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Boy, I sure would hate to be Amanda Marcotte right now!

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Because she just got burned in a totally effective manner by an actor! From a television show!

The problem with this logic extends beyond the fact that conservatives devote Russian steppes of bandwidth to discrediting the idea that actors ought to participate in the public sphere. They start highly effective Twitter-campaigns to boycott actors and employers who make overtly political statements because they believe, deep in their ideological core, that people involved in the production of televisual entertainment have nothing to add to the national conversation. We’re talking deep personal convictions here. They’d never enthusiastically embrace the statement of a character actor just because who am I kidding of course they would. They don’t hate Hollywood — they hate that the majority of it thinks their values are antediluvian. And when someone from Hollywood agrees with them?

They just can’t handle it.

Every conservative celebrity-of-the-month becomes the John-Paul-George-and-Ringo of Twitter for awhile. (Adam Baldwin’s either sitting alone crying on the abandoned set of Chuck or mercilessly pounding his Twitter trying to make Twitchy love him again.) But the thing about Twitter-campaigns and its meth-dependent scribe is that it all amounts to chatter amongst like-minded folks. Conservatives on Twitter form tiny circles of self-congratulation whose sole purpose is being sky-hooked into illusory importance by a service, Twitchy, that only exists to reinforce that delusion. No fiendish liberal could come up with a plan that mollifies conservative egos with the subtlety of Twitchy. Once they scale Malkin’s xerostomic mount they feel like they’ve made it — who cares if their throats are too parched to say anything else? It’s not like they said much of value before.

Take Nick Searcy’s declaration above. He will never be more beloved by bigots than he is right now. This is the summit for him. All that was required of him to reach it was a profoundly impotent public statement. No longer will Amanda be able to turn on her television on Tuesday nights and watch Justified because … because … because Nick Searcy said so. You’d think someone who’s portrayed as many officers of the law as Searcy has would understand the concept of enforceability, but apparently he’s more concerned with being Conservative Internet Hero Du Jour than actually saying something that might make sense. But at least he attacked Amanda in a way that might hurt her feelings!

Because I’m sure his empty threat to take away toys he doesn’t own via means he can’t control must really sting.

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  • SEK

    I mean, I know I can’t stop crying every time I read a group of nominal adults make fun of me for having a beard, hair, books or conversations. I suppose if you can’t grow the first, lost all the second, never bother with the third and can’t find a partner for the fourth, those would seem like devastating insults …

    • Djur

      I like the suggestion that you’d go to the trouble of setting up bookshelves with books in your home just to provide a backdrop for a podcast. What, does he think you have a budget or something? Did he watch the video?

      • SEK

        Hey, I paid $43 for that webcam! The books, though, came included with my apartment, after I brought all the boxes containing them inside, unpacked them, and put them in some modicum of order.

        • Djur

          Boxes labeled “booksbythefoot.com”, right?!

          • SEK

            The funny thing is, one of the reasons I own so many books is because I worked at a used book store in college and did appraisals and estate sales … which also means that I met with many interior decorators who needed “coordinated books” for the “libraries” of the lawyers and politicians who needed to look learned. So I actually know from bookshelf aesthetics and, if forced to grade myself, I can’t help but say that I’ve done a terrible job putting together my shelves. I mean, Ikea? Really? And doing a double-backed thing, where I have books on both sides? Or triple-stacking them in that other shelf? I look like the least impressive person who’s trying to look impressive with his books I’ve ever come across.

            Frankly, I’m ashamed to be me.

        • Hogan

          A stout, middle-aged man, with enormous owl-eyed spectacles, was sitting somewhat drunk on the edge of a great table, staring with unsteady concentration at the shelves of books. As we entered he wheeled excitedly around and examined Jordan from head to foot.

          “What do you think?” he demanded impetuously.

          “About what?’

          He waved his hand toward the book-shelves.

          “About that. As a matter of fact you needn’t bother to ascertain. I ascertained. They’re real.

          “The books?”

          He nodded.

          “Absolutely real – have pages and everything. I thought they’d be a nice durable cardboard. Matter of face, they’re absolutely real. Pages and – Here! Lemme show you.”

          Taking our scepticism for granted, he rushed to the book-cases and returned with Volume One of the Stoddard Lectures.

          “See!” he cried triumphantly. “It’s a bona-fide piece of printed matter. It fooled me. This fella’s a regular Belasco. It’s a triumph. What thoroughness! What realism! Knew when to stop, too – didn’t cut the pages. But what do you want? What do you expect?”

          • Halloween Jack

            It’s a great bit, even if it’s been several decades (at least) since the vast majority of readers would understand the significance of “didn’t cut the pages” without helpful explanation.

    • merl

      I’ve never been able to grow a beard, I’m going bald and no one wants to talk to me, but at least I can read!!!1 !!

      • SEK

        I’ll talk to you, merl. Just promise me you’ll pay for the orthodontics I apparently need (despite having more than adequately straight teeth because I’ve already had orthodontics).

    • cpinva

      this would concern me more, if i were you:

      “Honestly. I nearly came.”

      no doubt freud would have some insightful comment on that, if he weren’t still dead.

      • SEK

        I’m choosing to ignore those words ever left his brain, much less reached his fingers.

        • commie atheist

          The man’s got serious issues.

          • Hogan

            Are you kidding? That man’s got entire bound volumes.

            • firefall

              win

  • Robert Farley

    Burn.

  • Scott P.

    I seem to remember Republicans giving an aging actor a prime time speaking slot at their convention so that he could argue with an empty chair.

    • Rob

      Nope. They made him President

      • mds

        I’m pretty sure Reagan argued with empty chairs, too. Just not on national televison.

        • Jo

          Who won?

          • satan augustine

            Based on the merits of the argument, the chair of course. But then Reagan beat that chair into the furniture equivalent of a bloody pulp.

