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As Brockington mentioned earlier, I was placed on the Professor Watch List, a rather lame but not unserious attempt by right-wingers to intimidate supposedly leftist professors in the age of Trump.

On the face of it, this list is stupid. It has a bunch of people on it who are not even radicals, but rather are people who talk about politics in the public sphere. It is full of falsehoods and half-truths about professors. It claims that it is out there to stop commie professors from suppressing free speech in the classroom, and yet includes me because of my history with the NRA, an issue that had nothing to do with the classroom or the university and was about me expressing my own free speech rights.

I was talking to my wife about this and she was perplexed by the whole thing because there are so many lies in how they describe these professors. But if we know anything at all from 2016, it’s that truth and facts don’t matter. As we have seen from the fake news phenomenon, there are millions of people out there who are more than happy to believe anything they read about people they already see as enemies. And here lies the very real danger. It’s hardly surprising that the right would want to institute a blacklist for the modern era. This is an early attempt to create a rough draft of those who would be on that list. There is real money behind it, as the kid putting it together is making a cool $2 million a year from the conservative funding network. You’d think for that money they could alphabetize properly.

Of course, as we are finding with the rise of actual Nazi sympathizers and open racists into the highest reaches of government with the actual cheering of the Ku Klux Klan, it can happen here. And it is happening here. Ignoring such attacks is not useful because they are going to come fast and furious over at least the next four years. Some of those will probably be against me. So I have to prepare for the possibility federal pressure to eliminate leftist professors as part of the broader attack on human rights like we saw during and after World War I. It has happened before and it may well happen again.

Friends of mine on Twitter and Facebook had a variety of responses to the Watchlist. Some were genuinely fearful. This is not the right answer. Fear is what they want. They want to intimidate faculty into not speaking the truth, however one defines it. Rather, we have to see everything thing they do, to immigrants, to African-Americans, to unions, to dissenters, to faculty, as part of a very real attack. It’s either acquiesce or fight. Now, there are many ways to fight. One of the best ways to fight something like this is an overwhelming response to shame and embarrass the jerks putting it together. That’s been a great thing about this. Because since the right now is totally cool with cuddling with Nazis, you can do things like this and be relevant.

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But while all of this has gotten me a few congratulations from colleagues and students, it’s still a very real threat. Over the years, a lot of people like to easily say that they would have stood up and fought the Nazis. Or the Stalinists. Or whatever oppressive regime where we don’t understand how a population could have let bad people take over. But this is how it happens. It’s not overnight until it is. It’s a slow creep, day by day, action by action. It has advanced enormously in 2016. Very bad people are taking power. They have no intention on ever giving up power again if they can help it. It’s now when we have to stand up, as well as when, after a terrorist attack from a Muslim, the Sessions Department of Justice orders concentration camps for American Muslims. This stupid watchlist is very much part of this larger fight.

So the question I would pose to you all is what you are going to do to fight rising fascism. We can’t all do everything. But we can work with the organizations we already work with to turn them into anti-fascist organizations ready to fight for all who are oppressed by this regime. I have doubled down on work in my own union over the past two weeks to prepare for this. I gave a talk to our school’s graduate student union to encourage them to see their union as the front line in fighting the oppression their members will face, both with the likely decline of union rights and the fact that so many of their members are here on visas from Asian, African, Middle Eastern, and Latin American nations. I played a very small role in facilitating a 1000 person meeting in Providence the Saturday after the election of people desperate for something to do. And of course I’ve been writing. None of this turns me into a great leader, but it’s trying to prepare for the attacks to come by using whatever limited skills I have. And we all have some skills to bring to the table. This is why I am frustrated by the left-liberal screaming on Twitter about the election and its meanings, which always happens to reinforce whatever take the writer already had before November 8. This is why I am equally contemptuous of Class Not Race people and Every Trump Voter is a Racist so Let’s Denigrate Actual Economic Anxiety people. Because none of this helps us face the facts that we are going to be dealing with starting on January 20, 2017.

