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I’m so old I remember when Josh Trevino was considered some sort of intellectual. But don’t kid yourself, this 53% thing will be the hottest thing since the Victory Caucus.
Also, by the standards of Erick son of Erick I think I’m working about 7 jobs, so I’d better get some rest…
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“These problems are all very real, but if we punch some hippies things might improve.”
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Brought to you by the Republican Party [and many centrist Democratic politicians and political consultants] since 1968.
Fixed that for you.
Even the liberal Obama administration…
For all values of “Even the liberal”=”not really liberal at all” (which of course is all known values of that term).
Erick has oozed out a victimhood.
What a conservative!
53% Tumblr filled with pictures of befuddled elderly wingnuts who don’t actually pay federal income taxes in 3..2..1…
It is still a relatively small tumblr and the majority of them are young adult to middle aged white guys (a few white women thrown in). Undoubtedly while they accuse others of whining I’m sure they would be happy to explain how good folks like them can’t get a fair shake because of affirmative action kids like Obama.
Look, if the conservatives want to counter the message of the 99% with: “Suck it up, whiners!” and “Raise taxes on the poor, not the wealthy!” I say more power to them. Those are winning messages in this economic environment if ever I saw one.
If you look at the 53% tumblr it is enormously depressing how many people have internalized the message that their personal struggles are a sign of personal courage and not a failure of the social contract.
I don’t know. That’s not very many people. It’s only depressing if you take it as representative of broader trends. Which it probably is, but my evidence for that isn’t the tumblr, it’s the fact that we keep electing Republicans. To summarize: it’s not any more depressing than what we already knew.
This is true. These are clearly the two dozen people who listen to Erick Erickson which is hardly grassroots movement. I think some of my response to this was the fact I have been hearing the exact same things out of the mouths of my neighbors and people I’ve grown up with. It’s alarming but not surprising when it comes out of the mouths of people who are doing well and can’t figure out what’s wrong with people who are not. But somehow it feels worse when people can look at people who are in the exact same situation and instead of feeling empathy and a desire to change their situation they feel contempt and a desire to hurt others. Cynically I know this is the basis of the GOP (and much of conservatism). I still find it distressing and somewhat hopeless whenever I see it exemplified so clearly.
Look, a violent, and multi-city crack-down against protesters – the kind of thing that can only really happen with federal coordination…
I wonder who’s behind that. I’m sure the people here will be happy to tell me that it couldn’t possibly be Obama and the DHS…
I’m happy to tell you: (1) it doesn’t appear to be happening, and (2) handling protestors is pretty much the responsibility of local government.
Yeah. Ironically the Occupy Wall Street movement, the last I heard, was headquartered out of Zuccotti Park, which is a privately owned park. It was built by US Steel and is currently owned by a real estate corporation that has stated that they can be there indefinitely.
Then again, I may be wrong.
http://boston.com/community/blogs/less_is_more/2011/10/it_was_ugly_but_fast.html
It is gonna be the hippies. The media is going to focus on the loopy members of the crowds until the vast majority of people take it about as seriously as the Tea Party.
And since I saw a picture of a protestor shitting on a cop car (which I whole-heartedly applaud) and a video of the “democratic” manner in which John Lewis wasn’t allowed to address the crowd, I think the general hippiness of the gathering is going to hurt a bit.
And yes, even I can’t help but get smothered by the irony of a group claiming to be income tax payers launching a counter protest against the Occupy movement.
“Hey 53 Percenters, you guys are getting fucked by corporate welfare!”
“Maybe, but we are getting fucked PROUDLY!”
Then the key thing is to not dress like hippies. Everyone should come in 18th-century costume; or in camo fatigues carrying a semiautomatic. That seems to get media respect.
Or just try to avoid things that don’t reinforce the “Dopey hippie” stereotype that much of the general public has.
like protesting
Nope.
One example of a practice I would have left out: The human megaphone as democracy enabler, rather than an impromptu attempt to overcome laws against megaphones.
A lot of people are going to see the video of the ATL Occupy group doing that call-back discussion for 10 minutes in deciding to not allow Rep. Lewis to speak and come to the conclusion that those people are idiots.
I don’t think Brad’s terribly offbase here. All the rightwing radio morons here in Boston are very upset that the OWS folks are allowed to sleep in the public park without a permit while the Winter Classic at Fenway required 85 of them! This proves that Mayor Menino loves the protesters and hates the Bruins! Of course, normal people understand that the mayor would prefer the whole thing to peter out without major incidents that make the administration look heavy-handed.
A cop pepperspraying some kid looks bad. So does some kid taking a shit on a cop car.
…a video of the “democratic” manner in which John Lewis wasn’t allowed to address the crowd…
Do your homework, Brad.
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http://politics.salon.com/2011/10/09/john_lewis_i_support_ows_protesters/
I have. There is a 11 minute clip of the event all over the place.
If you watch it, you will notice that in that ridiculous call back the guy with the bullhorn and the crowd say quite clearly, “We have someone here….who would like to address the assembly.”