          • Bill Murray

            the people who were watching national television and didn’t have to see a doddering old man hector a chair

  • LeeEsq

    Can somebody explain to me all the hatred directed towards Amanda Marcotte? Her opinions are pretty mainstream feminist and liberal opinions from my perspective. By the way people react to her, you’d think that she is the most radical of radicals.

    • SEK

      These are the same people who call Obama a socialist, if that helps you understand why they believe Amanda’s calling for mandatory male castration.

    • Thlayli

      The troll colony she’s generated at Slate is something to behold. She could write a piece that reads, in its entirety: “I think puppies are cute.” and that would get 500 comments calling her “incoherent” and “rage-filled” and “man-hating” and “DUKE LACROSSE! DUKE LACROSSE!“.

      • merl

        And dyke if they were able to post that at Slate.

      • Linnaeus

        The troll situation also got worse when Pandagon moved to Raw Story.

        • firefall

          many things deteriorated with that move, including readability

    • Greg

      She is literally everything they hate. She’s cosmopolitan, well-educated, atheist, sexually active, unmarried, childless, feminist, and opinionated.

      • SamInMpls

        AND she’s from Texas which makes her a traitor to the lost cause or something.

        • cpinva

          “AND she’s from Texas which makes her a traitor to the lost cause or something.”

          let me clue you in on something: neither texas or florida, are considered part of the “old south”, by the rest of the states of the confederacy. they only are in their minds. i’ve yet, in my life thus far, to have a conversation, regarding the confederacy, where texas or florida comes up as a natural part of that conversation. they just don’t.

          yes, i am aware they both seceded, and both had soldiers fighting (for both north & south), but both were so far away from the bulk of the action, they were, for the most part, non-entities. texas is considered more part of the “wild west”, and florida, well, florida is florida, more spanish than english. hey, i didn’t say it necessarily made sense, just that it is.

          i am speaking of your average, non-historian type person here, not a professional academic, who would clearly have a different take on the matter.

          • DrDick

            Proving once again just how stupid and ignorant you have to be to be conservative.

          • rea

            John Bell Hood wept . . .

          • Halloween Jack

            That attitude highlights one of the things about the South that I didn’t understand until I lived there for a while: the reason why it wasn’t a confederacy instead of a union was that they didn’t really have much more use for each other than they did for the Yankees.

      • David Hunt

        I was going to point out that she’s not gay so she missed one item on their checklist, but she supports gay-rights so that’s almost as bad. Perhaps worse as that would make her a gender-traitor or whatever they called it in the Handmaid’s Tale.

        • SEK

          Because her attackers have read The Handmaid’s Tale? I think you’re fine.

          • cpinva

            Because her attackers have read The Handmaid’s Tale?

            as many as have read The Wealth of Nations. my guess would be, oh, about zero.

          • Bill Murray

            I think the Cliff Notes version of the way women are treated in The Handmaids Tale might have reached a couple of them. Or perhaps Atwood just used the way these type people think

          • Timb

            As as been said here before, sure they have, but they thought it was a how-to book

      • Uncle Ebeneezer

        This. Plus she’s fearless and intelligent.

        • STH

          She comes across as strong and confident in her writing, and I wonder if that makes a certain contingent of readers want to put her in her place.

          • satan augustine

            Good point! Men especially. Dumb, ignorant and proud of it men even more especially.

          • cpinva

            “She comes across as strong and confident in her writing, and I wonder if that makes a certain contingent of readers want to put her in her place.”

            this. she does seem to attract a loudly defensive class of troll. on the other hand, she does (or did) great food porn!

      • LeeEsq

        Greg, there a lot of people like this on the left blogosphere. Marcotte seems to inspire something visceral that they don’t.

        • firefall

          She does a great line in abrasive rhetoric and putting the most extreme formulations on the words of her enemies, to the point where I was often in agreement with her positions but uneasy about the way she’d put it.

    • Sly

      When you’re a reactionary douchebag, everyone else is a radical.

      • lush

        She made the flying monkeys’ list during the holy jizz/Edwards campaign and now they just flitter around waiting for the attack orders.

        Probably the worst valid thing you could write about AM was that a few of her posts/arguments were a bit sloppy back in the day. But weren’t we all?

    • Josh G.

      “Can somebody explain to me all the hatred directed towards Amanda Marcotte? Her opinions are pretty mainstream feminist and liberal opinions from my perspective.”

      Not really. They may look “mainstream feminist” if you’re comparing to, say, Shakesville and Feministing, but Marcotte is writing for Slate. By the standards of mainstream media (and mainstream America), Marcotte is a radical. She also doesn’t have any sense of diplomacy whatsoever and doesn’t mince words – nothing necessarily wrong with that, but when you do this, you don’t really get to complain when your opponents respond in kind.

      An example of why people don’t like Amanda Marcotte can be found in this article, where she baselessly accuses a high school student of “contributing to the overall culture of male entitlement” because he made a silly YouTube video asking out Kate Upton. Never mind that all celebrities, male and female, get these kind of propositions all the time, or that for a nationally prominent writer to level these kind of accusations at a high school student borders on bullying.

      • commie atheist

        Um, no. She was mainly referring to the people going “oh, how sweet” and urging Upton to go along with the kid as the ones deserving of scorn.

        By joining in the collective pressure on Upton to give her attention—even just the attention of a polite refusal to a request that is, in reality, too silly to warrant acknowledgement—to a young man just because he wants it, we’re contributing to the overall culture of male entitlement.

        • STH

          Yeah, she was absolutely right about that.

          And, no, she doesn’t mince words. But the kind of nasty trolling she gets–especially on Twitter–doesn’t have a thing to do with “responding in kind.”

          • Josh G.

            Well, I guess that explains it – I don’t read Twitter. I was judging the response by Slate comments, some of which are trolls, but most of which are reasonable responses to the weak points in Marcotte’s writings.