If something happens to me or my job during this administration, I am at least going to know that I did whatever I could to fight this. I urge all of you to do the same. Even if it starts by insulting and trolling those trying to create the new blacklist.

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  • Denverite

    Don’t forget that Professor Jones got his PhD from the University of Chicago (that ogre Ravenswood was his dissertation adviser) and Chicago PhDs are the fucking WORST.

    • (((Hogan)))

      And his father was an immigrant.

      • Denverite

        Yeah, but the white, English-speaking ones aren’t “immigrants,” right?

        • (((Hogan)))

          Wait, Scots are white now?

          • Denverite

            Debatable. But I think the canonical Henry Jones, Sr. was Welsh.

            • (((Hogan)))

              Not that being Welsh is an improvement, but Wikipedia tells me he was born in Scotland

              • Denverite

                I think Wikipedia is wrong. There’s a Young Indiana Jones Chronicles episode where it’s reflected that Welsh Gaelic is one of the few languages that Indy doesn’t speak, which is an oddity because his family is from Wales.

                [ETA: Btw, Sean Connery almost ran me over when I was running outside of St Andrews during the 1996 Dunhill Open.]

                • (((Hogan)))

                  I bow to your superior knowledge of canon and closer acquaintance with Connery.

                • PohranicniStraze

                  Is Welsh Gaelic a real thing in the Indie universe?

                • Denverite

                  It was the May 1916 episode, the intertubes tell me.

                • wjts

                  I remember that episode. He’s bantering with a woman, and they go back and forth trying to stump each other with different languages. She says something in Welsh, and he can’t respond. Then she says, “Your last name is ‘Jones’ and you don’t speak Welsh?” I think the point is that the surname Jones is of Welsh origin, not that his immediate family is Welsh.

                • CP

                  Wow. I thought I was the only person who’d actually watched Young Indy.

                  And yes, I don’t think they ever cleared this up canonically. The family name and Sean Connery’s accent allows you to infer that the heritage is British Isles and probably Celtic, but you never get a Skyfall-esque confirmation.

                • Denverite

                  I think the point is that the surname Jones is of Welsh origin, not that his immediate family is Welsh.

                  I think you’re right, and probably so is Hogan. Grrrr.

                • mikeSchilling

                  Who in the world calls it Welsh Gaelic? That’s like saying we speak English Scandinavian.

          • Davis X. Machina

            They’re white, and came over from Ireland — they’re the Scots of Dal Riada.

            The Picts are the blued and tattooed ones.

            Do try and keep up.

            • (((Hogan)))

              Nac Mac Feegle wha hae!

              • wjts

                Nae King! Nae quin! Nae Laird! Nae master! We willna’ be fooled agin!

                • MPAVictoria

                  Man I miss Terry Pratchet so much

                • Philip

                  Me too. I used to reread the Witches books pretty often. I’ve stayed away from them since Shepherd’s Crown because I can’t read Granny Weatherwax anymore. He wrote his own death in hers. In a very real way I grew up hiding away in the Discworld, and I’m still just not ready for him to be gone.

                • Calming Influence

                  “Oh no, she’s doin’ the crossin’ of the arms, and the tappin’ of the foot! Waily waily waily!”

                • mikeSchilling

                  An’ things ha’ come to a pretty pass, ye ken, if people are going to leave stuff like that aroound where innocent people could accidentally smash the door doon and lever the bars aside and take the big chain off’f the cupboard and pick the lock and drink it!

          • N__B

            Wait, Scots speak English now?

            • Denverite

              My favorite is when Scots tell me I’m pronouncing my surname wrong. (It’s a very Scottish name that has slightly different pronunciations in American and Scots English.) I’m like, when did you learn English?

          • Ahuitzotl

            It’s hard to imagine getting anyone whiter than a Scot, tbh

    • J. Otto Pohl

      The professor that inspired Indiana Jones, however, taught at SOAS a school no US search committee has ever heard of.

      https://www.soas.ac.uk/news/newsitem104621.html

  • Bubblegum Tate

    What if we sicced them on the Ole Perfesser?

