Awful People

It’s like 1990s-vintage Clinton derangement.   Generating a conspiracy theory from the Benghazi faux-scandal, a passel of wingers argued that Hillary Clinton was faking an illness. (Glenn Reynolds, needless to say, was in the lead.)

Clinton, as most of you now know, has a blood clot from her concussion and has been hospitalized.  Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

…As R. Porrofatto notes in comments, longtime Clinton conspiracy nut Ann Althouse would still like to subscribe to Charles Krauthammer’s newsletter.   And yet, she refuses to tell us whether the fake blood clot is related to the murder of Vince Foster or Bill Clinton’s massive drug-running operation!  We need answers, people!   Needless to say, it got her an Instapundit link.

73 comments on this post.
  1. trex:

    If here is any basis at all for karma these debased pricks will now get blood clots themselves. And during their convalescence their detractors will accuse them of avoiding owning up to their mocking of Hillary’s health issues while they suck it.

    ‘Cause head injuries are all “har-dee-har” right guys? That’s your motto: “Every torture a fraternity prank, every Silver Star injury just a nick….”

  2. James E Powell:

    With Susan Rice dumped, does anyone care about Benghazi anymore?

  3. Aaron:

    Krauthammer’s every bit as good a doctor as he is a columnist. The key distinction being that, despite his medical training, he appears to limit his practice of medicine to incompetent armchair diagnoses of Democratic politicians.

  4. Morbo:

    No one who isn’t still harping on Fast and Furious or Solyndra.

  5. JosephW:

    Just FoxNoise and a bunch of teabagging suckup GOPers (who still haven’t quite come to grips with the fact that the President has a slightly different complexion than they do).

  6. David Nieporent:

    Yes, I remember when those same wingers adopted these nutty theories about Hillary Clinton’s choking on a pretzel being code for her drunkenness. Oh, wait, no, that was a different set of “wingers”, and it was George Bush.

  7. Lurker Delurking:

    If nothing else, the right’s reaction to Benghazi provides some support to those who believe that had Gore been president on 9/11, the Republicans would have called for his impeachment within five minutes of the towers’ fall.

  8. Ramon A. Clef:

    If Gore had been President on 9/11, the security briefings on AQ would have been taken seriously, and maybe those towers would still be there.

  9. Anonymous:

    ‘You’ve covered your ass”…

  10. Major Kong:

    But Mom! The other kids did it too!

  11. c u n d gulag:

    GOP POV:
    That concussion story is pretty flimsy.
    At least, the way the Democrats are telling it.

    Maybe that Lesbian finally went to Vince Foster’s, her former lover’s, grave, to dig up the Whitewater fortune she buried with him, and his hand shot up, and banged her head on his tombstone repeatedly, causing that concussion.

    Yeah, yeah, that’s the ticket!

  12. TT:

    When hatred, mendacity, cynicism, and manipulation are all you know, you probably just assume that everybody else is that way, too. You never stop and contemplate that you’re a pretty grotesque and abnormal individual whose mind, morals, and ethics operate in a really, really grotesque and abnormal way.

  13. Njorl:

    Me too, except for the pretzel part. I remember lefties making a big deal out of his inability to speak in sentences, his laziness, his shirking of responsibility, his blundering stupidity, and his long history of drunkenness.

  14. R. Porrofatto:

    Under the heading of Awful People, with a great dollop of willful stupidity and sheer miserable assholery, you can’t beat Althouse, who’s still hammering this, in her distinctively abhorrent way. (I could describe her recent abhorrent theories but you wouldn’t believe me.)

  15. Lacking Moral Fiber aka Useless Muthfucka frmly Nemesis:

    Has anyone actually seen Hillary’s brain scans?

    I thought not. CONSPIRACY!!1!

  16. Malaclypse:

    ANNIE: Here’s medical expert Kent Sepkowitz:

    AUDIENCE: Hi, Dr. Nick!

  17. Ken:

    Or Whitewater or Troopergate or…

    Come to think of it: Or the Soviet Union or fluoridation or who lost China or…

    And I suppose I should throw in Fort Sumter and the burning of Atlanta.

  18. The Dark Avenger:

    Yep, David, Katrina van den Heuvel, Paul Krugman, Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygur, and a whole host of Lefties were on the Pretzelgate scandal like white on rice

    not.

    Can’t defend the indefensible?

    Then just act like the other side did it first.