        • Thanks for that! I really disliked how mischaracterzied that post was, pretty much solely by people who, because they don’t have real arguments against me, have to make them up. The kid was being a kid. The adults who coo over it, however, are the problem.

          • DrDick

            I comment over at your place a bit and agree that your views are not particularly radical. I have yet to see any of the trolls ever actually engage your ideas or arguments, however. For whatever insane reason, you have become a conservative icon of everything they hate about uppity wimmens. You should wear it with pride.

            • chris

              I don’t think it’s that insane, actually. They don’t believe that a feminist woman can be as smart, well-grounded and popular as Amanda actually is. Therefore, they have to “prove” that she really isn’t those things, or adjust their worldview. And adjusting your worldview is hard.

              “I reject your reality and substitute my own” was a joke for Adam Savage, but it’s a way of life for conservatives.

              …Okay, maybe that’s pretty insane after all. But there’s method in it.

      • spencer

        She also doesn’t have any sense of diplomacy whatsoever and doesn’t mince words

        I’ve always assumed that this is a natural byproduct of growing up liberal, intelligent and female in rural Texas.

        • DrDick

          I am pretty sure it is a required survival skill there (I grew up liberal and intelligent in mostly rural Oklahoma in the 50s & 60s).

      • djillionsmix

        “in kind.”

        Fucking lol.

        Incidentally, Josh G. is your answer. People like him absolutely lose their shit when someone advocates for a point of view by advocating for it, rather than advocating for that point of view by 1. not advocating for it 2. telling Josh G how great he is.

        • delurking

          Especially if that someone is a woman. Any woman who does not open their argument by telling Josh G. (and his ilk) about fifty times that they just love him and all mens, plus they’re married to a wonderful, wonderful man themselves, plus they love their daddy, plus they love sucking cock, plus they just love cock in general, plus Josh G. is totally, totally right about whatever he has ever said ever whenever he ever spoke about anything, well, that woman is a horrible, irrational shrew, that’ all. And probably a feminazi.

          • delurking

            Speaking as a feminist who does this dance in Arkansas all the time, it gets wearisome eventually.

      • LeeEsq

        Slate isn’t really that radical of site. Its solidly upper-middle class liberal in its policy choices. If you read about their lifestyle articles than you’ll see this.

    • chris y

      I agree that her views are pretty mainstream, but I think what does these people’s heads in is that not merely does she write tolerably well, but she’s also FUNNY, when she wants to be. That seriously does not compute.

    • MosesZD

      It has to do with some of the stupid ass shit she says. Like when she lead the Internet Lynch mob against the Duke LaCrosse players. It’s long, tawdry story that I really don’t feel like going into the sordid details.

      But from that episode, I started watching her… And started to look more deeply at what she wrote. And I found her to be a liar blinded by ideology who has no compunction on making up facts and destroying people for page-views.

      I have found her to be as dishonest on the left as Malkin, Coulter, etc. are on the right. And while some people may get ‘offended’ at the characterization. She is what she is — a lying muckraker and Internet troll who will never let facts get in the way of being an asshole.

      • JohnM

        Please name one instance where she actually lied. The Duke Lacrosse mess doesn’t qualify because she believed the accuser who was the real liar.

        • NBarnes

          I, too, am interested in hearing more about the times Marcotte has lied.

          Double plus points for comparisons of volume between Marcotte and Coulter.

        • firefall

          I agree … I cant recall anywhere where she lied, or tried to mislead readers. Mistakes, sure, but who doesn’t make those?

          • You actually make it seem so easy with your presentation but I find this matter to be really something which I think
            I would never understand. It seems too complicated and extremely
            broad for me. I’m looking forward for your next post, I will try to get the hang of it!

  • JREinATL

    It’s always hilarious how Republicans rail against “Hollywood” but then swoon for any B-list celebrity who’ll show up at the RNC — Bo Derick, Ron Silver, Steven Baldwin, Ronald Reagan, etc.

    • JREinATL

      Oh, and who is this Nick Seachy guy anyway? Sounds like the GOP is going below B-list now.

      • commie atheist

        All that’s missing in that photo of him above is the hand-straight-out salute.

        • Mr Black

          Ron Silver died after Obama took office, if you know what I mean.

          • Halloween Jack

            Another one for the death list, amirite?

        • All that’s missing in that photo of him above is the hand-straight-out salute.

          That would call for some visual rhetoric, and no mistake.

          Cheers!
          JzB

      • cpinva

        “Oh, and who is this Nick Seachy guy anyway?”

        that was the first question that came to my mind. that, and why should i, or ms. marcotte, or anyone really, care what he thinks, other than in the “everyone has a right to their opinion” kind of way? i think i’ve seen the show a couple of times, seemed ok, but he doesn’t ring a bell at all.

        • Cody

          I really like his character on Justified and he seems to play some good supporting roles (usually as basically the same character).

          Or maybe I just like Justified so much I assume he’s good. Did I mention I like Justified?

          It’s probably related to growing up in a very similar area and the show makes me laugh a lot at their depictions.

  • Jonas

    Because of Nick Searcy I will never watch Justified again. Or before.

    • SEK

      The series creator is Graham Yost, who’s close friends and occasional collaborator with that Muslim-loving socialist extremist Tom Hanks. Also, he’s a Canadian. Don’t judge a show by its asshole. (You wouldn’t like to be judged by yours either.)

      • CaptBackslap

        I was going to leave a comment like, “wait, is that the one with the biker gang?”, since I mentally lump Justified and Sons of Anarchy in together as “shows on FX that I’ve never seen and look like they have lotsa shooting.” But then I saw that the dude who created Boomtown is behind it, and now I kinda want to watch it, because that show was the truth.

        • Timb

          You should watch it on amazon prime for the old episodes and FX for the current ones

          • JohnM

            You can also use Netflix. Or see if your local library has the DVDs. In any event, watch it. If you couldn’t guess, it’s one of my all-time favorite shows.