    • howard

      now that is a brilliant suggestion….

  • Charlie S

    I’m going to go over and add myself. Why should fictional characters get all the credit?

    And yes, the fact that they alphabetize the list by first name is precious.

    • Davis X. Machina

      Ace database design.

    • DrDick

      I was quite disappointed to learn that I am not on there yet. As an actual Marxist cultural anthropologist who teaches classes on gender and on race and ethnicity, I clearly need to try harder!

      • Ahuitzotl

        THat’s the trouble – anyone openly a Marxist is so obviously a double agent* that they wont want to list him, for fear of outing him. Especially someone from OK, come to think of it.

        *because who else would assert it openly?

    • efgoldman

      the fact that they alphabetize the list by first name is precious.

      Years ago, after months of begging, I got my department head at Enormous Brokerage & Mutual Funds LLC to hire us a summer file clerk (back before everything was scanned; miles and miles of files and files). She had just graduated Georgetown in, I think, pre-law, and she was going to start grad school at the Fletcher School in the fall.
      We had to let her go after a couple of weeks. She didn’t know how to alphabetize!

    • Manju

      I just reviewed Stanford’s biology department. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS BIASED AGAINST CREATIONISM!

      Put them on the list too.

  • howard

    i just want to emphasize – in a depressed way – your discussion of how much of the rise of authoritarianism is the slow but steady grinding away of norms and civility and the rule of law and replacing it with arbitrary power that, exactly as you say, leads to fear everywhere.

    we saw this in eastern europe under soviet imperialism – as the files were opened up, it turned out that more or less everyone was an informer because they had been intimidated.

    these are dark days indeed, and the only bright side is that the election was a stripping away of illusion: as an american jew whose great grandparental and a fair amount of his grandparental generation were wiped out in the holocaust, i’ve always known conceptually that it can happen here, but i had truly believed we had turned a corner, and i was wrong.

  • LWA

    I’m not an academic so I will yield to the judgement of those who are, but is there wisdom to organizing a campaign to methodically add the name of every single professor in America, a to z?
    Drowning the list in data ,so to speak?

    • Davis X. Machina

      This is the best way, I think — if it weren’t for the doxxing-ness of it.

      In addition to making the database unusable, I think you’d garner some allies along the way, either right-leaning bods who don’t roll this McCarthyite way — not many, but they’re there — and perhaps radicalize some stand-patters who don’t even know such shit goes on.

      • It might also run the risk of endangering people who were especially vulnerable/made especially easy targets, who had for whatever reason not been put on the list already.

  • ASV

    Quite disappointed that nobody from my current institution, my grad alma mater, or my undergrad alma mater are listed. Perhaps if Kathy Cramer had taken a harsher tack in The Politics of Resentment.

    • efgoldman

      This is reminiscent of the journalists and other people who were disappointed and insulted to find out their names weren’t on Tricksie Dicksie Nixie’s Enemies List.

      • ASV

        It’s a good reminder to redouble my efforts in 2017.

    • J. Otto Pohl

      One person from my undergrad alma mater is listed. She is also one of my FB friends. But, I can’t even identify a half dozen names on the list.

  • guthrie

    So basically you can’t rely on your university/ employer to protect you from this sort of thing?

    • When push comes to shove, no one can rely on an employer for anything at all. I am not worried about it at this time. But if the government said, we will give you these big grants but in exchange you need to cut a couple of people loose, it’s pretty easy to see an administration making that call if times got a little more restrictive.

      • Denverite

        Talk to Lemieux about tenure and job security.

      • pianomover

        NY Times crossword, 4 letter word for employer

        USER

        • DrDick

          Actually, that would be “abuser.”

          • pianomover

            That’s the 6 letter answer.

        • DocAmazing

          Four-letter word for employer?

