, and would vote to restore bans if they could. And if The Most Pro-LBGT President in Republican Party History (TM) gets one or especially two more Supreme Court nominations, they may well get that opportunity.

*A couple of commenters correctly noted that the original tweet was from April 2016, not 2017. So let me amend that to say that it’s silly to weigh Trump’s stray comments more than the fact that he would nominate an orthodox reactionary like Gorusch to the Supreme Court and nominate someone like Jeff Sessions to be the Attorney General, both of which were well known at the time.

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  • That “next time Zaid tweets something:”
    https://twitter.com/GaryLegum/status/890399671914553344

    He’s not just dumb for a human, he’s dumb for a chordate.

    • SatanicPanic

      Holy shit that’s stupid.

      • Didn’t he use to not be a total fucking idiot?

        • SatanicPanic

          I don’t know. My introduction to him came from LGM mocking him

          • Kevin

            My intro to him was reading the Intercept during the election in horror as they hyped every Podesta email as scandal. The two names I came across most often were Fang and Jilani, and i quickly realized after a Twitter search that these were two very stupid people. Jilani moreso, but Fang is also a clown. Learning that they worked with Matt Bruening makes me want to send gift baskets to everyone else who had to work in that office with them.

        • Scott Lemieux

          I have have literally never encountered him writing something that isn’t baldly stupid

          • Lost Left Coaster

            I think I followed him on Twitter for like two weeks and had to unfollow to prevent further searing pain to my eyeballs.

    • DamnYankeesLGM

      Ok, maybe I’m out of the loop. What does ‘go on chapo’ mean?

      • nemdam

        You are lucky. I advise you stay out of the loop.

        But if you insist: https://newrepublic.com/article/143926/dirtbag-left-problem-dominance-politics

      • DN Nation

        Whenever a normally not-leftist writer (think Jeet Heer or Matt Yglesias or Dave Weigel) vaguely supports something leftist on the tweets, the Brooklynite daddy’s-money crowd will tell that writer to go on Bob And Tom For Disaffected Millennials ahem sorry Chapo Trap House.

        • Jeet is fairly leftist, albeit generally not a firebrand.

          • DN Nation

            Yeah, that’s true. Which makes the occasional Two Minutes Hate they have on him all the more ridiculous.

            • Craigo

              I can’t imagine why mediocre white men would hate Jeet Heer.

        • Murc

          Matt Yglesias may not be a leftist, but he’s solidly liberal and his politics are diametrically opposed to Bannons.

          • DN Nation

            Right, it’s normally not a right-winger they do that for. It’s for something like…

            Matt Y.: I’ve crunched the numbers and my new piece on Vox shows that Bernie’s the legit 2020 Dem frontrunner.
            Brooklynite: Matt go on Chapo

            You don’t do the Go On Chapo thing for a HONKIN NAZI, unless dripping with sarcasm, and nothing in Zaid’s oeuvre leads me to believe that’s what he was doing.

          • Warren Terra

            Yglesias isn’t precisely, uniformly, solidly liberal – he has a real hate for some land use regulations and occupational licensing, and isn’t great on labor issues generally. But he’s often smart on other issues, and certainly hates what the Republicans have become.

            • Craigo

              Why are some land-use regulations and occupational licensing presumed to be liberal?

              “Single-family homes only” is an extremely common land-use regulation, and not at all liberal.

              • Cassiodorus

                Good question. Then again, I share Yglesias’s quirky position on those two issues.

                • Craigo

                  I do too, and I’m certain that there are zoning and occupational regimes that are progressive – but I’d like to see evidence that Yglesias opposes those specifically. I see a lot of mocking of him on this issue in general, but never a specific critique.

                • Warren Terra

                  I probably share some of Yglesias’s positions on issues of land use and maybe professional licensing, but I worry that the way he raises them he winds up with some very unfortunate allies and associations, and doesn’t necessarily do enough to distinguish himself from them.

                • Craigo

                  That would be a fair concern, but I don’t know if I would always share it.

                  The fight against Measure S here in LA put affordable-housing advocates on the side of real estate developers, and I don’t think any of them had regrets about that. I don’t. When they’re right, they’re right.

            • joel_hanes

              I read Yglesias for years.
              He is consistently, predictably, blinkered and wrong about education policy.
              But then so was Arne Duncan.

            • Lost Left Coaster

              My biggest problem with Yglesias is that he is all too happy to weigh in on topics that he knows absolutely jack shit about.

              • liberalrob

                Yeah, wouldn’t it be a much better world if everyone stayed out of discussions on topics they knew nothing about…

                • Lost Left Coaster

                  Whoa whoa whoa, I wasn’t, like, proposing that we all stop commenting at LGM. I meant people like Yglesias who have a big platform and a paycheck and all that. The rest of us can keep up with our normal hobby.

                • liberalrob

                  It just struck me as a bit ironic. “Big Media Matt” turned our hobby into his career, so what he does for money is bad while we who do it for free is fine.

                • Lost Left Coaster

                  “what he does for money is bad while we who do it for free is fine.”

                  There, you got it. We agree.

            • Justin Runia

              This is the point where “liberal” starts unraveling and turning into “neo-liberal”, depending on your particular political compass.

