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Example #1: The execution of former Jets running back Joe McKnight.

Ronald Gasser, the man authorities say shot and killed former NFL player Joe McKnight, was released from custody overnight without being charged, Jefferson Parish Sheriff’s Office authorities said Friday morning (Dec. 2).

Gasser, 54, has not been formally charged, said JPSO spokesman Col. John Fortunato. Investigators are consulting with the district attorney’s office on the decision whether to formally charge Gasser, Fortunato said.

As the investigation into McKnight’s death continues, Fortunato asked anyone with information about the shooting to contact department homicide detectives at 504-364-5393.

McKnight, 28, was shot about 3 p.m. Thursday (Dec. 1) at the intersection of Behrman Highway and Holmes Boulevard in Terrytown. A witness, who declined to give her name, said she saw a man at the intersection yelling at McKnight, who was trying to apologize. The man shot McKnight more than once, the witness said. She said he shot McKnight, stood over him and said, “I told you don’t you f— with me.” Then the man fired again, she said.

He murdered an unarmed man execution style and the cops just let him go. That my friends is what you call a racist nation with a racist “justice” system allowing for whites to kill black people and be treated with kid gloves. Maybe he and George Zimmerman can go on the road together.

Example 2: Trump giving white men the room to do whatever they want to Muslims.

Three men physically attacked a Muslim teenager at a Manhattan subway stop on Thursday night while shouting the name of the President-elect, police told the New York Daily News.

Police said the unidentified 18-year-old victim was waiting alone for the uptown 6 train at the 23rd Street and Park Avenue station when three young men approached her shouting “Donald Trump.”

Officers told the Daily News that they followed her onto the train, continuing to shout Trump’s name and allegedly calling her a “fucking terrorist.” The men, who the victim said appeared intoxicated, also allegedly told her to “get the hell out of the country” and said she didn’t “belong here.”

When she did not respond, they ripped her purse off her shoulder, breaking the strap, and attempted to pull off her hijab, police said.

What is terrible here is also that no one intervened and stood up for this woman. When we see this, we must do the right thing, even if that places us in physical danger ourselves. When we cower in terror, understandable as this may be when it happens, we enable fascists to act ever more boldly, leading to increasingly horrible crimes. I know it’s easy for me to sit here and write this and I’m not trying to act as a keyboard warrior. I’m just saying we all have to figure what we are going to actually do in these situations if we see them. And some people are doing the right thing and intervening.

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  • Lord Jesus Perm

    I have the utmost faith that justice will be served here:

    Jefferson Paris Sheriff Newell Normand told reporters he was confident the suspect, 54-year-old Ronald Gasser, was “not going anywhere. He has been completely cooperative.” Gasser has not been charged.

    McKnight “did not have a gun in his possession,” Normand said.

    Gasser and McKnight — a star running back at USC who played four seasons in the NFL — had been arguing after some kind of traffic incident outside New Orleans Thursday, according to the sheriff. He said there were no indications the shooting was a hate crime. “Everyone wants to make this about race. This is not about race.”

  • CrunchyFrog

    Example #3

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-slager-trial-jury-deadlock-walter-scott-case/

    The old Jim Crow rule in which whites will never convict another white for killing a black is back.

    • gkclarkson

      I believe it used to be referred to in legal circles as the “Negro murder doctrine” and was formulated as such: “If the victim’s a negro, it ain’t murder.”

    • ProgressiveLiberal

      This makes me want to quit.

      • PhoenixRising

        Offer accepted.

        • BartletForGallifrey

          1. I laughed out loud at that.
          2. Are you on twitter? I wanted to quote something you wrote a few days ago, and obviously if you’re there I’ll tag you.

          • PhoenixRising

            @alexking3rd and thanks.

    • kped

      Remember when “jury nullification” was this awful thing black people did to get killers on the streets? Yeah…never seemed to hear about the obvious white jury nullification (or it’s brother “all blacks must be guilty”) in the media. But make no mistake, that’s what this is. If a cop can’t get convicted for killing an unarmed man in the back as he ran, while it was filmed, then it’s open season.

      I also kind of have to blame movies and TV. We really do get conditioned to think cops shooting at fleeing suspects is just part of their job. By the time you are an adult, that just seems like something they can and should do. “if you let him run, he may kill someone else” or some such nonsense.