          O, the temptation…

        • mikeSchilling

          “scum”

  • Karen24

    My own personal goal for the next four years is to be banned from as many conservative blogs as I possibly can. I have already been banned fromt two for the following: “So please explain how [insert horrible anti-feminist idea] really works?” This is especially effective on religious blogs, because I actually still go to church and can sling Scripture and theology as well as anyone who didn’t graduate from a real seminary.

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    • J. Otto Pohl

      You are obviously not trying very hard because I have seen no such attempts to be banned from my blog and my blog is the most right wing reactionary blog written by a US citizen with a PhD from SOAS and living in Kurdistan out there.

      • postmodulator

        I genuinely can’t tell if this is Jotto or a nymjacker mocking Jotto.

        • J. Otto Pohl

          Of course it is me. I am not even a big enough fish for somebody else to mock. But, check out these right wing articles referenced in this blog post.

          http://jpohl.blogspot.com/2016/11/my-articles-dealing-with-africa.html

          • Ahuitzotl

            but you’re annoyingly open to reason at the most surprising times, so you’re clearly not a real conservative.

    • StellaB

      Sadly, I have only been banned from Washington Monthly by David Atkins for saying bad things about the supporters of the Saint From Vermont.

      • I often disagree with Atkins myself, but what does saying bad things about Bernie supporters do for us on November 24, 2016?

        • MilitantlyAardvark

          We also hould be asking what the Clinton die-hards think they are achieving by vilifying Bernie, as the more knuckle-headed among them continue to do. I am looking at far too many of the Balloon-Juice crew here. Stupidity is not a strategy, but they keep pursuing the mythical Evil Bernie as if it will somehow change reality and usher Clinton into the White House.

          • daves09

            Perhaps if the saint from Vermont and his bernie bros spent even half their time going after Trump and the rethugs instead of continuing his vendetta against the dems.
            I hate that self righteous old fraud. If Gabbard turns down her Trump job maybe Bernie can fill in.

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  • Ruviana

    ETA:

    Don’t need the alert anymore.

  • JL

    If I have to remove “Donald Trump”, “Fake McFakeName”, “Munchma Quchi”, “Suq Madiq”, various Red Sox players who are not actually students at or alums of my university, and the duplicates created by well-meaning people who apparently can’t read the instructions, from our sanctuary campus petition, I’m glad that right-wingers have to play whack-a-troll with their webforms too.

    Anyway, some things I am doing:

    – The aforementioned sanctuary campus petition

    – Organizing with If Not Now (the progressive Jewish group behind #JewishResistance, whose protests got Bannon to punt the ZOA gala) and medicking their protests

    – All the stuff I was already doing

    – Organizing a street medic training

    – Connecting newly mobilized people to activism opportunities

    – Gearing up for the inauguration protests, I guess. I’m imagining the RNC protests – specifically, that kind of interaction between fascists, the left, and cops – with unknown size and intensity multipliers.

    – Phonebanking for Foster Campbell’s Senate runoff race in Louisiana

    – I had been thinking of doing this anyway, but if I can find a couple of free weeks this summer, I want to go volunteer in the field with No More Deaths (which provides humanitarian aid to migrants and deportees in the US/Mexico border desert). Unfortunately their spring break program does not coincide with my campus’ spring break.

    – Probably some more citizenship clinics with the MIRA Coalition to help people apply for US citizenship

    – Maybe some work with the Boston Workmen’s Circle Jewish/Muslim Relations Committee? Apparently they’ve had a huge interest spike in the wake of the election.

    • DocAmazing

      You’ve basically done all our work for us!

  • BiloSagdiyev

    Stupid, half-thruths, falsehoods? Features, not a bug. Wielding lots of power arbitraritly gives them a boner, and scares others into compliance.

    Besides, nuance is for liberals. Unless we’re talking about the differences between semi-auto hunting rifles and semi-auto assault rifles, in which case, it’s time for a 10 minute lecture about how wimpy libs don’t know nuffin’ about guns and all of the many neat little features to fondle yourself over.

