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Game 7!

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I don’t see the Rangers recovering from last night, but then lots of unlikely things have happened in this Series.  Consider this an open thread for game seven of the World Series.

…[SL]:  I’d like to think that this would discredit the IW-the-bases-loaded play, but nothing ever does.

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  • We don’t yet know about how the Rangers’ pitching staff will respond, but I think the hitters are over it.

  • Scott Lemieux

    If we’ve learned anything recently, it’s that Ron Washington is a bad manager — ipso facto! — because he bats Josh Hamilton in the middle of the lineup.

    Obviously, easy to say now but I don’t really buy the momentum theory. The ’75 Reds won. The ’91 Braves lost but in 10 innings. The 1986 Red Sox were up 3-0 going into the 6th. The only team to be blown out after blowing a Game 6 was the ’85 Cardinals, and they were throwing a finesse pitcher for the 3rd time against the Cy Young winner.

    • Robert Farley

      Was Jesus responsible for that double?

    • strannix

      they were throwing a finesse pitcher for the 3rd time against the Cy Young winner

      That doesn’t sound completely unlike tonight. Granted, Harrison’s only going his second time, but he got shelled the first time. And Carpenter’s only a former Cy Young winner, who didn’t have a particularly good year, but I don’t see how anyone would say that the matchup is anything but a huge advantage for Texas.

      As for the momentum theory, there’s also the 2002 Giants, who blew a 5-0 lead late in Game 6 and were never really in Game 7 after falling behind early. And of course the 2003 Cubs, which wasn’t a World Series but, well, you know.

      I wonder how the Momentum Theory plays out in other sports. It sure hasn’t been kind to baseball teams in Game 7 after particularly crushing defeats.

    • R Johnston

      Washington’s a bad manager because, among other things, he bats Elvis Andrus second while Napoli is relegated to the seven hole. Batting one of your two best hitters in the seven spot and your worst hitter second is, shall we say, not very smart.

      • Scott Lemieux

        Except, again, that all the evidence suggests that the difference is negligible over 162 games, let alone 7.

        • R Johnston

          The difference small, but it isn’t zero. Over the course of a season it might be as much as a win or two. In any event, when an advantage is free you take it, even if it’s a small one. Batting Napoli seventh and Andrus second is like an NFL coach telling his team’s opponents that they can take the ball at the 21 yard line after a touchback. It probably won’t make a difference, but it’s a clear cut firing offense anyway.

          • CJR

            But the guy’s name is Elvis! I think that has to pay off at some point, and pay off big.

          • Scott Lemieux

            it’s a clear cut firing offense anyway.

            If you’re the owner of a Strat-O-Matic league, yes.

        • strannix

          This is true, but the question remains: why would you work to give Andrus more at-bats than Napoli? I can believe that this more or less evens out over a 162 game schedule, but especially in a one-game-take-all situation, aren’t you looking for any potential advantage you can get?

  • Scott Lemieux

    I said that Kinsler shouldn’t have gone to Lonnie Smith Baserunning camp…

  • Matt Harrison inspires a lot of confidence….

    • davenoon

      He’s fucking worthless.

      • strannix

        No he’s not – he’s a guy who had a pretty good year in the back end of the rotation. That’s not worthless.

        He’s just not good enough for this situation.

        • davenoon

          …..aaaaaaaaaaand with that HBP I’m done with baseball for the year. Jimminy goddamn christmas.

  • efgoldman

    If you had told my 15, or 25, or 35, or even 45-year-old self that my 65-year-old self would watch only game seven of a terrific WS, we all would have scoffed (after we broke the time-travel paradox, of course). But that’s where I am.
    And I’m not even sure I’m going to stay with it, at 2-2 in the third.
    It does appear to me that both teams started pretty tight. Don’t know why they wouldn’t.

    • efgoldman

      Don’t care who plays there, I think and have always thought that home run fireworks are bush league.

    • CJR

      The older (and busier) I get, the more I realize how much baseball is just a bunch of guys standing around.

      I’m watching tonite because I’m jetlagged and figure Joe Buck is good for me getting back on the right sleep cycle.

  • efgoldman

    Apparently the Rangers left their big boy gloves at home.

    • Bill Murray

      it’s the Lonnie Smith fielding school.

  • Scott Lemieux

    Jesus, most intentional walks are stupid.

    • Robert Farley

      There are no words.

      • Western Dave

        I logged on just to see this comment.

    • efgoldman

      And this one was even stupider.
      Non-intentional walk, with bases loaded, then Wilson plunks the next guy.
      The lost plate virus strikes the Rangers.
      I really don’t see them recovering, even though its only 5-2, and they have some terrific hitters.

  • strannix

    Well, the silver lining here is that many fewer Cubs fans will be clamoring for CJ Wilson this offseason.

    • efgoldman

      …many fewer Cubs fans will be clamoring for CJ Wilson this offseason.

      As a Bostonian, I gotta’ wonder how high Theo wants to go for Papelbon…

      • strannix

        I doubt very high. Does it make sense for the Cubs to throw money at a closer when they already have Marmol? I don’t really think so.

