Home / General / There’s Always Beck University

There’s Always Beck University

Comments
/
/
/
695 Views

The folks at Whiskey Fire are talking about it what it takes to churn out conservative kids. I think everyone is making this much more difficult than it needs to be. If you want to raise to an entitled, bullying, whining, racist, misogynist homophobe, all you have to do is send them to the right school. You know, right schools. Why are all these wingnuts whining about librul colleges? Why aren’t they sending their awful kids to Oral Roberts? Or Liberty? Or Pepperdine? Hmmmmm?

Then again, you can always just Duggar out a litter or two and keep the pups hostage on your compound and teach ‘em good Randian Jesus stuff in the safe confines of your own bastion of wingnuttery.

Oh, and let’s not pretend that college conservatives are not a real thing. They are. It’s just that they’re always ENORMOUS ASSHOLES.

Also, yes, this is a real thing.

FacebookTwitterGoogle+Share
  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • Google+
  • Linkedin
  • Pinterest
  • Todd

    The Beck “University” website is a real treasure trove. A “class” entitled “Presidents You Should Hate”. Look out, Oxbridge!

    Those dark hoodies emblazoned with that prestigious seal are a bargain at $45, and perfect for standing your ground.

    • PSP

      Someone with a strong stomach could probably find some real nuggets of complete insanity in classes like “Destruction and Reconstruction” or the David Barton videos.

      I would have to be paid a LOT of money to even consider it.

      • Todd

        Yeah, but what with all the practice they have suppressing their gag reflexes, they barely notice the lecture-induced nausea.

      • I’m pretty sure someone (at TPM maybe?) signed up back when Beck University was a new thing and did exactly that.

    • RMC

      Love how much they hate President Wilson.

      Now, Wilson’s a pretty hateable fellow, if only for being a horrible racist, establishing Jim Crow in the District and removing African-Americans from Civil Service. And the whole Espionage Act thing.

      Hate him for THAT stuff. Not the Income Tax.

      • Not to mention a whole lot of foreign intervention from Mexico to Vladivostok much of it fueled by the same racist sentiments that motivated his less savory domestic policies.

        • RMC

          Yup. And the whole going to war to “save democracy” thing, which has never been abused by any other President. No sirree.

  • Pepperdine? As far as I know Pepperdine is a legitimate private college. I worked together with Alex Diener from Pepperdine on the Kennan Institute (Woodrow Wilson Center) project in the link below. He did not strike me as being a wing-nut.

    http://www.wilsoncenter.org/book/migration-homeland-and-belonging-eurasia

    • Oh no, I absolutely would not lump Pepperdine in with those wingnut schools. My understanding of the school is that it’s a perfectly respectable college that leans conservative.

      My point is there are conservative alternatives for concerned parents.

      • Bartleby

        Hillsdale College (in Michigan) fits nicely between Liberty and Pepperdine, I’d say. Lots of love for Dinesh D’Souza over there.

        • Emily

          If I had to choose between Pepperdine and any college in Michigan, I’d go for Pepperdine, just because it’s a way nicer climate, especially in winter.

        • rea

          Hillsdale was the one led into rightwingnut prominence by the aptly-named George Roche III, who was forced to resign in, of course, a sex scandel (19-year affair with his daughter-in-law comes out when she kills herself)

      • Helmut Monotreme

        These wingnut parents want their cake and to eat it too. There are real universities at which one can obtain an actual education that happen to be very conservative: BYU, George Mason, Baylor, Clemson, Grove City College, The University of Chicago economics department. What they want is for their state university and their local community college to be conservative brainwashing at with in-state tuition costs.

        • And jeebus, it’s not like every fucking Business School at every university in the country is a haven of evil liberal scum. I mean the College Conservatives and Glibertarians have to have somewhere to go for those that can’t make it in Engineering.

      • KmCO

        My impression of Pepperdine is that it’s a school for very conservative, Christian kids who also really like to party.

    • In the seventies we used to joke that well-heeled conservatives sent their kids to USC if these were too dim to make it into an ivy, and that if they were too dim for USC, there was always Pepperdine.