    The Business – Employers’ Blacklist
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5mPm-3BqS0I

    Young Pioneers’ less bouncy, even noisier cover:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=OjFIeXf5Q_M

  • BiloSagdiyev

    McCarthy and Roy Cohn — thank goodness that’s all in the past and nobody who ever was friends with them is in power now. Well, not for two more months, at least.

    Certain new posters here need to GO BACK TO EUROPE! (shake fist) But only if they promise to do the principled thing and buy private health insurance as an individual.

    • COnrad

      You forgot the sarcasm font.

      And Roy Cohn walked straight out of central casting didn’t he? “We need someone to play a hate-filled, evil lawyer.” “Here you go.” “Perfect.”

      • postmodulator

        If a liberal author had made up Roy Cohn he’d be criticized for the guy being too cartoonishly evil and pathetic. Ruthlessly ambitious? Sadistically cruel? Personally corrupt? Ultimately ineffective? Closeted gay man who supported homophobes? Early victim of AIDS who covered it up?

        You can see why Tony Kushner had to use the guy, is my point.

        • Origami Isopod

          The last few decades have introduced me to a lot of characters on the national scene who’d be deemed far too unrealistic as fictional characters.

          • mds

            You misspelled “weeks.”

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  • UncleEbeneezer

    I tried to add Ann Althouse to the list for injecting sexual imagery into her analysis of pop culture, but got an error response saying that the “Form” had reached capacity. Hopefully, it’s people trolling hard.

    • Charlie S

      I received the same message attempting to add myself. Very disappointing.

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    • BiloSagdiyev

      I like acorn pancakes.

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      • rachelmap

        What do you do about the tannic acid?

  • CP

    He also regularly neglects his teaching to engage in anti-fascist activities.

    Obligatory point: as much as there is not to like about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, I really loved that it included Indy being blacklisted by the FBI. Because OF COURSE that’s what would happen to a guy with that kind of Premature Anti Fascist record after 1945.

  • pantsonfire

    The good news is that I logged into this site to spend a couple of hours posting nonsense professor’s names and outrages, but got the following notice after the first one:

    “The result storage capacity has been reached for this form. Your result was not created. Please contact the form owner.”

    Hard to tell if a lot of sane people are inundating them with spurious posts or fascists are sending in names of actual profs.

  • mombrava

    The stupidity of this is amazing. Eric and Richard Posner are both on there, even though they’re absolutely no one’s ideas of anti-American radicals. At least Horowitz’s list is a catalog of the mostly genuine left.

    • postmodulator

      Seriously? That Richard Posner?

      • N__B

        Posner believes in objective reality. Of course he’s on the list.

  • MPAVictoria

    Militant Anti-Fascism- A Hundred Years of Resistance is available as a free download here for the next few days: https://www.akpress.org/militant-anti-fascism-e-book.html

    After reading it the lesson seems to be that if those on the left don’t stick together we are all absolutely hopelessly fucked. We may be fucked anyway but if we spend all oue time attacking each other over the meaning of the word “but” in a tweet or who gets to make a podcast about politics then we don’t have a chance. Time to put aside past grievances and support each other. I am game. I hope you are as well.

    • Drexciya

      The New Inquiry has a solid and responsive reading list with a surprising number of the books and pieces I’d throw up as a “Leftism/Anti-fascism 101” introduction (including the one you suggested), depending on who I’m introducing it to. That said:

      We may be fucked anyway but if we spend all oue time attacking each other over the meaning of the word “but” in a tweet or who gets to make a podcast about politics then we don’t have a chance. Time to put aside past grievances and support each other.

      This is not what putting aside a grievance or support looks like, and this is why it’s not in the horizon and why it’s not desirable for it to be on the horizon.

      • MPAVictoria

        “Why it’s not desirable for it to be on the horizon.”

        So they will pick us off one by one as we argue about personalities. ..

        • Drexciya

          The left is broadly arguing about substantially more than personalities, and I’m not especially moved by the assumption of shared concerns or interests when the fact that they’re not shared is reflected in how their vocalization is framed.