      • The Great God Pan

        Huh. I’ve only ever heard the phrase “jury nullification” from white anti-government yahoos who advocate using it. I thought it went along with talk of “admiralty courts” and “freemen on the land.” Didn’t know it was ever negatively associated with black people.

        • mikeSchilling

          I’ve heard it in anti-war-on-drugs contexts too. But more often what you refer to,

          • kped

            It was the mid 90’s, after OJ. it became a thing.

      • Taylor

        I also kind of have to blame movies and TV. We really do get conditioned to think cops shooting at fleeing suspects is just part of their job

        There’s a scene in French Connection when Gene Hackman (after the car-and-train chase) shoots a suspect in the back who is fleeing up a stairs.

        Cops on the set objected to the scene, claiming it was murder.

        • Ramon A. Clef

          At the Citizens Police Academy I attended about 15 years ago, an officer told us that Florida Law permits shooting a fleeing suspect. Saint Petersburg PD policy forbids it. He preferred the city policy.

      • Origami Isopod

        Of course, movies and TV seldom depict cops as rage-addicted monsters willing to put entire city blocks at risk in order to get their man, or as incompetent buffoons who couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn.

        We need the Keystone Kops back in our theaters.

        • (((Hogan)))

          Bad cops, bad cops, whatcha gonna do . . .

  • Gregor Sansa

    20 minutes ago, I was walking out of the statistics department holiday party near Harvard Square, and there was a homeless guy who said “fucking faggots” to two guys walking by. I said “Hey, don’t be like that” to him.

    I’m not trying to say that was a big deal. I’d rather not share the story but I think that the more we see that in many cases confronting the bad guys is actually pretty easy, the more we’ll be ready to mentally practice those little gestures, so we’ll be ready for the times when it’s actually hard.

    • PhoenixRising

      This is very important.

      Speaking up to small incidents gets you in a habit of speaking up. The thing is, most of us aren’t in that habit.

      • ThrottleJockey

        Speaking up to a homeless, maybe mentally ill, guy?

        Let’s aim our fire higher gentlemen.

    • kped

      I actually did speak up once in public, saw a random guy just yelling at a girl outside a club because she didn’t want to talk to him (they didn’t know each other). My friends told me to stop…which was kind of sad, i’m easily the smallest in our group, and we vastly outnumbered this guy and his friends. But people don’t like standing up for people being abused.

  • Jason

    Besides really liking where all my teeth are right now, I am hesitant to call out the homeless and/or mentally ill for saying things, even awful things. I know this may just be cowardice on my part, but I don’t believe in arguing or attempting to chasten people who are already run down by the world.

    • Moondog von Superman

      Maybe we all need to carry mouth guards. Dental work is expensive. (Will my mouth guard or motorcycle helmet and crowbar look odd to the police after the fact?)

    • Origami Isopod

      Mental illness doesn’t turn people into racists. Lots of us have psych diagnoses but, somehow, manage not to yell racial slurs in public or yank off women’s hijabs. In fact, the mentally ill are far more likely to be victims of violence than perps of it (3rd item down).

      • Jason

        Oh, agreed on all counts. I’m not singling out the homeless or mentally ill as being any more racist, just saying that I’m not personally willing to try to correct the behavior of someone who doesn’t have shelter.

    • mikeSchilling

      I am hesitant to call out the homeless and/or mentally ill for saying things, even awful things.

      Me too, at least until they’re elected president.

      • efgoldman

        Me too, at least until they’re elected president.

        Well, we’re halfway there

  • Denverite

    I saw a woman get robbed in a Paris subway when I was 21. I just stood there — not really terrified (though after the fact, it was a really seedy part of the town and I should have been), but more in a state of disbelief that it was happening. She came up to me afterwards and it still haunts me that I basically ran off because I didn’t speak a word of French.

    I also got mugged when I was 29. Three punks followed me off the Red Line at the 35th/Sox Park stop. I fought them off, but one of them almost broke my jaw. Anyway, a passing car honked its horn and scared the kids off, which probably is the difference between a sore jaw and a hospital stay (or worse).

    • rea

      My usual reaction to sudden danger is stunned incomprehension

      • Marek

        This is why it’s important to visualize what you will do in a crisis ahead of time. It really helps.

        • Mellano

          This is also reason #5,329 the idea of everyday people stopping criminals with their guns is a facially ridiculous idea.

          My high school math teacher (a Republican jock, gone to seed) used to laugh at people who kept guns beneath their bed. He remarked that having never gone through even basic training, the last thing they were going to do in the rare chance someone broke into their house was shoot the bad guy. But enough people just like them some guns, I guess.

