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Should the National Review Fire the Derb?

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I’m not sure why; he’s been what his latest racist post says he is for a long time (see also his claim that only “Christian Anglo-Saxon men” are capable of government.)

And of course he’s part of a grand National Review tradition. No need to stop now.

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  • A racist at the National Review? That’s like saying there’s a racist at a Klan rally.

    • JupiterPluvius

      Yes, I thought racism was considered a feature, not a bug, over there.

      Derbyshire is vile.

  • Craigo

    If they’re not going to fire him for openly musing on his sexual desire for children (which I believe that the NRO staff do not share), then I don’t see why they’d fire him for publicly saying something with which they probably all privately agree.

    • What a terrible slander. Ephebephiles everywhere are sick and tired of being lumped in with those pervert pedophiles. The Derb won’t plow the field until the grass has started to sprout.

      Say what you will, at least it’s an ethos.

      • R Johnston

        Derbyshire analysis lumps ephebephiles in with racists, not pedophiles. Racist Derbyshire fans can remain confident that they’re better than pedophiles, though not a lot better than pedophiles, so long as they don’t espouse the rape of black children as an advancement of the common good.

  • Barry Freed

    Fuck no, promote him, fire Lowry and make Derb the editor-in-chief.

    Or as Mark F. said in the other thread:

    William F. Buckley must be spinning in his grave.

    I mean, what with one of his writers saving his best material for other pages.

    • Charlie Sweatpants

      “Fuck no, promote him,”

      Amen. It’s the same with Augusta not having any XX members. If they’re too clueless to know how embarrassing that is, why should we help them out? Fuck ’em.

    • Malaclypse

      “Derb, I’d like to remind you that you signed a non-compete when you came on board here at NR. We take non-competes very seriously. You can’t be a total asshole at competing outlets again.”

  • Whether they fire him or not, the internet should make an effort to archive his words for easy reference any time a conservative declares that racism isn’t a real problem in contemporary American culture.

    • gmack

      I’m not sure that this evidence would prove what you’re hoping it would. Conceptually speaking, the word racism in our language now refers to a moral failing, or, say, to a deep-seated dislike of Black people. Once it takes on that meaning, it is always possible–even in the Derbyshire post–to claim that one isn’t really racist. ‘Cause, after all, he doesn’t personally hate Black people. He’s just following the statistics, and he has Black friends, and other Black people agree with him, or whatever. The reductio ad absurdum for this is the story from Georgia a few years back about a justice of the peace who refused to marry interracial couples. I recall that he claimed he wasn’t racist; he had nothing against Black people at all. He just thought it was wrong for the races to mix. My point, anyway, is that once racism becomes understood as a individual moral failure or internal system of beliefs (as opposed to a social, cultural, or political system), such a claim ends up being perfectly consistent. (To be sure, it’s almost certainly false; there are lots of people, Derbyshire included, who are racists even in the sense that the term is usually used, though they rarely admit as much. But my point is that I’m not sure how useful it is for those of us trying to fight against racism to get stuck in these sorts of debates).

      Or shorter me: I believe our political culture would be much better off if we stopped treating racism as a moral problem and started thinking about it in political terms.

      • snurp

        As I recall, that justice was so generous that he allowed his black friends to use his toilet! The one in the house, even!

        No, really.

      • efgoldman

        ‘Cause, after all, he doesn’t personally hate Black people. He’s just following the statistics, and he has Black friends, and other Black people agree with him, or whatever.

        He can’t possibly be racist; he owns four vehicles, and all the tires on all the cars are black.

        • c u n d gulag

          No one ever ‘tires’ of that old joke!

        • blowback

          How do you know they aren’t whitewalls?

      • Seems to me that Derb has provided (another) reductio of that account of racism.

      • Ben Hosen

        Or shorter me: I believe our political culture would be much better off if we stopped treating racism as a moral problem and started thinking about it in political terms.

        Yes, exactly.