Look, whatever you want to call them – ‘The Powers That Be,’ or “The Malefactors of Great Wealth,” they have been remarkably successful at selling economic suicide via divide and conquor basically for, well, basically forever.
And I think this 53% label is smart.
I saw an article about 4 years ago where people/families who were making well under a total of $30,000 a year, considered themselves in the top single digits when it comes to wage earners in this country.
Yes, they convinced these ‘morans’ to think that they were in the top 10%!
That you’re only a few lucky steps away from your job at the Wawa, and the other at the car wash, from being in the top 2%, like Bill Gates and the Koch Brothers.
So, all these powers need to do to convince the ignorati in this country to go along for another session of ‘going against your own best interests’ is to convince them that they, too, are part of the same 53% club as the rich. Here’s what they can tell them:
“Look, you see the DFH protesters? They’re all either liberal students, out of work lazy bums, or Socialist and Communist agitators. YOU’RE part of US – THE 53%! Do you know how I know? And you want to know how you can prove to yourself that you’re one of US 53%ers? Take a look at your hardearned paychecks, Ladies and Gentlemen. See the withholdings? Do you see them?!? Well then, YOU are paying YOUR taxes, your fair share, and THEY ARE NOT! YOU ARE ONE OF US 53%ers! Now, go and take care of those scummy DFH Liberal Socialist Communist Atheists!”
And the ignorati crowd, convinced that they, indeed, are part of that 53%, will cry “HUZZAH!’ and start clubbing protesters like they were baby seals and they had a quota to meet to make $1 million per.
We laugh at this 53% label at our own peril.
Well, yeah, but the problem is that some of these idiots probably don’t pay federal income taxes (family of 4 making less than 30K? – I doubt it). But they think they do because they pay SS and medicare.
The 53% lie is really quite effective at it’s intended function.
“We are the 53 percent” was originally the brainchild of Erick Erickson, founder of RedState.org, who worked together with Josh Trevino . . .”
I’m having deep conceptual problems holding “brainchild” and “Erick Erickson” in my mind at the same time.
Yeah, that’s gonna go well — the guy who invented the Red State Trike Force has had another brain fart, but this time’s gonna be TOTALLY different.
Ok, instead of ‘brainchild,’ how about ‘mind-fuck?’
Much better, thank you.
As for Josh Trevino, well, I don’t think anyone can solve that one. There’s a reason why he disappears for years and then pops up like a dazed mole. He needs the break to make people forget the embarrassment of his previous endeavors.
I miss the days when he would start and shut down blogs about twice a month. I especially liked the one with the Latin name feat. “Maximos” (see Randy below on pretentious language and quadruple it.)
Maximos has not been too active lately.
Jeff Martin (Maximos) insouciantly repudiates the immoral swindle of consent, according to which he owes some measure of loyalty to the liberal political and social regime under which he has lived, offering him, as it has, the shelter of its laws. He finds that this swindle is an obstacle to his self-actualization as a reactionary, and the actualization of the self is what the liberal bargain claims to be about, is it not?
Insouciant Repudiators Unite! You have nothing to lose but your thesauruses.
I think in this context, “brainchild” = floater in the office toilet. After all, we do know where their heads are and where they get all their ideas and information.
Having been one back a looong time ago I’ve always wondered what it was that angered people so much about hippies. Jealousy?
Yep. Ever see how much car drivers hate bike riders who are enjoying themselves?
See “Nixonland” for a definitive takedown on the jealousy/conservative mindset.
Envy. All that free love and dope.
I think it started when he stopped calling himself Tacitus. What offends me most about Treviño is his William-F.-Buckley-wannabe air of condescension. he lacks the inteelectual heft to pull it off.
I didn’t really hate him until I noticed the tilde.
I didn’t really hate him until I notice the light-sabre.
I think it started when he decided he wanted to break himself off a hunk of that wingnut welfare. You can’t have even the patina of reasonableness and expect those checks to start rolling in.
The really sad thing is, he’s actually a pretty good writer. I remember some stuff he wrote about Rwanda on the original Tacitus site that were poignant and heartbreaking.
If he’d ditch his thesaurus and drop the William Buckley/George Will pastiche, he could be writing interesting things that people would like to read.
If he’d ditch his thesaurus and drop the William Buckley/George Will pastiche, he could be writing interesting things that people would like to read.If he was somebody else entirely, and was vastly less full of shit and more intelligent, he might be interesting.Fixed.
Congratulations. You will now continue to be known as an “honest conservative” by people who understand neither concept. #didnotgobacktogetthisexactlyright
The article by Khimm had the proper amount of sarcasm. You can’t be proud to pay taxes and then continually complain that your taxes are too low, especially when you have more than enough to live on. What this is getting at is more insidious–I pay my taxes so I have no greater obligations to society.
I told the people over at EW’s that I failed. But if the only solution is not fear but love of G-d, then you wouldn’t expect the thing to turn around in 24 hours, even if Yom Kippur is that 24 hours.
That was really an awesome thread even now, and Trevino was the only crank in it. #triesdesperatelytosaveface
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