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[SL]: I don’t always watch Fox News. But when I do, it’s after MSNBC has called the tipping point state.
…[SL] Karl Rove is complaining that the election was prematurely called. Karl Rove. Swear to God.
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I would like to echo those sentiments.
My own sentiments are, “Suck. On. This!”
Every two to four years, we need to pick up some shitty political party and throw it up against a wall.
Someone needs to bludgeon Friedman and Charlie Rose and his booker. What a pathetic cast of know nothings clinging to centrist delusions.
If only there was a pithy internet tradition-abbreviation wherein I could express my outright, verbally articulated laughter in three short letters.
BiB?
Hah?
but it is only because Obama unfairly attack Romney
and bailed out the auto industry. Damn you Ohio.
Woot! Woot!
So, is it OK to criticize him now? Because fuck drones and fuck silence on climate change.
Lets hope the EPA fixes the latter in the next year
mentioned climate change in acceptance speech +2
also mentioned deficit reduction -1
and bipartisanship -1
but is not Romney nor Republican +1000
Mentioning something in your acceptance speech is the very definition of cheap talk.
Sweet, sweet wingnut tears. Please go on.
I agree. It’s not like anyone in their right mind actually expects Obama to work together with Romney. Who the fuck’s Romney that he should expect to have a voice in how our country’s governed? Short of the voice we all get, obviously, on the voting booth.
I know it’s not much for them in the grand scheme of things, but I am so glad that all these rich fucks burned ~$550 million and couldn’t get their man in office.
One huge story is how Citizens United made no difference at all in the presidential election. Downballot I think it is very different. But the idea that the rich can buy elections through commercials seems wrong. I think that people just tune out after x number of ads.
state initiatives seem like the best bang for your plutocratic dollar
Also legislators, school regulators, and especially judges, where state laws permit. One of the shocking lessons of watching Dubya and learning about his Texas was just how crazy his state supreme court had gotten.
Yeah, the thing I was REALLY concerned about was Republican voter intimidation efforts–which got lots of play going into Nov 6, but on the actual day, a nothingburger. (Election thugs have to be trained, housed, fed and transported, and someone has to pay for it!) But I surfed the usual-suspect lefty blogs for reports of any real R-thug presence at polling places, and pretty much didn’t find it. Makes me wonder if the vast tidal waves of Republican cash this election season encouraged stupid, nonproductive expenditure at many levels–it would thrill me no end to find out that all the right-wing crackpot money was basically lit on fire and had negligible effect overall.
well it’s not like the Dems didn’t spend a crap load of money too
My parents are in Ohio, and this was exactly what happened not just among them, but (as they tell it) among many of their friends of different partisan stripes. Everybody was sick of the ads, and just tuned them out and voted the same way they would have with or without ads. The PAC funding didn’t change a damn thing for presidential choices. It may matter in other types of races down the road, and I expect those funding PACs to try to make things more “assured” for their own interests in the future. But tonight….this is good news.
I do think there’s a lot to be said for Rick Perlstein’s recent argument that a lot of the lack of expected/foreseeable impact is due to money being hoovered away by grifters. Zealots who are a bit less into mooching on the side can still get a lot done with their money, it’s just that they’re kind of marginal at the movement’s higher levels.
I noticed several graphics last night that said Obama vastly outspent Romney on campaign ads.
But apparently that was just campaign spending not including outside spending, which was heavily Romney.
I think the final split was somewhere around 60-40 Romney.
No question about it, special interest money purchased the charter initiatives in Washington and Georgia. In Washington alone, the charter opponents were outspent 15-1.
Throw all of the money they spend on Senate races, too. They thought they were buying a Republican Senate.
30 million dollars of very rich people’s money dumped into the giant black hole that is Josh Mandel. Tell me again about how Rove is a genius?
He skimmed 10%.
Point.
Only 10%?
Plus the 10% to the Caymans and the other 10% that went to the Swiss account, plus the 10% that went to Sally Ball’s brother.
Rove is not a genius, and anyone who ever said he was is a fool. He’s a sociopath who is able to exploit the giant, grift-laden machine that is movement conservative politics.