  • (((max)))

    What is terrible here is also that no one intervened and stood up for this woman. When we see this, we must do the right thing, even if that places us in physical danger ourselves.

    This is what God invented wrecking bars for.

    max
    [‘My atavistic streak would like to come out and play now.’]

    • Dennis Orphen
    • PhoenixRising

      That’s a factor that might be worth drawing out as well: For a lot of decent people, there is a fear of being hurt by angry, foulmouthed bigots that interferes with talking back and pushing back at the start of a cycle/the beginning of the incident.

      I guess being the only out gay kid at my high school in the 1980s helped me to never develop that fear. As in, when someone tells me about an incident like the one on the subway in this post and says, “I was afraid to say anything”, I’m baffled.

      The worst that can happen is you’ll get punched in the face. While I’m not promoting getting punched in the face–it’s not a pleasure–far too many decent people have never been punched in the face because decent people don’t resolve conflicts with their fists. As a result, mere threats of physical violence are used to bully groups of decent people very effectively.

      Again, not suggesting getting punched in the face is something to rush toward with glee, but most of the time you’ll need an ice pack at worst. Maybe not even that.

      Armed assholes are another matter, obviously, but groups of young white boys armed only with their bad attitudes and fists are really unlikely to become an existential threat to a bystander who becomes an actor.

      • ProgressiveLiberal

        People die from getting punched in the face. And if you lose consciousness… It’s not as harmless as you make it out to be.

        • troll

          troll comment

        • PhoenixRising

          Wow, insightful. Has anyone died from failing to respond to every stimulus on the internet giving them an opportunity to attack a strawman? Because if you’re in danger of being the first, I respect your persistence.

          Otherwise: I’m fairly confident that I didn’t ‘make it out to be harmless’ while raising the point that decent people who know right from wrong tend to catastrophize the possible outcomes from standing up to bullies.

          Do you have anything useful to contribute or will the Nuh-Uh Festival be continuing throughout the weekend?

      • Origami Isopod

        but most of the time you’ll need an ice pack at worst. Maybe not even that.

        I hate to side with Fauxgressive Liberal, but this is shitty advice that could get someone killed.

        groups of young white boys armed only with their bad attitudes and fists are really unlikely to become an existential threat to a bystander who becomes an actor.

        Are you fucking kidding me. One belligerent young white boy can be a goddamned existential threat, let alone a crowd of them.

        • PhoenixRising

          No, I am not fucking kidding you. I never advocated inviting face punches. I said that most of the time, when dished out by a drunk/hopped up on rage amateur, most punches don’t kill the recipient.

          It’s also not advice, it’s a series of statements about my experiences with bullies. Most bullies don’t want a fight, they want to feel validated in their prejudices without anyone talking back. And most decent people are too afraid of violence to push back in any way, even making eye contact with/aligning with the victim.

          I’m pointing out that there is a vicious cycle here: Decent people don’t solve problems with punches, as a general rule. So when nasty bullies get loud, decent people feel scared. I’m not even saying don’t feel scared or always react. I’m saying, I thought pretty clearly, that most of the time responding to bullies and thugs doesn’t result in serious physical injury. To anyone! Most of the time it results in the bully going away.

          • DrDick

            Also based on personal experience, it often scares them if you stand up to them.

          • bender

            If you stand up to a bully in front of passive witnesses, you are setting a good example. Some of those witnesses may find the courage to follow your example when they weren’t ready to take the initiative themselves. Some may not, but if you do it and don’t get seriously hurt, they will remember what you did and follow your example the next time they are faced with a similar situation.

            It’s important to show people that they don’t have to be passive and wait for someone else to fix things.

      • BartletForGallifrey

        I realize Erik is a white guy, so he doesn’t fall into this, but as for other people–I’m not going to judge any member of a racial/ethnic/religious/sexual minority for their choices and behavior over the next four years. If a black person doesn’t feel safe intervening, or a Jew decides to leave the country, or a gay man stays closeted, I’m not second-guessing or judging those choices.

        • PhoenixRising

          I hope I didn’t come across as judging anyone for doing or not doing whatever they are comfortable doing. I’m suggesting that sometimes fears of physical violence can be out-sized to both the odds of escalation and the consequences of escalation, which are obviously 2 different things.

