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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How hard can this be? A striking blue-and-white onesie with the Wildcats logo emblazoned above the phrase Women&#039;s Basketball. Way more appealing than random pink stuff. (Unfortunately I don&#039;t think I ever got any good Scripps clothing from my sister; that might be another untapped market.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How hard can this be? A striking blue-and-white onesie with the Wildcats logo emblazoned above the phrase Women&#8217;s Basketball. Way more appealing than random pink stuff. (Unfortunately I don&#8217;t think I ever got any good Scripps clothing from my sister; that might be another untapped market.)</p>
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		<title>By: Red Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only fair to let her grow up hetero and then, &lt;em&gt;if she chooses&lt;/em&gt;, become a lesbian when she&#039;s old enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only fair to let her grow up hetero and then, <em>if she chooses</em>, become a lesbian when she&#8217;s old enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuchundra</title>
		<link>http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2010/03/gender-cues-and-babies/comment-page-1#comment-37024</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuchundra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, why not. The missus has a lot of fun picking out cute outfits for our daughter. I do take some pride in the fact that my baby is often the most stylishly dressed one.

Still, sometimes I do dress her like &lt;a href=&quot;http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Xy_Km3iCLXY/SWopTlCDE6I/AAAAAAAACC8/wA1wT8Qhy7k/s800/aurora_nyg1.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, why not. The missus has a lot of fun picking out cute outfits for our daughter. I do take some pride in the fact that my baby is often the most stylishly dressed one.</p>
<p>Still, sometimes I do dress her like <a href="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Xy_Km3iCLXY/SWopTlCDE6I/AAAAAAAACC8/wA1wT8Qhy7k/s800/aurora_nyg1.jpg" rel="nofollow">this</a></p>
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		<title>By: JSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly rabbit.  Never buy apparel from southern/religious universities!  

Coincidentally, my alma mater&#039;s colors are ALSO blue and white.  And no pink onesies either!  Although there is a pair of pink socks.  But check it out, and if you order before the Husky Women win the national championship, you&#039;ll look prescient!

http://www.huskywear.com/ADIDAS_All_Over_UCONN_Huskies_Infant_Onesie_p/adidasalloveronesie.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly rabbit.  Never buy apparel from southern/religious universities!  </p>
<p>Coincidentally, my alma mater&#8217;s colors are ALSO blue and white.  And no pink onesies either!  Although there is a pair of pink socks.  But check it out, and if you order before the Husky Women win the national championship, you&#8217;ll look prescient!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huskywear.com/ADIDAS_All_Over_UCONN_Huskies_Infant_Onesie_p/adidasalloveronesie.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.huskywear.com/ADIDAS_All_Over_UCONN_Huskies_Infant_Onesie_p/adidasalloveronesie.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luo Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luo Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the gendered colors actually help people identify babies&#039; genders. 99.9 %of our kid&#039;s infant clothes were gifts and most were blue. People would still refer to him as &quot;she&quot;. I&#039;ve heard the opposite from parents with baby girls decked out in pink frills. My theory is hair: a baby with hair is a girl; one without is a boy. 

I don&#039;t really care if somebody I don&#039;t even know uses the wrong pronoun, but I would use the correct one or his name in the course of the conversation, and people only picked up on it half the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the gendered colors actually help people identify babies&#8217; genders. 99.9 %of our kid&#8217;s infant clothes were gifts and most were blue. People would still refer to him as &#8220;she&#8221;. I&#8217;ve heard the opposite from parents with baby girls decked out in pink frills. My theory is hair: a baby with hair is a girl; one without is a boy. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really care if somebody I don&#8217;t even know uses the wrong pronoun, but I would use the correct one or his name in the course of the conversation, and people only picked up on it half the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Santa Claustrophobia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Santa Claustrophobia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s really less than gender reinforcement (not that that isn&#039;t an issue in play) but more about the school attempting to squeeze a few more dollars out of a fan base.

Professional sports teams have &#039;fashion&#039; apparel which is generally just the usual logo but in different, non-standard colours. Why wouldn&#039;t a college try and get in on some of that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s really less than gender reinforcement (not that that isn&#8217;t an issue in play) but more about the school attempting to squeeze a few more dollars out of a fan base.</p>
<p>Professional sports teams have &#8216;fashion&#8217; apparel which is generally just the usual logo but in different, non-standard colours. Why wouldn&#8217;t a college try and get in on some of that?</p>
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		<title>By: ribber</title>
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		<dc:creator>ribber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
As the father of 13-month-old twin girls, what you dress them in actually has little bearing on the inanity of comments gathered from the community.  We are often out on the town with daughter 1 in pink and daughter 2 in purple.  The most common question: &quot;A boy and a girl?&quot;  Seriously.  Yep, the kid in the purple shirt with hearts on it is obviously the boy.  We have theorized that people presume what they consider the most desirable outcome - for white people, it is usually &quot;A boy and a girl?&quot; but our town has a large Asian immigrant population, and their question at least a third of the time is &quot;Two boys?&quot;  Yes, wearing purple and pink hearts, two boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
As the father of 13-month-old twin girls, what you dress them in actually has little bearing on the inanity of comments gathered from the community.  We are often out on the town with daughter 1 in pink and daughter 2 in purple.  The most common question: &#8220;A boy and a girl?&#8221;  Seriously.  Yep, the kid in the purple shirt with hearts on it is obviously the boy.  We have theorized that people presume what they consider the most desirable outcome &#8211; for white people, it is usually &#8220;A boy and a girl?&#8221; but our town has a large Asian immigrant population, and their question at least a third of the time is &#8220;Two boys?&#8221;  Yes, wearing purple and pink hearts, two boys.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I just want to be able to use a pronoun when asking questions about or referring to your baby. That’s all.&lt;/em&gt;

Two options:

1) &quot;How cute! Are they a little girl or a little boy?&quot; (If you specifically want to know their sex, and it&#039;s not coming clear from name or other details.  Certainly this is a vital piece of info if you&#039;re about to change their diapers and want to be prepared to avoid a fountain of pee!)