That’s definitely genius, in a sociopathic way, of course.
Hip, hip, hooray.
(GOP lies unconscious, twitching on the ground)
Milhous: Hey, I think that they’re becoming a marginalized, regional party with no future demographic or electoral prospects.
Nelson: I *said* “Ha-ha”
Romney’s epidermis is definitely showing.
Mostly, I’m glad that all those pundits who took shots at Nate Silver have to retire now.
Yes, I expect their formal resignations on my desk by this afternoon.
They shall not be seen on my internets again!
Dick Morris is probably so ashamed right now, he’ll never write again.
After the election was called, he didn’t tweet for like 12 straight hours! I was all ready to declare us free of him..but no..like a diseased phoenix, up he rose again.
Imagine all the people crying in their pancakes…
You should add another “Ha” for me. This Republican voted for Obama.
Clearly I was induced to vote against my own interests by the Dems exploitation of social issues…like their criticism of various Repubican pro-rape positions.
You really got me.
We got you so you don’t know what you’re doin.
Who needs wine when you’ve got whine?
Whine is too sweet for my taste.
John Stuart Mill
Joe Donnelly pulled out a win for a Senate seat here in Indiana too. Glad about that, sad to see how thin the margin is. Apparently like 45% of Hoosiers think rape is cool.
I told my wife I didn’t want to live in Indiana anymore, damn.
Good for you Manju!
I wonder what our overconfident trolls will make of this turn of events?
That’s right, we’ll never see them again.
I have the sudden urge to collect all of his/her predictions and weave a tapestry of wrong out of them.
Please oh please.
Seconded!
Thirded.
Will do on the morrow. Have a concession speech to watch now.
Help a brother out, though: list all the names s/he’s posted under. Otherwise I’m going to have to slog aimlessly through thousands upon thousands of comments.
You can maybe accelerate things by searching for mentions of pancakes and other delicious breakfast foodstuffs.
I have mentioned, recently I think, that I’m sometimes I God damned moron, haven’t I?
And/or walruses.
This is great news!
For John McCain!
Sarah Palin the new favorite for 2016
silver!
I feel every bit as happy as I did when this happened.
Their bitter tears are like the sweetest nectar to my lips, their lamentations like the chorus of angels.
I’m going to withhold judgement until UnSkewed Polls dot com weighs in.
tonight’s results will certainly have to affect their projections.
You can’t withhold that which doesn’t exist in the first place, Manju.
May I add a somber “suck my ass”?
Thank god. Though I suppose Obama is going to go celebrate with a couple of drone strikes.
Karl Rove refuses to accept that Ohio should have been called, even though Fox themselves have called it. Very entertaining to hear the rest of Fox News respond to him.
Oh, jeez, Fox News decides that they should interview their “Decision Desk” because Rove is angry. Well and good. But the Desk is down the hall, and the male anchor says that he needs to “escort” the female down the stairs so she doesn’t fall.
Well, the dress code for female presenters on Fox News is not exactly practical. Maybe her heels are especially vertiginous?
What? There’s a Fox anchor who isn’t balanced?
she made up for it with extra fairness
So what’s everyone drinking?
I’ve got some Waupoos here. It’s a Canadian hard cider, very good; crisp, with a strong but pleasing aftertaste. Can’t actually buy it down here, I brought it back from my last drip there.
What all else is everyone throwing back?
Ipswich Ale 5-Mile IPA – all ingredients harvested within 5 miles of my local brewery.
Twice jealous. Nursing a head cold so I can’t drink, and they don’t sell Ipswich Ale out here in SoCal. Have a drink for me.
Done and done. And I do mean done.
Harpoon of all types. Granted, I’m working the night shift there, so have access to the tanks.
Which, I should add, means I have unlimited access to all the beer I can drink, and I’m less than half a mile where Mitt Romney is currently not drinking away his sorrows (at the Boston Convention Center) because his religion doesn’t allow him to drink alcohol.
Wow, sometimes the Lord really does bless brewers.
Do you need an intern?