          Did I recommend having the center of the football team stuff you in a locker to lower your anxiety level about getting hit? Because I sincerely apologize if that is what I typed and don’t know it.

          • BartletForGallifrey

            No; not exactly, but it’s something I’ve seen a lot since the election, and I think we should be wary of it.

            • Origami Isopod

              This, exactly.

              That douchebag, on the Delta flight to Pennsylvania, who was yelling about “Hillary bitches”? I saw a few guys huffing about how the passengers should have pulled a “Let’s roll.” The video showed that most of the passengers were women (no idea about the flight attendants). Delta should have handled the incident much better than it did, but those comments were some straight-up privileged bullshit.

      • ema

        The worst that can happen is you’ll get punched in the face.

        Not a safe assumption when riding a city subway.

        That having been said, as a frequent subway rider, I am surprised that people didn’t intervene.

    • DrDick

      My inner Okie, which I normally keep locked in a basement closet, looks to be having a field day for the next 4+ years.

  • Taylor

    Where have you gone, Bernie Goetz, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you?

    • ASV

      Recently spotted entering Trump Tower to talk about DHS.

      • Ghostship

        It might be Trump Tower but it’s still Obama’s America. Why hasn’t he done something? It might mean he has some legacy of his time as the most powerful man in the world beyond all the death and destruction he has inflicted on it. He seems to have been more interested in enriching the 1% and droning civilians to death than improving the lot of the American working person.

        • (((Hogan)))

          If Batman is so great, why is there still crime in Gotham?

    • pianomover

      Living out near Howard Beach I hear.

  • LFC

    That incident on the subway is of course disgusting, as are others like it. I haven’t witnessed such an incident personally. Like to think I would intervene if I were ever in a position to. A subway car can be a dicey location: one says to the three drunken men “stop harassing her, she’s done nothing to you” and they turn on you, presumably three vs. one, and bigger no doubt. (Though their being inebriated is probably a plus, since they’re prob not too coordinated.) And in a subway car calling 911 is not going to be immediately effective, and you can’t lead them on a wild goose chase. So I guess if you intervene in the subway, be prepared to fight, and hope they’re not carrying weapons.

    (p.s. I don’t live anywhere near Manhattan, and where I do live don’t have occasion to ride the subway all that regularly.)

  • BobBobNewhartNewhartSpecial

    She said he shot McKnight, stood over him and said, “I told you don’t you f— with me.” Then the man fired again, she said.

    They don’t seem to know much about what actually happened, but that women’s account is almost certainly not accurate:

    “… and the bullet casings were found inside Gasser’s own vehicle. Gasser fired all 3 shots from the driver’s seat of his car …”

    “… none of the wounds are consistent with being shot from above. “

    From here: http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/02/joe-mcknight-sheriffs-dept-addressing-media-livestream/

    • Domino

      That makes me curious – what was McKnight doing that perceived to be worth killing him? i.e. – what did he do that caused Gasser to fear for his life that he needed to shoot an unarmed man?

      Not saying it isn’t justified, but damn.

      • BobBobNewhartNewhartSpecial

        Yeah, it seems almost impossible that this is just a road-rage incident.

  • StellaB

    That story makes me want to give up.

    I was sitting in traffic at a stoplight a few weeks ago on a beautiful San Diego fall day, the top down, the Pacific ocean visible down the street, and Joe Sample on the radio. I was happy because I knew that in a few days my girl was going to win the election in a blow-out. Then four young men in the car behind me started screaming at me after they managed to puzzle out the words on my “Stronger Together” bumpersticker. One little old lady, four young men, no roof, nowhere to go — it makes you feel really vulnerable. In what universe was that acceptable behavior?

    • troll

      Troll comment deleted

    • MilitantlyAardvark

      My guess is that it began when social media declined to clean up the trolls because of various libertarian idiocies about free speech *trumping* everything else. I think it extended from there into the idea that you could abuse random strangers in real life and the police would do nothing, even if they bothered to show up. I really do think that social media has begun changing the way we communicate and view others – and often it brings out the aspects of the immature and angry that they would once have learned to suppress as part of being socially acceptable. There are a lot of thoroughly toxic young men – often white young men – out there and I really do worry about what they are going to become in the age of Trump.

      • BartletForGallifrey

        Yeah.