              • Warren Terra

                “neoliberal” is a largely vague term of hate and derision nowadays, mostly used to indicate someone is vastly better than any Republican but disagrees with me on some issues (often ones where they’re with the vast majority of Americans, for better or worse) so I will destroy them at whatever cost.

                Basically, my starting assumption is that anyone using the term “neoliberal” in anything other than a very precise manner is an idiot.

                • SpiderDan

                  Not to rehash posts from a week ago, but the problem with using neoliberal in a “very precise manner” is that unless you immediately spell out EXACTLY what you meant when you used it, readers will take the widely varying – but uniformly negative – meanings and run with them. So what use is a word that has such a wide range of accepted meanings that you have to immediately explain what you meant? Better to save time and just substitute the intended definition in the first place, or save even more time and just say “terrible” instead.

                • Warren Terra

                  Yah, I didn’t participate in the LGM “neoliberal” definition debate, because tiresome.

            • Do you know who else had a real hate for some land use regulations?

              • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

                Colin Wilson? Heitor Villa-Lobos? Jensen Ackles? Am I warm?

            • sharculese

              I may have missed it, but it’s seems like MattY has stopped bringing up his terrible “barber’s licenses are stupid” argument.

              • Warren Terra

                I don’t think he’s stopped believing that stuff so much as with all hands to the fire pumps combating Trump’s insanities and vandalism large and small it’s not a priority.

                He referred to it in passing, possibly making fun of himself, in a recent episode of the Vox podcast The Weeds.

            • humanoidpanda

              I think most liberals hate land use regulations.

              • spencer_e9876

                I don’t, if they’re well-crafted. I do hate the land use regulations that created our national sprawlscape, though.

      • The Great God Pan

        Chap Trap House in a nutshell, in their own words:

        “Strategically and politically, I think we must declare eternal, holy war on the Democratic Party, because they’re the ones that let [Trump’s electoral win] happen,” [said Chapo cohost Will Menaker].

        “Yeah,” [Felix] Biederman said. “The Democratic leadership has to be purged. Our mission statement, for the time being, is to paint these targets.”

        I asked them if they blamed the Party exclusively [for Trump winning the election]. Didn’t it make sense to attribute some of the fault with the people who chose Trump … ? They scoffed.

        “Even if you do blame the electorate, where do you go from there?” Biederman asked. “Do we shame these people into liking us?” .

        • Murc

          What’s so annoying about this specifically to me is that they come so close and then miss.

          It isn’t wrong, per se, to want to reform the Democratic Party from within and to purge it of leadership you perceive as being not ideologically congenial, incompetent, or both.

          But in order to do that, you need to build institutional support within the party to make that happen. Democratic leaders who are elected officials are selected in a bottom-up process by the voters they represent. Ones who aren’t elected officials are selected by members of the Democratic Party who care about the party so much they’ve worked their asses off to occupy positions of power within it. (And contrary to popular belief, you usually cannot get rich doing this, although you can certainly enter a high level as a rich person.) In order to bring about change, you’re going to have to convince these people to come around to your point of view and install leaders more to your liking.

          And they just don’t seem to apply the same standards they do to the electorate as a whole to this enterprise. They’re right that you can’t shame people into liking you. But if they actually believe that, then the stance they’re taking towards Democrats, which is nearly entirely shame-based with regard to anyone who isn’t already ideologically aligned with them, is badly wrongheaded.

          • sharculese

            I mean, the Jeet Heer piece basically summed it up. They said the Democratic Party has to “bend the knee” to them, and they mean. It. They don’t want to be part of a coalition, they want total submission, and they don’t want to have to work for it.

          • Mayur

            No they fucking don’t come close, Murc. The actual statement, read as a whole, is a naked attack on the Democratic Party essentially on behalf of the Republicans as the Reps’ useful idiots. “Painting targets” on Dems in the current environment of Trump’s people destroying Democratic achievement after achievement and imperiling the environment, human lives and general well-being as well as global stability is fucking treasonous in no measure less than what Addison M. McConnell and his cohorts are doing.

            Fuck them. Since I live infinitely closer to these assholes than I do to the hardcore Trump boosters (have to ferry over to Staten Island or drive out to Great Neck for them), I seriously look forward to smacking one in the grill at some point. These are terrible, terrible people with stupidity and toxicity levels only a degree or too below that of the Mooch.

        • Thlayli

          Do we shame these people into liking us?

          Seems to me like that’s their plan for the Democratic electorate.

          • dcavea

            That’s the thing! I AGREE with them that shaming the broader electorate will not work, and that it is decidedly counterproductive to treat each and every Trump voter as a racist moron. Heck, I actually agree with them on many policy matters and would be quite happy to see a more left-wing Democratic Party! I just also think that deriding and tearing down everyone even slightly to the right of me is neither justifiable nor effective.

            So why can’t they see that shaming the more moderate Democrats seldom works either?

      • JMP

        I thought I was the only one! All this talk about “chapo” without any explanation as to what the hell that is.

        • The Great God Pan

          Chapo Trap House is an extremely popular (by podcast standards) leftist podcast started by three popular denizens of “Weird Twitter.”

          The three core hosts are “irony bros,” basically super-annuated fratboys with the sensibilities of Trump-loving teens who piss off the squares all day long by posting Nazi Pepe memes, except they somehow turned out to be socialists so the squares are registered Democrats and the Pepe memes are jokes about HRC falling down and vomiting on her pantsuits.