      • Burt Harbinson

        The joke was equally applicable in the late nineties… I had the misfortune of going to high school with a few conservative Bible thumping assholes who wouldn’t even consider attending any UC (undoubtedly because the student body was more diverse than their wonder bread churches).

      • StagParty Palin

        Things have changed at USC. Scholarship is waaay up. If you’re rich and stupid, you have to be really rich now. Pepperdine, although conservative, has no professor equivalent to John Woo*. And they play some mighty good volleyball, so all’s well.

        *Ken Starr left them for Baylor.

        • DrS

          John Yoo? He’s at UC-Berkeley though.
          or Hong Kong director John Yoo has a dark side and USC tie of which I am unaware. :)

          • LittlePig

            Only Robert Bruce Cheney holds a candle to the human depravity that is John Yoo.

            Berzerkerly should be profoundly ashamed.

        • Waite

          True, but the better numbers are being driven primarily at the top end. USC implemented an aggressive outreach strategy with very generous aid packages to Merit Scholars and other high achieving students. Its middle 50% scores have seen a small but steady rise over the last 15 years but the increase is shared by its peer institutions.
          (Legacies are still around 21% of each class as well)

  • Paul Foord

    And in Australia, there is evidence that the same result can be achieved at the high school level.

  • Granted Alex Diener is the only guy I know personally who works at Pepperdine so all the other faculty could be wing nuts. But, this piece on him on the Pepperdine website generally confirms my impression of working with him in 2004 and 2005.

    http://www.pepperdine.edu/pr/releases/2009/july/diener-kazakh-identity-book.htm

    • DrDick

      While the school may not be sufficiently conservative for your tastes, in the real world Pepperdine is generally considered to lean strongly conservative. That is not to put it in a league with Liberty or Oral Roberts, but well to the right of your average red state public university (which is not at all leftist).

      • But, she had it listed with Liberty and Oral Roberts in the OP. If she had listed it with Wheaton and Baylor I wouldn’t have thought anything odd about it. Surely, Pepperdine despite being more conservative than UCLA or Cal is not beyond the academic pale.

        • DrDick

          It is more conservative than most *red state* (conservative, Republican voting) public universities, not just those in California or other blue states. It is actually more conservative than the University of Oklahoma, where IB teaches.

          • Maybe, but this is really not the point. The point is whether its scholarship and teaching are decent or at the level of Liberty. It appears that despite claims that all conservatives and those surrounded by them are idiots one hears often here and elsewhere that there has been some good scholarship out of Pepperdine. I actually couldn’t tell you anything about Diener’s politics other than that he was not well disposed towards Soviet communism which I guess would make him an extreme right winger by some academic standards.

            • TribalistMeathead

              bspencer said the following five hours ago:

              Oh no, I absolutely would not lump Pepperdine in with those wingnut schools. My understanding of the school is that it’s a perfectly respectable college that leans conservative.

              You’ve spent the past five hours ignoring it, apparently so you have the opportunity to whine about left wing Jewish homosexual pornographers liberal academics driving you to Ghana, which is fine, because have I told you how superior Ghana is to the US, but I’m not one of those America-hating liberals.

              • KmCO

                Yeah, seriously. Otto, let it the frack go.

              • Need some help with those block quotations?

                • TribalistMeathead

                  We love you, Otto. Don’t ever change.

            • DrDick

              Actually that is exactly my point and bspencer’s point, which you keep ignoring.

              • TribalistMeathead

                Well, that’s no fun. If he doesn’t ignore it, he can’t keep whining about it.

    • Hogan

      Ed Herman taught at the Wharton School.

  • oldster

    Or in the words of the late lamented Editors,
    “Enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus.”

    (I think, incidentally, that that post made me laugh harder than anything in years. Some of Ali Brosch’s stuff may have beaten it now. How long ago was that classic Poor Man post? So long ago, that John Cole was still a Republican.)

  • N__B

    “Beck U.”

    “Beck U!”

    “No, BECK U!”