        • I’m almost done with S1 of Justified. It’s corny, and I wouldn’t put in the same class as first-rate shows or even not-quites like Boardwalk Empire, but I like it. Sons of Anarchy, though, I gave up on four episodes in. Cheeseball trash.

          • Col Bat Guano

            S2 is vastly better than S1, so I’d recommend continuing.

      • Don’t judge a show by its asshole. (You wouldn’t like to be judged by yours either.)

        Man – you are on FIRE today.

      • Jon H

        And it provided the source material for this meme.

        • Joey Maloney

          Note, however, that Patton Oswalt’s character turned out to be a total badass.

        • jibeaux

          Also too, if you watch Justified, you understand when I say we think we’re a nation of Raylan Givenses, but we’re more of a nation of Dewey Crowes.

          • timb

            Onanism is our national pastime

      • DrDick

        Always remember that God loves assholes. that is why he made so many of them.

        • Mr Black

          As remind myself, both now and when I was a teenager growing up with people and their descendants who came from OK:

          You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons

          • DrDick

            I will simply quote my fellow Okie, Will Rogers, here:
            “When the Okies left Oklahoma and moved to California, they raised the average intelligence level in both states.”

      • Timb

        THIS.

        Justified is one of the top 5 shows on TV now. If you aren’t watching it, then you’re missing out

      • Seeing footage of an excited Graham Yost on the set of Hard Rain watching as actors said his miserable lines was really sad.

        • SamR

          Yost had previously done Speed, and during an interview talked about how Joss Whedon had helped refine the script, in an uncredited but apparently major way.

          Then he mentioned he decided not to do that for Hard Rain, and concluded, “So maybe those are examples of why I think collaboration is a very good thing.”

          • Yes, it fits my preconceived notion of why Justified might have started silly and gotten better.

    • Greg

      Justified is an excellent show that he’s barely in.

      • Chuchundra

        That’s not really fair. Searcy plays a supporting character, but the show would be a lot weaker without Art Mullen.

        • Timb

          Amen. Just because the dude is an ass, doesn’t mean he can’t deliver a line

        • Greg

          Not saying he’s not good, but outside of Raylan, the show basically ignores the marshal’s office in favor of the criminals.

    • trollhattan

      “Justified” is a freaking good show but now I’ll never be able to watch Searcy’s character in the same light, damn him [shakes fist}. But, but, but…does he have Al’Qaeda-like superpowers that enable him to fly around the various tubes and wires and airwaves and PERSONALLY BLOCK AMANDA MARCOTTE FROM WATCHING ALL “Justified” EPISODES?

      Because that would rule.

      • trollhattan

        Also, too, wait a minute—I can’t watch “Justified” this coming Tuesday, either. Hmmm.

      • djw

        now I’ll never be able to watch Searcy’s character in the same light, damn him [shakes fist}.

        I really don’t get this. He’s a good character actor, excellent in the role. Lots of people are wingnuts, assholes, or both; some of them will invariably play roles in the production of things I enjoy. Knowing Adam Baldwin’s a wingnut never got in my way of enjoying Firefly or Chuck.

        • commie atheist

          Heck, I still watch reruns of “Frasier.”

        • Magatha

          Yes. Adam Baldwin was my test. I still love Firefly, I still love to hate Jayne, and I still want one of those very cunning caps like Jayne’s mom sent him.

        • wengler

          On his twitter he is a psychotic mad men. Best just to ignore the twitter.

          • JohnM

            Words to live by.

        • Halloween Jack

          Knowing Adam Baldwin’s a wingnut never got in my way of enjoying Firefly or Chuck.

          Yep. Especially in Firefly, he plays Jayne with a sense of the character’s innate ridiculosity that he seems to be utterly bereft of in real life.

      • wengler

        Searcy’s character is good within the context of the show, but I wonder how different it is from his actual personality.

    • Random

      I was watching the first episode and wasn’t really impressed and then….

      Then the dude from Hitman stood square-on with some random criminal pointing a loaded shotgun directly at him from a distance of a few feet and…confidently proceeded to dispatch him solely by virtue of being more masculine.

      Or that’s how I remember it. Maybe the series gets better but that scene was suuuuuch bullshit I didn’t bother going further. Does it get less stupid and unrealistic?

      • SEK

        It’s actually quite good, maybe even better, at depicting the scourge of meth in modern America, the problem with religion and recidivism … basically, it’s better than any summary of it lets on. I highly recommended it, Searcy and all. As for the first few episodes, well, you have to establish the myth of the American lawman before you can start to take it apart.

        • Random

          As for the first few episodes, well, you have to establish the myth of the American lawman before you can start to take it apart.

          I did not see this before I posted my furious rant about the turn-it-up-to-11 dumbness of that one scene. Okay I trust your judgement and will give it another try.

        • Chuchundra

          Yeah…about halfway through the first season I was still thinking Justifed was going to be a decent but not particular inspiring procedural. I was very very pleased to be wrong.

          • spencer

            That was exactly when I stopped watching it. Guess I should try it again.

        • wengler

          Walton Goggins really took over the show and became one of television’s best antagonists ever.

          Also the novelty of western meets hillbilly mafia helps it to break new and interesting ground.

      • Random

        Just rewatched it and it’s even dumber than I remembered.

        The dude from Hitman fucking calmly walks up and takes the fucking loaded fucking shotgun away from the fucking tweaker who is fucking tweaking and pointing a fucking loaded fucking shotgun right fucking at him while fucking tweaking.

        The show must get a lot less-stupid going forward from there, simply because it’s not possible to be dumber than that.

        • If the dude were Syrio Forel, I’d believe it.