          • sharculese

            Weird Twitter is basically propped up by the denizens of old FYAD. They’re nihilists, and some of them have found raving about the Democratic Party to be a good outlet for their nihilism.

            The better thing to do is just listen to Your Kickstarter Sucks, which is only kind of less dude-broey but at least makes a good point about crowdfunding.

    • nemdam

      I hope he does go on Chapo because it is a fact that they would fawn all over Bannon, claim that Bannon is a true leftist and because he has Trump’s ear, that Trump himself is also a true leftist.

      • gwen

        Bah. I am a frequent Chapo listener. The grey wolves would eat Bannon alive and not in an enjoyable (for him) way.

        It’s true that the Chapo crew are generally low-brow contrarians, but they aren’t stupid.

      • Murc

        This seems unlikely. The fact that they’re assholes doesn’t mean they actually like them some nazis.

        I’ve listened to some Chapo. I don’t think I’ll listen to much more. I’m completely unsurprised by their massive and intense popularity; the politics of the moment are such that there’s a large appetite for fiery, take-no-prisoners authenticity on the left, and they deliver that.

        But the thing is… well, they’re assholes. They seem like bad people. They’re awful to folks who don’t deserve people being awful to them and they’re pretty bad on matters of race and gender, which are kind of fuckin’ important.

        I want to like them. When they stop hooting and hollering like monkeys looking for the next person to hurl a handful of crap at and talk about substantive policy their views often mirror my own. And I would absolutely love it if the centrist wing of the Demcoratic Party bent the knee to the leftist wing in the same way that Republican centrists respond with “please sir, can I have another?” every time the rightward edge of the party belts them across the face.

        But they don’t seem to have an actual plan to do that. The Republicans achieved the situation they’re in right now by co-opting their centrist wing with a combination of internally imposed fear, bottom-up grassroots organizing, and by telling the many millions of independent and moderate Republican voters all kinds of lies. Menaker doesn’t seem to have any kind of plan to replicate that on that left; he seems to literally think that if Chuck Schumer and Dianne Feinstein swear fealty to Bernie Sanders and receive their swords back from him, he will rule over the Democratic Party as its liege lord. It doesn’t work like that. It’s never worked like that.

        And again… they seem like bad people.

        • JMV Pyro

          I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until I tuned into their feeds and noticed all the autism jokes.

          Like you said, they’re just assholes at the end of the day.

          • nemdam

            Hmm. I missed the autism jokes because I busy reading the jokes mocking a rape victim. If this is authentic left politics, count me out.

            • tsam100

              It’s not authentic left politics. These are edgelord assholes that fell out of 4Chan and Reddit. They might have some genuinely leftist values, but I think they’d discard them at the first sign of something that makes them look more like even bigger edgelords.

          • They also told Jeet to get David Frum’s dick out of his mouth after his TNR piece blew up. That put aside any interest in listening in what they had to say (they’re basically a less-rapey version of eXiled Online).

          • brad

            And their response to criticism of being, in so many words, bullies is a classic tell, in that they accuse mainstream Dems of being bullies first and worst.
            Whatever the flavors of their politics, first and foremost it’s about them being right, and forcing others to thank them for it and follow.

        • gwen

          They remind me of when I was in college and me and the other pasty members of the college Democrats club would go out drinking and trying to impress each other with our (I apologize for the anachronistic reference, but it basically fits) Malcolm Tucker impressions.

          • gwen

            Or to put it another way, bad people are my kinda people.

            I mean, maybe this is a red state thing, but the hegemonic messaging especially among the white not-terribly-poor folks is, “the Democrats are terrible, they turned me into a newt.”

            In my mind, that makes having a Democratic-stamped voter registration card a punk rock status symbol.

            • spencer_e9876

              In my mind, that makes having a Democratic-stamped voter registration card a punk rock status symbol.

              That was exactly my experience growing up in a red state as well.

        • Scott Lemieux

          Yeah whatever my disagreements with the Chapo guys, while they hate the Dems just as much they’re not nearly as credulous about the Republicans as people like Zaid and Michael Tracey.

          • Abigail Nussbaum

            Give them time. The standard trajectory for people like this is:

            1) set yourself up as saviors of the left
            2) turns out your idea of “left” puts straight white men in the center and either ignores or outright alienates women, POC, and LGBT people
            3) get called out for (2)
            4) react badly to (3)
            5) get embraced by your equivalent shock-jocks on the right for (4)
            6) go where your bread is buttered

            • They’re currently at Stage (4).

            • nemdam

              Exactly. Michael Tracey and Freddie deBoer can show them the way.

            • Murc

              Abigail, every time I read one of your comments I always think “Abigail has a blog. I should go to that blog and read her words, because her words are excellent.”

              I don’t do this because I’m lazy but I do think it.

              In fact, with SEK having departed this vale of tears and Steven snowed under with his career and his ASOIAF work, I would endorse you making some guest posts on pop culture here.

              • IM

                “I don’t do this because I’m lazy but I do think it.”

                Doing a McCain then.

                • Warren Terra

                  No, McCain doesn’t just think it. He doesn’t even just say it; he books a pres conference, proudly takes up a stance as the most principled person ever to exist, and says he invented and exmplifies the notion. Then, after accepting the plaudits of a grateful nation, he doesn’t do it, or does the opposite.

