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Dianne Fienstein (Senator Desperately In Need Of A Primary Challenge-CA) supports immunizing companies who acted illegally by violating the privacy of their customers. It would be holding companies “hostage” to punish them for illegal activity, since state actors were also involved! Boo-hoo-hoo-hoo! For reasons I can’t understand, the fact that litigation would be “costly” — and hence deter future illegal behavior and violations of customer privacy — is supposed to be a bug, not a feature. The classic coservertarian bait-and-switch.

With Lieberman out, it’s becoming overwhelmingly clear that with the appropriate regional adjustments Fienstein is the worst Democrat in the Senate. Can we at least get her booted off the Judiciary Committee?

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  • Mike

    Oh Lord, stuck with DiFi again.

  • Mike

    Oh Lord, stuck with DiFi again.

  • aimai

    (((golf claps for mike)))
    yes, please, can we get rid of her.
    aimai

  • aimai

    (((golf claps for mike)))
    yes, please, can we get rid of her.
    aimai

  • The beauty part is that DiFi introduced a resolution to censure Clinton after he was acquitted, including this passage:

    Whereas William Jefferson Clinton remains subject to criminal actions in a court of law like any other citizen;

    When Clinton gets a blowjob, Diane gets very concerned about the rule of law. But when billion dollar telcos break the law, destroy the rights of millions of Americans, and then demand retroactive immunity? Not so much.

  • The beauty part is that DiFi introduced a resolution to censure Clinton after he was acquitted, including this passage:

    Whereas William Jefferson Clinton remains subject to criminal actions in a court of law like any other citizen;

    When Clinton gets a blowjob, Diane gets very concerned about the rule of law. But when billion dollar telcos break the law, destroy the rights of millions of Americans, and then demand retroactive immunity? Not so much.

  • Matt Weiner

    it’s becoming overwhelmingly clear that with the appropriate regional adjustments Fienstein is the worst Democrat in the Senate
    I think Rockefeller deserves some consideration.

  • Matt Weiner

    it’s becoming overwhelmingly clear that with the appropriate regional adjustments Fienstein is the worst Democrat in the Senate
    I think Rockefeller deserves some consideration.

  • Rockefeller is from West Virginia, so I’m not sure that he really merits consideration. How progressive can we really expect a senator from West Virginia to be?

  • Rockefeller is from West Virginia, so I’m not sure that he really merits consideration. How progressive can we really expect a senator from West Virginia to be?

  • DiFi’s always been a Republican in Dem’s clothing – but supporting Mukasey as AG and immunity for the telecoms goes far beyond the line into “push her out of office” territory.

  • DiFi’s always been a Republican in Dem’s clothing – but supporting Mukasey as AG and immunity for the telecoms goes far beyond the line into “push her out of office” territory.

  • MattT

    As someone who voted for her (massively underfunded) primary challenger last time, forget it. For some reason I have never been able to fathom, she is basically the most popular politician in California. I’d love for people to start seeing through her the way they see through Lieberman, but it’s probably going to take an independently wealthy candidate who doesn’t mind pissing off the entire state Democratic party.

  • MattT

    As someone who voted for her (massively underfunded) primary challenger last time, forget it. For some reason I have never been able to fathom, she is basically the most popular politician in California. I’d love for people to start seeing through her the way they see through Lieberman, but it’s probably going to take an independently wealthy candidate who doesn’t mind pissing off the entire state Democratic party.

  • Matt Weiner

    Well, Byrd is pretty much a master of obstructing the GOP, and Rockefeller rolls over every chance he gets, so I think West Virginia could be doing better. OTOH, maybe this just means that good WV senators have to come into office as white supremacists and then reform themselves.
    …and Rockefeller’s professor seems to have been OK. Though there could be stuff that didn’t make it into Wikipedia.

  • Matt Weiner

    Well, Byrd is pretty much a master of obstructing the GOP, and Rockefeller rolls over every chance he gets, so I think West Virginia could be doing better. OTOH, maybe this just means that good WV senators have to come into office as white supremacists and then reform themselves.
    …and Rockefeller’s professor seems to have been OK. Though there could be stuff that didn’t make it into Wikipedia.

  • Incontinentia Buttocks

    My understanding is that DiFi is planning to retire when her term expires in 2013, so there’s no use worrying about a primary challenge.
    However, the “few bad apples” theory of the Democratic Party is beginning to wear very thin.

