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In Fairness, Central Kentucky Does Have a Certain French Flavor

[ 44 ] July 27, 2012 | Robert Farley

Peter Berger, via Andrew Gelman:

[New York mayor Michael Bloomberg] resides in his private apartment on the Upper East Side. His co-resident is a woman to whom he is not married—something that he would probably not get away with as mayor in many other American cities. In an international perspective, however, he is in good company—both the current presidents of France and Germany live with similarly non-matrimonial partners. I cannot say whether Bloomberg’s quasi-European lifestyle has anything to do with his idea of New York City as a quasi-European welfare state.

Let me begin by introducing Dr. Berger to Jim Gray, Mayor of Lexington, Kentucky. Let me conclude by asking Dr. Berger to try to wrap his mind around the Honorable Mark Mallory, Mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio.

But then people often mistake central Kentucky and southern Ohio for “quasi-European welfare states.”

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  1. howard says:

    awesome on two levels.

    first, thanks for confirming my long-held belief that there isn’t a more european city in america than cincy!

    second, i thought bloomberg was a job creator and therefore exempt from criticism on the right!

    • CaptBackslap says:

      Bloomberg’s both “centrist” and a creepy authoritarian, and is thus capable of drawing fire from all sides.

      • howard says:

        captbackslap, we’re not talking about what rational people might have to say about bloomberg.

        we’re talking about what right-wingers normally have to say about people who built (all by themselves!) multi-billion dollar businesses.

  2. Malaclypse says:

    I took classes with Peter in grad school. He was then a fairly important figure in the sociology of religion, although it was clear even then (mid-1990s) that his best work was 20 years behind him.

    I’m genuinely sad for him.

  3. Hogan says:

    So he’s just like that other great social democrat, Rudy Giuliani?

    • Sherm says:

      Yeah, good memory. Rudy moved in with openly gay friends after his wife kicked him out of Gracie Mansion. Can you imagine the response if he was a democrat rather than a republican?

    • tech98 says:

      Of course, 9udy Giu11ani married his cousin, which makes him true-blue American to a major portion of the Southern Repuke electorate.

  4. Karate Bearfighter says:

    As long as Jim Gray engages in traditional gay marriage, instead of living in sin with his boyfriend, that’s not European.

    • Robert Farley says:

      It’s common knowledge (with the caveat that common knowledge is often wrong) that Mallory is in a long term relationship with a *white* man. How’s that for some transgression?

  5. John Protevi says:

    This answer on the Mallory link is wonderful:

    Mallory is a snappy dresser, he lives at home, has never been married and enjoys long walks on the beach, but he’s not openly gay.

    Who could fail to be reminded of this?

    Kramer: I thought we were friends…

    Jerry: Here we go…

    Kramer: I mean, how could you two keep this a secret from me?

    Jerry: It’s not true!

    Kramer: Aaaah! Enough lying! The lying is through! C’mon, Jerry, the

    masquerade is over. You’re thin, late thirties, single…

    Jerry: So are you…

    Kramer: Yeah–

  6. dmsilev says:

    In fairness, Kentucky’s liquor production clearly points towards a sympathy for the anicen regime.

  7. firefall says:

    I look forward to sipping a cafe au lait and admiring the locals dressing in dashing berets, swinging their strings of garlic and baguettes, come next Derby Day

    • efgoldman says:

      The New York Derby?

    • Bob Treadway says:

      Uhh, the Derby is in Louisville. The French part of Kentucky is the Central part, with place names like Bourbon and Paris. Heck, we’ve even got wineries now.

      As to the berets, eh, maybe not.

      • Stag Party Palin says:

        French, mon petit ane blanc! My sister lives in Versales (no it’s not spelled that way, but try saying it in French and they’ll shove a Big Gulp up your nose).

      • Woodrowfan says:

        they smoke as much as the French do too….

  8. rea says:

    How I long for the day when people disapprove of a politician for living with his boyfriend without marrying him!

  9. Ken Houghton says:

    “people often mistake central Kentucky and southern Ohio for ‘quasi-European welfare states.’”

    Well, quasi-welfare states , at least.

  10. Randy Paul says:

    Not to mention the mayor of Houston, TX, that hotbed of European wlefare statism.

  11. burritoboy says:

    I know we’re a den of Satanic sinful communist breakerism, but here in San Francisco, we’ve had one mayor think it was a good idea to have himself photographed showering naked with DJs (Frank Jordan), the following mayor (Willie Brown)…….well, we’ll leave that one alone and the next mayor decided it was a great idea to have an affair with his campaign manager’s wife (Newsom). Oy.

  12. Walt says:

    Warren Buffett lives with his wife and his long-term girlfriend, and that’s in Omaha.

    • efgoldman says:

      The very rich are different from you and me.

    • elm says:

      The three never lived together. His long-time girlfriend (and now second wife after the first wife died) moved in after his wife left.

      Although, the first wife apparently introduced the two of them so that Warren would have someone once she left. And, Christmas cards from Warren were signed by all three of them, according to Wikipedia, which is kind of odd.

      • howard says:

        warren’s first wife wanted to pursue a career as a singer and moved to san francisco, and it was all very amicable, civilized, and, dare i say, european! i suspect part of why they didn’t divorce had to do with property issues, but who knows?

        anyhow, much as i’d like to believe omaha was a hotbed of menage-a-troisdom, this isn’t an instance of it.

  13. 'stina says:

    The mayor of Houston lives with someone she’s not married to. For 21 years now, this scandal has been going on.

  14. Auguste says:

    The mayor of reasonably shit-kicking Silverton, OR is Stu Rasmussen, who is transgender – and was re-elected after identifying as such for the first time.

    • James says:

      Fucking hell. In Silverton? That is really hard to believe, although kind of awesome. Granted, he’s clearly some kind of libertarian.

      (FWIW, I grew up in Sublimity, which is a four way stop a couple of miles from Stayton).

  15. Stag Party Palin says:

    I don’t know why, but reading about all these people has given me an attack of irrational exuberance. A nice way to end the week.

    • howard says:

      stag party palin, i’m with you: i had no idea, and vardibidian’s posting on hartford, below, suggests that there are probably other examples that aren’t generally known outside of their immediate community.

  16. Vardibidian says:

    No respect for Hartford, eh? I thought not.

    Thanks,
    -V.

  17. Bloix says:

    Also the Governor of Maryland – twenty-five years ago.

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