              • Scott Lemieux

                This is a good idea!

                • Abigail Nussbaum

                  It’s certainly an intriguing one! I’ll keep an eye out for a suitable topic.

            • dcavea

              That sounds horribly plausible.

              Ironically, it also sounds similar to the process that effected various neoconservatives and iraq war hawks.

        • ColBatGuano

          their massive and intense popularity

          Are they massively popular? Having a popular podcast is like being the most famous mime. Your following may be dedicated, but it’s not that big and to ascribe to them great power seems a mistake. I know us left-of-center folks like to believe the revolution is coming, but perhaps a wider perspective is in order?

          • Murc

            You are correct that I’ve maybe overstated things, but… they get people pay them something north of three quarters of a million dollars a year for their opinions and analysis. And not some news organization they’ve managed to con, either, just regular joes on the internet who liked them enough to sign up for their Patreon.

            If I were popular enough to get people to put me in the one percent just because they liked what I saying, I’d count myself pretty successful.

        • david spikes

          So let me see, the GOP fucked itself by letting its extreme wing dictate to it but the cure for demo angst is to give its extreme wing carte blanche to dictate its policy.
          Somehow I don’t think your proposal is as good as you think it is.

        • jim, some guy in iowa

          I’ll *never* “bend my knee” to you, Murc. Outvote me, motherfucker, and we’ll go from there

      • DN Nation

        Nah, the Chapo crew may regret that their romantic concept of WWC are now Republicans, but it doesn’t mean they actually fawn over the hard-right. Like, say, Zaid, or Michael Tracey.

        • Scott Lemieux

          You beat me to it!

        • tsam100

          But get this through your fucking head: You must bend the knee to us. Not the other way around. You have been proven as failures, and your entire worldview has been discredited.

          There’s only one good response to this, which is bashing that moron in his fucking mouth. I bend the knee to nobody, motherfucker. If you think you’re tough enough, try to make me.

          • Captain_Subtext

            Yes This^^^! What about egalitarian do these people not get?

    • Aaron Morrow

      So he’s only a Nationalist Populist? *whew*

      • Warren Terra

        It’s almost impressive to see Zaid looking at the openly Nazi tendencies of the Breitbart Right and, seizing on the central claim of Jonah Goldberg’s magnus derpus Liberal Fascism, pronouncing them to be a bit nationalist, yes, regrettably, but also wonderfully, sincerely socialist!

      • Marlowe

        Is that something like a National Socialist?

        • Aaron Morrow

          I can at least confirm the antisemitism and the fascism.

        • nemdam

          More like a National Socialist American Workers Party.

          • Marlowe

            But they’d hold their meetings in German, of course. As with Pat Buchanan’s 1992 Rethuglican convention speech, this stuff always sounds better in the original Deutsch.

            • Warren Terra

              I miss Molly Ivins’s voice so terribly.

          • Warren Terra

            National Socialist Definitely American Party?

      • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

        I’ve gotten to be very wary of that “populist” part.

    • Murc

      I mean… narrowly, this is true. Bannon actually believes in white nationalism, in the volk in herrenvolk democracy getting resources lavished upon them. That’s not really believed by the rest of the GOP, who don’t think the moochers deserve one red cent regardless of race.

      So yeah, that’s narrowly correct, but it doesn’t really make Bannon look better.

      • Craigo

        Raising the top earned income bracket slightly only sounds like a firebeathing populist move if you don’t know that capital gains, dividends, and business income are far, far larger drivers of inequality.

        Bannon knows this, but most of his fans don’t.

        • Warren Terra

          Especially since other aspects of the Trump plan, presumably untouched by Bannon, greatly privilege corporate income, including personal income declared as corporate (Trump is majority or sole owner of dozens or hundreds of accounting-fiction corporations).

          • Craigo

            Ah, I missed that. Slick.

        • mongolia

          plus, if they are able to get their way, they could potentially start using selective enforcement of the tax code in such a way as to attack their (perceived or real) enemies – denying tax deductions for tech companies like amazon that they give to companies like exxon, for example

    • FMguru

      It is really weird how alt-lefties contort their reasoning. An archconservative with a ghastly record once said something about raising taxes or in opposition to US intervention abroad, which means he’s actually a secret lefty, while liberals all get their records scoured until some deviant wrongthink is discovered (twenty years ago they represented a bank as a lawyer!) and then they’re cast out as Pretty Much The Same As Republicans and Not A Dime’s Worth Etc.

      I’m already seeing lefties poke around in the records of Kamala Harris and Kristin Gillibrand for any little blip that they can point to and declare their candidacies fatally compromised, just the same as the Republicans, another goddamn neoliberal, and so on.

      • Solar System Wolf

        But of course they would be happy to vote for a woman. Just not one of those women. The woman hasn’t come along yet that they could back, but they aren’t misogynists. No, sir.

        • so-in-so

          “Why can’t a woman, be more like man?”

      • reattmore

        I’ve said this before, but it’s a simple syllogism:

        Democrats and Republicans are politicians.
        All politicians are liars.
        Democrats claim to be of the left; Republicans claim to be of the right.
        Therefore:
        Democrats are really of the right, while Republicans are the true leftists.