          • MPAVictoria

            In my opinion this is just incorrect. The left broadly wants equality and solidarity. They want gay marriage, equal rights for women, full and equal participation for POC in society and an end to unneeded poverty and suffering. They may not use the same words as you or agree on the same methods but the goals are the same.

            /They also fucking hate fascists and the strongest opposition to the far right has always come from Socialists/Communists/Anarchists and not establishment liberals.

            • J. Otto Pohl

              Except for 23 August 1939 to 22 June 1941. Then the Communists didn’t express any opposition to fascists.

              • MPAVictoria

                touche. Of course reactionaries like you didn’t sacrifice millions in the drive to Berlin now did you?

                • J. Otto Pohl

                  Actually that isn’t true unless you think that Stalin and Beria personally rather than rank and file Red Army soldiers defeated the Nazis.

                  http://jpohl.blogspot.com/2012/10/russian-germans-in-red-army.html

                • MPAVictoria

                  J. Millions of Soviet troops died on the Eastern Front destroying fascism. The fact that some of them had German ancestry doesn’t change that.

                • J. Otto Pohl

                  Most of those millions of Soviet troops were not members of the CPSU but rather conscripts. Millions of them were from people like Ukrainians and Muslim nationalities that “progressives” deem to be essentially reactionary and fascist by blood including thousands of Germans.

                  http://jpohl.blogspot.com/2012/10/russian-germans-in-anti-nazi-partisan.html

                • MPAVictoria

                  “that “prorgressives” deem to be essentially reactionary and fascist by blood including thousands of Germans.”

                  *Backs slowly away

                • brad

                  The simple fact is there are authoritarians on both sides, and given the reins they will end in similarly horrific circumstances for those ruled by them. Anti-fascist doesn’t mean anti-authoritarian.

                • J. Otto Pohl

                  How else does one explain the position towards the Crimean Tatars taken by the KKE and other “progressive” political parties and movements?

                  https://www.academia.edu/4836303/The_False_Charges_of_Treason_Against_the_Crimean_Tatars

            • Drexciya

              The left broadly wants equality and solidarity. They want gay marriage, equal rights for women, full and equal participation for POC in society and an end to unneeded poverty and suffering. They may not use the same words as you or agree on the same methods but the goals are the same.

              At what point does execution belie intention? Is that possible, insofar as leftism in practice is concerned? Solidarity with whom?

              /They also fucking hate fascists and the strongest opposition to the far right has always come from Socialists/Communists/Anarchists and not establishment liberals.

              What is a good example of a leftist outlet that’s spending more time attacking the far right than they are attacking “establishment liberals?” Which ones have, to borrow Loomis’s fascinating language, presupposed that every Trump Voter Is A Racist and have accordingly showered them with the hatred the left, by your description, reserves for the far right?

              • MPAVictoria

                “At what point does execution belie intention? Is that possible, insofar as leftism in practice is concerned? Solidarity with whom?”

                I am offering solidarity now. Right here.

                “What is a good example of a leftist outlet that’s spending more time attacking the far right than they are attacking “establishment liberals?” Which ones have, to borrow Loomis’s fascinating language, presupposed that every Trump Voter Is A Racist and have accordingly showered them with the hatred the left, by your description, reserves for the far right?”

                Almost all of them. You are reading them (if you even ARE reading them) through your biases and latching on to individual events that confirm them.

                Also is the party line here that EVERY Trump voter is a fascist? Can’t some just be misinformed or misguided? Hillary Clinton said that only half were the true deplorables.

                • Drexciya

                  I’m going to reiterate the following questions:

                  At what point does execution belie intention? Is that possible, insofar as leftism in practice is concerned?

                  Because I think an answer to them will illustrate what your solidarity offers, and the conditions necessary for you to offer it. I will also say, preemptively, and out of fairness, that the nature of those conditions can easily reflect divergences in goals. Divergences that I recognize and which you mistakenly reduce to “personality.”