        • SEK

          If that’s what you need to think to encourage yourself to continue watching it, then go ahead. All I’ll say is you’ll thank yourself for doing so. I’m really not big on proselytizing — mostly because as a Jew, I’m not supposed to — so I won’t say anything other than there’s a reason both Amanda and I are still watching it, along with Alyssa Rosenberg, the folks at the AV Club, etc. And it’s not because Timothy Olyphant is a badass, I promise. (I will give you this one hint: its name is Walton Goggins, and he’s but one among many.)

          • Random

            Definitely going to give it a second try on your say-so and that of the others here. Thanks for the tip.

          • Random

            Freaking weird man…I am halfway through Season I of ‘The Shield’ (which I haven’t seen before and is available for free with commercial interruptions on crackle.com) and Goggins was one of my favorite characters thus far.

            • Mike Schilling

              Goggins is one of the best tings about The Shield. But all the main characters are good, with a few minor exceptions, and they come along much later, after you’re hooked.

        • That bolded passage is especially interesting to read when one repeatedly mistakes “tweaking” for “tweeting”.

          • cpinva

            “That bolded passage is especially interesting to read when one repeatedly mistakes “tweaking” for “tweeting”.”

            trying to envisage a meth head “tweeting”, with a shotgun in one hand. nope, just can’t do it.

            • Pseudonym

              Who do you think runs Twitchy anyways?

          • Random

            “Pointn shotgun @ Hitman — YOLO”

        • avoidswork

          I don’t know what your standard for TV is, but I consider “Justified” a religion a la FCBarcelona, The Wire, (most of) BSG, etc.

          1/2 way into S1 is where it picks up and S2 is amazing.

          It sucks you into Harlan County, KY, gives you fantastic characters in a rich palette and despite Nick Searcy in Real Life, Art Mullen is one amazing character.

          To each his own, but it is a sincere recommendation.

    • Jonas

      Okay, I have heard from many people that it’s a good show, but it was just that I didn’t know who the ‘celebrity’ was who was blocking Amanda from watching the show on twitter(?).

      So I looked up Nick Searcy and found his finest role.

      You can thank me later.

      • I saw it, but I don’t believe it.

        I makes the exact opposite of sense.

        A truly awesome spectacle.

      • Like the product being sold in that ad, he obviously doesn’t take the game very seriously. That’s maybe a point in his favor, or maybe against.

        • Joey Maloney

          I’ll give him this – after reading this I headed over to Twitter to tease him for being a political dufus and we had a perfectly polite (by Twitter standards) and funny (by Twitter standards) exchange. No flying spittle, blockings, multiple flying monkey-friendly hastags, or any of that. So the guy (or at least his publicist) has a sense of proportion.

      • Warren Terra

        Oh, dear god. Via that, you can get to his Youtube uploads. He apparently thinks he’s got this self-deprecating humor thing down pat. Now with snarky asides against people he doesn’t like!

      • commie atheist

        I’m so glad that one has the creepy Herman Cain slo-mo smile at the end, because that is the proverbial cherry on the proverbial top.

        • cheap wino

          I’ve always loved that. I’m sure he stole it from Bud Cort.

      • Mike Schilling

        That was awesome. More Theatre of the Absurd in campaign ads! (But less in presidential administrations.)

      • montag2

        Ah, well, now we know he’s a dyed-in-the-wool flake. Fluffing Herman Cain? The supposed mathematician who can only count to nine?

        I’d love to say something snarky about this, but, I’m still trying to get over being appalled. The people who were all in for Herman were grade-A, USDA prime morons. Even other Republicans thought so, and that’s going some.

        If Louie Gohmert ever runs for President, I know Searcy is going to fall in love.

    • Warren Terra

      It’s quite a good show, with an interesting perspective on family, life, and crime in the forgotten poor parts of rural America (think Winter’s Bone, with more cops).

      That said, even by the standards of a modern American cop show, it has utter contempt for the notions of due process, civil rights, Miranda, etcetera. The hero is (very nearly) Superman, with a badge and no need for a conscience.

      • Rhino

        So aside from the superman part, basically a documentary.

      • Medrawt

        I disagree in that I think the show, more than most, shows the supporting characters being critical of Raylan in totally justifiable (ugh) ways. Nick Searcy’s character, who the audience is supposed to love (and I do, despite this bullshit), is endlessly upset with Raylan and just suspended him at the end of the just-finished season. He also leveled Raylan and Raylan’s implied nostalgia for the Wild West days when he said he was a “good lawman but a lousy Marshall,” and we see that Raylan is hurt by that.

        We also see that Rachel and Tim, his coworkers, are amused by him but also endlessly annoyed by him both because he’s kind of an asshole and because he’s kind of a loose cannon.

        We also know that Raylan himself is troubled by his propensity to violence, and in fact the show (at Olyphant’s suggestion) ramped the number of times Raylan fires his weapon way down around the midway point of the first season. Several times, including most recently in the season finale, he has been confronted by characters accusing him of manipulating and bullying criminals into a corner where they’re more likely to pull their weapon so he has a justification to fire, and it’s clear through Olyphant’s acting that the accusation unsettles him (because it’s totally true).

        MILD SEASON FOUR SPOILERS INCOMING

        Raylan is shown as drawing a bright distinction between criminals and cops, and he in particular hurls this in Shelby’s face to belittle and dismiss him, but unlike Raylan we have the benefit of seeing Shelby at work and we know that Raylan’s opinion of him is incorrect and unfair; Shelby is a criminal redeemed, and Raylan (because of baggage from his father) wants to think that’s impossible. Multiple characters through the season accuse Raylan of being no better than a criminal – the jailed ex-Sherriff from Season One says he uses the badge as an excuse to “do shit you were already going to do”.

        And the season concludes with Raylan, confronted with a situation where the criminal won’t pull a gun when he wants him to, instead orchestrating a scenario where his desire to kill is carried out and he gets to stay clean of it. And part of what’s on Olyphant’s face as he walks away, I believe, is self loathing; since Tommy Bucks in the pilot, I think this is the first time he’s caused someone’s death that wasn’t in immediate defense of himself or another (though he has threatened that on one or two occasions).