The 18-year-old Jefferson’s Farley bought for a wedding gift. My better half has some Finger Lakes Distilling Maple Liqueur.
God dammit Scott, two posts in and you win the thread. Give everyone else a chance.
And really, the jewel in Finger Lakes Distilling crown is their Seneca Gin. It’s perfect for martinis; the secret is you leave out the olive, because the gin itself does all the work for you.
Makes a great G&T too. And a Mackenzie Rye manhattan, outstanding.
Courvoisier VSOP. The Frenchiness is my special “Ha ha!” to the Republicans.
Bulleit Rye and Lagunitas IPA, for complicated reasons. Cheers.
Somewhat related, Brown Shugah by Lagunitas.
It packs a punch at 9.9.
Blantons, neat.
2005 vosne romanee, and toting with a slightly elderly colston and bassett Stilton. Oh and I have a still pic of Grayson smirking on the iMac.
Life is good.
Coca-cola cause its 1pm and a bit early to sneak a Toohey’s out of the work fridge.
Coca-cola is Australian slang for… what now?
Some sort of hard liquor you distill out of rocks and kangaroo livers?
Brew made from iron ore fines and sheep gizzards if you must know.
That’s Irn-Bru, Jimmy.
Yuengling. Lots and lots of Yuengling.
Victory Headwaters Pale Ale.
Suntory Yamazaki 12-year .
Applejack and ginger ale.
What?
Some Black Bush that I have been saving for a special occasion.
Ah, the nectar of the Irish.
only the Prods
As an agnostic, I could give a shit about your sectarian quibbles. It simply tastes better.
That’s mizner’s choice as well, I suspect.
Veuve Clicquot Brut. Tasty.
I love that so-yellow-it’s-orange label stuff, but had none on hand.
I uncorked the domestic methode champenoise blanc de noirs that a friend gave me for Christmas — the occasion seemed auspicious.
Deschutes Jubelale.
Good choice.
St. George’s Absinthe with a tiny bit of water to make it cloudy. If I’m gonna be disillusioned, they’re going to have been interesting illusions.
Early Grey tea, seeing as it’s 4pm in Tokyo. I’ll be having whatever goes well with oysters.
Tears. Sweet, sweet, tears.
Elysian Night Owl! Whoo!
Excellent.
Diet tonic water last night before bed, and a mug of coffee with a Morning Thunder(TM) black tea / mate blend this morning. Right now, the entire world is vibrating slightly, and it’s awesome.
A good bourbon I picked up at the duty free.
Started with a nice home brewed brown ale, then martinis (some random not-very-good-gin, unfortunately) and finished up with a Ninkasi Maiden The Shade.
I should have skipped the gin — thankfully wingnut tears are a good hangover cure.
Fox now saying the real message of the election is the need for Democrats to reach across the aisle.
I’m thinking more along the lines of burning the Republican party to the ground, and salting the Old Confederacy with the ashes. I think I like my real message better.
CNN is basically saying the same thing.
This proves we are a center-right nation, or some such horseshit.
Well we did just elect a center-right candidate over a slightly more right of center candidate.
Alternatively, we rather consistently elected the left-most viable candidate.
And if you think Mittens is only slightly more right of center, you really have not been paying attention.
As did Norah O’Donnell, moments after NBC called it for Obama–gosh, it’s now more important than ever for everyone in Washington to work together to do something about the terrible fiscal cliff!!! EEEk!!!! (My contempt for these fatuous assholes knows no bounds.)
And NPR spent all evening making the point that Obama will win by a smaller margin than in 2008, so apparently his re-election is a complete repudiation of his entire first term, as well as his campaign platform in 2012.
Which Democrat will be the first to agree, and on which Sunday morning talk show?
I’m going to go with Tim Kaine on Meet The Press.
Try Claire McCaskill in her victory speech tonight.
However, you can’t say that Tim Kaine represents the Dem leadership… except for those years he ran the DNC.
Well, they could reach across the aisle and beat the Goopers to a bloody pulp.
Romney used the same words in his gracious concession speech. Also, JERB CREATERS.