                  Also is the party line here that EVERY Trump voter is a fascist? Can’t some just be misinformed or misguided? Hillary Clinton said that only half were the true deplorables.

                  I don’t see how hating the far right, as you claim the left does, is compatible with discounting the fascist intentions of people who voted for a fascist. These people did, after all, have agency, and Trump was nothing if not clear about what his empowerment would mean in practice. Claiming that they’re “misguided” or “misinformed” seems to be providing a political pathway for sympathy for them. Do Trump voters also get solidarity? Which ones? And if so, to what extent can you claim to be reliably anti-fascist? What does being militantly anti-fascist mean if half of its active enablers are, to gloss what I see to be the subtext, good people deep down?

            • brad

              Look at what brocialists like ghostship and slothrop argue here and tell me they’re Drex’s allies. The identity someone claims can be a pose just as much as a statement of principles and actions.
              Freddie is another great example, and his telling feminists how to feminist. It’s about, for some, getting to tell themselves they’re good, compassionate people who care about Others. There’s a big, big step that many haven’t taken. People aren’t Other, at least not to me.

              Which is far from a claim of personal purity.

              • Drexciya

                I disagree with none of this. I’d just rephrase and say that what’s being sought after here, by the people the left claims to serve, is accountability. How many times do the interests of people of color have to be discounted and reduced to a grammatical objection before it’s understood that there’s an ideological and positional opposition to incorporating them? How many times does a woman have to get harassed, as a sex worker recently was, before it’s understood that, in practice, regardless of its goals, its actions see the equality it clamors for as a subordinate priority?

                It’s very easy to say “I want what you want” but why is it that when I pursue what I want, and you pursue what you want, our concerns end up dismissed, rejected and smudged under the auspices of some higher, shared principle, determined by people and institutions that are astonishingly devoid of people like me? At what point do we get to say that’s not an accident? What does solidarity even mean if the people it supposedly serves have no say in the terms?

                • J. Otto Pohl

                  Well the solidarity offered to the Black Diaspora by the Soviet communists MPA likes so much looked like this.

                  https://www.academia.edu/27802561/Is_there_a_Black_Eurasia_Ghanaian_and_other_Diasporic_African_Populations_in_the_USSR_in_Comparative_Perspective

                • brad

                  I think we can also agree that “I want what you want” is simply dishonest in that it fails to say the always attached “now be quiet and fall in line behind me”.

                • Drexciya

                  Yup. And it massively overstates the degree to which “what you want” is actually understood (instead of conveniently caricatured), as both a political and policy matter.

                • brad

                  It’s the idea that all those victimized groups will be given a space of their own once the good guys win, a cookie for participation.
                  It seems… obvious that this is denying anyone treated that way an actual seat at the table to be part of the fundamental structure.

                • why is it that when I pursue what I want, and you pursue what you want, our concerns end up dismissed, rejected and smudged under the auspices of some higher, shared principle, determined by people and institutions that are astonishingly devoid of people like me?

                  Exactly.

                  WHY?

                • brad

                  I realize it’s a rhetorical question, really, but the clear answer why is conceit. Slothrop’s reduction of everything to class is the classic white guy mistaking himself for the definition of all things. We don’t suffer the wounds of discrimination and so (please read the following in scare quotes) we aren’t limited by the trauma or deprivation of being Othered. We simply know better, and all those “special interests” need to realize they’re subsets and small groups and focus on the greater good which the brocialist is unencumbered enough to see more clearly. I was dumb enough to believe something similar briefly in my early teens, before my brain continued developing sufficiently to understand better.
                  But privilege can arrest development, especially for those with narcissistic tendencies.

        • Origami Isopod

          as we argue about personalities. ..

          Would an example of that be Drexciya’s and other people’s objections (mine included) to this racism-denying piece from your beloved Jacobin, written by the genocide-denying son of a genocide denialist?