      • mark f

        Theo heard the Yankees might be interested, so he’s already offered a 10-year deal for $280m.

  • ploeg

    See, I wouldn’t think that you would get very far by plunking the batter with the bases loaded, but then again, I don’t get paid the big bucks to think about these things.

    • strannix

      I wish Furcal had charged the mound. Doesn’t he know he doesn’t need to take that?

      • Robert Farley

        Like.

      • Scott Lemieux

        Reggie Sanders would have!

        • patrick II

          I enjoyed the way all of the cardinals jumped up in joy when Furcal got hit. Not the usual reaction to a teammate getting hit by a fastball.

  • ploeg

    “We’ll get to the Sherlock Holmes 2 game summary just after I make the Bud Light belch.”

    • efgoldman

      Not to mention (promo just played) how the hell did ABC/ESPN allow Fox to outbid them for the Pac-10 and Big-12 championship games?

      • Rob

        Its the Pac-10 and Big 12 so nobody cares? Fox does all the Pac-12 games and the Big 12 is about to be the #4 conference at best.

        • Fighting Words

          Pac-12 Rules!!!

  • efgoldman

    Possible (hopeful?) bright side of Cards win: Maybe Fox will finally send McCarver to the old, retired, fine-player but lousy-broadcaster HOF along with Joe Morgan.
    McCarver was very good. Once upon a time, which ended many, many years ago. (Morgan, of course, was always awful).

    • Western Dave

      I grew up on McCarver. I’m 44. I’m pretty sure the real Tim McCarver died 4 years ago and this is his animatronic twin.

  • efgoldman

    Is it too late for LaRussa to overmanage his way out of this thing?

  • strannix

    An addendum to the FOX trivia question – game 8 of the 1912 World Series was also decided in a walkoff fashion, when Larry Garnder hit a sac fly off of Christy Mathewson that scored Steve Yerkes to win the Series in the bottom of the tenth for the Red Sox. It was Game 8 because Game 2 ended in a tie after 11 innings.

    I think that, above all, this means that Mathewson was not clutch.

    • efgoldman

      I think McCarver was there.

  • wiley

    The Rangers are playing? I used to follow them when Billy Martin was playing, new the name, number, and batting average of every player, listened to their games and the radio and scored them, and went to a few of their games. Saw a fight or two.

    That was when I was twelve. I new the names, numbers,and states on every one of the Dallas Cowboys as well, and saw all the televised Longhorn games. As an adult I just don’t have time to follow a team enough that I care whether they win or lose. I don’t even know the rules to football anymore.

    • efgoldman

      I don’t even know the rules to football anymore.

      Lots of the players and officials don’t, either.

      • wengler

        There are about 10 million of them, arbitrarily applied and forever changing.

    • strannix

      Touchdown = 6 points + PAT (1 or 2 points)
      Field goal = 3 points
      Safety = 2 points
      Punt as much as possible

      That should get you up to speed.

      • efgoldman

        Yeah, and if you brusH up against a QB’s helmet, its a penalty, but land your 350 lb bad self on top of him, it isn’t, except if it is….
        And both the offensive and defensive player have equal rights to a thrown pass in the air, except if the DB gets inside position, then its interference…

        • efgoldman

          And they moved the kickoff five yards further upfield, so they’d have more touchbacks and fewer guys injured, except nobody told the return guys, who are coming out with returns from almost the back line of the end zone…

  • efgoldman

    Whew.
    Barely got to the mute button in time.

    • wengler

      I muted as soon as I saw the ball hit in the air.

  • wiley

    …aargh…when Billy Martin was coaching

    preview, preview, preview, preview…

    • Michael Drew

      Managing, I think you mean. Maybe best to just let those who enjoy it enjoy it and observe your own disinterest privately?

      • wiley

        OOH. What’s up your ass?

  • MAJeff

    Yay for Texas losing!!!!!!!

    • Fighting Words

      I hate to say this, but I think the St. Louis Cardinals ownership and organization is pretty right-wing as well. Not to mention Tea Party LaRussa as the manager.

  • ploeg

    Bud Selig sucks. That is all.

  • Fighting Words

    Talk to me because I’m stupid (again):

    Are the players on the winning team required to change into those awful World Series t-shirts and caps? Can’t they just wear their normal uniforms?

    • efgoldman

      Are the players on the winning team required to change into those awful World Series t-shirts and caps?

      Yes.

      Can’t they just wear their normal uniforms?

      No.

      Most major sports’ marketing agreements give Byzantine a bad name.

      • ploeg

        Allen Craig thought to wear the World Series cap on top of his regular St. Louis Cardinals team cap during the post-game interview. I note, and I approve.

      • mark f

        Even worse were those “we made the playoffs!” hats they were given after game 162. At least the WS hats get sold in stores, or placed in them anyway.

  • 4jkb4ia

    This was a wonderful thread.

  • 4jkb4ia

    I missed Furcal getting hit because I was putting away the remnants of the Shabbos dinner. This was one dinner where I wish I knew any songs. I know one tune to “Yah Ribon” but it’s in Aramaic so there is no point.

    Also too, the Friday night songs sound much better when you actually worked all week.

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