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Trump Family: “Get Me Some More of Them Cheap Immigrant Workers”

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Of course:

As Donald Trump prepares to assume the presidency after campaigning to restore American jobs, a Virginia winery owned by his son, Eric Trump, has applied for permission to import more foreign workers to prune grapevines.

On Wednesday, the Department of Labor posted a petition from Trump Winery, also known as Trump Vineyard Estates, asking to bring in six vineyard workers under the federal H-2 visa program, which permits US employers to bring in foreign laborers on temporary work visas. Since 2003, more than 100,000 foreigners have been brought in under the program each year.

Combined with this latest request, companies owned by Trump or bearing his name have sought permission from the Department of Labor to hire at least 263 foreign guest workers since he launched his presidential campaign. Many work as servers and house cleaners at Mar-a-Lago, his Florida estate.

The Trump transition team did not immediately respond to a request for comment, nor did Trump Vineyards. In the past, Trump has said it is “almost impossible” to find Americans who want such jobs. Trump has sought to bring in foreign guest workers at a number of his businesses since at least 2003.

Why it’s almost as if Donald Trump lied to the American public in order to take power!

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  • KeithB

    “Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie, and one to listen.” — Homer Simpson

    • jim, some guy in iowa

      as always, the thing isn’t how terrible Trump is- it’s that he’s what sixty some million people *wanted*

      • Nobdy

        And what even MORE were willing to accept by not voting.

        Look, I am a voter, but even if I weren’t I think Trump would get me to the damn polls, come hell or high water. If you aren’t going to vote against someone with ties to Nazis….

        I mean I get looking at Mitt Romney and shrugging and saying “I guess he seems presidential…” but staying home for Donald Trump…

        Not even talking about that Stein voter in Michigan with her “sorry, not sorry” hot take. That is a piece of journalism that will age like a fine goddamned wine.

        • CP

          I keep coming back to this counter-example:

          One of the first elections I was old enough to pay attention to was France 2002. When the FN made it to the run-off election, the result was a massive turnout of conservatives, liberals, socialists, far-leftists, and formerly apathetics of all stripes that ultimately delivered something like an 80%-20% defeat for the Front National. The sitting president refused to even lower the office of the president by holding debates with the asshole. He was an uninspiring uncharismatic establishment conservative that everyone already thought was a crook and was in fact convicted of it later. And people rallied around him behind the actual slogan “vote for the crook, not the fascist.”

          That is what a healthy political system looks like – at all levels from the public to the elites. Sadly, I doubt if it would still be the case if the FN made it that far today. And sadly, given a similar situation, the U.S. has proven that it’s about as far from that as it can get.

          • Jean-Michel

            Sadly, I doubt if it would still be the case if the FN made it that far today.

            We’ll find out next year.

            • CP

              Indeed! I’ll say this for the era we live in: it’s not boring.

            • wengler

              Ah c’mon now. Marine is a reformed fascist, not an unreconstructed fascist like her father.

              • CP

                She must be that Good German Frenchwoman I keep hearing about.

              • Hogan

                Is she a reformed fascist, reformation of 1953, or a reformed fascist, reformation of 1978?

                • Mellano

                  Based on her financing, she’s the equivalent of whatever they called the fascists who reformed so hard they joined the Stasi.

                  On the bright side, no French banks are willing to work with the FN, so their political system has that much going for it at least. OTOH, the way things are going she’ll probably sell that as a positive: “En draine le marais!

  • D.N. Nation

    The Trump transition team did not immediately respond to a request for comment, nor did Trump Vineyards. In the past, Trump has said it is “almost impossible” to find Americans who want such jobs. Trump has sought to bring in foreign guest workers at a number of his businesses since at least 2003.

    Trump: Most Americans are lazy and don’t want to do these jobs, so we have to bring in immigrants.
    Trump supporters: Yeah! We’re so lazy! Trump tells it like it is! We should totally use Messicans!
    Trump: And we’re not actually building the wall.
    Trump supporters: Damn straight we’re not! What a stupid idea that would’ve been! Trump is smart!

    • Nobdy

      My favorite is “we don’t need a wall. There are mountains and vicious rivers.” There are so many things wrong with this “argument” that it is hard to know where to begin. And yet his supporters just shrug. Can you imagine if Obama had said “we don’t need health care reform, turns out anyone can go to the ER” what the reaction would have been?

      Nobody expects Trump to be smart or honest or consistent or anything. His supporters just want him to hurt people they don’t like and the press has moved to the “lool, this is just how he IS, ok? Covering all his lies would be exhausting and he would complain and it would be a whole thing” phase of normalization.

      Beyond the practical concerns, it really does feel like the world has gone totally mad. Most people just shrug it all off. It has given me a lot of insight to what it must have felt like to be in Nazi Germany as it was gearing up. Just a whole lot of passive acceptance of transparent and upfront evil, and willful ignoring of important events.

      • CP

        I think what’s really depressing is how very little it ultimately took to make us elect a fascist. Didn’t take a traumatic economy or a disastrous war. All it took was a bunch of whiny and incredibly entitled assholes.

        • farin

          And, I am reliably informed by prestigious journalistic outlets, “safe spaces.”

          • Hogan

            Black lives what now?

      • rea

        “we don’t need a wall. There are mountains and vicious rivers.” There are so many things wrong with this “argument” that it is hard to know where to begin.

        Well, but it’s true for a good portion of the border.

        Look at this–where would you even put a wall?