2) &quot;How cute! How old are they/what&#039;s their name/etc.?&quot; (If sexing the infant is not an immediate priority).

(Singular they/their/etc. has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/austheir.html#X1x&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a long history in English&lt;/a&gt; - Shakespeare, Bible translations, Jane Austen, Dickens, etc, although it was labeled as incorrect in the early 19thC by writers who apparently mistook English for Latin.)

A very interesting post about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rachelstavern.com/uncategorized/gender-and-baby-boys-clothes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gender and Baby Boys&#039; Clothes&lt;/a&gt; from Rachel&#039;s Tavern:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;. . . I’ve also see baby boy clothes with policemen, construction worker, mechanic, pilot, and soldier themes. Activity themes involve clothes the promote going on safaris, hunting, fishing, eating, playing sports, and one outfit my little guys have promotes making robots ...  What strikes me about baby boys clothes is how much they promote activity and paid labor force work. Even as infants, we start to socialize baby boys into occupations. You rarely find occupation themed clothes for girls. Little girls clothes often have flowers, frills, and some animals (i.e. butterflies), but they don’t have occupational themes. They also rarely have activity themes outside of shopping or cheerleading. . . &lt;/i&gt;&quot;

For folks who feel all this is just overthinking an obvious duck, why is  &quot;what sex are they&quot; such a major and thorny question that people will both endlessly ask &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; parents will be, apparently, too tired to answer - compared to, say, how old are they, which can also be pretty tough to tell, and seemingly a lot more immediately relevant, or their name, which is basically unguessable?

Also: We were just at Babies R Us today getting new clothes for our little one - 2 months old, and finally as big as an average newborn, yay!  There was, as usual, an almost literal handful of nongendered baby clothes, with everything else clearly marked as little boy or little girl.  I mean, think how hard designers have to be working to not turn out a few more gender neutral clothes, how many colors and subjects and phrases and combinations they  have to painstakingly avoid!  Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I just want to be able to use a pronoun when asking questions about or referring to your baby. That’s all.</em></p>
<p>Two options:</p>
<p>1) &#8220;How cute! Are they a little girl or a little boy?&#8221; (If you specifically want to know their sex, and it&#8217;s not coming clear from name or other details.  Certainly this is a vital piece of info if you&#8217;re about to change their diapers and want to be prepared to avoid a fountain of pee!)</p>
<p>2) &#8220;How cute! How old are they/what&#8217;s their name/etc.?&#8221; (If sexing the infant is not an immediate priority).</p>
<p>(Singular they/their/etc. has <a href="http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/austheir.html#X1x" rel="nofollow">a long history in English</a> &#8211; Shakespeare, Bible translations, Jane Austen, Dickens, etc, although it was labeled as incorrect in the early 19thC by writers who apparently mistook English for Latin.)</p>
<p>A very interesting post about <a href="http://www.rachelstavern.com/uncategorized/gender-and-baby-boys-clothes.html" rel="nofollow">Gender and Baby Boys&#8217; Clothes</a> from Rachel&#8217;s Tavern:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>. . . I’ve also see baby boy clothes with policemen, construction worker, mechanic, pilot, and soldier themes. Activity themes involve clothes the promote going on safaris, hunting, fishing, eating, playing sports, and one outfit my little guys have promotes making robots &#8230;  What strikes me about baby boys clothes is how much they promote activity and paid labor force work. Even as infants, we start to socialize baby boys into occupations. You rarely find occupation themed clothes for girls. Little girls clothes often have flowers, frills, and some animals (i.e. butterflies), but they don’t have occupational themes. They also rarely have activity themes outside of shopping or cheerleading. . . </i>&#8221;</p>
<p>For folks who feel all this is just overthinking an obvious duck, why is  &#8220;what sex are they&#8221; such a major and thorny question that people will both endlessly ask <i>and</i> parents will be, apparently, too tired to answer &#8211; compared to, say, how old are they, which can also be pretty tough to tell, and seemingly a lot more immediately relevant, or their name, which is basically unguessable?</p>
<p>Also: We were just at Babies R Us today getting new clothes for our little one &#8211; 2 months old, and finally as big as an average newborn, yay!  There was, as usual, an almost literal handful of nongendered baby clothes, with everything else clearly marked as little boy or little girl.  I mean, think how hard designers have to be working to not turn out a few more gender neutral clothes, how many colors and subjects and phrases and combinations they  have to painstakingly avoid!  Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Downpuppy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Downpuppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aclu.org/blog/religion-belief/texas-school-district-refuses-acknowledge-first-amendment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trying again on the link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.aclu.org/blog/religion-belief/texas-school-district-refuses-acknowledge-first-amendment" rel="nofollow">Trying again on the link</a></p>
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