        SPOILERS CONCLUDED

        I think the show wants us to think that Raylan really is kind of a lousy Marshall, with a moral code that is in some ways admirable and in others a terrible fit for the times, but he’s also not Vic Mackey. He’s not a monster. And the show also wants us to love him, because he’s brave and skilled and very smart and often quite funny. But I think the show is clear that Raylan isn’t an admirable model, that his misconduct comes from serious internal troubles that make him dangerous in the way you never want an LEO to be dangerous. His rage and his willingness to enter violent situations make him a compelling character, but they’re not shown as admirable qualities.

        The show also gets some benefit re: due process from the characters being Marshalls. Raylan gets into a lot of bullshit that isn’t Marshall business, but his job isn’t to conduct criminal investigations and build a case that someone is guilty, his job is (most often on the show) to find fugitives. His misconduct is still misconduct, but it’s not the kind of misconduct that, as on cop shows, would get cases thrown out of court.

        • Joey Maloney

          SPOILERS for season 4 finale CONTINUED

          What happened was, two aspects of Raylan’s moral code were in irreconcilable conflict with each other: You don’t kill someone who hasn’t “called it”, but you have to protect your family (although I liked the way his ex took an active part in those proceedings) and there was absolutely no way he could do both.

          I think that conflict is what we see on Olyphant’s face at the end of the scene at the airstrip.

        • JohnM

          Related to Raylan’s rage: My wife and I finished watching all 3 seasons of Deadwood for the 1st time last week. One of our running commentaries was how Seth Bullock (Olyphant’s character) was an even more rage-filled Raylan Givens. There were moments when I half expected Bullock to stroke out and die from apoplexy.

      • Uncle Ebeneezer

        Is it better than Southland? (which I think is pretty good.) Just curious. Never even heard of it before this thread but y’all are piqueing my interest.

        • AemJeff

          Hey Eb! I can’t compare it to Southland, because I haven’t seen the latter, but I have to say I think it one of the best prime-time dramas I’ve seen. Searcy’s personal crazy aside, it’s worth a look.

          • I watch them both and love them both.
            Justified is often quite a comedy, and Southland is not — though Justified has its dark episodes and dark side, while Southland has its humour.
            Both try to portray what people have to do to get by and to get along and to get out of trouble.
            Boyd Crowder (Walton Groggins) is the heart of Justified, as Cooper is the heart of Southland, but neither of them is a hero, far from it, but they both yearn to be more than maybe they ever can be.

            • AemJeff

              Thanks, Gotta search now and see if Southland is anywhere on Amazon Prime. I’ll quibble a little and say that I think that at the heart of the show is the apparent symmetry (and ambiguity) apparent between Boyd and Raylan; but if Goggins wasn’t as good as he is, the show wouldn’t be a tenth as worth watching.

              • AemJeff

                What, no edit function here? Apparently not, apparently.

      • sparks

        Oh. Cop show. Don’t watch ’em anymore, full stop.

        • Timb

          Your contribution was awesome

      • Timb

        Uh, not to quibble, but he has a pretty big conscience. Either that or we are watching different shows

        • Warren Terra

          He regrets actually killing people, sometimes histrionically, and regrets being a bad husband. But as a lawman, he’s basically self-righteous scum, empowered by God and his badge to do whatever the hell he wants. About that, he’s got no conscience at all.

          • timb

            In season 1, he seems pretty distraught that his misconduct led to Boyd getting out of prison early, which — he believes — caused the unnecessary deaths of at least 3 men (when it actually only 1)

            That seemed like his conscience

    • wengler

      That’s kind of a dumb reason. It’s a pretty good show, and this guy plays a secondary role.

    • Incontinentia Buttocks

      Because of Nick Searcy I will never watch Justified again. Or before.

      I hope few people think this way about any tv show. I mean, basing one’s viewing choices on the beliefs or even behaviors of the actors off-screen seems to me a step beyond even aesthetic Stalinism.

      A counterexample: I’m a huge Mad Men fan. And one of my favorite characters on Mad Men is Peggy, who is played wonderfully by Elisabeth Moss. Moss is, as most folks who follow the show probably know, a Scientologist, a ridiculous worldview promoted by a truly evil institution. But I don’t think that ought to get in the way of my enjoyment of Peggy or of Moss’s performance.

      (FWIW, I like–and appreciate–Justified well enough…though for some reason I’ve never gotten wholly addicted to the show, so I’ve been consuming it very slowly on Amazon Prime).

      • Vance Maverick

        I believe this was an allusion to the Poor Man’s comment on Tiger Woods and golf. A declaration of lack of interest in the show — not of outrage at the offense.

        • Incontinentia Buttocks

          I was, apparently, not aware of all internet traditions.

          • firefall

            Isnt that one of the internet traditions, to not be aware of all internet traditions?

            • Malaclypse

              I’m not aware of that.

  • You know who else can’t watch Justified?

    Hitler.

    Think about it…

    • SEK

      Damn it, that would’ve made for a much better title for this post.

  • From the graphic, it suggests that some time and effort went into this schtick – Even the spelling and grammar are nominally correct, so I assume an editor was involved, maybe a graphic designer – and that he’s been doing this for a while with nobody noticing. How sad is that?

    • SEK

      I actually deleted a paragraph analyzing the image, which, yes, is far better than the sort of thing one normally finds on the Internets. I’m sure he had someone make it for him … actually, it appears to be a crop of his official Justified Season Four shot, which he also posts a cropped version of on his official website. Now, if I were an asshole, I’d start investigating as to whether FX granted him the rights to put that image to personal use or political purpose. My guess would be it didn’t, but I’m not an asshole, so I’ll let it slide.