        Q. E. D.

    • reattmore

      Fairly typical for a nematode, though

    • A couple of commenters correctly noted that the original tweet was from April 2016, not 2017. So let me amend that to say that it’s silly to weigh Trump’s stray comments more than the fact that he would nominate an orthodox reactionary like Gorusch to the Supreme Court and nominate someone like Jeff Sessions to be the Attorney General, both of which were well known at the time.

  • Mike Hoyer

    I would think the “pandering to a minority” thing would make it count MORE. Like if you were pandering to the majority at least you could argue it’s just pragmatism and an unfortunate necessity.

  • “This is the key to false equivalence at a time of a historically large
    gap between the parties — when Democrats do or say liberal things they
    don’t count because they’re just pandering, and when Republicans do or
    say bad things they don’t count because they’re just pandering.”

    It is amazing to recall just how often this reasoning was used to argue that it was no big deal who won the election last year. The combination of “knowing” cynicism and wide-eyed naiveté on display was truly maddening, and explains rather a lot about where we are now.

    • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

      There was a historically large gap between the parties the day Obama was inaugurated, and the exact same people were doing the exact same shit then, and every single day since.

  • stepped pyramids

    Isn’t Jilani supposed to be a professional writer? I know plenty of people who can write tend to be more casual on Twitter — I certainly am — but he writes like a 12-year-old half the time.

  • Dr. Waffle

    The pro-Trump left at its finest. In related news: Glenn Greenwald and Tucker Carlson are becoming the bestest of friends: https://theintercept.com/2017/07/26/intercepted-podcast/.

    • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

      I think Tucker could definitely roll his tongue around a glans like there’s no tomorrow.

    • Warren Terra

      This is my surprised font.

    • liberalrob

      Fox News’s Tucker Carlson and Glenn find something they can actually
      agree on (the Democratic establishment’s Russia hysteria), but diverge
      on Tucker’s coverage of immigration and crime.

      Not quite bosom buddies. Still, agreeing with Tucker Carlson about anything is not a good look. Carlson is one of those people who, if you find yourself agreeing with him on something, should cause you to seriously rethink your position.

      • Dr. Waffle

        “This guy may be openly racist and run segments trashing the Roma, but at least he shares my disdain for the Democrats!” = not a good look.

    • Terok Nor

      I am shocked, shocked.

  • DN Nation

    Schtick And Bullshit Are The Same Thing As Policy: The Zaid Jilani Story in stores now! And if you purchase Jilani’s latest, we’ll throw in his first best-seller, Mister, The Dems Could Use A True Progressive Like Zell Miller These Days for free!

    • Drew Magary’s Why Your Team Sucks is just around the corner (hint hint)…

      • DN Nation

        Hoping to get my Falcons entry published for the third year in a row, but Lord knows there’s going to be some competition this year.

        • I suggested on Twitter that Scott could do the same thing this year, only for media outlets

      • FMguru

        First installment of WYTS just dropped today, starting with the Cleveland Browns.

  • nemdam

    Look, this just proves that Trump and Hillary are the same because when they both pander to their bases, even though the actions they take advance the causes of their base, they don’t really mean it! This also means Trump is actually a liberal and Hillary is actually a conservative.

    Even the original tweet was incredibly silly. Trump had nominate Neil
    Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, and Jeff Sessions as his Attorney General.
    He was an anti-LBGT president, and thinking his stray comments during
    the campaign outweighs that is the kind of logic that compels you to
    praise John McCain for making speeches that are wholly inconsistent with
    his actions.

    This. It’s the same kind of mindset that judges politicians on theater and not actions. This makes Zaid Jiliani basically a less fun version of Chris Cillizza. And yes, my computer burned pretty hot after I wrote that.

    • This makes Zaid Jiliani basically a less fun version of Chris Cillizza. And yes, my computer burned pretty hot after I wrote that.

      speaking of

      • nemdam

        Thanks for ruining my day.

        At the rate this guy fails upward, he will be running CNN in about a year, and the NYT in about two.

        • DN Nation

          Cillilililillllilliilillzza is the Lane Kiffin of media.

          • Aaron Morrow

            Lane Kiffin is the GWB of college football.

            EDIT: I forgot the 4-12 Raiders.

          • nemdam

            No joke, this is an insult to Lane Kiffin. Has Cillizza every done anything as good as Kiffin’s 10-2 year at USC? Or coordinated the offense of a a national champion? Or shown the humility that Kiffin did when he took the FAU job?

            Please note this is not praise of Kiffin.

      • SatanicPanic

        *facepalm*

      • Murc

        Good god, are those readership stats true?

        Why do so many people like the guy?

        • Hogan

          300 Billion Burgers Sold

      • stepped pyramids

        long a punching bag for fellow journalists who tend to be less adept at stacking up digital clicks people with brains and souls

        fixed typo

  • MariedeGournay

    Ah, scrubbing away Trump’s bigotry in service of perpetuating the “Hillary is a warmonger’ meme. Two acrid tastes that go atrocious together.

    • mongolia

      it’s not pandering when you try to explain away rank bigotry of people of the racist opposing political party.

      but when hillary says she’d sign a 15 $/hr minimum wage bill if it came to her desk – OMG PANDERING NEOLIBERAL SHILLLLLLLLLARY$$$$$

  • Hogan

    “Hillary’s wars.” As one refers to WWII as Cordell Hull’s war, or Vietnam as Dean Rusk’s war.

