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We think of lynching as something whites did to African-Americans and that was of course often the case. But the use of extralegal violence to eliminate perceived threats without a trial was pretty common. Whites were often lynched, especially in power struggles in the West. There’s also a long history of lynching Latinos in the Southwest, a part of American history almost totally forgotten. That’s especially tragic because the white supremacy driving the lynchings of African-Americans was the same impulse leading whites to kill Mexican-Americans at the same time. Our racial history is so often reduced to black-white, but it’s really whites versus all people of color.

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  • Lee Rudolph

    it’s really whites versus all people of color.

    Wasn’t it here that I recently read of some historic lynching of Chinese on the West Coast? Or was that merely a massacre?

    • I’ve talked about the Rock Springs Massacre in the labor history series but I guess that doesn’t technically count as lynching.

      • I’m pretty sure Chinese, Irish and Jewish immigrants, in addition to Native Americans have been victims of this form of terrorism.

        That’s not to exclude other non-AngloGerman people, but those are the only ones I can think of without doing research.

        • B.I.

          Sicilians were also lynched in the American south.

          • Anonymous

            Sicilians and Italians should be flogged wherever they are found.

            • Origami Isopod, Commisar [sic] of Ideology for the Bolsheviks

              Clean-up on Aisle 3. I think the above crosses a line.

  • Anonymous

    of course you don’t say anything about the jews who were lynched in crown height and the black liberal mayor whose response to the lynchings was “let them vent. David Dinkins is the American Hitler Al Sharton is the American Goebbels.

    • DrDick

      And you are the village idiot.

    • wjts

      Mother Night was not a documentary.

    • carolannie1949

      Also, Mr anonymous Dinkins described the deaths of two men, one of whom was jewish, as lynching. it would be nice if you engaged in facts rather than random regurgitations from breitbart.com

  • There’s also a long history of lynching Latinos in the Southwest, a part of American history almost totally forgotten.

    That’s what sparked “Harmonica,” in Once Upon a Time in the West.

  • cpinva

    along with the usual racism, I suspect some of those lynchings of latinos (probably native Mexicans) in the southwest had to do with land ownership. part of the treaty of Guadalupe-hidalgo was that the US gov’t agreed to recognize the land ownership rights of native Mexicans, in the territory ceded by mexico. the vast majority of these native Mexicans were subsistence farmers, owning a few acres of land. interestingly enough, it turns out to be easier to steal land from dead people, than it is from live ones.

    • No question that was a piece of it. Although probably only a relatively small percentage I would guess. But some, definitely.

    • Boro

      California had virtually no small landowning farmers, but was divided between huge haciendas, farmed initially by Indians is slave-like conditions, much like Mexico before the Mexican Revolution. This land was slowly divided up when the landowners married into the elite of American settlers, who slowly sold it or broke it up between multiple heirs.

      • cpinva

        California wasn’t the only land ceded by mexico, the cession included (in whole or in part) an area which today comprises roughly 6 states, all of which had native Mexican settlers working lands in them.

        “OK, whites are uniquely racist. How about uniquely violent?”

        neither. using hatred of “the other”, as a pretext for the violence necessary to steal what “the other” has, is a game everyone can, and does play, since humans first walked the planet.

        • DrDick

          Pretty much the northern third of Mexico.

      • Gwin

        California ranchos were sold off in pieces to pay for the legal fees and surveys necessary for the landholder to defend their titles in court.

  • Boro

    So whites are uniquely violent and savage?

    • You are not uniquely racist, unfortunately. But racist, definitely.

      • MAJeff

        He’s morally, ethically
        Spiritually, physically
        Positively absolutely
        Undeniably and reliably racist.

        Ding dong, the troll is racist
        Which old troll?
        Almost any old troll!
        Ding dong, the silly troll is racist!

    • Boro

      OK, whites are uniquely racist. How about uniquely violent?

      • KmCO

        White racists sure do appear to be uniquely defensive.

        • DrDick

          And dumb.

    • Anonymous

      notice the Loomis hasn’t said anything about the Jews lynched at Crown Heights and Freddie’s Fashion Mart, it should be clear based on this and his posting about Israel that he simply hates Jews.

    • elm

      The powerful group in society tends to defend its power, often using violence. In the U.S., that tends to mean white Christians. In other places, it means other, often non-white or non-Christian groups.

