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Clearly, the problem is that not every American firefighter is armed, preferably with another armed guard for when they’re actually firefighting. We can pay through all of this with minor reductions in the foreign aid outlays that constitute 95% of federal expenditures.
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Guns don’t kill people, house fires armed with guns kill people.
Other houses in the neighborhood say the house was a loner…
Yeah, it kept to itself. But its lawn always looked nice.
The shooter went to prison for killing his mother with a hammer.
Clearly, hammers should be regulated and it could be done except for the NHA which believes every American has the right to keep and bear hammers.
Guns and hammers are clearly analogous. After all, both can be used in household repairs.
Wait…
Guns and hammers are clearly analogous. After all, both can be used
in household repairsfor good and evil.Corrected that for ya’
Can they be used to make pancakes?
Yes
They can also be used to beat in your brains.
Merry Christmas
Gleefully pushing monstrous and absurd beliefs without revealing whether they’re based in mendacity or in willful and staggering ignorance is one of the more disconcerting human behaviors.
And yours
Well, not in your case, as you have to have some brains for that to happen.
aren’t we lucky that this particular typical conservative did not have a device to hurl hammers at rapid speed from a distance!
Clearly, hammers should be regulated
If one could kill 20 children in a few minutes, yes. Must be hard for you going through life stupid and sociopathic.
Clearly it is not. He learned it from Goldstein. Never has there been a more disingenuous group of nihilistic wingnuts
Yeah, because there’s nothing safer than taking live ammunition into a burning building….
I live with a close enough vantage point to this to see the smoke if I climb up on my roof with my binoculars.
What the hell happened the last week? I mean, what’s next? Is someone going to storm a police station Terminator style? Because that’s the logical goddamn progression!
I’m waiting for someone to shoot up a nursing home and/or NICU.
Didn’t someone shoot up an ICU (not a NICU) the same day as Sandy Hook?
“He causes his sun to rise upon the good and the bad, and he causes it to rain upon the just and the unjust.” We can only prepare for the worst when we are visited by such acts of God. But maybe if those commie queers in Hollywood changed their ways God wouldn’t be so angry!
Clearly the only solution is to have armed police in every home in the nation (paid for by mysterious “cuts to foreign [non-Israeli] aid.”
Or, if that fails, armed police on every point on a 3 foot-by-3 foot-grid across the entire nation.
What’s that you say? No, sily! All of the authoritarian fascists are on the left. Ross Douthat said so.
Clearly the only solution is to have armed police in every home in the nation (paid for by mysterious “cuts to foreign [non-Israeli] aid.”
You think you mock, but if you swap ‘armed police’ with ‘NRA-trained volunteers’ you pretty much hit the NRA’s stance directly on target.
I was just trying to extend the principle to its logical conclusion. Any similarity to mocking is purely coincidental.
This is one-sided. A truly balanced plan would also propose cuts to the other 5%, which goes to waste, fraud and abuse.
Of course, any real solution to gun violence will involve tax cuts for millionaires.
In the interests of bipartisanship, it should also incorporate social security cuts, as well as a commitment to increased funding for missile defense.
What ever happened to raising taxes on the 47%?
I would just like to repeat that John Stuart Mill was far too generous.
Can anyone think of a video game that doesn’t involve guns or perhaps an 80′s movie from John Hughes that LaPierre can blame this on?
Q*bert.
lunar lander, but hey I’m old.
Frogger.
Kar Killers
Dig Dug
Centipede.
Rome: Total War?
Choplifter. Lode Runner.
A. Infinity Blade.
B. Pretty in Pink is enough to make me go on a metaphorical killing spree.
That was more flip than I intended, given that volunteer firefighters – people who perform the definition of good works – are dead. To quote my grandfather, after cracking jokes about the pogrom he witnessed, what should I do, cry?
well, they were just asking for it with their union and healthcare and pensions and all.
ooops, “volunteer”. Ignore that previous.
zombie is not reading for comprehension today.
less eating words, more eating brains, zomb
Community organizations are communist or at least socialist? There!
I blame License to Drive.
I blame Pong. Everything has gone right to hell since then.
I blame Adventure. Though SEK may not agree.
Dunno, I think Zork may have been the tipping point.
You have obviously played it.
I blame Viva Pinata. All those cute colorful animals would drive anyone into a murderous rage.
At first I read Viva Pinata as Vada Pinson which would open a whole new dimension of blame deflection!