      • jdmagness

        You’re absolutely right. Tugging this piece out will prove nothing, since it will be claimed it’s a semi-satirical (but “objective” and “true”) response to the “racism” of leftist black commentators who write about “the talk” they’ve given their children. The right has successfully appropriated the term racism to mean any discussion of race whatsoever–any discussion, that is, of social and institutional racial inequality. Discussing “the facts” of pseudo-science, cherry-picked anecdote and gerrymandered statistics to prove that racial inequality is natural–this is not racist. It is “objectively true.” And then, there’s always the rejoinder, “well, why don’t you move to a black neighborhood, then?”

  • Yes, they should fire him. If the fact that something has been tolerated for a long time was an argument to keep tolerating it, there’d be no progress at all.

    • MAJeff

      Why would National Review support progress?

      • laura

        Standing atop history yelling “******!”

        • laura

          Ugh. “athawrt” not “atop”.

          • Bill Murray

            or athwart even. the edit function abides

            • gocart mozart

              Derb is merely a standing ass wart yelling.

              • R Johnston

                Standing?

                Derbyshire has never, in his entire life, not been straining to lick his own balls. If he could do that while standing he wouldn’t be employed where he is.

                • JupiterPluvius

                  Assumes facts not in evidence: I refuse to believe that Derb has balls.

                • R Johnston

                  Just because he strains to lick them doesn’t mean they’re there. Phantom limb syndrome is real, unlike the Derb’s delusions about people having more melanin than he has.

                • Rarely Posts

                  If he was capable of actually licking his own balls, it would be the first kinda cool and not entirely disgusting thing that he has ever done.

                • joe from Trowell

                  If he was capable of actually licking his own balls, it would be the first kinda cool and not entirely disgusting thing that he has ever done.

                  That is so not true.

                  (I think he’s the one with the striped shirt.)

      • Why would National Review support progress?

        They don’t. We do.

        If someone tries to stand athwart history yelling Stop, it’s the job of us being thwarted to gently but firmly keep them moving.

    • laura

      Agreed.

  • Holden Pattern

    I fear I don’t understand the question. If the staff of the National Review were not already willing to leap off a cliff en masse carrying the laptops, crayons, and pails of feces that they use to ply their trade, why would this particular debacle move them to action?

  • I do think the National Review expects a little bit more of a velvet glove over the iron fist. Sure you can be racist but this blatant?

  • DrDick

    Given that their founder wrote this:

    The central question that emerges . . . is whether the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not prevail numerically? The sobering answer is Yes – the White community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race. It is not easy, and it is unpleasant, to adduce statistics evidencing the cultural superiority of White over Negro: but it is a fact that obtrudes, one that cannot be hidden by ever-so-busy egalitarians and anthropologists.

    […]

    National Review believes that the South’s premises are correct. It is more important for the community, anywhere in the world, to affirm and live by civilized standards, than to bow to the demands of the numerical majority. Sometimes it becomes impossible to assert the will of a minority, in which case it must give way, and the society will regress; sometimes the numerical minority cannot prevail except by violence: then it must determine whether the prevalence of its will is worth the terrible price of violence.

    I would expect them to promote him to editor in chief.

    • rea

      whether the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not prevail numerically? The sobering answer is Yes

      Note that “such measures as are necessaary to prevail” is a euphemism for lynching.

      • Pith Helmet

        or civil war. or segregation.

        • In this case I am pretty sure he is talking about segregation and denying voting rights to African-Americans.

          • DrDick

            By means of lynchings, assassinations, church bombings, and “such measures as are necessaary to prevail”.

  • Joe Bohemouth

    Can someone link to where Derb talks about his sexual attraction to minors? I know I am a bad human being for wanting to read it…

    • wjts

      If you really want to see it, buddy, who am I to stop you? (Scroll down to “Jennifer’s bristols” – if you dare.)

      • Scott Lemieux
      • Malaclypse

        Link seems to have been purged.

      • gocart mozart

        Also this:

        Well, very interesting things are happening on the British (and European — but I’ll stick with Britain) Far Right. The most interesting is, they have dropped anti-Semitism. On a word-association test with “Far Right,” a lot of people — including, I think, most of my NR colleagues — would come up with “anti-Semitism” as a first response. This is now seriously out of date. In Britain, the old street-fighting, Jew-baiting National Front has morphed into a collar-and-tie party named the BNP — that is, British National party. Nick Griffin, the BNP head, has been conducting a purge of Stalinesque ruthlessness against the old anti-Semitic National Front types. FrontPageMag’s Robert Locke tells the story here. All the BNP’s xenophobic propaganda is now concentrated against Muslims. Jews are O.K., on the principle that my enemy’s enemy is my friend.