      • Origami Isopod

        The internet in general has definitely aggravated things, but IMO this started ramping up in the ’90s with talk radio, Faux News, and the depiction of basic human decency as “political correctness.” Even before that, in the Reagan years, you had characters like Gordon Gekko glorified as heroes, and of course our society has always turned a blind eye when certain groups of people were abused in public or behind closed doors. But, to me, the ’90s is when it took a hard turn for the unapologetic and blatant. Without the RWNM you’d still have had bad actors on the internet, obviously, but the two phenomena feed off and strengthen one another.

  • Darkrose

    I see all these stories of terrorism in the wake of t***p’s win. Then I read threads here with progressives sneering at people who suggest that racism was a factor in this election and blaming Democratic voters, largely POC’s, for not being smart enough to vote for their preferred candidate. And y’all wonder why we have a problem with you making excuses for the white voters who unleashed this shitstorm on the country.

    • troll

      Troll comment deleted

    • Drexciya

      Yup.

    • ProgressiveLiberal

      No one is denying that trump showed you could blow the horn instead of dog whistle and that it has had effects on this country.

      I just want evidence that these were obama voters that are now voting for trump because he’s openly racist.

      Are you unaware that racists always voted R?

      Do you think that barney frank would have won a senate seat in missouri? Do you think he’d be a good candidate there?

      You go to the polls with the country you have, not the one you want. I’d prefer to win the election than have donald fucking trump as my president. Even if that hurts john lewis’ feelings.

      • BartletForGallifrey

        You know, I’ve actually spent time listening to (not just talking at) black voters. One thing they really hate? When people snipe at genuine Civil Rights heroes.

        • Troll

          troll

        • ProgressiveLiberal

          I hate when genuine civil rights heroes make disingenuous arguments against candidates they don’t prefer in order to kneecap them.

          How did that work out again? Is trump doing a lot for black voters?

          • BartletForGallifrey

            We’re not in this situation because of black voters, bro.

            • ProgressiveLiberal

              You’re right. It’s cause white women in the midwest didn’t prefer the message of the choice of the majority of black voters in this country.

              Again, the knock against sanders in the primary was that all he talked about was the fucking economy and didn’t talk about POC or womens equality enough. It was just economy economy economy all fucking day. He just didn’t connect with minorities the way clinton did. Sad!

              How’d that work out again?

              • BartletForGallifrey

                It’s cause white women in the midwest didn’t prefer the message of the choice of the majority of black voters in this country.

                And because bratty white progressives decided to ~protest~ or sit on their asses. Or grudgingly cast the only reasonable vote, whining about it the entire time.

                You realize you’re like a fucking Bernie Bro parody, right?

                • jim, some guy in iowa

                  “like”?

                  hell it won’t be long and he’ll be talking about how Clinton won the “confederate states” and then I expect to see something about how certain people ought to ride in the back of the bus so he can sit up front with the driver

                • BartletForGallifrey

                  Well, I had a vague idea he’s older than the typical Bernout.

                • Origami Isopod

                  You realize you’re like a fucking Bernie Bro parody, right?

                  His greatest hits in this space include berating the rest of us for not being vegans/valuing human lives over animal lives, and talking about how much he enjoys going to strip clubs.

              • veleda_k

                It’s cause white women in the midwest didn’t prefer the message of the choice of the majority of black voters in this country.

                Something that has nothing to do with racism. For, uh, reasons.

              • DrDick

                Nicely ignoring the fact not just white men are fucking racists. You do know that you, and people like you, are a very big part of the problem, don’t you?

            • Dilan Esper

              FYI, HRC didn’t do as well with black voters as Obama did. If you are in the habit of blaming voters, you can’t focus solely on voters you would like to blame.

              And that’s why you shouldn’t blame groups of voters.

              • LifeOntheFallLine

                They also didn’t vote for Trump in anything approaching majority numbers so they couldn’t be blamed regardless.

                • Dilan Esper

                  The logic of “voter blaming” is about the margins, not the total.

                  Orherwise you can’t blame Bernie bros, most of whom voted for HRC.

          • Scott Lemieux

            in order to kneecap them.

            I love this. John Lewis is “kneecapping” Bernie Sanders by endorsing his opponent, without realizing that Sanders was owed the nomination of the party he joined a couple months before. I think this says it all.

            • If ProgressiveLiberal has earned one thing in his life, it’s the right to call John Lewis a sellout.

            • Origami Isopod

              Conversely, you get ‘bros like PL insisting that it wasn’t wrong to vote for Stein because nobody owed Clinton their votes.

