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Equal Opportunity Water-boarding

[ 8 ] March 12, 2010 | Charli Carpenter

Karl Rove defends mock drowning once again in his new memoir. After all, we do it to our own troops during training to help them learn to withstand torture. Not that it is.

A more forgiving assessment from Peter Feaver. Helpful roundup of responses from The Atlantic Wire.

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  1. Hanspeter says:

    It’s not mock drowning. It is drowning. The interrogator just normally stops the waterboarding before it kills the detainee, but death is not a condition necessary to define drowning.

  2. joshuabragg says:

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    Both my wife and I are in our 40′s, don’t consider ourselves “prudes” or overly conservative, and believe we have a strong sense of what is appropriate for our two teenage children.

    Neither one of us could believe what was on display and available to any age shopper merely feet from the door at this one. I was sickened thinking our children, as well as every child who visits Town Center, have access to the store and the items on display.

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    If you must, visit the store yourself and observe the items for sale.Please consider taking measures to help eliminate the adult items, products which promote drug usage, and the other offensive merchandise from this business.

    They may be offering these items for sale and staying within the lette of the law, but responsible citizens need to take a stand, change the laws, and reduce or completely eliminate the availability of these items at public and family places such as Town Center.

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  3. The Wrath of Oliver Khan says:

    Well, that was quick with the comment spamming and whatnot.

  4. The Wrath of Oliver Khan says:

    From Dr. Feaver’s article:

    There were a few iconoclasts who guessed more accurately the truth about the Iraqi WMD program in 2002, but they were outliers — not unlike the outliers today who claim that Iran has no nuclear weapons ambitions whatsoever. Then, as now, it would seem quite a gamble to base an entire security strategy on an iconoclastic view that, if wrong, would be disastrously wrong.

    Um, yeah, I think it pretty much did go disastrously wrong, especially for all the now-dead Iraqis who happened to be on the short end of this particular security strategy stick.

    Fuck you, Peter Feaver.

  5. Rathskeller says:

    wow, insta-spam.

  6. David Scott says:

    Yeah! Because it shouldn’t be okay to abduct people, illegally torture them for years without due process, and not have to tell anybody about what we did to them. What kind of Nazis could be in favor of that! Thank all that is righteous for the ACLU! There is no more freedom in this country, but they keep trying anyway. Take a look at this: http://pltcldscsn.blogspot.com/2009/04/is-waterboarding-torture.html

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