    /Scarface

  • LeeEsq

    Liberty University is the most ironic name for a university in the United States. If a young man wants to date a young woman, they call it courting in their material, the young man needs to contact the women’s father first. This doesn’t seem to give either side that much liberty. I try, I really try but I can’t understand what rightists mean by liberty and freedom.

    The really don’t have much to worry about, conservative parents that is, kids usually end up being pretty close to their parents in beliefs in most circumstances. You only need to pay some common attention to their upbringing.

    • TribalistMeathead

      They just allowed female students to start wearing pants on campus about 10 years ago.

      • Honestly I’m surprised they even let women attend.

        • My guess would be money is talking. I believe there are federal funds a private uni. can’t receive if it restricts enrollment of protected classes of people.

          Plus, good luck finding enough guys who would want to attend an all male university, especially if they’re raised to be super sensitive about questions regarding masculinity and attraction.

        • TribalistMeathead

          Having going to a significantly-less-restrictive-but-still-explicitly-Christian college, I would say that close to 100% of the Liberty female student body enrolled to find a husband.

          • Your nym really is an excellent warning label.

            • LittlePig

              OH SNAP!

          • Origami Isopod

            More accurately, their parents sent them there to find husbands. I’m not sure you appreciate the role enculturation plays here, or the social pressure of family and church, in hewing to that degree of strictness in gender roles.

            • TribalistMeathead

              If my post implied that I do not, I apologize. It was not my intent.

              • LittlePig

                Nah, I knew you was funnin’

            • Or because their parents sent them there to protect their virtue.

              Every year at my alma mater a certain number of women showed up because their parents mistakenly believed it is very conservative and their daughters would be safe there. (The belief it is still a single-sex college persists.)

              What the students themselves wanted wasn’t relevant. At least it got them away from control freak mom and dad. The fact we were the opposite of conservative was an added bonus in some cases.

              • TribalistMeathead

                Although it doesn’t always work well when someone flips the switch from “has zero control over their lives” to “has near-total control over their lives” (and when they discover that one beer, or even one toke, isn’t going to spell disaster after all). A college friend who was homeschooled had a number of peers who went off to college and ended up addicted to heroin.

        • KmCO

          I suspect that it’s to create something of a marriage mill.

      • md rackham

        The mere fact that they have female students puts the school to the left of Stalin.

    • Origami Isopod

      This doesn’t seem to give either side that much liberty.

      The young man still has the “liberty” to contact the young woman’s father. The young woman is certainly not encouraged to make any contact with a young man she might fancy, other than maybe fluttering her eyes at him.

      I’d hate to think of the plight of LGBT kids at one of these “schools.”

      • other than maybe fluttering her eyes at him.

        Well eye fluttering, followed by lots and lots of anal sex, virginity left safely intact.

    • KmCO

      Liberty from sin, Freedom from Satan!

  • Barry Freed

    The only degree they award is a BS.

    • LittlePig

      ‘ceptin for the wimmin, who get an MRS.

  • NeoCon parents want their kids to have a college degree to show their just as good as the damn atheist Lieberuls.

    But they don’t want the kids to learn anything that will allow them to compete in the job market, including the ability to interact with “others.” That way they’ll never make the parents feel inferior by succeeding and the kid will grow up with the same generalized resentment of the entire world.

  • Bilbo

    Maybe JenBob will be kind enough to reveal how he was parented.

    • All you need to know is that the walrus didn’t consent.

      • Origami Isopod

        John Nolte is JenBob’s father? So the astroturfing money is his allowance, I guess?

  • KmCO

    If you want to raise to an entitled, bullying, whining, racist, misogynist homophobe, all you have to do is send them to the right school. You know, right schools.

    This applies perfectly to pre-college education as well. From preschool through high school graduation, I attended a private, college-prep school. It…sucked. I got a good education, true, but you cannot imagine the whiny, spoiled, entitled, judgmental kids I grew up with (and the parents were often even worse). A good portion of my Facebook “friends” are these people, and anytime there’s a presidential election, my newsfeed gets pummeled with right-wing bilge.

    • Yikes. I read things like this and suddenly I’m thankful for my rather humble upbringing.