  • Incontinentia Buttocks

    My understanding is that DiFi is planning to retire when her term expires in 2013, so there’s no use worrying about a primary challenge.
    However, the “few bad apples” theory of the Democratic Party is beginning to wear very thin.

  • DiFi gets cover because she was mayor of San Francisco. Get ready for the new ex-mayor of SF, Gavin Newsom to be onto the scene in 4 years or so.
    She has been on right rightmost edge of the D’s, starting with all the Flag Burning amendments, up to the present.

  • DiFi gets cover because she was mayor of San Francisco. Get ready for the new ex-mayor of SF, Gavin Newsom to be onto the scene in 4 years or so.
    She has been on right rightmost edge of the D’s, starting with all the Flag Burning amendments, up to the present.

  • I wonder if DiFi’s ascension to the mayor’s office, in the aftermath of crazy conservative councillor Dan White killing Mayor Moscone and Councillor Harvey Milk in City Hall established her as some sort of “healing figure” for San Francisco, which helped her get a pass on actual issues important to liberals.

  • I wonder if DiFi’s ascension to the mayor’s office, in the aftermath of crazy conservative councillor Dan White killing Mayor Moscone and Councillor Harvey Milk in City Hall established her as some sort of “healing figure” for San Francisco, which helped her get a pass on actual issues important to liberals.

  • aimai

    But isn’t there some way to start a kind of “shadow senator” thing? I’m thinking this: a) she’s pretty old and could easily find herself forced to retire for health reasons if the job gets too onerous and b) the problem is that the voters just don’t have any idea, on a daily basis, just what she is doing wrong. Can she be recalled or unseated? If not, can she be undermined and can a shadow senator with enough publicity show her up?
    I guess I’m thinking of Altmouse, really. But why not? or Difinot? If I lived in california I’d start a blog giving the speeches and the votes difi should have made.
    aimai

  • aimai

    But isn’t there some way to start a kind of “shadow senator” thing? I’m thinking this: a) she’s pretty old and could easily find herself forced to retire for health reasons if the job gets too onerous and b) the problem is that the voters just don’t have any idea, on a daily basis, just what she is doing wrong. Can she be recalled or unseated? If not, can she be undermined and can a shadow senator with enough publicity show her up?
    I guess I’m thinking of Altmouse, really. But why not? or Difinot? If I lived in california I’d start a blog giving the speeches and the votes difi should have made.
    aimai

  • Ed Marshall

    As someone who voted for her (massively underfunded) primary challenger last time, forget it.
    I think the key there is massively underfunded. She could get Liebermaned with enough outside agitation.
    What happens if “independent” Fienstein runs, I’m not sure about though.

  • Ed Marshall

    As someone who voted for her (massively underfunded) primary challenger last time, forget it.
    I think the key there is massively underfunded. She could get Liebermaned with enough outside agitation.
    What happens if “independent” Fienstein runs, I’m not sure about though.

  • I think the key there is massively underfunded. She could get Liebermaned with enough outside agitation.
    She’s a fundraising machine in the most expensive state in the country for state-wide races. The best shot to be done with her before she willingly retires was if she had stepped in to steamroll her opposition and become governor of California during the Gray Davis fiasco, and she wasn’t interested. Someone should have devoted more effort to crowbarring her out.

  • I think the key there is massively underfunded. She could get Liebermaned with enough outside agitation.
    She’s a fundraising machine in the most expensive state in the country for state-wide races. The best shot to be done with her before she willingly retires was if she had stepped in to steamroll her opposition and become governor of California during the Gray Davis fiasco, and she wasn’t interested. Someone should have devoted more effort to crowbarring her out.

  • Uncle Kvetch

    I wonder if DiFi’s ascension to the mayor’s office, in the aftermath of crazy conservative councillor Dan White killing Mayor Moscone and Councillor Harvey Milk in City Hall established her as some sort of “healing figure” for San Francisco, which helped her get a pass on actual issues important to liberals.
    Indeed. I can speak only for myself, Redbeard, but as an East-Coaster, my only knowledge of DiFi for many years was gleaned from The Times of Harvey Milk, in which, as you say, she is presented as a fundamentally decent person who helped the city to “heal” in the aftermath of the shootings. When she got into the Senate, and I started following national politics more closely, my frustration with her chronic DiNO-ism was tempered by this–“Whatever else you may say about her, at least….”
    But enough already. Whatever good karma she may have amassed 30 years ago has been more than spent. She’s no better than Lieberman.