      • If you were a twitchy-quality asshole, you’d accuse him of impersonating a federal agent for using the image with the badge for private, political purposes.

        If you were Mitch McConnell, you’d actually call the FBI….

        • Cody

          If you were Mitch McConnell, you’d actually call the FBI….

          This is a new internet tradition just waiting to be used.

          Expect me.

      • cpinva

        if you were really an asshole, you’d really fuck him up, by spreading this around the net, with a heading along the lines of:

        “Actor Tells People To Not Watch His TV Show, Claims It’s Low Quality!”

        let him explain that to the producers paying his salary, and the rest of the cast and crew.

  • LoriK

    I can’t imagine that TPTB at Justified are all that thrilled about having one of their actors tell someone not to watch their show. Maybe it’s just me, but if I was a not really famous actor playing a fairly small part I’d be concerned that my character was about to be involved in a fatal altercation of some sort or leave town to pursue other opportunities in law enforcement or something.

    • redrob64

      There has been talk this season of Art’s impending retirement, so maybe he sees the end coming and wants to go out with a…somehow “bang” doesn’t seem quite right.

  • I’m sure his empty threat to take away toys he doesn’t own via means he can’t control must really sting.

    That is a thing of beauty.

    JzB

  • Never heard of him. Never heard of the TV show. But if he’s like every other Republican actor I’ve ever heard of, he gets one shot at a successful TV show and after that, he has to spend the rest of his life appearing in “American Carol” remakes.

  • mds

    This @amandamarcotte claims to like quality television? Well here’s one show she can no longer watch: JUSTIFIED.

    Yeah, uh, never mind the aforementioned potential problem with an actor telling people not to watch the show he’s in … and telling them on the internet. Doesn’t his statement basically assert [DIAGRAMS FURIOUSLY] that Justified isn’t quality television? I mean, what’s next, Nick? Getting #JustifiedIsShit trending on Twitter?

    • SEK

      I couldn’t support this on principle, but it would be highly amusing, especially if his own Tweet was provided as evidence.

  • Joshua

    “Republicans buy sneakers too” – Michael Jordan

    I wonder how Justified’s producers feel about one of their actors basically saying that “leftists” shouldn’t watch the show.

    Myself, I’ve never seen it but was curious. Now, I never will.

    • LoriK

      As noted above, it’s a good show and his part is small. The fact that he showed his ass on Twitter really isn’t a reason not to watch.

  • Warren Terra

    The rush of sweet affirmation they feel as this Conservative actor declares his show to be off-limits to Liberals must act as a salve for the pain they feel every time some dangerously Lefty actor forces them to watch their show.

  • Medrawt

    What I particularly don’t get is that while sometimes conservative entertainers complain about Hollywood’s liberal groupthink, Searcy right now is playing a wonderfully written part as probably the most beloved supporting character on a critically adored show that’s one of the highest rated dramas on one of the two or three most buzzed-about cable channels. I think Searcy is a wonderful actor and as such I intrinsically wish he had more opportunities, but the job of playing Art Mullen is pretty awesome in the spectrum of available TV gigs right now. And it’s all in an ecosystem dominated by people who think along very similar lines to Amanda Marcotte. Perhaps they don’t talk about it as much around him because they know he disagrees, or perhaps they just don’t talk about much because unlike her, that’s not what they get paid to do, but he’s gotta know that plenty of the writers putting wonderful dialogue into his mouth have similar opinions. I don’t mean this in a “don’t shit where you eat” sense – I would be pissed off, as a fan, if the writers turned on Searcy or something ridiculous like that. I just literally don’t get it. He doesn’t have to agree with the people he’s working with, but why would he by implication be so disrespectful of so many of his coworkers and bosses?

    • commie atheist

      Well, the fact that he actually knowingly and of his free will did a campaign ad for Herman Cain (see Jonas’ link at 7:06) tells me that his overall judgment is not terribly sound.

  • laura

    “I’m not a smart, or even basically competent, human being, but I play one on tv.”

    • heckblazer

      Hey, actors don’t need to actually be smart, educated or decent, they just need to be able to fake it.

      • Cody

        Are you saying all Republicans are actors.

        Whoa

  • commie atheist

    If “Justified” is so good, why can’t I stream it on Netflix? Huh? Huh? Answer me that, Mr. Fancy Pants Academic.

    • Haystack

      First three seasons are on (Canadian) Netflix. Always heard US Netflix had more choice, not less. Did you really, really look?

      • Warren Terra

        US Netflix tends to have fairly weak streaming options, sadly. They seem to have most of AMC, USA, and SyFy’s recent output, some of what the BBC has released in region one, some Canadian stuff. From Fx, TNT, Showtime, HBO, and the four broadcast networks, they have rather less, and are missing the most popular (and most recent, or ongoing) shows.

    • Timb

      Amazon has exclusive right to stream Justified. FX, like most basic cable companies thinks streaming hurts DVD sales AND hates cord cutters like my family, who want to watch their show without paying 60 or more bucks a month to AT&T

    • It is “on demand” through my default cable provider (for free).

      [Also, it’s a great show. /.02)

    • avoidswork

      Because you are apparently streaming-challenged? If supposed to be sarcasm, needs a bit more work.

  • somethingblue

    SEK I know, and Amanda Marcotte I know, but who is this Nick Searcy person?

    • Warren Terra

      He’s Nick Searcy. But you knew that.

      (it’s an actual tag line he uses in his actual YouTube videos, which, um, exist)

    • Hogan

      Is that an Acts of the Apostles reference? Because if it is, I want to have your children.

  • SEK

    Who’d have thought that’d one in the post would only be the second-best “twitpic” posted here tonight? Who? Not me. But I’m wrong, so very, very wrong.

    • SEK

      (Please refrain from making fun of anything other than the fact that he posted that because he thought it’d make him look cool.)