        (I note en passant that Jared Taylor, who runs the white-nationalist American Renaissance magazine and website, is way ahead of the game here. For years Jared has been responding to questions about what he thinks of Jews with a cheery: “They look white to me!”)

        This stuff bears watching. The Far Right may not be your cup of tea; but they’re out there, and with intelligent leadership, a tailwind of economic disgruntlement, and the dawning realization among white people in the West that they have, by foolish policies, made themselves into a minority in their own countries, outfits like the BNP might very well become a prominent force in public affairs in the 21st century.

        • wjts

          In Britain, the old street-fighting, Jew-baiting National Front has morphed into a collar-and-tie party named the BNP…

          If your principal problem with Oswald Mosley was his lack of a classy-looking tie, the BNP has news for you!

        • R Johnston

          The Republican party hasn’t dropped antisemitism in the slightest. It’s just adopted the practice of mindlessly accusing people who oppose Likudnik right-wing lunacy of being anti-semites regardless of things like facts.

          The BNP and the Republican party are, of course, exactly the same thing.

        • herr doktor bimler

          If your principal problem with Oswald Mosley was his lack of a classy-looking tie, the BNP has news for you!

          The trouble with you, Spode, is that just because you have succeeded in inducing a handful of half-wits to disfigure the London scene by going about in black shorts, you think you’re someone. You hear them shouting “Heil, Spode!” and you imagine it is the Voice of the People. That is where you make your bloomer. What the Voice of the People is saying is: “Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?”

          • John Dirtyshire

            Heil Spode!!!!!1!

          • pete

            PGW FTW

  • jhe

    a long breakdown of all of the important lessons he has taught his children

    Holy crap, he has children?

    • R Johnston

      He has “children” he “mentors” if you want to abuse the English language beyond the capability of scare quotes to convey sarcastic disgust.

      • Spud

        “Mentoring” in the same sense it is used by priests when discussing their activities with altar boys.

  • Rarely Posts

    “A small cohort of blacks—in my experience, around five percent—is ferociously hostile . . . .”

    1) I’m surprised that, in his experience, only 5% of any random population sample is ferociously hostile towards him. I would have estimated the number as around 50%, with the remaining 50% bored/unaware of his presence.

    2) As a white guy who has spent 24 years of life in majority black municipalities, I can only think about 10 black individualstotal who have reacted to me in a truly hostile manner, and most of them were expressing homophobic views (in contrast, I’ve encountered far more white individuals who have reacted hostilely towards me, but I’d tend to attribute that to Republicanism).

    • R Johnston

      I’m surprised that he can claim with a straight face to have encountered 20 or more black people in his life. 5% is an innumerate proclamation absent such being the truth and Derbyshire prides himself on his alleged numeracy.

      • c u n d gulag

        They ones he did meet were either servants in the mansions of the very rich, or working in the service industry in some capacity.

        Or, people like Ron Christie, Herman Cain, and Allen West, who sold their souls for small shares in the company store.

        • JupiterPluvius

          The wingers’ Official Black Friends like Sowell and Connerly.

    • I won’t go back, but weren’t most of his “evidential” links to particular incidents rather than stats, even when he was claiming statistical reasoning?

      • tsam100

        He gives more evidential links than any commenter here who dispute his claims by nothing else other than acting shocked and deeming him racist, Bijan.

        Why don’t you something from his list and provide evidence that it’s either a) wrong, or b)racist.

        Like, perhaps, would you tell your kids to disregard the murder of two men who wandered into a black neighborhood outside Sarasota at 2:00 in the morning, that that was nothing to worry about?

        • Pith Helmet

          Like, perhaps, would you tell your kids to disregard the murder of two men a black kid in a hoodie who wandered into a black white neighborhood … that that was nothing to worry about?

          FTFY

          • Pith Helmet

            Also, too, I wouldn’t recommend my kids wander into ANY neighborhood at 2 a.m.