    • Dr. Waffle

      I think friend of the blog Freddie deBoer once tried to argue that Hillary Clinton was wholly responsible for the Iraq War. That’s how stupid these people are.

      • Warren Terra

        You misspelled “fiend of the blog”.

        • IM

          pet of the blog.

          • DN Nation

            An aside here: Freddie really needs to just quit the Internet. I say that not in the “delete your account” sense, but rather, the “this is clearly making you unwell.”

            • Kevin

              Yeah, he admits to being bipolar, and his last two twitter meltdowns are manic periods. After he admitted it the first time last year, I figured that was what was happening the last few months as he just spazzed out online, even coming to the comments section here a few times for pathetic hit and runs. So really, he needs to quit twitter, it brings out his worst impulses, but more than that, he needs to get his dosages right. It’s no laughing matter, no matter how much of a shit head douche I think he is.

              • tsam100

                I feel like “bipolar” has turned into a synonym for moody asshole, and that’s not a good thing. Did he say he was diagnosed bipolar, by like, a real doctor and stuff?

                • Kevin

                  He says he was, you can read his thing here: https://medium.com/@freddiedeboer/digging-out-20bf30cbddf9

                  It doesn’t excuse his behavior, but it does make sense, I had thought that last year he was completely off the rails in his feuds online, more so than just being a regular asshole that he usually is.

    • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

      I think it means the wars Hillary was going to have with Russia, because hawk McCarthy something.

    • McAllen

      This is part of the weirdly individualist streak in a lot of leftists. Like, yes Clinton is responsible for making war, but she’s also part of a system that encourages war–a system Trump has cheerfully participated in, as was always obvious–and I don’t know what good it’s supposed to do to act like she’s the sole malevolent agent in American foreign policy

      • stepped pyramids

        The closest thing Clinton has to a “personal” war is Libya, and I think it’s just ridiculous to pretend like the bloodshed there can be solely ascribed to her. There was a war going on before NATO got involved. And other NATO members (France, in particular) were going to intervene regardless of what the US did.

        It devalues actual critiques of US use of military power (and Hillary’s involvement in it, even) to pretend like Hillary got up one morning and said “let’s blow up Libya” and hit the button that said “kill a bunch of brown people”.

        And I would explicitly contrast that with Iraq, which really was a war of choice without a credible justification, entered for bad reasons, conducted poorly, and with a horrific outcome.

        • so-in-so

          And other NATO members (France, in particular) were going to intervene regardless of what the US did.

          Pshaw! Only U.S. Democrats have agency, you know.

        • nemdam

          And we can’t overlook that if the US used its clout to stop our allies from intervening, then there would’ve been at best a more paranoid and violent Gaddafi left in power after he killed the rebels, but more than likely a civil war. It was nothing at all like Iraq where it was a more or less stable government that we decided to unilaterally break apart because of ideology.

          It’s more than fair to criticize the Libya intervention, but to use it as evidence that Hillary is a warmonger, like virtually every prominent criticism of Hillary, is just dumb.

        • Terok Nor

          Don’t you understand? It’s not a “war” unless you can blame the Evil U.S. for it.
          When the Syria chemical weapons thing was going on and it seemed like Obama might bomb, I remember Medea Benjamin saying “What a beautiful day to stop a war!”. Sounding completely oblivious to the fact that a war was already happening, much less any interest in stopping it.

        • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

          Also, people forget that, at the time, the Libya intervention was a triumph representing a new model for multilateral humanitarian intervention, and praised to the skies as such by Rachel Maddow.

          • stepped pyramids

            I don’t think the people who are the most vehement about blaming Libya on Clinton were praising it at the time, nor would they be particularly convinced by Rachel Maddow. It was a controversial intervention even at the time, although a lot of the controversy was based on fearmongering about ground troops.

  • Warren Terra

    Even the original tweet was incredibly silly. Trump had nominate Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, and Jeff Sessions as his Attorney General.

    Zaid is an idiot, or is deliberately pretending to be one – or both! – but the original tweet you show, while supremely stupid, was in April 2016. Trump hadn’t nominated anyone yet, not even Mike Pence.

    • Lost Left Coaster

      Yeah I was going to mention that the time stamps on this conversation seem to show that most of it took place over a year ago. Not a defense of Jilani — the idea that Trump was ever “pro-LGBT” was absolutely ludicrous from the beginning.

      ETA: I see that the tweets at the end are fresh, including the “most pro-LGBT Republican party” part. So he’s making sure to refresh his stupidity.

      • Aaron Morrow

        The “July 26” tweet is from yesterday. Jiliani “doubled-down” on last year’s nonsense.

    • Justin Runia

      Yeah, but he had been a well-documented liar for decades prior to that, so the credulousness of the True Left regarding his bullshit was always very disappointing.

    • Marlowe

      Yeah, but the tweet stating “Dude, his VP is Mike Pence” was in response to Jilani’s double down tweet fricking yesterday that defended Der Drumpfenfuhrer by calling him the leader of the most pro-gay GOP in history.

      • Warren Terra

        I mean, sure, and I’m disinclined to defend Jilani. But: this was written as if the “original tweet” was in 2017, not 2016.