    • Lee Rudolph

      I attended a private, college-prep school. It…sucked. I got a good education, true, but you cannot imagine the whiny, spoiled, entitled, judgmental kids I grew up with

      Those who have difficulty imagining that may find their difficulties erased if they begin by imagining that it was … the best prep school in the nation!

      • Francis

        Groton? Exeter?

        [I had the fortune / misfortune to attend the first of those in the late 70s and it was quite an experience.]

  • Tom Servo

    I came to college thinking that a single abortion causes cancer and results in infertility (thanks, Catholic school! Specifically, “Morality” class. Ho boy).

    My father was and is a disciple of St. Ronnie (though to his credit he does not like Fox News. He only watches CNN and reads the NYT. Not perfect, but not breitbart or drudge at least). So I was a fairly strong Republican going into college. Against affirmative action, abortion, rah rah impeach earl Warren. And then…what happened? Was I indoctrinated? I like to think I was merely educated. My parents think otherwise (it was a very liberal hippy town).

    I still think it’s funny that I went from protesting at Planned parenthood for extra credit in “morality” to volunteering for planned parenthood.

    I actually don’t even think it was college that precipitated my shift in ideology. First of all, I had no ideology, I was a KID, I only had my parents and their conservative social circle, and my conservative home town, and no liberal blogs or Daily Show or anything.

    But mostly I think it started when one of my closest friends in high school came out to me. I remember being shocked, SHOCKED that he was gay, I was actually scared (shameful, I know) to the point of hurting his feelings. It was then that I realized that homophobia is necessarily stupid and assholish. And then the scales slowly fell from my eyes, at least I’m terms of social conservatism. Fiscal conservatism took a few more years-it’s easier to dress up some of those arguments as sane, whereas FUCK FAGs AND NEGROES is a little harder to sell to people who fancy themselves rational.

    • DrS

      And then the scales slowly fell from my eyes, at least I’m terms of social conservatism. Fiscal conservatism took a few more years-it’s easier to dress up some of those arguments as sane, whereas FUCK FAGs AND NEGROES is a little harder to sell to people who fancy themselves rational.

      I think it’s in this process where we end up with people who identify as libertarian or “socially liberal, economically conservative”.

  • Anonymous

    I’m convinced it’s the assholishness that makes them conservatives, not the other way around. College Republicans seem to relish saying things that piss people off (I dated one – a lovely person, but prone to just jaw droppingly insensitive statements, to the point where you suspect a personality disorder or Tourette’s). Although when you call them on it, they invariably back down, which implies they’re not really standing on principle, just a desire to be naughty and rile people.

    • efgoldman

      Although when you call them on it, they invariably back down, which implies they’re not really standing on principle, just a desire to be naughty and rile people.

      Which means they never got beyond middle school, emotionally.

    • STH

      Yeah, I know the type you’re talking about here–they also tend to be the lovers of Ayn Rand.

      That’s not all of them, though. I attend a community college in eastern WA state and most of the daytime students are 18-20-year-olds from rural backgrounds who are conservative, largely because they don’t know any better, I think. I suspect their parents sit and watch Fox News every night because these kids come to school every day and say things in class about creeping socialism, how the government is going to take their guns away any minute, and the need to impeach Obama because of the stupid “you can keep your shitty insurance” thing. They truly believe all this, though most aren’t all that incensed about it, since they’re actually more concerned about partying than anything else.

      But the important issue is that there’s a segment of the population that thinks it’s informed–hey, they watch the news every night!–and has no earthly idea that everything they “know” about politics is wrong. As far as they’re concerned, they’re being responsible citizens and keeping up on current events, but they never hear a contrary opinion, and if they do, they just discount it because it goes against the huge weight of what they, and everybody they know, KNOWS to be true.

  • herr doktor bimler
  • caesaigh

    gawdammit, I stupidly clicked (clikkked?) on all of the links.

    Thanks for the prickroll

    • “prickroll” Ha!

      • Sirius Lunacy

        Since the subject of prickrolls has come up and I know you’re a fan of Spinal Tap, I thought I’d just point out that having an armadillo in your trousers is not as impressive as it once was.

It is main inner container footer text