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[ 67 ] November 5, 2012 |

This has all the coherence that we’ve come to expect from Major Intellectual Newt Gingrich:

“Once we deal with the issue we’ll have a permanent majority for a generation,” said Gingrich. “But until we do we’re permanently in danger of losing.”

Gingrich’s solution, regardless of whether Romney wins: “It’s going to require Jeb Bush coming to Washington for about six months and working directly with Marco Rubio and building a bipartisan majority. We really need Jeb to live in Washington for six months to get this done.”

In other news, I have an op-ed at Global Times pointing out that it’s never too early to start thinking about 2016. Note that the assumption of an Obama victory was made at GT’s request.

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  1. leinad says:

    Only a Jolie-Damon Administration can guarantee American prosperity in the coming Brazilian Century!

  2. jon says:

    Mars, Bitches! Or was that Moon Base Alpha?

    What’s pretty clear, is that regardless of who’s president, we’ll still have the same vicious, do-nothing House.

  3. TT says:

    Now that’s the ticket: bring in the brother of He Who Shall Not Be Named–that non-conservative, orgiastic-spending, Mexican-loving excuse for a Republican President–to convince the yahooest of the party’s yahoo base to start loving them some brown people. That’ll go over well, especially if they lose. Because if they lose, the party’s sole conclusion will be that it wasn’t anti-Mexican enough.

  4. Memphis Jay says:

    I would just be happy if the Dems remembered that there will be elections in 2014. I really don’t want to live through another 2010.

  5. DrDick says:

    How you manage a permanent majority with a shrinking electoral base would seem to require some kind of Rovian math.

    • Funkhauser says:

      Oh, easy, systematic disenfranchisement and constant harassment of the other party’s base.

    • Malaclypse says:

      No, no, their plan is genius – allow Messicans in as a permanent underclass forever dependent upon the whims of low-wage employers, and the browns will flock to the party of white supremacy out of gratitude for the table scraps.

      That is totally viable, and not at all a way to extend the grift for N. Leroy Gingrich, Definer of Civilization’s Rules and Leader (Perhaps) of the Civilizing Forces.

      • Keaaukane says:

        A good plan, yet it failed in Hawaii. The white plantation owners imported hoards of foreign workers, exploited the Hell out of them, and then expressed shocked dismay when said foreign workers flocked to the Dem party. If you keep immigration illegal but with lax enforcement, you have your low wage workers without an electoral threat to your power.

        • Murc says:

          A good plan, yet it failed in Hawaii.

          Only because of birthright citizenship.

          It worked great in France and Germany; they imported enormous numbers of foreign workers, set their immigration quotas to a point so low its below the yearly birth numbers of said foreign worker communities, and denied their offspring citizenship.

          The result is a permanent underclass of third and fourth generation people who were born in the country and know no other life, but are not citizens and can never become citizens, and therefore never wield political power.

          Even better, you can exploit tension between them and those who ARE born citizens for your own ends!

          Conservatives would love to adopt this plan.

          • Leeds man says:

            are not citizens and can never become citizens

            I’m not sure about France, but that’s certainly not true (any more) in Germany.

            • Uncle Kvetch says:

              It is most definitely not true of France.

              • Murc says:

                … okay, I would love to be wrong about that.

                My understanding is that a lot of ethnic conflict in both France and Germany over the past 15+ years was because they have large populations of people who were born there to permanent-resident foreign-born workers who had zero prospect of citizenship and the privileges it would bring. I take it I’m in error here?

                • Uncle Kvetch says:

                  France and Germany have radically different traditions of citizenship — France’s has long been based on “jus soli” or roughly “birthright by soil.”

                  A child born in France to foreign parents may acquire French citizenship:[3]
                  at birth, if stateless.
                  at 18, if resident in France with at least 5 years’ residence since age 11.
                  at 16 upon request by the child and if resident in France.
                  at 13 upon request by the child’s parents and if resident in France.

                  (Source)

                  Germany traditionally based citizenship on “jus sanguinus,” or “birthright by blood,” so it’s closer to the situation that you describe, but even there it’s not strictly true. I know much less about that so maybe Leeds man can fill in the blanks.

                • Leeds man says:

                  I have no special knowledge. I just looked up nationality requirements. The jus sanguinis has been drastically relaxed.

    • BigHank53 says:

      South Africa pulled it off for years.

  6. Bijan Parsia says:

    What’s the difference between “permanent majority for a generation” and “majority for a generation”? Is he using “permanent” to mean “continuous”? If it’s only for a generation, it’s not, permanent is it?

    So wacked.

  7. arguingwithsignposts says:

    It’s going to require Jeb Bush coming to Washington for about six months and working directly with Marco Rubio and building a bipartisan majority.