        • Scott Lemieux

          You’re right — will correct.

      • reattmore

        It might really be the most pro-gay GOP in history, but that’s not saying much–like being the most pro-Jewish Nazi Party

  • McAllen

    To the last point, I want to highlight this case where the Texas Supreme Court denied that same-sex couple were guaranteed spousal benefits. They kicked it back to a lower court, which really makes it look like they’re stalling and hoping for a justice to retire so the US Supreme Court will overturn or weaken Obergefell.

  • Most Republican voters and public officials still oppose SSM

    Making Pete Hoekstra such a daring choice for our next ambassador to the Netherlands!

    • Warren Terra

      One exception is Rob Portman, senator from Ohio, who reportedly decided he’d rather maintain a relationship with his Gay son than oppose SSM. He is however eager to gut Medicaid, so I guess that means his son isn’t poor and sick.

  • Dr. Waffle

    Do these alt-leftie assholes have any semblance of an electoral strategy, other than Bernie 2020? They talk a lot about taking power and making libs bend the knee and all that, but they’re curiously quiet when it comes to putting forth actual candidates.

    • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy
    • Warren Terra

      Well, there seems to be a fair bit of enthusiasm for the DSA, who have apparently learned fncking nothing and are planning to be a real political party, knifing the Dems in the back, rather than (more usefully) a movement to pressure, influence, and maybe even take over the Democratic party.

    • FMguru

      As far as I can tell, it’s
      1) Sabotage and shit-talk the Democratic (*spit*) Party until they give up and adopt a Full Communism In Four Years platform and exile all the neoliberals to a remote Aleutian island (along with those pesky “idpol” advocates).
      2) When presented with an uncompromised Left party and platform, working class people will peel away from the Republican Party and vote for their real economic interests in overwhelming numbers.
      3) Year Zero declared after inauguration, Single Payer for everyone, show trials for Wall Street people – basically Utopia from that point forward.

      • nemdam

        I wish I could say this a joke, but it’s not. Well, at least not intentionally. But, yes, this is their plan. Coerce the Democratic Party into submission, run on the utopian left platform* which will win over the white working class (take POC and women for granted since their issues are all ultimately economic anyway), then celebrate the revolution. I’m also told it’s all a big coincidence and something that happens to all politicians that they look to Bernie Sanders as their champion to do this.

        *What’s funny, again not intentionally, is if they ever got this far (spoiler alert: they won’t), they would just tear themselves apart trying to decide how to create the “true leftist” platform. It’s actually already faintly happening in that there is a debate about whether or not they should court Mike Cernovich or not. Yes, that Mike Cernovich.

        • reattmore

          Pizza pedophilia Mike Cernovich???

    • McAllen

      Electoral strategies are neoliberal.

      • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

        Policy is neoliberal. Slogans are revolutionary.

        • Brien Jackson

          DeMoro already declared healthcare policy experts to be enemies of the people.

    • Veleda_k

      Who needs an electoral strategy when you have Bernie the magical unicorn?

      • IM

        Yes:

        “No saviour from on high delivers,
        No faith have we in prince or peer.”

        is no longer operative.

    • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

      It’s about how Obama ran as a center/center-right candidate, but they insisted he “ran as a progressive”, and when he didn’t mind his place and take orders from Cenk Uyger or whoever they were “betrayed”, and they have been enraged ever since, and “taking power and making libs bend the knee” means making Dems lose elections, which is what Bernie 2016 and Bernie 2020 is all about.

      • IM

        Well, Obama was many things to many people.

        • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

          You don’t say.

          • IM

            Still true.

      • JMP

        And considering how these fauxgressive dipshits turned on Obama on January 20 2009 the minute they didn’t get the ponies they thought he promised them, you know that if Sanders had become President they would immediately have turned on him and declared him to be a neoliberal who was exactly like Bush the moment he took office. Some people just can’t handle winning.

    • Brien Jackson

      Check out RoseAnn Demoro’s Twitter feed sometime. The childish Bernie worship is amazing.

  • JMV Pyro

    OK, so is Zaid genuinely this stupid or is he just trolling for clicks? I don’t remember him being this bad.

    • Lost Left Coaster

      A little of column A, a little of column B…

      • A little of column Cluster A, a little of column Cluster A…

        FTFY

    • Kevin

      I imagine wherever he used to work kept him in check, but working with Greenwald allowed him to fully embrace his inner stupid asshole.

      • Free Fries

        That would be Center of American Progress with Neera Tanden

        • Along with Lee Fang and Matt Breunig.

          • stepped pyramids

            And they all hate Tanden. Interesting.

            • Kevin

              Well shit, if I’m judging her by her enemies…she must be the greatest person in the world.

              • Hmm, from what I’m pulling up Fang left of his own volition, while Jilani resigned a year later after a controversy over using “Israel-Firsters” on Twitter & comparing the Israeli government’s policies to South Africa’s (and as noted above Matt never worked for her).

                • Kevin

                  Ah, I see. Well, I do agree with him on the comparison to South Africa, a broken clock is right twice a day. But he’s such a dumb asshole online. Did I mention dumb? I hope I did.

                • Veleda_k

                  You could mention it again. If you wanted.

  • Justin Runia

    You have to feel bad for these guys, until Hillary’s book comes out, they don’t have a whole lot to write about.