            • tsam100

              Are you pretending to be naive, or just avoiding the question because you don’t have a logical response, or even one back by statistics like you expect from Derbyshire? If one of those two men were your son and and had survived the multiple gunshot wounds to his chest and spine, would you reason that it happened because he wondered into “a” neighborhood at 2:00 in the morning and let it go at that? Bringing in evidence, or stats, or logic to your advice or reasoning as to how and why it happened would only be racist to even mention, right?

              • joe from Lowell

                Bringing in evidence, or stats, or logic to your advice or reasoning as to how and why it happened would only be racist to even mention, right?

                Only if you attributed it to race. Duh.

          • tsam100

            No, I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t tell my kids what Derbyshire said he would tell his kids. That’s not my point. My point was that you’re on a high horse looking down on someone, and you provide no better evidence or stats to declare him wrong than he does to make his point. You just declare him wrong on the basis that you think he’s racist and you think that’s enough to prove your point.

            • joe from Lowell

              But, you see, extrapolating to individual persons from broad generalizations is prejudice, even if those broad generalizations have statistical support behind your aggregate claims. I’m an upper-middle-class white heterosexual Christian. If you therefore assume that I share your wingnut politics, based on a statistical analysis of people in my demographic group, you are engaging in prejudiced, stereotypical thinking.

              Sort of like Derb.

              I can tell the difference between a good neighborhood and a bad neighborhood, and my kids will be able to, too. They will be able to do so a whole lot better than John Derbyshire’s kids. He’s teaching them to ignore important information, and base their decisions about personal safety on much less important information.

        • Rarely Posts

          Also, racism means: “1: poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race” and “2: the belief that some races of people are better than others.”

          He advocates making a black friend so that one can use them as an “amulet,” he advocates avoiding black people, he advocates treating black people worse (don’t be the good Samaritan for a black person),* and he openly expresses the belief that blacks are less intelligent than other races. The post is racist! To suggest otherwise is to do violence to the English language. You don’t need any evidence beyond the text itself and a dictionary.

          *I also really like the Good Samaritan rule because it perfectly captures one of the core Republican attitudes towards religion–moral and social obligations do not apply with respect to nonwhites. Hence, they hate government social services, in part, because they provide for the needy of all races.

        • He gives more evidential links

          His links are not evidential.

          The link to his post suffices to demonstrate his racism.

          Claims of statistical reasoning which are backed up by anecdotes are self-refuting.

          Plus, clearly you have problems! Racism curious, maybe? I recommend backing away quickly.

          • R Johnston

            Claims of statistical reasoning which are backed up by anecdotes are self-refuting.

            It’s worse than that. They’re not just self-refuting; they’re lies. The Derb certainly knows enough to be able to distinguish anecdote from data, and the links he provides are lies presented in the hopes that either his readership won’t understand the difference or won’t click through.

          • tsam100

            I’m asking you to explain yourself, Bijan, in the same way you expect Derbyshire to explain himself. Explain how he is wrong.

            • You’re demanding some sort of statistic regarding those who DON’T get attacked when among black people? I can supply the required amount of anecdotes to offset Derbyshire’s, as can many millions of other people who aren’t crazy. BUT Bijan’s supplied the response: the anecdotal argument is not an argument. There’s no reason to take it seriously.

              • tsam100

                What, SubMac??? You think his response “Claims of statistical reasoning which are backed up by anecdotes are self-refuting.” is sufficient enough to label him a racist?

                Statistics prove that it’s not wise for two drunk white guys to wander shirtless into an African-American neighborhood at 2:00 in the morning. Logic proves it. Common sense proves it. What you and Bijan are saying is that it’s racist to even think that is true and even more racist to tell your child to be aware of that fact.

                • A warped, wingnut version of “common sense” proves that racism is good! Therefore, it’s not racist to be racist! QED, libz!

                • joe from Lowell

                  You think his response “Claims of statistical reasoning which are backed up by anecdotes are self-refuting.” is sufficient enough to label him a racist?

                  No, his obvious racism is enough to label him a racist. His depiction of black people as stupid and violent is enough to label him as a racist. His admonition to avoid being around black people, and to avoid providing them with assistance, is enough to label him a racist.