    • Sly

      What white people need is a white Nelson Mandela to show them how to be non-violent, but we may have to settle for a white Saddam Hussein who can control their violent impulses by force.

      • Nelson Mandela was many things, and he is someone I admire greatly, but to call him non violent is risible.

  • Just what we need – “Equal Opportunity” Racists!

    When you look at “our” heritage, the best you can say, is that at least we didn’t hang every single fucking Native American and leave them hanging from a tree like a ‘strange fruit!

    FUCK YOU, ALL Y’LL TROLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • On a similar note, despite it being the title of a hit song a while back, you can go around Los Angeles and not find 100 people under the age of 80 who know what the “zoot suit riots” were.

    • DocAmazing

      Don’t start me talking about the hit song. You have to be exceptionally stupid to make a party anthem about white sailors beating the shit out of Latino Angelenos.

      • Agreed. They could have picked tons of events from the swing era for phony nostalgia. But not that.

      • Tyto

        Don’t sell the riots short: plenty of local law enforcement personnel and other upstanding citizens were involved, too.

  • LeeEsq

    Don’t forget about Leo Frank.

  • FlipYrWhig

    One of the things the World Cup demonstrates is how many skin colors there are in South and Central America. The relationship between cultural whiteness, pale complexions, and national origins is wicked complex. Will Latinos ever make the leap to “whiteness” the way Italians and Irish and Greeks did, or by that time will we have finally gotten over fussing about who’s Really White?

    • M Young

      “Latino” is a made-up term.

      The “Latinos” in the United States are overwhelmingly Mestizo, which should be the proper term to refer to them. We’re not getting Castillians from Argentina or Uruguay.

      • DrDick

        And another Stormfront refugee heard from. You do realize that all those terms you used are just made up and we are all just “humans”?

        • M Young

          You don’t really believe that we’re all “just human”. Do you want to repudiate affirmative action, for example?

          • Sly

            A firm acceptance of equality does necessitate the repudiation of affirmative action policies, but the wholesale adoption thereof.

            • Sly

              “does not” -ed

          • DrDick

            Yes I do believe that and it has nothing to do with affirmative action, which seeks to redress the ongoing marginalization and exclusion of one group by the dominant group. It would not matter what the nature of the group is for that to be worthwhile. You on the other hand believe in cranioproctology.

      • Hogan

        “Mestizo” is a made-up term, as are Castilian, Argentina, and Uruguay.

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    • ironic irony

      Anyone with even a tiny bit of knowledge of Latin American history already knows this. Americans seem to think all Latinos look like Mexican mestizos.

  • Patricia Kayden

    Interesting post. Never knew that Latinos were also victimized by lynchings. Sadly not suprised.

  • M Young

    Everything you need to know about lynchings in one chart:

    http://tinyurl.com/qel3vfs

    There were more blacks murdered in Detroit by other blacks last year in Detroit alone than were killed by whites in an 82 year time frame.

    • M Young

      Er, lynched by whites.

    • Hogan

      Detroit? You’re getting your conservative fantasy hellholes mixed up. Pretty telling, really.

      • M Young

        Same basic point but here’s the correct link:

        http://tinyurl.com/pzaygzz

        Detroit homicides 2012-13: 3,699. That’s one year.

        ALL lynching deaths from 1882-1968: 4,743

        Any questions?

        • DrDick

          Any questions?

          Yeah, is it a slow day over at Stormfront, cracker?

          • M Young

            I really enjoyed that logical, fact-based response to the statistics provided. You really showed me!

            • Brownian

              So, if every ‘race realist’ like you were to be shot in the face, by your logic it’d be okay because it’d be a drop in the bucket compared to the white-on-white violence of WWI.

              That’s super excellent to know.

              • DrDick

                Where did I put my pistol …..

            • DrDick

              For all values of “statistics” = irrelevant bullshit having no significance to anyone other than racist assholes. As others have pointed out those numbers are meaningless.

        • Johnnie

          You can’t even quote your racist source correctly. That’s a decade’s worth of homicides you fucking twit.

          • delurking

            Well, you can’t expect Stormfront denizens to read sources correctly. Especially sources with numbers.

            I mean, come on. How much book-larnin’ do you think a Stormtrooper gets?

            • That fancy book-lernin’ is just for elitists anyhow.

              • You mean “Jews”, don’t you. Only race traitors beat around the bush like that, YT.