      • Warren Terra

        Hey, at least he’s got the proper respect for the importance of safety gear (though I’d have thought he might want gloves offering better protection)

        • SEK

          He is GLEAMING THAT CUBE, and don’t you forget it!

          • commie atheist

            Well, if we were the commenters at Protein Wisdom, I’m sure we’d be saying something about all that sissified safety gear, but since we’re not, we won’t.

            • SEK

              EXACTLY. If he can’t save his adopted Vietnamese brother from committing suicide after-the-fact, who will? Who will?

          • People really ought to do that in private, tho.

          • Malaclypse

            CUBE ISREAL!

      • Mike Schilling

        You know that’s photoshopped, and he’s actually on a perfectly level sidewalk.

      • Gabriel Ratchet

        I always wondered what happened to Poochie after The Simpsons let him go ….

    • Dan Coyle

      Christ, even in 1985 he looks like an old man.

  • Skulander

    Oh wow. The ridiculousness of right-wing wingnuts, and how they think we actually CARE about their bigoted, antideluvian views, never ceases to amuse me. Amanda, of course, will just ignore them. Because that’s just what they deserve.

    • djangermats

      Amanda Marcotte will probably love this and write a fuckton about it, ignoring the crazy isn’t really her MO

  • Aaron Baker

    And WHO is Nick Searcy?

    • dean norris

      Nick Searcy is just a second-rate supporting actor on some TV show who thinks that people are watching it because of HIM.

      • SamR

        He’s good on Justified.

        He’s also maybe the 3rd male lead (definitely not 1 or 2, arguably 4th) on a show that’s the not the most popular drama on a network that airs 4 dramas.

    • Mike Schilling

      Some kind of inventor. Talks a lot.

    • cpinva

      “And WHO is Nick Searcy?”

      john galt’s lesser known, dumber half-brother.

      • Aaron Baker

        Reminds me of a laughably common type of commercial: “I’m Buffo Ribisi [let us say], and I wouldn’t put MY name on it if it weren’t the best!”

  • Who’s Nick Searcy and should I care?

  • bargal

    Do “Justified” executive producer and star Tim Olyphant and co-star Walton Goggins know that an actor who plays a minor character in their show has decided to ban pro-choice people from viewing the show?

  • Darek

    Well, this isn’t as crushing as finding out Adam Baldwin was a Breitbart contributing douche, but I still hate to see someone from a favorite show act the very definition of right wing stereotype.

  • Fighting Words

    I am so confused…In the main post, I only know Amanda Marcotte.

    I have never heard of “Justified” or Nick Searcy before I read this post, but I think I can get information about them from commentors’ descriptions (or I could just Google it).

    But what is “Twitchy?” Is this some conservative version of Twitter? I have never heard of such a thing.

    • Darek

      I have never heard of “Justified” or Nick Searcy before I read this post,

      Now that’s something that needs to be immediately rectified.

    • spencer

      But what is “Twitchy?” Is this some conservative version of Twitter? I have never heard of such a thing.

      It is, sort of. It’s more like a Twitter-fueled, perpetual-motion wingnut outrage machine. Michelle Malkin runs it, if that tells you anything.

      • cpinva

        ok, i wondered that myself. yes, yes it does, it tells me a lot.

  • Bob Loblaw

    Cheap, easy, and sneering tribal-identification tweet. Check.

    Anything else to this I’m not aware of?

  • Mr Black

    Twitchy is a website run by the ghoul known as Michelle Malkin.

    • Fighting Words

      Thanks! Another website I will never visit.

  • Here is an idea of Twitchy.

    Don’t bother clicking, here are the important/interesting paragraphs:

    The conservative embrace of identity politics and victimology, once the preserve of the far left*, has often been noted in these pages but never had a name. Now we do, and it’s perfect. If you doubt it, I urge you to spend a little while on Michelle Malkin’s timeline (not too long, it’s not good for anyone). It won’t take you long to see the nature of the game: she, along with her many peers and acolytes, are engaged in a perpetual phony war against largely imaginary enemies. Conservatives are encouraged to see themselves as under siege, the last and greatest of oppressed minorities. The tiniest of slights from any vaguely left-of-center source is converted into fuel for the rage machine.

    The current front page of Twitchy.com, Malkin’s “news” site, leads with the following stories: a passive-aggressive tweet from discredited smear artist James O’Keefe, some fish-in-a-barrel mockery of a celebrity event at the White House and two separate stories about remarks made by an MSNBC commentator, the latter starring Sarah Palin.

    It will be seen that none of the above is, in any conceivable sense, damaging to liberals or beneficial to conservatives. Nobody outside the hard-right bubble cares about these non-stories, still less will they change anyone’s vote or affect the course of any legislation. This is the fight Malkin and so many others like her have chosen: a withdrawal from concrete policy goals into a battlefield of manufactured outrage and endless, tiny, wholly meaningless victories.

    ===================================
    *Eat it, pal. There are actual victims, you know.

    • Joshua

      she, along with her many peers and acolytes, are engaged in a perpetual phony war against largely imaginary enemies. Conservatives are encouraged to see themselves as under siege, the last and greatest of oppressed minorities. The tiniest of slights from any vaguely left-of-center source is converted into fuel for the rage machine.

      This has been true as long as I remember. Remember when 300 came out? How they imagined themselves (and the US) as the Spartan warriors and the rest of the world (including the LIEberals) as the Persians?

  • BruceK

    All I know of Mr. S above is that he played Deke Slayton in the “From the Earth to the Moon” miniseries about a decade ago – a prominent role.

    I got a copy for myself, and a copy for my folks at Christmas, and the realization that some of my hard-earned money went to subsidize that screed makes me cringe.

  • I’ve heard of Amanda Marcotte. Never heard of Nick Searcy.

  • Will

    Nick Searcy is not amused: http://i.imgur.com/95RDwVC.jpg

    Its really weird how many pictures there are of conservatives in drag. Very….suspicious…

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