                  He, and you, attempted to argue against this obvious conclusion by brining in shoddy statistics and anecdata. Substance Mac’s observation about the useless of anecdata isn’t mean to be evidence of Derbyshire’s racism; it’s meant to demolish your argument that we should ignore the evidence of his racism.

                • If someone makes negative generalizations about a group of people categorized by race, and claims to be doing so based on statistical reasoning, and that statistical reasoning is immediately, obviously, overwhelming shoddy, then that is, in fact, sufficient to demonstrate racism on that person’s part.

            • Slowly, once more: If you claim to be doing statistical reasoning and provide as your evidence individual cases, you have shown that you aren’t doing statistical reasoning.

              • tsam100

                Derbyshire didn’t claim to be providing you with statistical reasoning. He told you what he would say to his children.

                You fault him for not providing statistical reasoning, yet you provide none yourself.

                That’s cowardly on your part.

                • joe from Lowell

                  Derbyshire didn’t claim to be providing you with statistical reasoning.

                  (5) As with any population of such a size, there is great variation among blacks in every human trait (except, obviously, the trait of identifying oneself as black). They come fat, thin, tall, short, dumb, smart, introverted, extroverted, honest, crooked, athletic, sedentary, fastidious, sloppy, amiable, and obnoxious. There are black geniuses and black morons. There are black saints and black psychopaths. In a population of forty million, you will find almost any human type.

                  Assuming your encounters are random—for example, not restricted only to black convicted murderers or to black investment bankers—the Law of Large Numbers will inevitably kick in. You will observe that the means—the averages—of many traits are very different for black and white Americans, as has been confirmed by methodical inquiries in the human sciences.

                  (7) Of most importance to your personal safety are the very different means for antisocial behavior, which you will see reflected in, for instance, school disciplinary measures, political corruption, and criminal convictions.

                  (11) The mean intelligence of blacks is much lower than for whites. The least intelligent ten percent of whites have IQs below 81; forty percent of blacks have IQs that low. Only one black in six is more intelligent than the average white; five whites out of six are more intelligent than the average black. These differences show in every test of general cognitive ability that anyone, of any race or nationality, has yet been able to devise. They are reflected in countless everyday situations.

                  Derbyshire didn’t claim to be providing you with statistical reasoning.

                • tsam100

                  Which of those statements do your refute, joe.

                  Please show your homework.

                • joe from Lowell

                  What statements?

                  Derbyshire didn’t claim to be providing you with statistical reasoning, so there can’t be any statements for me to refute.

                  So, for now, I’m just going to stick with refuting your immediate claim.

                • Anonymous

                  We’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when,
                  But I know we’ll meet again, some sunny day.
                  Keep smiling through, just like you always do,
                  ‘Til the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away.

                • Anonymous

                  We’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when,
                  But I know we’ll meet again, some sunny day.
                  Keep smiling through, just like you always do,
                  ‘Til the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away.

                • joe from Lowell

                  Please, troll, tell us some more about the differences between Cambodians and “blacks.”

                  We don’t even need to get into a discussion of how ever class I teach has several black students, or how Cambodians aren’t a majority in any of them. Or even the notion that I find myself “having to teach” minority students, as if it wasn’t my decision and fervent desire to teach in a diverse environment.

                  I just want to hear about how “hilarious” it is to think “having to teach Cambodians is the same as teaching blacks.” Perhaps you could share your experience as a teacher, and as someone with broad experience with those populations.

                  Do tell. I’m sure everyone would find it quite enlightening.

                • Anonymous

                  We’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when,
                  But I know we’ll meet again, some sunny day.
                  Keep smiling through, just like you always do,
                  ‘Til the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away..

                • joe from Trowell

                  Ya see, ya see, the blacks, ya see, they’re all like, “Yo, honky, gib me dat muthafuckin’ ice tea,” ya see, while the Cambodians, ya see, they’re all like “Ah, most honalable teacher, prease to assign more math homework.”

                  I swear to God I have statistical evidence to back this up. Address my argument, libs!

                • joe from Trowell

                  WWhat percentage of your class is black?

                  EEnough to mmake you soil your sself.

                  Its well known southeast asians have higher IQs than blacks…

                  Lol @ IQ.