  • Cassiodorus

    Is a lobotomy a job requirement at The Intercept, or something they do after you arrive?

    • The second one, although they keep some warm bodies around to keep from going full Global Research.

  • Joe Paulson

    Come on. Obama didn’t publicly support same sex marriage in 2004. I win!

    • Cassiodorus

      I know you’re joking, but didn’t he support it during his first state Senate run?

      • Joe Paulson

        I have seen some talk of him saying yes on some sort of questionnaire in the 1990s before it was law in any state (even before Vermont started civil partnerships).

  • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

    The best thing that could happen, really, is if the Repubs get full enough of themselves to repeal the 22nd Amendment, and carelessly forget to block any loopholes against previous officeholders.

  • kdbart

    Yep. “Useful idiots” on the left who were willing & eager to assist Putin in his endeavor.

  • tsam100

    2EG4ME bro. lol. Hillary started the war of 1812. What’s her fuckin deal anyway?

  • btfjd

    You have to appreciate Zaid’s timing. Today the DOJ filed an amicus brief in the Second Circuit case Zarda v. Altitude Express. The brief said that Title VII does not protect sexual orientation. A month before, the EEOC had filed an amicus brief in the exact same case saying exactly the opposite. So Trump’s DOJ is changing the position of the United States on whether LGBT employees are protected by Title VII. But I guess he’s still the most pro-gay Republican ever, amirite?

    • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy

      There was a split second in the Obama era when “progressives” said he was the most homophobic president ever. I shit you not.

  • sigaba

    OT but-

    1) McCain and Graham have pleasantly surprised me completely crashing the Senate process.
    2) Tony Scaramucci does know what reporters do.

    • Jay B.

      1) McCain and Graham are currently asking for some kind of “commitment” from Ryan that the House can’t promise and would be a moot point anyway. However, if they get this wholly impossible-to-implement-and-completely-hollow “commitment”, it’s a deal. It’s like begging to be conned.
      2) I like how he is such a quiet, smooth, behind-the-scenes operator, unlike that dicksucking Bannon guy.

      • sigaba

        Politically they want the blame shifted, they want the House to own what they’re about to vote for so if it goes tits they can just blame the House. Obviously nothing they’re demanding could possibly have constitutional effect, in effect they’re asking the House to please countermand their own votes, so the Senate can take credit for voting for Obamacare Repeal but the consequences can fall on the House.

        It sounds likes the House Republicans have the right idea and told McCain, Johnson et al. to go fuck themselves.

      • Scott Lemieux

        Again, they’re doing absolutely jack shit to stop the process.

        • Jay B.

          Of course. It’s transparent grandstanding. To everyone but the always-astonished courtiers who have life-time passes on the Straight Talk Express.

    • Peter Curtin

      Oh my . . . . Sounds like Bannon really needs to start doing yoga. And was that one of the goals on his white board?

  • The Great God Pan

    He has since tweeted that “a constitutional convention is a great idea, and only deep conservatives want to do one.” Follow-up tweet confirms that he explicitly sides with ALEC on this. Just in case anyone thought that maybe Zaid likes to start the day dumb and then get smarter as it goes on.

    • PressSecretaryCaptainHowdy
    • Scott Lemieux

      Look, Article V is clear that the constitutional convention would would be comprised solely of guys from Brooklyn who think Nancy Pelosi is a reactionary, and only their votes would be needed to ratify the amendments. I can’t see how it wouldn’t work out well.

  • Scott Lemieux
    • nemdam

      Zaid Jilani boldly standing up for ordinary Iranians because obviously all the Democratic women and POC want to punish them. Where would we be without crusaders like him?

      Also, it’s quite strange that Bernie joined Rand Paul as the only other Senator to once again vote against the Russian sanctions. He claims it’s because he doesn’t want to conflict with the Iranian nuclear deal, but I have no idea how this interferes with it, and why no other Democrats think this is the case.

      • Warren Terra

        I rather assume Bernie is cannily maintaining the affections of his least hinged supporters, who listen to a lot of pro-Russian propaganda from the Intercept and other sources.

      • Perkniticky

        In the Iran deal, the US was supposed to lift sanctions on Iran. This is kind of opposite to that. It will probably mean the US is breakjng the agreement. The EU is also very pissed about the Russia sanctions because they want to buy their natural gas. I’m with Bernie on this one.

        • Rob in CT

          Seems to me that if we want to contain Russia, we need to do in full cooperation with our Euro allies. But with Twitler in the WH, that’s… a wee bit difficult.

  • I’m confused. Is this from 2016?

    • The last three tweets pictured are from yesterday.

    • Warren Terra

      It starts in 2016, but Jilani doubled down on the derp this week in the face of ample evidence.

  • Harkov311

    “When Democrats do or say liberal things they don’t count because they’re just pandering, and when Republicans do or say bad things they don’t count because they’re just pandering.”

    This classic case of special pleading is what the Both Sides crowd (and the pink unicorn far-left crowd) use as their excuse to pretend that everyone’s sins are somehow equal. But it falls apart at even slight examination. I mean, how are we supposed to know, by any objective measure, when a party is being sincere, and when it is just pandering? These equivocators never tell us this. When one party always “panders” in one direction, and the other party always “panders” the other way, then maybe…it’s not pamdering. It’s what they actually want.

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