When my dad was a kid, 1920s and early 30s, it was penny dreadfuls and Cap’n Billy’s Whiz Bang that was the ruination of our you’t. In the 30s it was Jimmy Cagney and Edward G. Robinson. After WW2 it was was film noir. When I was in gradeschool, I was going to hell in a handbasket because I read comic books. Early 60s? Elvis, than rock and roll generally. Late 60s? Oooh, the music, and the hippies; mygawd, the hippies! Then TV (always TV), and movies again, and (be afraid! be very afraid!) video games! The horror.
Funny how all these big-talking conservatives are afraid of their own fucking shadows. Anyone seen a librul shooter lately?
Anyone seen a librul shooter lately?
Patty Hearst, am I right? Or that hippie with the bandage across his nose in Dirty Harry.
Armed guards at every firehouse and to go on every call. There was a shooting at a PA church(IIRC) even while LaPierre was speaking. Maybe armed guards at every church.
The logical end to this insanity is the nation forming a gigantic circle, all pointing guns at each other.
A
Mexicanself-deported standoff.http://www.amazon.com/The-Jagged-Orbit-John-Brunner/dp/0575070528/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356380909&sr=8-1&keywords=john+brunner+jagged
Yup, that book, for all its faults, is relevant here. Should I summarise the relevant point here?
Yes, a man shot and killed a woman decorating a church hall for a children’s Christmas party, after which he killed two men on a country road near the village of Geeseytown (Altoona area)and then shot it out with police. Four dead: A man with guns worrying about End Times and the Mayan calendar.
When will firefighters ever learn, that in today’s America, before you start fighting the fire, you need to establish a solid perimeter, and set up some picket’s?
Wait, I thought firefighters were trained for firefights?
I suppose it’s appropriate to tell Wayne LaPierrre to die in a fire today?
Your clear advocacy of murder is offensive, sir!
Only conservatives are allowed to use metaphors that involve the deaths of “libruls” and “socialists.”
Slow clap.
Definitely a +1
Everybody’s favorite neoconfederate has a lengthy post today based on the premise that if someone has ever said “fuck” in the past they can’t possibly be using metaphor.
Well son of a bitch, I’m fucked.
Well, I am fucking well and truly fucked now.
Really? I don’t fucking believe it!!
Well fuck him like a walrus.
Now thats fucked.
Fuck him, I say.
That implies he didn’t actually ride in on a literal horse.
These people are pathetic losers.
Ha. Shows you. My favorite neo-Confederate is Thomas DiLorenzo
I can’t WAIT to see what kind of bells-to-the-wall massacree some guntard loon has planned for Christmas Day.
The Webster shooter had served time in jail for killing his blind grandmother with a hammer.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20121224/NEWS01/312240031/Firefighters-shot-Details-about-Webster-shooter-William-H-Spengler-Jr-emerge
Well, it would have been kind of hard for him to have killed the two firefighters the same way he was able to kill a blind 92 year old woman. Thankfully the second amendment gave him the opportunity to go out with a bang….
Seventeen years doesn’t necessarily sound like a crazily lenient sentence for murder, though one might quibble, especially since at 30 he was old enough to know better and young enough that he’d get out while still fit. And for damn sure he didn’t get the mental health treatment he needed during that time – but how is beating your 92-year-old grandmother to death with a hammer “manslaughter”?
He did it to the tune “If I Had A Hammer”?
If the prosecutor had gone to a more expensive and therefore better law school, the killer would still be in jail.
Mmmmmm……NO!
Prosecutors are there to make a deal. Any deal that will keep the case from going to trial and won’t totally enrage the community.
The system of plea bargaining is inherently evil. It allows the guilty to get off with a lesser charge and pressures the innocent to admit to crimes they didn’t commit…all for the convenience of the government.
Being part of that system is not something to be proud of, Paul.
Old newspaper article gives some detail. No prior record and DA happy with 17 years. 25 was the max.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/assets/pdf/A21985601224.PDF
Yeah, gives the detail that plea bargaining allows murderers to get off with a manslaughter charge.
Anyone who beats an old lady to death with a hammer, especially one’s own mother, is guilty of murder and should absolutely get be put to death.
Hands down.
Maybe some of the crazies like this guy wouldn’t be around if the liberal whiners would get on board with getting rid of those who have demonstrated that they are cold blooded killers.
Thanks liberals…thanks for nothin’.