    Good strategy, David, with thinking like that, it’s almost impossible to understand how your side lost the last two presidential elections, not to twist the knife in the wound or anything like that……………..

  19. Uncle Kvetch:

    And the minions don’t disappoint. First commenter chez Althouse:

    “If (remember that I said if) she’s faking to avoid testimony, then I would assume that the facts about the Benghazi incident are far more damaging to the Obama admin than previously speculated.”

    Remember that, you guys. He said if! He’s just asking questions!

  20. Halloween Jack:

    Really? Let’s see the video on that, David–just one will do.

  21. rea:

    Oh, like GWB’s brain scans would have been controversial! “X-ray of Bush’s head reveals nothing.” At least not more controversial than that of Dizzy Dean . . .

  22. Uncle Kvetch:

    Jack, are you actually going to pretend not to remember Barney Frank’s notorious (and hilarious) portrayal of “Drunken Dubya” on Meet the Press? David Gregory almost fell out of his chair.

  23. manta:

    Is it so unusual for a politician to feign illness, that the right thinks it would show the extraordinary mendacity of Hillary Clinton and the left clutches her pearls about such lowly innuendo?

    I would have thought that most illnesses at politically convenient momemts were faked, and nobody cared much about it.

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  25. Anticorium:

    In other hateful people doubling down on stuff, some right-wing BuzzFeed-for-children site listed Erik in the top 20 deleted tweets of the year.

    They also listed Donald Trump’s call for revolution after the black guy won misspelling “dummy” as “dumby”.

  26. Timb:

    His training is in psychiatry, I think, so he’s not a real doc…..errrr, real good diagnostician

  27. Marc McKenzie:

    Good point. Cynicism seems to be oozing from all parts nowadays….

  28. Timb:

    And, of course, I remember it, but I don’t cite to it. Honestly, David, all the cool libertarians are going with “what about those guy and gals Twitchy found rooting for HW to die?”

    I mean, if you’re gonna troll, know your talking point

  29. SP:

    Is it irresponsible to speculate? It would be irresponsible not… oh, fuck it, of course it’s irresponsible, but that’s our middle name.

  30. Timb:

    There is/was something to be said for technocratic competence. The ideologues with Bush did not have it

  31. Timb:

    Reynolds, for whom a new word needs to be invented…contempt just doesn’t cover his disgustingness, also doubles down

    BENGHAZI: What’s Happening to Hillary? Only a clod would say the clot is a plot! “The suppression of information — the site of the clot — suggests 2 radically different theories: 1. fakery/exaggeration to evade testimony, or 2. something horribly serious. I read Sepkowitz to exclude the middle ground.”

    Posted at 8:56 am by Glenn Reynolds

  32. Timb:

    Weird to suckle at Althouse, eh, Glenn

  33. DrDick:

    Oddly, I don’t remember that at all. I do remember it as being seen ans yet another example of his general incompetence.

  34. trex:

    And if Hillary were to tragically pass away as a result of this blood clot, Reynolds would just shrug and quote someone suggesting that Obama had her killed to cover up Benghazi with his little “don’t blame me, this is just what people are talking about” routine.

    And on what firmament might THAT conspiracy theory rest, you ask? Don’t bother; it’s contemptible assholes all the way down.

  35. Davis X. Machina:

    The truth of the assertion is, I believe, an airtight affirmative defense against libel.

  36. Woodrowfan:

    and what did happen to William Morgan anyway??

  37. Woodrowfan:

    JAQing Off.

  38. Scott Lemieux:

    Ah yes, not just a tu quoque, but a tu quoque that compares a few random people in Daily Kos comments with influential conservative politicians and pundits. That’s some seriously inept trolling.

  39. taylormattd:

    Althouse doesn’t believe such blood clots exist, because in her experience, the red wine level in one’s blood prevents clotting.

  40. mark f:

    Nah, most of us remember George W. Bush as the guy whose face exploded in boils due to the pressures of the 2000 campaign. We don’t think it would take alcohol to cause him to almost die by pretzel.

  41. BigHank53:

    I not-so-eagerly await the kerning analysis of the long-form MRI.

  42. Malaclypse:

    I think we can all agree that Bush’s obvious hyper-competence, laser-like focus, and constant attention to detail preclude any possibility of drunkenness. The record speaks for itself.

  43. Roger Ailes:

    We all know “Dr.” Helen Smith faked a heart attack to avoid Instacracker’s unsavory advances.