    I realize this is just emphasizing the stupidity, but really? How is that even supposed to work? Jeb Bush hypnotizes everyone?

    • Malaclypse says:

      Jeb gets Neil to bring the prostitutes.

    • ADM says:

      6 months must poll well. A Friedman Unit is the required amount of time to solve even eternal problems.

    • Newt Gingrich's Monstrous Ego says:

      Look, it’s a plan, alright? It’s got names in it. It’s got a deadline in it. It’s got shiny words in it. And it got me back where I belong: in front of a TV camera.

      It worked.

    • Quincy says:

      The important thing is that the Democrats don’t get credit for it. Some of the Republicans are figuring out that when Obama pushes an immigration bill, they can’t be seen as being anti-immigration. Instead they’re opposed to Obama’s nasty partisanship, but trust us Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio have something Latinos will like much better. I think the demographic shifts might even be enough to motivate Republicans to sign something if they could get all of the credit for it, though a number of them would have to run the risk of getting primaried on the issue.

    • herr doktor bimler says:

      Surely both sides will sign on to a policy explicitly designed to hand power to the Republican Party for at least a generation.

  8. Warren Terra says:

    it’s never too early to start thinking about 2016.

    I’ve got some deep insights about how the 2024 field is shaping up.

    • “I’ve got some deep insights about how the 2024 field is shaping up.”

      Pfft, piker. I saw a really charming infant in a diaper commercial the other day. S/he’s a shoe-in for the 2056 permanent majority Republitarian-Moon Base party.

  9. LosGatosCA says:

    Gingrich is on such a higher plane than the rest of us mortals that believing you can comprehend his wisdom on a literal basis is futile. Likewise, parsing the words he uses by applying their common definitions is not going to reveal the true power and meaning of his message.

    No, Newt Gingrich is not a mere mortal in developing or communicating his big, overarching ideas. He’s like a wild river running over, around, and through the rocks of life turning into ravaging, white water from sheer force of his intellectual energy.

    Six months. Six months of Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio concentrating their minds like X-men on the key issue facing Republicans. I’d be surprised if the only thing that happened was a ‘permanent majority for a generation.’ It’s conceivable that true existential equilibrium in the economy and post-racial harmony across all meta-religions, creeds, and social classes may occur spontaneously.

    It will be BIG.

  10. Aaron Morrow says:

    Senator Marco Rubio of Florida could offer some hope for recapturing a portion of the growing Latino vote.

    It’s one thing for Newt Gingrich to be unable to see the tension between Marco Rubio and the Mexican-American community, but surely Robert Farley sees this, right?

    I’m thinking Rick Santorum/Ted Cruz for the nomination, myself.

  11. Chatham says:

    I’ve never read the English language version of the Global Times, but the Chinese language version is pretty crazy nationalist. Then again, the things Chinese newspapers say to foreigners tends to be very different from what they say to Chinese.

  12. Scott S. says:

    (pinches JenBob’s cheeks)

  13. parrot says:

    “Once we deal with the issue we’ll have a permanent majority for a generation,”

    perhaps, republicans have decided they are going to self-deport themselves to a moon base where they will enjoy a permanent majority …

  14. Major Kong says:

    I forget who originally said it – but Gingrich sounds like a stupid person’s idea of what a smart person sounds like.

  15. Woodrowfan says:

    can’t he toddle off and become a college president somewhere? Kings College in New York is on the market for a new Prez…

  16. rea says:

    A sane-on-immigration Republican party really would have a greater appeal to hispanics. But then, a sane Republican party would have a greater appeal to just about everyone, other than the Republican base. Fortunately for the Democrats, if not the country, it’s not likely to happen, particularly if the key is a bigger role for Jeb Bush.

  17. STH says:

    I never read Politico–are the articles usually that much of a mess? It looked like the first couple of paragraphs were lopped off and I couldn’t figure out what the point was supposed to be.

    And I agree with rea: you can have sane policies or you can keep the Republican base happy, but you can’t do both. At least Gingrich is recognizing that the base is dying off and they’re going to have to appeal to somebody other than angry old white men.

  18. FLRealist says:

    So, Gingrich thinks Jeb and Rubio can repair in six months what the GOP has worked hard at destroying for years? Hmm, I’m not thinking they’re miracle workers.

    • LosGatosCA says:

      I’m not thinking they’re miracle workers.

      The main fallacy of your point.

      And what do you mean by destruction? They aren’t asked to repair anything, just take it all to a higher dimension than currently attained.

  19. herr doktor bimler says:

    Gingrich’s solution, regardless of whether Romney wins:

    Think what a better position the Republican Party would be in if they had given Gingrich a platform earlier in the year, from which he could have presented his solution to their demographic disadvantage.

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