          • DrDick

            Oooh, passive-aggressive racism! Soooo cute! Of course passive-aggressive assholery really is your shtick.

    • DrDick

      Indeed.

  • troll

    Troll commnet

    • ProgressiveLiberal

      I am dismayed that this man voted for obama until trump came along and made him realize it was ok to vote R.

      • troll

        troll

        • BartletForGallifrey

          We know, sweetie. Because you couldn’t actually win on the merits. You had to disenfranchise people to win. Sad!

          • Troll

            troll comment deleted

            • BartletForGallifrey

              Works both ways, cupcake.

              Gun store owners told NBC News that since November 8 they’re seeing up to four times as many black and minority customers — and black gun groups are reporting double the normal number of attendees at their meetings since the election.

              • troll

                troll comment

                • The Dark God of Time

                  White people kill themselves with guns far more often than African-Americans kill each other. Shows you how stupid white people are.

                • Cleardale

                  This isn’t intended to feed a troll, but to address a common racist idea.

                  POC can’t/won’t fight. Anyone who has served in the military has to laugh when they read something like this. The backbone of the military, the NCO’s are highly represented by POC. Sure there are more white officers, but then who the fuck cares about officers anyway. NCO’s run shit, and POC make up a huge percentage of them.

                • Origami Isopod

                  POC can’t/won’t fight. Anyone who has served in the military has to laugh when they read something like this.

                  The bigot’s paradox: “They” are terrifying and deadly and must be destroyed/controlled, yet at the same time “they” are also weak, stupid, and cowardly.

                • (((Hogan)))

                  “And of course they’re all mad for fighting,” said Colon. “Vicious buggers with all those curvy swords of theirs.”

                  “You mean, like…they viciously attack you while cowardly running away after tasting cold steel?” said Nobby, who sometimes had a treacherously good memory for detail.

        • Dr. Waffle

          When I encounter people like you, all I have to do is think about Sherman’s March to the Sea and I smile.

          • Troll

            Troll comment deleted

            • Dr. Waffle

              You’re living proof that the very opposite is true.

            • kped

              Sad little troll trying to get people riled up, but he’s just inspiring eye rolls and indifference. Internet shit talkers are so pathetic, masturbating to their perceived online “power” by saying disgusting things.

              • ProgressiveLiberal

                I find it funny that anyone cares about basement dwelling anonymous online trolls. They’re funny to me like backwards ass trump voters, except they are totally harmless.

                • BartletForGallifrey

                  Uh, I’m pretty sure they are Trump voters.

                • Origami Isopod

                  Not only are they Trump voters, they are often not the basement-dwelling trolls they’re depicted as, which is a great way to dismiss the harm they do (especially though not exclusively when it comes to harassing women). Many internet trolls come off as normal adults offline. And a lot of them are doing well enough financially.

      • nixnutz

        I am dismayed that this man voted for obama until trump came along and made him realize it was ok to vote R.

        I’m dismayed that the mods will delete his comments and leave yours because the odds that he will offer something insightful and honest are infinitely better than that you will.

        • ProgressiveLiberal

          LOL you mad?

          • veleda_k

            I’m sure nixnutz appreciates you proving their point for them

            • ProgressiveLiberal

              The problem is that their argument is so transparently silly that it lends itself to parody. And they fucking know it.

              What else is there to do but laugh at them at this point? “I voted for obama cause the racists weren’t loud enough, but this time I won’t have that problem!”

              • Dr. Waffle

                Fucking bigotry, how does it work? It’s almost as if pulling the lever for a black presidential candidate doesn’t preclude one from holding racist, xenophobic, or misogynistic beliefs!

                • veleda_k

                  It turns out, “I can’t be racist, I have black friends” (re-purposed as, “They can’t be racist, they voted for a black man”) and, “We elected a black president, now racism is over,” are narratives that the left is more than happy to advance, as long as it suits their purposes.

                • PhoenixRising

                  Could we not dignify this fool’s battle with an army of strawmen by referring to his jackassery as ‘the left’?

                  He’s not to my left. Is he to yours?

  • XTPD

    Peretz/Sullivan troll alert

  • Troll

    troll comment

    • Dr. Waffle

      May you outlive your children.

      • PhoenixRising

        I’m impressed. That is neither profane nor obscene, and yet gets the point across. Well struck.

        • Origami Isopod

          Agreed. It’s one of the deadliest insults I have ever seen.