Indeed. Now Obama has a clear mandate to do whatever Republicans want him too.
Funny how that works.
Shorter CNN: “Look at all those (rural unpopulated) red counties! No mandate! No mandate!”
Can’t we reach across the aisle to punch the Republicans in the face?
What is good in life?
Purging is at last at hand. Day of Doom is here. All that is evil, all their allies; your parents, your leaders, those who would call themselves your judges; those who have lied and corrupted the Earth, they shall all be cleansed.
WRONG!!! – Conan, what is best in life?
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, to hear the lamentations of their women.
*Note – Conan was actually quoting Genghis Khan
I liked the direction Pee Cee took below: “To crush the wingnutes, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of Karl Rove.”
To crush the Republicans, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the wingnuts.
Here’s what commenters are saying at conservative websites:
Goats are the answer. Also:
Yes, you can.
Only everything. But thank you for playing.
Who’s a sore loser? Who is? Who is?
Oh yes you are! Oh yes you are!
Goldstein’s Twitter account is worth reading tonight. Especially when he gets all tough and threatens the people who unfollow him.
After they unfollow him, so they never see the Big Man’s Big Threatening Words.
So, no real cockslapping, just cockwhiffing.
Is he threatening to slap them with his dick?
Thing is, I don’t feel like “WE’VE WON!!” as much as JG et al. feel like “WE’VE LOST!!”, and JG et al. will never believe or understand why that is.
Frankly, I think Victoria Jackson has him beat.
She does win the night for greatest Twitter feed.
Um, wow. Just … wow.
Okay, those wingnut tears are rancid. I shall not drink them.
“In the Good vs. Evil battle…today…Evil won.”
Evil will always triumph because good is dumb
Like chickens can be trained to care for goats.
or pandas not to become homicidal in restaurants.
Please SEK, more like this. I’ve got to get my gloat on.
OK:
Why vote for the Accountants In The Green Visors when you can vote for NEVERLAND!
Speaking as an accountant in a green visor, tax cuts for the wealthy are a shitty strategy for growth. If your mileage varies, that means your mileage is wrong.
Neverland was already sold to pay Michael Jackson’s debts, anyway.
More?
Or:
There are some very fertile fields out there, in which “centrists” like the GOP frolic with minorities who don’t want to open small businesses.
Due to demographics and our persistent cultural changes, the GOP will never again win a national election.
From his mouth to god’s ear.
In what alternate universe is the GOP inching toward the left?
That first one sounds pretty good if we can do something about that consequential poverty.
The weird thing is, half of that rant is half true, except that the party identifiers are 180 degrees reversed. One party lying its head off, the press not calling them on it, the people not calling the press on it, voting for fantasy in preference to reality, one party insinuating itself into the channels of power and constructing an alternate reality…
Maybe it’s an expression of cognitive dissonance, the subconscious realization that the right has been running on fantasy and lies since they turned their back on the Eisenhower wing of the party?
Even more?
If you didn’t guess that was Jeff, you’ve wasted less of your life than I have.
Can we just get on with the gay sharia now?
Atheist gay sharia.
The Trump’s twitter feed was rockin’ too!
Side Note: If any of these Conservatives need help moving out of the country, just leave me a message here. I’ll be happy to enable your departure. You can go to a conservative wonderland like Somalia or Egypt.
Let’s have a whip-round and buy their tickets for them, shall we?
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So, is it wrong of me to enjoy the collective freak out of all those wingnuts on Facebook that just happened to go to the same high school as I did?
Because if that’s wrong, I don’t want to be right…
One of my closest friends from college is now a full on headsplitting screeching wingnut. She hasn’t even managed a muted sob. Just silence.
Give it time. A few of the wingnuts on my Facebook feed are now talking about not paying Federal taxes anymore.
Let’s see how well that works out for them …
Wouldn’t that make them the 47%?
I just looked up the Twitter feed of an old acquaintance who is a rabid wingnut (her twitter is full of articles about how letting women have contraception is anti-feminist and such like).
Out of sheer schadenfreude. And she’s all depressed. MAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA.
I don’t want to be right either. This is earned gloating.