                • Tristan

                  All books are written by The Jew QED

        • cpinva

          “Any questions?”

          yes, actually. how long does it take you to come up with non logical comparative data, or do you just steal it from someone else? serially, people want to know! ok, I made that last part up, no one really gives a shit.

          lynchings, in a historical context, and current crime in Detroit (new York, Chicago, new Orleans, etc., etc.), are not equivalent. unless people are currently being lynched in those cities.

        • djw

          Detroit homicides 2012-13: 3,699. That’s one year.

          Unsurprisingly, this is BS. Over the two years in question, there were just over 700 homicides in Detroit.

    • JustinV

      Lynching and murder are different categories. Lynching is an act of extrajudicial killing carried out by a mob in “punishment” for some perceived offense. It is especially damaging to society for that reason, it is a crime by the majority that purports to usurp the proper functions of justice. Also, Detroit is a majority black city, so we would expect that most crime was black on black by nature. I guess I mean that your point is ill thought and obviously silly.

      • cpinva

        rats! I should have read farther, before responding. and here I was, soooooooooooooooo proud of myself!

  • Michael H Schneider

    This is tangential, but it does relate to racial conflict in the US Southwest.

    “They’ve become the greedy, grubbing capitalists”. So said Leonard Tsosie, Navajo delegate to the Navajo Nation Council’s Naa’bik’iyati’ Committee, referring to Hopi and Zuni objections to the Navajo plan to do a tourist development at the confluence of the Colorado and Little Colorado rivers. The project involves a gondola tram, hotel, RV park, gas station, restaurant, and other amenities.

    “Hopi Tribal Chair Herman Honanie stated in a June 12 letter to [Navajo Nation President} Shelly that the area in question, referred to as the “Confluence” is among the most significant religious and sacred sites for the Hopi people …”

    I’m quoting from the July 7, 2014 issue of the Gallup Independent, which is in front of me. Someone with stronger Google-fu than I might be able to find it online.

  • M Young

    As much as Loomis would like to make it look like non-whites vs. whites, replacing the old Marxist proletariat vs. bourgeoisie, what’s really going to happen over the next 50 years in America will be a racial struggle of all against all. Witness how blacks were ethnically cleansed from Compton by “Latinos” and brown vs. black racial conflict in LAUSD.

    • Let me guess. The solution involves something to do with having a lot of white babies, doesn’t it.

      • N__B

        having a lot of white babies

        With chianti?

        • MAJeff

          in milk.

          • N__B

            Veal? You monster.

        • cpinva

          and fava beans, lightly sautéed in olive oil.

        • DrDick

          And fava beans!

      • M Young

        There is no “solution”. But the funny thing is YT, for the most part, will be just fine. Just like SoCal YT will retreat into gated communities with armed guards and send their kids to private schools while the black vs. brown gangs duke it out in the street. Meanwhile, American society will become more and more stratified and unequal. The Brazilification of America is what’s ahead.

        • Okay, well, thanks for the heads up. I’m sure we all found it informative and interesting. You can go on with your day.

        • wjts

          When the Inevitable Race War finally rolls around, can I please be traded to another team? Spending endless days and nights holed up with you in the Fortress of Honkeytude while you and your fellow travelers read aloud from your lovingly-curated collections of clippings from the Detroit police blotter sounds unspeakably tedious.

          • M Young

            Let’s just cut out the middleman, then. I’ll buy you a one-way ticket to Haiti right now. No evil YT honkey crackers there! Must be a paradise.

            • You can go home now, your cage is clean.

            • JustinV

              As a white person, I find your understanding of race to be laughable. I hope you all retreat to you bunkers sooner rather than later, it’d be a nicer country without racist white people thinking that silly ideas are not obviously silly.

              • After they retreat to the bunkers, a few sacks of quickset cement down the air vents would seem to be in order.

            • wjts

              But I’m a blonde-haired blue-eyed Aryan superman! How will the White Race survive without my perfect genes?

            • Tristan

              Dude, there’s white people in Haiti

          • Fortress of Honkeytude

            I larfed.