                  …and do better in just about every conceivable socioeconomic measure aside from the first generation when they come from dirt poor poverty (real poverty, not American “poverty”).

                  Yeah, no, you don’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about.

                • Trowell

                  I see what you did there.

                • Anonymous

                  We’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when,
                  But I know we’ll meet again, some sunny day.
                  Keep smiling through, just like you always do,
                  ‘Til the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away.

                • joe from Trowell

                  Hogan,

                  The other day, I had to tell a kid – Vietnamese, I think – not to say “Nigga, I ain’t playin’!” to hie Puerto Rican friend during recess.

                  Yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy Lowell!

                • joe from Trowell

                  Dear Troll,

                  When you find yourself getting all wound up and littering your comments with exclamation points, when you’re supposed to be trolling someone, UR NOT DOIN IT RITE.

                • Anonymous

                  We’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when,
                  But I know we’ll meet again, some sunny day.
                  Keep smiling through, just like you always do,
                  ‘Til the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away.

                • joe from Trowell

                  Awesome. Now do cranial bumps.

                • tsam100

                  Ha, joe from Lowell providing individual cases to prove statistical evidence. Exactly what he’s arguing against!

                  Sublime.

                • Anonymous

                  Joe, why does Shanghai have the highest PISA scores in the world? Why is the top 10 filled with places like South Korea, Singapore, Finland, and Sweden? Why do white Americans, despite the USA’s mediocre overall score, do just as well as the top European nations when taken as a separate group? Why do mestizos and blacks have scores which so closely align with their ancestral homelands? Show your work, please.

                • joe from Trowell

                  Ha, joe from Lowell providing individual cases to prove statistical evidence. Exactly what he’s arguing against!

                  Sublime.

                  I’m glad you’re enjoying yourself.

                  I can’t even tell what comment you’re talking about.

                  It really annoys the hell out of you people that I teach in a multi-racial classroom and don’t see your little pet theories holding up, doesn’t it?

                  Good. It gives me a little extra fire in the belly to know that.

                  Piss off, trolls.

                • joe from Trowell

                  And who the hell writes:

                  Show your work, please?

                  Really?

                • tsam100

                  No, joe, we laugh that you pretend to freak out at Derbyshire, yet you can’t explain in comprehensible terms why he’s so wrong.

                  He should be fired, but you can’t explain why, he just should be. And you’re the tolerant one. You’re the principled one.

                  Just cuss and spit and call someone else a racist and pretend you’ve somehow made a solid case simply because you’re angry.

                • tsam100

                  And who the hell writes:

                  Show your work, please?

                  Really?

                  Bijan Parsia did. That’s exactly what he faulted Derbyshire for not doing.

                  And you you backed him up on it.

                  Your outrage isn’t very convincing, you know that?

                • He claimed that his points were based on statical reasoning and primarily gave links to anecdotes. It doesn’t matter who he’s addressing.

                  I did provide some statistical reasoning of the form “generalization from anecdotes is not a basis for statistical generalization”. But, that’s correct statistical reasoning.

                  And I don’t think you understand what “cowardly” means.

                  Thanks to Joe for supplying the examples of claims of statistical reasoning.

                  BTW, this behavior (defending (crappily) the indefensible) you’re engaging in is, itself, racist.

                • joe from Trowell

                  you can’t explain in comprehensible terms why he’s so wrong.

                  Nobody else seems to be having any trouble comprehending it. Just you – the same guy who didn’t think Derbyshire was using statistical evidence. That officially makes your incomprehension Not My Problem.

                  Just cuss and spit and call someone else a racist and pretend you’ve somehow made a solid case simply because you’re angry.

                  Angry? Darling, you’re sport.

              • DrDick

                Must be a slow day over at Stormfront. You would think that they would have a cross burning or a lynching to attend to. Sadly, it is dumb ass crackers like our trolls here that give white trash a bad name and they can kiss my hairy white hillbilly ass.

  • Murc

    What’s really galling is that many people here in the commentariat, and the bulk of our hosts, make their living in the same way that John Derybyshire does; with the power of their words and analyses.

    John Derbyshire is almost certainly paid more than they are.