I like the new troll persona. It has a kind of gritty, Eastwoodish character to it. More like this, please!
Just a couple of comments:
1. “one’s own mother” seems like a false step to me. How about “the guy’s own mother”? Or even “the perp’s own mother”?
2. “should absolutely get be put to death.” Clearly you were going for “get the chair,” and then realized that it’s mostly lethal injection these days. Don’t second-guess yourself like this! The first thought is often the best one.
A B+ for this overall, but I see a lot of potential here.
Since you’ve taken it upon yourself to do the grading ( which I suspect you will come to regret): does the troll lose points or gain points for factual inaccuracy (the shooter was imprisoned for murdering his grandmother, not his mother, which was already clear in this thread)? I can see it going either way …
Factual accuracy has a liberal bias.
No, that just adds to the hard-boiled vibe. She was
his motherhis grandmotherhis mother …I think we can agree – she was female, and therefore beneath Jennie’s ability to distinguish individuality. Bitchez be bitchez.
Maybe it’s own of those Faye Dunaway in Chinatown things? Mother AND grandmother?
Mother and sister.
I know, I was just taking some poetic license.
You need a license for that now? Baaastids!
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I wish you people would not feed your trolls.
Actually, now that I think of it, JenBob is slyly alluding to Sophocles, as Iocasta is both mother and grandmother to Antigone and Polynices.
fucking block quotes
How do they work?
Painful, don’t do it.
Everything’s gone straight to hell since Sinatra played Juarez.
I didn’t see that film. Good idea for a biopic, but odd casting
Actually, I think everything went to Hell with Marie Osmond’s divorce, or so the Bloom Picayune told me.
It’s obvious that 300 million civilian-owned handguns, rifles, and shotguns has not sufficed to end this problem. I therefore stand by my now consistently held position that the answer must be hand grenades. If each firefighter was charging into blazing fires with a bandolier of hand grenades, this never would have happened.
Also: this just proves the old maxim: a firefighter should never bring a fire axe to a firefight.
One of the victims was also a cop, IIRC.
Too bad he wasn’t a janitor who could have heaved a bucket at the shooter’s knees, per Charlotte Allen.
McMegan wants to know why there wasn’t a small horde of children charging the shooter.
And Outhouse is wondering whether any of the victims might have been accomplices. Just asking questions, of course.
They need to bring back the bucket brigade.
In the interest of “fairness”, its important to remember that crazy people who beat their mothers to death with hammers are just people and they deserve a second chance in society.
The APA will tell you that it was the right thing to do to mainstream the crazies. We all deserve a second chance to kill again, don’t we?
Can I order pancakes now?
Enjoy your pancakes. Need more syrup?
Subtext again becoming text, Jennie dearest. That is one hell of a dumbprint.
You’re a teaser, you turn ‘em on
Leave them burning and then you’re gone
Looking out for another, anyone will do
You do realize that the great release of patients from mental hospitals was under Reagan, first as California governor, and then as president, don’t you?
He has presumably forgotten when he was released.
You do realize that the great release of patients from mental hospitals was under Reagan, first as California governor, and then as president, don’t you?
Crazies are doing crazy things. I want to see them profiled and, if truly crazy, off the streets.
Again, you wish to make this my side/your side instead of discussing the issues. I’m not here to protect anyone or make points.
Apparently, you are. Try speaking some truth for a change.
Your impersonation of a kitchen table is flawless.
You malign kitchen tables, which have far higher IQs.
if truly crazy, off the streets.
Maybe put them in some kind of camp, where they can be concentrated. Make them wear armbands. Sterilize them! Funny no-one thought of that before.
The armband could have some sort of symbol on it. Something simple, perhaps only three sides. The color should be sombre, since no one is happy about this.
Maybe put them in some kind of camp, where they can be concentrated.
It’s called a mental hospital.
Or, we could give them some hammers and ask them to deliver a package to your Mom.
I already delivered a package to her….she said it was the first time she had been with a non-mental defective (your dad and then you).
She then served me pancakes, but she used margarine rather than butter. I will not be back, since unlike your mom I have standards
Say “hi” to your Mom for me.
For unto us a
ChildTroll is born, unto us aSonMoron is given: and the government shall beupon His shouldera muslim socialist tyrant: and His name shall be calledWonderfulJennifer Steele,CounsellorBob, the mightyGodWurlitzer, the everlastingFatherWhiner, the Prince ofPeaceDumb.how many did you kill on your first chance?