  44. Keaaukane:

    Brain bleach, please.

  45. mark f:

    “Truthers” would be the people who believed that someone named Osama bin Laden could’ve orchestrated such a thing.

  46. mark f:

    These people specialize in pretending not to have lived in the world, and in getting their minions to do likewise. I’ve had two family members with similar conditions. It tends to lead to prompt surgery, a few days in the hospital, and a rest period. The idea that a clot either must be faked or an I-saw-that-light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel experience like a sudden brain aneurysm or a nasty bout of pneumonia, and nothing in between, is asinine, and they all fucking know it.

  47. Theo J.:

    The pathetic thing: Susan Rice lost out because Sen. John McCain wanted to draw blood from the Obama Administration, and not really investigate what set off the attacks in Benghazi (and elsewhere). The truth behind how “The Innocence Of Muslims’, and how it was ever seen by an easily-inflamed TV audience in Egypt/North Africa, is the stuff of farce. And HOW was this produced by a guy supposedly on Federal parole, working as an informant?

  48. Naomi Wolf Fan:

    Oh, come on, how can you be so naive? There is a long history of politicians pretending to have problems to avoid answering difficult questions, like when Ronald Reagan pretended he couldn’t hear the press over the rotors of Marine One, even though it hadn’t been started up yet.

    What are you covering up for, Scott?

  49. Hogan:

    Well, that would explain why Eric Holder got a producer credit.

  50. Jon H:

    What I remember is Bush dragging his feet on testifying about 9/11, until he was allowed to testify on Cheney’s knee.

  51. Kip W:

    I was more impressed with the eight years in which Reagan convincingly simulated senile dementia, despite being the smartest guy in the whole wide world. And a saint.

  52. Glenn:

    I demand Bill Frist to come in and diagnose Hillary’s problem by videotape.

  53. Anticorium:

    A few Daily Kos commenters and a Boondocks by Aaron McGruder. This conspiracy goes all the way to the top of the middle of syndicated newspaper comics!

  54. timb:

    I was just lectured by David last week at Volokh about much smarter Volokh commenters are compared to LGM. And, then he comes here and drops this!

    Is “Nieporent” Greek for “silly”?

  55. Theo J.:

    Not so much. I suspect lower-level Fed handlers gave N.B. Nakoula too much slack, and he attempted yet another felonious caper. Hasn’t got the knack of it YET, so it would seem…

  56. cleter:

    I think they’d be really torn between ‘BLACULA HAD HER KILLED TO SHUT HER UP!” and “OMG SHE FAKED HER OWN DEATH!”

  57. RhZ:

    You mean his yearly (brief, thankfully) sojourn into unfamiliar waters?

  58. DrDick:

    Given that he is batshit crazy, I think Aaron’s point holds.

  59. DrDick:

    Well, seriously inept pretty much defines David, doesn’t it? Along with total cluelessness and an overwhelming aversion to reality.

  60. DrDick:

    More like “terminally brain damaged.”

  61. Lacking Moral Fiber aka Useless Muthfucka frmly Nemesis:

    WIN^

  62. Anonymous:

    Althouse and her ilk are suspicious because the press release didn’t say where the clot was. Now, I’m no doctor, but my guess is, during a follow up check for a concussion, that they looked at her head. Even the worst neurologist is not going to MRI a leg to see if the head is doing okay. Sheesh, these people!

  63. ema:

    Doctors have now revealed the location of Sec. of State Clinton’s blood clot. “This is a clot in the vein that is situated in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear. It did not result in a stroke, or neurological damage.”

  64. ema:

    “In the course of a routine follow-up MRI on Sunday, the scan revealed that a right transverse sinus venous thrombosis had formed,” said Dr. Lisa Bardack and Dr. Gigi El-Bayoumi in a statement released by the State Department. “This is a clot in the vein that is situated in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear. It did not result in a stroke, or neurological damage.”

  65. Halloween Jack:

    Seriously? If so, I would sincerely love to see it. (I could just about see Frank doing it, too.)

  66. mds:

    And I suppose I should throw in Fort Sumter and the burning of Atlanta.

    Well, in all fairness, I harp on the burning of Atlanta, albeit by repeatedly declaring that Sherman needed to go back and forth a few more times.

  67. DrDick:

    Having been concussed myself, I know that clots are a fairly common side effect and that they do not always show up immediately.

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  70. Left_Wing_Fox:

    I doubt any moisture is involved.

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