        • On second thought, what about all those white folks who aren’t living in gated communities, which is most of them? All the folks in small towns and trailer parks and white-flight suburbs and farming communities, are they just left to the wind? Are y’all counting on racial solidarity alone to keep people fighting for a group that not only screwed them over on a regular basis before society, but completely cut them off when society fell. That’s a pretty big assumption. Also, what about well-off PoC who live in gated communities, send their kids to private school, etc. Will they be kicked out simply for being wrong color, or if they join with their economic equals will they be spared (if they’re “good ones”, of course)? Also also, what’s to keep all the gangs in the street (which includes all the abandoned white people who weren’t of the correct economic class, hey, back to Marxisim) from joining up and attacking the honkies on the hill? Also also also, who’s going to do all the actual work? Most of your gated community folks aren’t what one would call sons of the soil or of the blue-collar school, so who’s going to bring the food and keep the power on?

          This doesn’t seem well thought out, actually. The Galt’s Gulch guys would think this unsound.

        • Tristan

          the funny thing is YT, for the most part, will be just fine

          Then what the fuck are you guys always whining about

        • LeftWingFox

          God dammit.

          One more group screaming about taking their balls and going home, while refusing to leave the doorway.

          Go Galt already, motherfucker. How can we miss you when you never go away?

    • Brownian

      struggle of all against all

      Good. I hate when crackers think I’m on their side just because I’m the same colour.

      And you’ll never see me coming. Racists make for the easiest pickings.

      • Brownian

        I’m sorry everyone. That was an inappropriate comment.

        I blame my European heritage. 37 million Europeans killed by other Europeans over a four-year period. Can you even imagine being so motivated by ethnic hatred and violent tendency?

      • Patricia Kayden

        Actually you make a strong point — not all Whites are on the same side. M Young is toiling under the false premise that other Whites have his back. His brain must not be working too strongly since history has shown over and over again that White solidarity is a myth. Otherwise 50 million Whites wouldn’t have been killed by their own White people during WWII.

  • Sly

    Whites were often lynched, especially in power struggles in the West.

    By today’s conventions of white racial integrity, yes. By the standards of the mid to late 19th century? We’re largely talking about victims of European ethnicity that were then considered outside the boundaries of whiteness. Italians, particularly first generation immigrants, were probably the most prominent of these groups.

    • But in these 19th century western lynchings, this is mostly not eastern and southern European ethnic groups being lynched, but rather largely southerners who were fighting against the forces of order, i.e., Republicans and their territorial or state legislative lackeys and business cronies.

  • M Young

    In the coming race war that’s going to start any minute, YT will be safe in heavily guarded gated communities and the blacks and lations people will have regularly scheduled time outs so YT can buy groceries and go to the doctor and maybe catch a movie.

    • Patricia Kayden

      In the coming race war, your gated communities won’t save you. What makes you think that most Whites are on your side?

    • cpinva

      “In the coming race war that’s going to start any minute, YT will be safe in heavily guarded gated communities and the blacks and lations people will have regularly scheduled time outs so YT can buy groceries and go to the doctor and maybe catch a movie.”

      so this “coming race war” will be more like a long game of risk?

      • Grab Irkutsk as fast as you can. It’s the key to winning Risk, unlike in real life, where it’s the key to absolutely nothing.

        • Hogan

          unlike in real life,

          YOU TAKE THAT BACK.

          • Mrs__B is from Novosibirsk and she thinks Irkustsk is the middle of nowhere.

            • It’s strategically placed to control vast swaths of not much.

        • wjts

          Yes, have your precious Irkutsk. Ignore the armies massing in neighboring Kamchatka – better known as the gateway to Alaska! AH HA HA HA!

    • DrDick

      Let’s see how well your stupid “gated communities” hold up against helicopter gunships and the US Army when you try to start that stupidity of your wet dreams. Like the Randians, you inbred morons would not last 6 months in your dystopic dream world.

      • Jordan

        This one, at least, is a counter-troll.

    • LeftWingFox

      So, does the race war start before or after the Rapture?

      I need to keep my calendar of “Events That Will Never Happen” clear. Shall I pencil you in for the Eleventy-seventh of Smarch?

  • Thom

    Of course there have also been huge changes core time in who gets counted as white.

    • Very true. Back in the 1950s my father, of Lebanese ancestry, was not considered to be “white”.

      • DrDick

        Nor were Jews. Slavs and Southern Europeans were still transitioning.

        • Tristan

          If you go back a bit further, my family wasn’t ‘white’ by North American standards and we’re German. Disgusting Lithuanian Germans, presumably hopelessly diluted by contact with the various degenerate peoples within a day’s drive of Berlin.

    • Tyto

      In the early 20th century, the Irish weren’t considered white, either.

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