  • Uncle Kvetch

    I wonder if DiFi’s ascension to the mayor’s office, in the aftermath of crazy conservative councillor Dan White killing Mayor Moscone and Councillor Harvey Milk in City Hall established her as some sort of “healing figure” for San Francisco, which helped her get a pass on actual issues important to liberals.
    Indeed. I can speak only for myself, Redbeard, but as an East-Coaster, my only knowledge of DiFi for many years was gleaned from The Times of Harvey Milk, in which, as you say, she is presented as a fundamentally decent person who helped the city to “heal” in the aftermath of the shootings. When she got into the Senate, and I started following national politics more closely, my frustration with her chronic DiNO-ism was tempered by this–“Whatever else you may say about her, at least….”
    But enough already. Whatever good karma she may have amassed 30 years ago has been more than spent. She’s no better than Lieberman.

  • How can I unset my homepage url? I set it once as a joke, and can’t get rid of it.

  • How can I unset my homepage url? I set it once as a joke, and can’t get rid of it.

  • wtf

    My guess Scott is that you don’t know a lot of Jews, or much German either, or you’re just in love with the “ie” in your last name….

  • wtf

    My guess Scott is that you don’t know a lot of Jews, or much German either, or you’re just in love with the “ie” in your last name….

  • wtf

    Toss your cookies, MobiusKlein….

  • wtf

    Toss your cookies, MobiusKlein….

  • Matt Weiner

    you don’t know a lot of Jews
    He’s an academic who lives in New York, I bet that’s not it. My diagnosis is a mild case of Yglesias Syndrome.
    Either that, or he’s just been completely confused by me.

  • Matt Weiner

    you don’t know a lot of Jews
    He’s an academic who lives in New York, I bet that’s not it. My diagnosis is a mild case of Yglesias Syndrome.
    Either that, or he’s just been completely confused by me.

  • I think it confuses Americans that the pronunciation is the long form of the *2d* letter in the combo. LEEberman, FINEstein. We don’t want to have to waste time reading the entire goddamn syllable! We’re busy people!

  • I think it confuses Americans that the pronunciation is the long form of the *2d* letter in the combo. LEEberman, FINEstein. We don’t want to have to waste time reading the entire goddamn syllable! We’re busy people!

  • ThresherK

    She’s no better than Lieberman.
    Uncle Kvetch,
    You mean DiFi is also every Beltway Inbred Cable Channel’s favorite tut-tutter, ready to provide one-way comity soundbites and echo-ready High Broderism?
    Nah. Blowmentum’s mad skillz and continual rolodexing by Pumpkinhead and Tweety out-do DiFi. Not to say she can’t catch up.
    (Disclaimer: Lifelong Nutmegger. I was sick of Lieberman before any of you.)

  • ThresherK

    She’s no better than Lieberman.
    Uncle Kvetch,
    You mean DiFi is also every Beltway Inbred Cable Channel’s favorite tut-tutter, ready to provide one-way comity soundbites and echo-ready High Broderism?
    Nah. Blowmentum’s mad skillz and continual rolodexing by Pumpkinhead and Tweety out-do DiFi. Not to say she can’t catch up.
    (Disclaimer: Lifelong Nutmegger. I was sick of Lieberman before any of you.)

  • Darkrose

    I would think that since CA has set a recall precedent, we should be able to vote for a recall for DiFi.

  • Darkrose

    I would think that since CA has set a recall precedent, we should be able to vote for a recall for DiFi.

  • DocAmazing

    Uncle Kvetch–
    had you been in SF during the Feinstein years, you’d have been disabused of that “fundamentally decent” notion in a hurry; she turned the SFPD into an occupying army and ran roughshod over the Board of Supervisors.
    She’s been a country-club creep from way, way back.

  • DocAmazing

    Uncle Kvetch–
    had you been in SF during the Feinstein years, you’d have been disabused of that “fundamentally decent” notion in a hurry; she turned the SFPD into an occupying army and ran roughshod over the Board of Supervisors.
    She’s been a country-club creep from way, way back.

  • Uncle Kvetch

    No doubt, DocA. Maybe this is a crass comparison, but it sounds like there’s something to the notion that the Moscone assassination is to DiFi as 9/11 is to GWB.

  • Uncle Kvetch

    No doubt, DocA. Maybe this is a crass comparison, but it sounds like there’s something to the notion that the Moscone assassination is to DiFi as 9/11 is to GWB.

  • Uncle Kvetch

    …to GWB and to Rudy Giuliani, I should have said.

  • Uncle Kvetch

    …to GWB and to Rudy Giuliani, I should have said.

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