          • J. Otto Pohl

            As white Muslims I don’t think anybody on the left supports the Bosnians. Like other similar groups such as the Crimean Tatars and Palestinian Arabs they have been systematically slandered as Nazi collaborators by the left and that makes them fair game for the denial of all human rights in the eyes of true “progressives.”

            • (((Malaclypse)))

              As white Muslims I don’t think anybody on the left supports the Bosnians.

              I don’t remember the 90s either.

      • Yeah, no, I’m not signing onto anything that equates support for D candidates, or even Green candidates, with “treason,” and I’m surprised this is a comments section that stuff would appeal to.

        • Origami Isopod

          My impression was that the New Inquiry is implying that radical-left activities will soon be deemed treasonous, not that Dems or Greens are traitors.

  • The Lorax

    Gary Gutting? Peter Singer?

    Gary Gutting?

  • BiloSagdiyev

    I worry about a future where everybody has a rating, like ebay and amazon users, and restaurant rating apps. Of course, it will be justice for assholes and credit to the well-mannered and pleasant people, but of course, there will be the bearing of false witness. (Even though so much of our country is Christian, donchaknow.)

    Just imagine what would happen if our side set up an app to catalog iand rate every foul utterance and action taken by people in daily life? Call this app “BitterandClinging” or “Basket of Deplorables.”. The howling of PC oppression would never stop.

    • guthrie

      See the investigation done into such a future by Cory Doctorow in “Down and out in the Magic Kingdom”.

    • Matt McIrvin

      MeowMeowBeenz!

  • Cheerful

    So the question I would pose to you all is what you are going to do to fight rising fascism. We can’t all do everything. But we can work with the organizations we already work with to turn them into anti-fascist organizations ready to fight for all who are oppressed by this regime.

    My humble suggestion is to use the existing national political advocacy organization that is institutionally designed to oppose Trump and probably is having meetings right now near you – The Democratic Party. Go to local meetings and demand that there be forums, workshops, public meetings where people organize to defeat the Republicans in power and fight fascism.

    The crap that is coming now and will really come soon is going to be on a broad scale. On the same day will be terrible plans, proposals actions, regarding voting rights, medicare,, climate change and Trump corruption. Responses should be broad scale too, and also look to an achievable alternative.

    Take over the Democratic party. Make it do some real work now.

  • leftwingfox

    What am I doing to stop fascism?

    Finally getting therapy for depression and anxiety.

    I should be in a good place to help others, but right now, I don’t have the ability to follow through with anything or to put myself out into the public sphere beyond commenting.

    So maybe if I finally stop procrastinating to get some professional help for my procrastination issues, I can finally do something other than talking on blogs.

    • BartletForGallifrey

      You have to put on your own air mask before you help others.

      • leftwingfox

        Yeah.

        Also, I live in the riding where Kellie Leich is trying to gain power as Canada’s Trump. This will not fucking stand.

        • Ask Me Gently

          Kevin Reality TV Blowhard O’Leary is “assembling” a team and making fresh noises.

          That doesn’t really help, does it?

  • Brad Nailer

    That is one of the greatest photos ever taken. You can just smell the green slime of slander and bullshit pouring out of Cohn’s mouth, and hear the nasty little wheels turning in McCarthy’s booze-addled head. God, this country has produced some world-class motherfuckers over our relatively brief history.

    And, history repeats! Cohn and Trump: like brothers.

  • Ramon A. Clef

    what you are going to do to fight rising fascism

    I’ve been thinking about this, and one thing I can do is to put the raise I recently got to good use funding the fight. It only remains to determine which voting rights organization I will support.

  • Webstir

    Apparently the LGM blog rollers aren’t left enough to warrant inclusion on this list that was also “founded” in 2016:
    http://www.propornot.com/p/the-list.html?m=1

    • Origami Isopod

      I’m grinning at seeing Naked Capitalism and Zero Hedge on there. As well as a bunch of long-time wingnut sites, especially Gates of Vienna. And woo-woo sites like Natural News.

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