Karl Rove’s on Fox claiming that Ohio may not go to Obama. He’s got his own math. And Romney’s people are not conceding Ohio, no doubt having been in communication with Rove.
I am looking forward to lots of schadenfreude tomorrow. Our house district is still too close to call, but fingers crossed on that one.
I’m having some trouble finding clear reporting on it, but various people are telling me that a slim majority of Puerto Ricans voted to reject their current status quo with the US, and that an overwhelming majority are saying that if the status quo does change, it should be in favor of statehood.
Nothing is certain, of course, but the Union might be expanding for the first time in over fifty years.
Unless I’m wrong on this. Having trouble running down hard numbers.
I’d love to bring Puerto Rican statehood in front of a Republican House. No racism in that debate, none at all.
God, if you let this happen, I will take back everything I’ve said about you over the years.
Mitt Romney drogadicto con cara de idiota
Ganarme esos Grammy’s fue como venirme en tu boca
Eres corrupto tú lo sabes yo no me chupo el dedo
Tienes cara de narcotraficante con miedo
This will be better than when I win the prediction contest.
I actually think that the Republican platform is in favor of Puerto Rican statehood. At least thats what I read on plainblog about politics.
This doesn’t prevent GOP racisim in the statehood debates though.
The chances Republicans would let Puerto Rico in are between zero and zilch. Unless you get a East and West Dakota thrown in as well.
Hm. I’m wondering if the Republicans would actually go for that – admit Puerto Rico as a state, but take an existing Republican stronghold and cut it in half, making it two states.
Probably wouldn’t work in this day and age. And we don’t have any other outstanding territories that would lean Republican these days either.
You can find results on this page if you read Spanish.
Looks like you’re right – most voted against the status quo (“¿De acuerdo con mantener la condición política territorial actual?”) and then of those voters, most voted for statehood (“Opciones de estatus/Estadiad”).
The resolution isn’t binding on the US government obviously, but it will presumably trigger the introduction of a bill to admit PR as the 51st state.
Fuck and Yes.
Yay for The Maths defeating Peggy Noonan’s arbitrary sampling of lawn signs and psychic communion with an imaginary electorate!
I wonder which of my expensive teas I should drink…
Right now Harry Reid should be calling up Mitch McConnell and telling him, either you clear all the appointments hanging fire before Jan 1, or we kill the filibuster in the new Senate.
Only if Harry Reid is planning to screw McConnell and get rid of the filibuster anyhow.
Can he deliver on that?
I dislike much about Reid, but one of his more endearing qualities is that he doesn’t write checks his ass can’t cash. Unless he has 51 firm votes on that, I can’t see him making the threat.
I believe he could convince a sufficient number of Democratic senators to act as if they are about to get rid of the filibuster.
A subject for discuss in the next couple of weeks: what are the acceptable compromises between keeping it or getting rid of it altogether. Are there any?
Not act – could he convince 51 senators to actually vote against the filibuster if McConnell calls him on it?
As I’ve watched him over the years, I’ve come to the conclusion that Harry Reid is not a poker player. He doesn’t bluff. He feints, but he doesn’t bluff. If he gives McConnell an ultimatum like that it means he’s ready to pull the trigger.
The threat is worth the popcorn
Glenlivet Nadurra
Sweet as a Romney concession, strong as an Obama acceptance
Let me be the first to say “Bookmark it, libtards!”
Best wishes to all of you who will be victory dancing into work tomorrow.
ohmygod it’s happening, the worst fever dreams from the conservative swamp are coming true:
there are VUVUZELAS at Obama’s campaign headquarters
America truly is a changed nation, forever
they tried to warn us but we didn’t listen
why oh why didn’t we listen
Obama should have gone all-in and had them play “Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos” in the background.
Not Государственный гимн СССР? (Anthem of the USSR)
“To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women-haters…”
Where is Ghengis Khan when you need him?
Suprise surprise, Jenbob hasn’t decided to show up!
The horror of horrors was the Fox commentators, after throwing Romney under the bus for running a bad campaign, playing up Jeb Bush.
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