    Much, MUCH more.

    • All the offal you can eat, from what I understand.

      • DrDick

        I heard it was the, shall we say “byproducts” of the offal they got to eat.

  • Morzer

    John Derbyshire no longer eats at restaurants – because he might be forced to share his space with a chocolate… gateau.

    • R Johnston

      Derb’s a yellow kinda capitalist hater who prefers lemon to chocolate.

      • Bill Murray

        I think he prefers white chocolate

  • grouchomarxist

    Give the guy his Super-Sekrit Neighborhood Watch badge, decoder ring and Glock: He’s ready!

  • herr doktor bimler

    Is this a reaction on Derbyshire’s part to the killing of Trayvon Martin? An attempt to argue that Zimmerman was *statistically* correct to have stalked and shot the dark-skinned intruder in the nice neighbourhood, even if in this particular case he was an innocent member of a family there?

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  • Could someone please ask Mitt Romney if he agrees with John Derbyshire’s opinions?

    • tsam100

      Could someone please ask Barack Obama why he feels Augusta National should allow women members when he never plays golf with women?

      • Professor Fate

        well given the GOP’s Attempt to turn anything Obama does into some kind of scandal – his playing golf with a woman would start the “Obama is cheating on his wife like Clinton did” whispers going.

        • tsam100

          Right, Professor, imagine if he asked Michelle Obama to play with him and invited another couple to make a foursome.

          Do you really think he has to worry about that turning into some sort of scandal?

          He comments on Augusta National’s not inviting any women to join while at the same knows he doesn’t play golf with women, yet you think he disregards the overt hypocrisy of his statement because the downside of having asked a women to play along with him is that it would start a scandal?

          Do you really think that qualifies as sound reasoning on a website populated with lawyers?

          • Google Melody Barnes. 2009, first woman in the Presidential foursome. They probably announced it in response to right wing caterwauling at the time about who cares what. As with the birther banshees, only the right wingers have failed to accept that this is a 4 year old nontroversy. The rest of the world has moved on, son. Deal.

        • Jay C

          his playing golf with a woman would start the “Obama is cheating on his wife like Clinton Tiger Woods did” whispers going.

          Fixt for racial clarity….

      • Pith Helmet

        Could someone please ask Barack Obama why he feels Augusta National should allow women members when he never plays golf with women?

        You have evidence of this?

        • mingo

          Racist troll is JAQing off.

        • DrDick

          Evidence? We don’t need on evidence! We are wingnuts and we have the word of Dawg!

      • R Johnston

        Tedious tendentious troll is tedious and tendentious.

        I’m sorry that your mother didn’t feed you enough pie when you were growing up, but please stop taking out your resulting bitter hatred on the rest of the universe.

        KTHXBYE

      • joe from Lowell

        Perhaps because, unlike the management of Augusta, he doesn’t know any women who play golf?

        • tsam100

          Oh, but he does though, joe. He does.

          And it’s not like a woman would have to worry about how good her game is to play with him, as Obama’s got a handicap that would be up in the high 20’s if he carried one.

          Do you seriously think it’s the case that he doesn’t know any women who play? Or that he’s asked plenty of women to play but they’ve all demured?

          Obama stated that he thinks Augusta should allow women as members, but it’s their right not to. How bold of him. I guess it’s his right not to ask women to play golf with him, too, and we should just leave it at that.

          • joe from Lowell

            ….and has already been pointed out to you, he plays golf with them.

            I was simply pointing out the hole in your logic, trying to equate the habits of an individual with those of a large organization.

            You do seem to have quite a bit of trouble with that distinction, as I’ve explained elsewhere on this thread.

          • Spud

            Augusta should allow women as members, but it’s their right not to

            And its their right to invite whatever criticism such a sexist policy will bring.

            Just as it was the Derb’s right to write such stupid racist nonsense. Its the right of everyone else to make fun of it and the people who support such things as being ignorant racist trolls.

            Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean one should or that it can be defended as a proper course of action.

            Btw nobody has to disprove any of the racist bullcrap Derbs said. There was no claim proven from the outset. It was obviously written to appeal to those who agree with the POV of Stormfront, but don’t want people to see the site on their browser history.

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