        • Nobdy

          Strange that this vicious river either did not exist or was uncharted prior to November 8 of this year. I would have thought major geographical features of the U.S. Mexican border would be well known at this point.

          • CP

            Geography has a liberal bias.

            • Dennis Orphen

              Objective Reality has a liberal bias.

              • Jay B

                Objective Reality no longer exists.

                • Objectivist Reality, on the other hand…

    • CP

      “Look, you’ve all got to think for yourselves!”
      Yes! We’ve all got to think for ourselves!
      “You’re all individuals!”
      Yes! We’re all individuals!
      “You’re all different!”
      “I’m not…”
      “Ssshhh!”

  • Combined with this latest request, companies owned by Trump or bearing his name have sought permission from the Department of Labor to hire at least 263 foreign guest workers indentured servants since he launched his presidential campaign. Many work as servers and house cleaners at Mar-a-Lago, his Florida estate.

    Fixed it. I guess Americans really don’t want those jobs where they’re treated like shit for substandard wages and no benefits.

  • I don’t even want to try to account any more for how 60 million Americans voted for him. Having done that, though, I think most of them will never cop, maybe especially to themselves, to having been taken in by him. They will explain away every 180 degree reversal rather than admit that they got conned.

    • CP

      Plenty of them weren’t taken in by him. They just made the calculation that they hated liberals worse.

      Think the South Park mantra “I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals.”

  • efgoldman

    Hey, somebody has to pick the grapes for Thunderbird, Ripple, and Wild Irish Rose

    • El Guapo

      Insert Fred Sanford “Ripple mixed with ______” joke here.

    • I don’t now about Wild Irish Rose, but Thunderbird and Ripple were both Gallo wines. Can’t imagine why Gallo has had such a hard time being taken seriously in the fine wine market.

    • Docrailgun

      Don’t forget Maddog 20/20.

  • Matt

    I’ll admit that I’m surprised that they are actually using the H-2A program. I guess it’s for optics. It’s an awfully designed program, which is why it’s used so rarely. (I mean, 100K workers per year is, in the scheme of things, essentially nothing here. It’s not used because it’s really poorly designed.)

    • Yankee

      No matter how little you’re willing to settle for, The Big Man wants to give you less than that. How long are self-imported Mexicans going to be economical? As I recall it’s not hard to stiff the H2A labor since they are tied to the employer as. really, indentured servants.

      • Matt

        Yes, the H-2A program is extra bad: bad for the employers and bad for the employees. It’s almost like the people who made it didn’t really care or want it to work!

  • GeorgeBurnsWasRight

    I remember Trump said it was a problem that US workers were “overpaid”.

    Clearly this is his only option to find people willing to work cheaper.

  • tomstickler

    In the past, Trump has said it is “almost impossible” to find Americans who want such jobs at the shitty wages I am offering.

    • Lurking Canadian

      THIS.

  • solidcitizen

    I have it on good authority (comments to the letter to the editor of my local newspaper) that agricultural jobs pay $30-40 an hour. Farmers would love to hire Americans to do this work, but Democrats have raised taxes so high, farmers are forced to hire immigrants in order to keep food prices cheap for their fellow citizens. Trump is going to lower taxes and cut the red tape bullshit, so farmers will be able to hire Americans at quality wages and not jack up the price of food, like Obama has.

    The only remaining problem will be that all the millennials are special snowflakes too worried about safe spaces to do a hard day’s labor like we used to do in the summer to get money to pay for college.

    • efgoldman

      agricultural jobs pay $30-40 an hour. Farmers would love to hire Americans to do this work, but Democrats have raised taxes so high

      “When I was your age, we got gristle at two cents a pound, and rotting potatoes we had to fight the crows and possums for, and that’s the way it was, and we liked it!

      ETA: And alla’ them young bucks and they mamas was eatin’ t-bones and lobster.

      • solidcitizen

        You got gristle!? In my house, only the dad got the gristle, we kids had to live on the smell alone. It was rough, but we were loved.

    • Hogan

      John McCain tells me Americans wouldn’t pick lettuce even for $50 an hour. I can’t wait to see how this plays out.

      • Lurking Canadian

        Well gee, if they won’t do it for $50 am hour, then for sure solidcitizen’s paltry $30-$40 isn’t going to get anybody to put down the Xbox controller.

  • ploeg

    In related news, yesterday the Trump administration proposed a “border adjustment tax” of a gazillion percent on imports, to be enacted by imperial decree executive order. But today, we’re talking about a two gazillion percent tax, to be enacted as part of a broader corporate tax reform package.

    CNBC, of course, relays the purest horseshit about the significance of this tax, which is supposedly to be assessed on the value of the imported items at the border. CNBC gives as an example a Gap sweater that costs $80 to make, with $15 cost to transport and sell the sweater for $100. Currently that means an operating income of $5, but the tax would mean an extra $4, or $8, or $16 of tax to cut into The Gap’s profits.

    First off, no sweater at The Gap retails anything close to $100. Second off, the ratio of revenue to operating income for The Gap is about 8 to 1, so we’re talking about $12.50 of profits on a $100 sweater after expenses, marketing, executive bonuses, etc. are taken into account. Third off, and most importantly, the cost of producing the sweater is almost certainly much closer to $20 than it is to $80, which means an extra $1 to $4 of tax on the sweater to cut into profits and executive bonuses. Not that The Gap is going to be happy with even that level of taxation, but there’s a lot less there than meets the eye.

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