  • Troll

    troll

    • YRUasking

      You’re a feral dog and you’ll get gassed soon enough.

      • trolll

        troll comment

  • BartletForGallifrey

    Worth noting that sometimes people do do the right thing.

    Swiftly and with no regrets, a group of men kicked an anti-Semitic creep off of a subway at the Jay St.-Metrotech stop this weekend after the man made disgusting Holocaust jokes and compared Donald Trump’s America to Adolf Hitler’s Germany, according to witnesses.

    “Don’t worry – we won’t round up the pretty Jews,” the man joked while he was riding the subway, according to a witness account posted to Facebook by a woman named Rachel.

    A group of angry men on the subway then said to the man, “This is your stop,” and forced him to get off the subway.

  • troll

    troll

    • BartletForGallifrey

      I just referred to you in another thread as David Duke. I apologize. You’re much more Charles Manson.

      PS No need to capitalize [sic]. It’s not an abbreviation.

    • Dr. Waffle

      You and your ilk deserve the Dresden treatment.

      • Troll

        troll

        • Dr. Waffle

          Oh, I fully acknowledge that sewer-dwelling troglodytes like yourself have to be taught lessons from time to time.

          Now, run along, back to your sad and lonely life. There’s a bag of Cheetos waiting for you.

  • John Revolta

    Mommy! I said bad words to the liberals Mommy! Ooo they got real mad at me

  • efgoldman

    RACIST TROLL ALERT AISLE 2016

    • DrDick

      It is going to be a very fucking long four years!

  • Colin Day

    Dammit, that guy’s wearing a (South) Carolina hat, at least from the garnet background.

  • Mike in DC

    Why is it the most zealous advocates of the “Master Race” generally seem to be the most inferior exemplars thereof?

    • jim, some guy in iowa

      this one always reminds me of the Sam Spade crack “the cheaper the punk the gaudier the patter”

      • N__B

        This seems like the appropriate place to say that Pop__B once sat next to Elisha Cook, Jr. on an airplane. I found out when he came home from his trip and said, with a huge smile, “I met Wilmer.”

  • vic rattlehead

    Re #2, I’d say I’m surprised but: I live here, and it is after all Trump’s home. A good reminder that I’m not insulated from this ugliness just because I’m in New York.

    Haven’t noticed anymore fights or shouting matches than usual on the subway. Did see a MAGA hat the other day but that’s about it. I’m generally on the 2 train perhaps people on other lines have different views.

    • BartletForGallifrey

      I posted a link upthread about a Jewish woman being harassed. There are swastikas popping up all over the city. Multiple Muslim women have been harassed and attacked.

      • vic rattlehead

        I definitely believe it and I have read about that stuff. I guess it’s easy for me to shut out because I haven’t seen any of it firsthand-it’s a big city and I lead an uneventful life. I’ve basically been going to work and coming straight home and holing up in my apartment on the weekends since the election (for mostly unrelated personal reasons). I read about the swastikas but thankfully haven’t seen them yet. And I haven’t gone anywhere near Trump Tower recently. Subway rides have just been the usual crankiness over packed trains during rush hour.

  • Scott etc. have said it makes things easier for them to clean up trolls if commenters don’t reply to them.

    Just sayin’.

  • cpinva

    one advantage of being retired, and having no Dr.s appts, or other required, planned events to attend, is that I have much free time on my hands. I have been re-watching Ken Burn’s excellent Civil War series on You Tube today. I would strongly recommend it be re-watched by everyone. obviously, it isn’t a complete history, but it is eerie, how much is still extant today, 150 years after the end of that huge, bloody conflict, that was supposed to make us a single country, where all were free by default, once and for all.

    • efgoldman

      one advantage of being retired, and having no Dr.s appts

      How do you have no docs’ appointments. It seems all I do, some weeks.
      Are you disgustingly healthy, or do you just not care?

    • Origami Isopod

      One thing I’d mention about Burns’s series, some of which I caught when it was first on TV: He has been rightly criticized by historians for using Shelby Fucking Foote as his primary commentator. That shitbag treated “Southerner” as synonymous with “white Southerner,” claimed that “black contribution to the war was overemphasized,” claimed that the struggle for emancipation “dirtied up the war” rather than having “ennobled” it, and claimed that Reconstruction was “really cruel.”

  • Jerry Vinokurov

    I ride the Lex line on a regular basis. Didn’t see that incident but since the election I’m definitely keeping a lookout for shit like this going down.

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